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Note from list owner: It appears that I allowed this message to languish in the moderation queue for more than six weeks. I apologize for the delay. Lancelot...
Elisabeth Barker
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Mar 18, 2002
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I have misplaced both my book and my notes; I should find them tonight. But I wanted to go ahead and make a general comment from what I remember of my notes. ...
Daniels, Charles
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I am pleased to announce the creation of two new slow reading lists -- for Plato's Lysis (plato-lysis@yahoogroups.com) and Plato's Philebus ...
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I will be away from internet access from August 10 until August 17 (I will be vacationing in a cottage on the shore of the Black Sea in Sarpi -- about 130 km....
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This invitation pertains to two different groups. One is the plato-phaedo list, the other is a list called philosophy2. Both are groups that existed in the...
Lancelot R. Fletcher
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Sep 28, 2003
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so then, Understanding cannot find a concept for it. The process of trying to find a concept continues. There must be a purpose, it feels like there is a...
R Toe
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... It looks to me that you have a good question but it is a little unclear because there are different kinds of judgments of taste through which we experience...
David
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Hey Gang, In general, it seems like David is on the right track to answer the questions. Although I disagree that Kant gets even more trapped. I wanted to...
Sarah Cunningham
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Dec 19, 2003
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Sarah, I could disagree with little here until your first comment on the role of purposiveness which you claim opens a threshold for critical thinking. This...
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Hi, I'm not clear reading Kant if, in the story of the man who hears a nightingale, only later to find out that it's a hoax and looses any feeling toward the...
Richard Wilkerson
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Aug 24, 2005
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In a message dated 8/23/2005 5:53:21 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, rcwilk@... writes: I'm not clear reading Kant if, in the story of the man who hears...
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Aug 24, 2005
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... a ... Its not an experience of beauty any longer because according to Kant, in discovering the falsehood, we have attached a concept to the given sensible...
olughod2003
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So when you say that beauty is a universal, this just means that there exists a possibile subjective state of confusion we can all experience before we...
Richard Wilkerson
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In a message dated 1/14/2006 12:58:10 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, olughod2003@... writes: beauty is a universal, although merely subjective judgment. I...
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... is a universal, although merely subjective judgment. This was the twist I didn't really understand in K3. What I am hearing you now say is that while the...
Richard Wilkerson
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Jan 15, 2006
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Note that we employ the traditional judgmental form in our claims to beauty: X is beautiful. To be sure such claims are attended by contrary presuppositions:...
Omar Lughod
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Jan 18, 2006
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See my responses to the particulars below: ... is a universal, although merely subjective judgment. This was the twist I didn't really understand in K3. What...
Omar Lughod
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The difference remains qualitatively different (between the aesthetic and the preconceptual feel toward a concept). Thus just as one can say, I thought i knew...
Omar Lughod
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So this means there really is no *experience* of beauty if the beautiful object always suffers from the condition of the possibility of being falsified. There...
Richard Wilkerson
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The "experience" of beauty remains merely subjective, a function of what one's mind does to certain material. By revealing an object of knowledge one removes...
Omar Lughod
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First, you do point to something faulty in my reasoning; if i was mistaken in my aesthetic judging then it suggests that aesthetic judging, on its own terms,...
Omar Lughod
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On Beauty….. Imagine going to a country, accompanied by a highly experienced linguist, and discovering that in that indigenous language there is no word...
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Kant's analysis is formal, and provides the conditions for understanding that linguist as having generated an aesthetic judgment at all. What Kant wants to...
Omar Lughod
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to complete the argument. the universality of my claim to the beautiful lies in my expectation that any human ought to respond, vis a vis their own faculties,...
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In a message dated 1/20/2006 9:45:23 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, olughod2003@... writes: And because you share the same faculties as I do, as a human...
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Are you not allowing for faculties in common. When one person makes an aesthetic judgment, X is beautiful, do you not understand what they are getting at. What...
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Do you not think that such a presumption, the presumption of a communal sense ("sensus communis" in Kant's terms) is not the precondition for communication...
Omar Lughod
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Jan 21, 2006
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Do you not think that such a presumption, the presumption of a communal sense ("sensus communis" in Kant's terms) is not the precondition for communication...
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Jan 21, 2006
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Kant does several things with his aesthetic that only appear paradoxical. 1) he establishes its independence of the other (theoretical and moral) domains, and...
Omar Lughod
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Jan 21, 2006
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An invitation is open to the members of this group for a study and sustained discussion on Kant's "Critique of Judgment". I welcome all the talent and insight...
Albert DeLucien
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