thank you for this.  it is a very beautiful statement of karma -- almost
poetic --
something to meditate on.  so beautiful.  thank you.

mike

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 5:08 AM, Jamie S <jamie-speirs@...> wrote:

>
>
> Saw this on Rigpa today;
>
> Karma means that whatever we do, with our bodies, speech, or minds, will
> have a corresponding result. Each action, even the smallest, is pregnant
> with its consequences. It is said by the masters that even a little poison
> can cause death, and even a tiny seed can become a huge tree. And as Buddha
> said: "Do not overlook negative actions merely because they are small;
> however small a spark may be, it can burn down a haystack as big as a
> mountain."
>
> Similarly he said: "Do not overlook tiny good actions, thinking they are of
> no benefit even tiny drops of water in the end will fill a huge vessel."
>
> Karma does not decay like external things, or ever become inoperative. It
> cannot be destroyed "by time, fire, or water." Its power will never
> disappear,
>
>
>


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Saw this on Rigpa today;

Karma means that whatever we do, with our bodies, speech, or minds, will have a
corresponding result. Each action, even the smallest, is pregnant with its
consequences. It is said by the masters that even a little poison can cause
death, and even a tiny seed can become a huge tree. And as Buddha said: "Do not
overlook negative actions merely because they are small; however small a spark
may be, it can burn down a haystack as big as a mountain."

Similarly he said: "Do not overlook tiny good actions, thinking they are of no
benefit even tiny drops of water in the end will fill a huge vessel."

Karma does not decay like external things, or ever become inoperative. It cannot
be destroyed "by time, fire, or water." Its power will never disappear,

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Thanks to all who replied, especially those offline, to this query.
 
The "class" is also reading the Power's book on Tibetan Buddhism.
But they have a psycho-therapy mind-bent and Chogyam Trungpa
seemed the most natural choice. After Trungpa, we will have them read
some texts in seven point mind training.
 
Anyway, again, thanks to the query -- especially those you replied
offline. I will make sure to answer you each.
 
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I attended the consecration of the stupas.  Khenpo Karthar Rinpoche threw rice
and some kind of petals with a seed inside of them.  Does anyone know what kind
of Flower, Tree this is?

It it still confusing?  It's already converted into EST.. would more
timezone help?

I wanted to add to what Susan said that in addition to focusing on cultivating
the good, it's good to take a moment at the end of the day to formally dedicate
the merit of that day. If you're really having a black day, it can help you to
say the dedication prayer outloud, so you remember you have buddhanature and you
*can* change.

km

Hi -
And welcome.  As for karma and how it works, I look at it a bit
differently. That is, we're not taught about the law of karma to scare
the s... out of us, but to give us tools to make our lives better.  Just
like it is a kindness to teach a child that a hot stove will burn him or
her, it is a kindness to teach us what actions will cause us suffering
and what ones will bring happiness and benefit.  Just as most parents
don't feel happy when an adventurous child puts their finger on the
stove, even though they were told of the danger - rather they are a bit
sad that their child was hurt, and they will emphasize the danger even
more, so the Buddhas and bodhisatvas are not happy when we take actions
that lead to suffering.  They want only happiness for us, so there is no
vengefulness, or eye-for-an-eye attitude.

The law of karma is neutral like natural laws - there is no judgment in
fire burning - it's just how it is.  So the issue is not fearing that
karma is going to get you sooner or later for the bad things you've
done, but to use your knowledge to change your behavior - even if it
takes time to do that.  Sounds like you are working on that.

The other important thing is just as doing harmful things will have
harmful results, so doing helpful things brings helpful results.  This
means that it is really good to focus on the opposite of harmful
actions.  For example, the opposite of stealing is giving - charity,
help, even just the warmth of a smile.  Etc.  So instead of worrying
about the harmful things you've done, it can be beneficial to focus more
on doing good things.  Of course one very good thing is simply working
with whatever means you have to overcome the issues that give you trouble.

Hope this is some use.

Susan



bellabelusa wrote:
>
>
> Just wondering if you could explain to me how Karma works...
> I have OCD and it makes Karma a terrifying thing. I feel like the minute
> I do something or say something that is negative, it will come back to me...
>
> I already posted it here, but was hoping for more opinions...I drove a
> bit Under Influence of alcohol, twice, but made home safe. Now i feel
> like the Karma will get me back for endangering others.
>
> Can you please explain?
> Thank you!!!
>
>

Jimpa la,
 
Tashi delek shu for your 3 yrs retreat ..
 
Sonam

--- On Tue, 11/17/09, Linda Ariamtiksna <margietop@...> wrote:


From: Linda Ariamtiksna <margietop@...>
Subject: Re: [kagyu] Three year retreat
To: kagyu@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 12:06 AM


 



Oh three years retreat is great, I rejoice for you Jimpa

____________ _________ _________ __
From: jimpa <jimpathemonk@ yahoo.com>
To: kagyu@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sat, November 14, 2009 11:44:51 PM
Subject: [kagyu] Three year retreat

Hello Everyone,
I will be entering a two month preliminary retreat tomorrow and will come out of
retreate on 1/15/2010 and then enter the three year three month retreat at the
Garchen Buddhist Institute, in Chino Valley, Arizona on 02/02/2010.
I will be discontinuing the post and if anyone wishes to contact me they can do
so at my regular e-mail. My retreat attendant will answer any question or give
you a mailing adress.
Thank you everyone for the lively debates and the wonderful knowledge you have
given me.

Much love and many blessings,
Jimpa

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Oh three years retreat is great, I rejoice for you Jimpa




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From: jimpa <jimpathemonk@...>
To: kagyu@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, November 14, 2009 11:44:51 PM
Subject: [kagyu] Three year retreat


Hello Everyone,
I will be entering a two month preliminary retreat tomorrow and will come out of
retreate on 1/15/2010 and then enter the three year three month retreat at the
Garchen Buddhist Institute, in Chino Valley, Arizona on 02/02/2010.
I will be discontinuing the post and if anyone wishes to contact me they can do
so at my regular e-mail. My retreat attendant will answer any question or give
you a mailing adress.
Thank you everyone for the lively debates and the wonderful knowledge you have
given me.

Much love and many blessings,
Jimpa







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Or how about driving under the influence OF the future! -TG

--- In kagyu@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <mgessex@...> wrote:
>
> Have you thought of ways to avoid driving under the influence in the future?
>
> It seems that is the practical application of the idea of Karma. if you think
your past actions had the potential to lead to bad consequences, come up with
steps to avoid the same actions in the future.
>
>
> --- In kagyu@yahoogroups.com, "bellabelusa" <bellabelusa@> wrote:
> >
> > Just wondering if you could explain to me how Karma works...
> > I have OCD and it makes Karma a terrifying thing. I feel like the minute I
do something or say something that is negative, it will come back to me...
> >
> > I already posted it here, but was hoping for more opinions...I drove a bit
Under Influence of alcohol, twice, but made home safe. Now i feel like the Karma
will get me back for endangering others.
> >
> > Can you please explain?
> > Thank you!!!
> >
>

Have you thought of ways to avoid driving under the influence in the future?

It seems that is the practical application of the idea of Karma. if you think
your past actions had the potential to lead to bad consequences, come up with
steps to avoid the same actions in the future.


--- In kagyu@yahoogroups.com, "bellabelusa" <bellabelusa@...> wrote:
>
> Just wondering if you could explain to me how Karma works...
> I have OCD and it makes Karma a terrifying thing. I feel like the minute I do
something or say something that is negative, it will come back to me...
>
> I already posted it here, but was hoping for more opinions...I drove a bit
Under Influence of alcohol, twice, but made home safe. Now i feel like the Karma
will get me back for endangering others.
>
> Can you please explain?
> Thank you!!!
>

"What do you understand karma as? People sometimes think "Karma means
that if I do something good, something good will happen to me and if I
do something bad something bad will happen to me" but this is a
misunderstanding of karma. It is a misunderstanding of
cause-and-effect."  TS

Good question:from my first thoughts, karma roots from volitional formations
which come to dominate the mind.  If my mind is dominated with suspicion,
attachment, desire, aversion, and fear, I will act in negative and self-serving
ways.  On the other hand, if my mind is filled by thoughts of wisdom,
compassion, and loving friendliness, my actions will be positive and more
selfless.  However, since my mind is still dominated with a conception of
duality, a continuity of consciousness will resume.

Anyone wish comment on the differences between karma of cause and karma of
result.

Brian L.

To: kagyu@yahoogroups.com
From: mistahvolkah@...
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:56:01 +0000
Subject: [kagyu] Re: Karma
































-TG



--- In kagyu@yahoogroups.com, "bellabelusa" <bellabelusa@...> wrote:

>

> Just wondering if you could explain to me how Karma works...

> I have OCD and it makes Karma a terrifying thing. I feel like the minute I do
something or say something that is negative, it will come back to me...

>

> I already posted it here, but was hoping for more opinions...I drove a bit
Under Influence of alcohol, twice, but made home safe. Now i feel like the Karma
will get me back for endangering others.

>

> Can you please explain?

> Thank you!!!

>


















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In kagyu@yahoogroups.com  "bellabelusa" wrote:

   Just wondering if you could explain to me how Karma works...

B...

Karma works, or is caused by the mind's attachment to the appearances of things
and because of our ignorance about the real nature of things. We only see part
of what is going on in the world, and we believe that what we perceive is all
that there is, and we get attached to that. This isn't just true for people with
OCD, it is true for everybody.

For example, you think that you have produced bad karma because of DUI and that
this is going to haunt you. But you may not know the whole story. You only know
what you perceived.

Perhaps if you had not stayed around for that last drink and had driven home a
few minutes sooner, there might have been another driver, even more intoxicated,
who would not have seen you in time, would have run into you and killed you
both. Maybe, maybe not. You don't know. But because you drove home a few minutes
later, maybe that decision to have another drink saved a life. So, you may have
also generated a lot of good karma somehow and not even know it.

Sometimes even negative actions can have a positive effect.

There are lots of circumstances that we are not aware of that are also
intertwined with our lives, with the things we do know about.

Also, things are always changing. Our view of good or bad changes depending on
the circumstances. Suppose you need to go to the airport to catch a plane but on
the way your car breaks down and you miss your flight. So, you think "oh that's
my bad karma" but then the plane crashes. So then instead, you think "oh it was
my good karma" but when you get home you see hat the plane crashed into your
house. So now it's  "my bad karma" again. But luckily nobody in your house was
home so nobody got killed, so you think, " that's my good karma" again.  Back
and forth. You cannot always tell if something is caused by positive or negative
actions.

My point is that the details of a situation, the appearance of what is going on
may not always count for much. You can't say that good or bad fortune coming
your way because of this or that action (unless there is an immediate, obvious
connection such as driving drunk and causing an accident).

Some unknown disaster is not going to hit you as a direct result of DUI. It is,
however, your good karma that you are alive at this moment and have a connection
with the dharma.

-TG

--- In kagyu@yahoogroups.com, "bellabelusa" <bellabelusa@...> wrote:
>
> Just wondering if you could explain to me how Karma works...
> I have OCD and it makes Karma a terrifying thing. I feel like the minute I do
something or say something that is negative, it will come back to me...
>
> I already posted it here, but was hoping for more opinions...I drove a bit
Under Influence of alcohol, twice, but made home safe. Now i feel like the Karma
will get me back for endangering others.
>
> Can you please explain?
> Thank you!!!
>

Hi Bellabelusa,
   I am not as smart and wise as the other posters here but I will try to
explain it to you the way I understand it.  First of all, karma will not get
you.  Karma is energy, karma is action.  Think of it like this:  when you
want to switch on the lights what do you do?  You turn the light switch to
on.  The lights comes on.  When your mind is at a good state and is filled
with kindness, your physical actions and words will also be aligned with
kindness.  Because your actions are kindness, everything else that occurs
around you will also be viewed as such.  When you do the opposite such as
hatred, the same energy follows.  Does that make sense?  Karma is no one and
no entity.  To me it's your state of mind that makes your surroundings and
environment.  Do not worry about karma.  Live accordingly to a life of
kindness and love.  Know that all is ever loving.  Even bad situations are
loving.  We simply do not have the wisdom to understand
  yet.
 
As for your driving under the influence example........same thing.  You are
turning on a light switch to turn on.  You drive under the influence what do
you think will happen?  The fact that you did this twice and know it's
wrong............will there be a third?


 
Love & Peace Always,
Angel - Mommy to Nic, Nat, Nate

--- On Sat, 11/14/09, bellabelusa <bellabelusa@...> wrote:


From: bellabelusa <bellabelusa@...>
Subject: [kagyu] Karma
To: kagyu@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 9:08 PM


 



Just wondering if you could explain to me how Karma works...
I have OCD and it makes Karma a terrifying thing. I feel like the minute I do
something or say something that is negative, it will come back to me...

I already posted it here, but was hoping for more opinions...I drove a bit Under
Influence of alcohol, twice, but made home safe. Now i feel like the Karma will
get me back for endangering others.

Can you please explain?
Thank you!!!








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What do you understand karma as?  People sometimes think "Karma means that if I
do something good, something good will happen to me and if I do something bad
something bad will happen to me" but this is a misunderstanding of karma. It is
a misunderstanding of cause-and-effect.

-TG

--- In kagyu@yahoogroups.com, "bellabelusa" <bellabelusa@...> wrote:
>
> Just wondering if you could explain to me how Karma works...
> I have OCD and it makes Karma a terrifying thing. I feel like the minute I do
something or say something that is negative, it will come back to me...
>
> I already posted it here, but was hoping for more opinions...I drove a bit
Under Influence of alcohol, twice, but made home safe. Now i feel like the Karma
will get me back for endangering others.
>
> Can you please explain?
> Thank you!!!
>

Hi,

On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 5:08 AM, bellabelusa <bellabelusa@...> wrote:
>
> Just wondering if you could explain to me how Karma works...
> I have OCD and it makes Karma a terrifying thing. I feel like the minute I do
something or say something that is negative, it will come back to me...
>
> I already posted it here, but was hoping for more opinions...I drove a bit
Under Influence of alcohol, twice, but made home safe. Now i feel like the Karma
will get me back for endangering others.

A Lama I know often puts it this way: "Perfect not possible!" :-)
There is really no need to put yourself under the immense pressure to
avoid every tiny possible bit of bad Karma.

It is said that the details of the law of Karma are very difficult to
see and understand. So I really can't say much about that. What I've
heard and what makes sense to me is the following analogy:

You want to go from A to B through a dense forest. A is on the left
side of the forest, B is on the right side. There is no trail leading
through from A to B. You never crossed that forest before. When you
first make your way from A to B, you will take a random route. When
you go through it for the second time, you will remember some of that
first route and walk almost the same way. Then, after a while, when
you passed through the forest 50 or 100 times, there will be a real
trail there for you to follow easily. Its easier for you to go along
the known trail. Slowly, it becomes 'your' trail, and after a while
you cant even imagine to go another way from A to B.

This seems to be the way habits form, the way we live and react.
Changing your Karma means looking up a new way and slowly make that
one a new path, a new trail. Being free of Karma means walking a new
way each time you want to go from A to B.

Now for the part where your 'bad deeds' get back at you, I have no
idea. :-) Anyone?

Best,
Christian

Just wondering if you could explain to me how Karma works...
I have OCD and it makes Karma a terrifying thing. I feel like the minute I do
something or say something that is negative, it will come back to me...

I already posted it here, but was hoping for more opinions...I drove a bit Under
Influence of alcohol, twice, but made home safe. Now i feel like the Karma will
get me back for endangering others.

Can you please explain?
Thank you!!!

Thank you for bringing up an important question. Yes, your question does make
sense but I think you may know to some degree, or have been told, that the
reasoning does not make sense. I am aware that merely saying  "that is
illogical" probably doesn't carry much weight compared to what you really feel,
and about your actual experience.

  I don't know what your experience is, but I would like to try to give you a
different understanding about what is meant by karma (at least in the buddhist
context).  And yes, your thoughts do influence your world, but perhaps not in
the way you might suppose.

I hope I can offer some things that you can keep with you.

First, Karma is not going to "get you". Karma is not a mysterious balancing
force in the universe. That is a very common misunderstanding. People often talk
about the "law of karma" and expect rewards or punishments, "payback time" or
even "paid back threefold". That is a simple understanding, but it is somewhat
incorrect. So what is karma?

Everything that we perceive exists as a continuous stream of cause and effect
situations, or very brief events created by the interaction of uncountable
causes.

You cannot predict that something will end as being good or bad because of
karma, because there is no end. There is only a temporary result. Even the
conditions of what seem like the result are changing.

  If you think of a vast ocean churning because of all the wind and gravity and
movement of the waves for thousands of miles, and at one point in the middle of
the ocean a single drop of water splashes up for a split second and returns to
the ocean...why? Why did that drop of water splash up when and where it did?
That is basic karma. You could say it was that drop of water's karma. It's karma
didn't just happen during its existence. Its karma WAS its existence. There is a
lot going on that creates every little situation!

Why does an apple suddenly drop off a tree when it does, and not a second
earlier or a second later? That is, essentially the karma of that apple (the
ripening). But even that apple and even that drop of water are not independently
existing things. They are the result, only for that moment, of strings of events
going back to the beginning of the universe, and they in turn produce events yet
to happen. So every moment is the ripening of a lot of karma of a lot of things.
Every moment is the continuous ripening of the karma of the whole universe.

We can consciously influence some of these strings of events. But this is not a
mysterious force of the mind.  If you choose to drive drunk this is your
conscious mind influencing events. Our motivation and our choices also influence
the karma stream of our lives.  Kindness as well as anger both create seeds and
growing conditions that influence the fruit we bear, but it is all from within.
We reward and punish ourselves with our karma.

  Yes, you do endanger other people by driving drunk, but that does not mean that
therefore you or your family will be in danger in the future because of the
specific details of that particular situation.

However, habits are patterns, and a pattern is the repetition of the same thing
again and again. There is a saying in Tibet. "once you roll up a sheet of paper
it is hard to make it lie flat again". We change the conditions of things and
the patterns in our lives by our conscious actions, by increasing or decreasing
our repeated or habitual patterns.

If you drive drunk once, it becomes easier to drive drunk again, especially if
you managed to "get away with it".  This increases the chance that you may drive
drunk again, perhaps even with family member in your car.  So yes, in this way
your karma might put you or your family in danger from a drunk driver. And that
drunk driver might be you. Whatever karma you experience comes from you. It
isn't like there's "payback time" in the universe. You pay back yourself.

The good thing is that even though you cannot change the world, you can change
your mind and so change your karma.

  The clinical meaning of 'magical thinking' is that one's thoughts seem to make
things happen that otherwise do not have as  good of an explanation. I have a
friend who, when he was a boy was mad at his mom and wished that she was dead
and that day she died in a car crash. There was no ready psychological help for
him back then and to this day he believes -and worries that he could harm people
just by wishing it.

I know that 'logical reasoning' doesn't mean anything if one's direct experience
contradicts it.  But it may help to think about the vast interconnectedness of
things, about how our behaviors can become patterns and how there are some
things, even little things, that we can do, sometimes, to change those patterns.

-TG




--- In kagyu@yahoogroups.com, "bellabelusa" <bellabelusa@...> wrote:
>
> Hey guys, I am new to this group and was hoping to get some help from you, the
members.
>
> I have OCD/magical thinking/anxiety problems, and has been struggling with the
notion of karma.
>
> For example...
>
> I am very much against Drunk Driving...however I had too much to drink last
night but thought i'd sober up by time i had to drive friends home...i was
pretty much okay when i drove, but still, I now feel like i have endangered the
public with DUI the karma is going to get me and something will happen to me or
my family with drunk driver involved...
>
> does it make any sense?
>
> Thank you all a bunch!
>

the idea of Karma can be terrifying for a person with OCD...my drinking has
become a bit of a problem as I am self medicating with it to get rid of anxiety
and all the negative thoughts...

The next night i had a lot less to drink to make sure I was okay, but because of
the medication i was still a little bit UI...drove home safe thankfully.

I hope and wish that you are right and that Karma doesn't work like that,
because in my head I feel like it does.

Hi Bellabel,


I hope you are getting help for your OCD and magical thinking issues.


Lucky for you, this isn't the way karma works. It isn't "tit for tat" -- but in
the future, you should call a cab. If you are arrested for DUI, you will really
regret it. I know. Someone close to me is going thru this right now.


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--- In kagyu@yahoogroups.com, "bellabelusa" <bellabelusa@...> wrote:
>
> I am very much against Drunk Driving...however I had too much to drink last
night but thought i'd sober up by time i had to drive friends home...i was
pretty much okay when i drove, but still, I now feel like i have endangered the
public with DUI the karma is going to get me and something will happen to me or
my family with drunk driver involved...


It sounds like you made it home okay and so did your friends, right? If so, you
are very fortunate.

I'm not a qualified teacher, but IMHO the best thing you could do for your karma
would be to resolve to never drive again after having even a little bit too much
to drink.

And if you have a friend who's getting ready to drive drunk, snatch the keys and
don't let that person to drive--even if it means finding them a place to stay
for the night.

In terms of the final working out of this kind of karma, that's something I
don't think we can know until we are enlightened--but it doesn't take being
enlightened to know that drunk driving not just wrong, but downright dangerous.

In dharma,
Lu in FL

How wonderful to do retreat! I rejoice for you, Jimpa.

In dharma,
Lu in FL

Hey guys, I am new to this group and was hoping to get some help from you, the
members.

I have OCD/magical thinking/anxiety problems, and has been struggling with the
notion of karma.

For example...

I am very much against Drunk Driving...however I had too much to drink last
night but thought i'd sober up by time i had to drive friends home...i was
pretty much okay when i drove, but still, I now feel like i have endangered the
public with DUI the karma is going to get me and something will happen to me or
my family with drunk driver involved...

does it make any sense?

Thank you all a bunch!

Hello Everyone,
     I will be entering a two month preliminary retreat tomorrow and will come
out of retreate on 1/15/2010 and then enter the three year three month retreat
at the Garchen Buddhist Institute, in Chino Valley, Arizona on 02/02/2010.
      I will be discontinuing the post and if anyone wishes to contact me they
can do so at my regular e-mail. My retreat attendant will answer any question or
give you a mailing adress.
      Thank you everyone for the lively debates and the wonderful knowledge you
have given me.

Much love and many blessings,
Jimpa

If anyone has a direct link to the video of HHK on Ted that would be great. I
haven't been able to find it. Just still photos, blogs, etc. Maybe it's not
posted?

Clearing out my shelves

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Prices will be half cover price plus shipping. Feel free to email me with
queries.

Hi,

A while ago someone asked about Rechungpa's future births or lineage and i said
that Traleg Kyabgon Rinpoche is believed to be Rechungpa's reincarnation.
However at the time i had no substantial evidence to back this up and another
member here said that that couldn't be so.

I am just writing this with the hopes that study of the Dharma continues
on-goingly. I have recently been given some evidence to back up what i initially
thought.

From the new book published by KTD, translated by Yeshe Gyamtso, titled 'Nyima
Tashi - The Songs and Instructions of the First Traleg Kyabgon Rinpoche', a
vision of Padmasambhava appears before Nyima Tashi and recounts his past lives.

On page 56 Padmasambhava says...

"You then became Ngokchen Choku Dorje,
Who attended the mahasiddha Marpa.
That awareness then became Rechungpa,
Who attended the mahasiddha Mila."

Hope this helps those who enjoy studying these things.



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Saturday Meditation Program

Time: 11.00 am to 12.30 pm

Evam Institute in Chatham, NY is introducing a new meditation program on
Saturdays, from 11.00 am-12.30 pm, starting this Saturday Nov 14.

The program will be led by Sherab Gyaltsen and will introduce a number
of meditative themes and methods in a practical setting so that new and
old students can become familiar with them in a learning environment.
Buddhist meditation has a variety of practical techniques for working
with the mind - from simple shamatha practice to the lojong practice of
sending and taking - and these will be explored in a relaxed and
practical manner during this program.

The program  will be presented in blocks of 4 or 5 weeks with a 2 week
break in between. the dates for the first two blocks are:

Ist block: Nov 14, 21, 28, Dec 5, 12, 19

2nd block: Jan 9, 16, 23, 30

Beginners and more experienced meditators are all welcome. Please come
to:
171 Water Street, Ghent (village of Chatham)
(518) 392-6900
office@...
www.evam.org

Please go to our Contact Us page at www.evam.org to join our mailing
list and keep up with programs and news of Traleg Kyabgon Rinpoche's
activities.



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In the ten commandments, God admits to having a lot of unresolved anger and
jealousy issues. No wonder his children fight so much. He should go talk to
Buddha. It's never too late to learn how to meditate. -TG