This is an important announcement about
Robert Koch:

Mr. Robert Koch on a number of occasions has been accessing
www.sjvcusa.org web site without authorization of the SJVC-USA and
posting false and misleading information about himself on this
website.
He is in no way connected to SJVC-USA as he claims and does not
represent SJVC-USA in any way. Recently he formed his own
organization called "Sri Jagannath Center" where he is proclaiming
himself to be some kind of Guru.
Just to remind everyone that Mr. Robert Koch has been initiated by
Srila Prabhupada and many years back he has broken sacred lifetime
vows that he has given to his Guru and yet even today he claims to be
a Vedic Brahmin and initiated disciple of Srila Prabhupada and
demands a respect for that.
There has been quite a few people complaining to us about Robert
Koch's practices and just to illustrate experience one of them with
Robert Koch here is one email about Robert Koch that we received
recently:
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Kripapm3@...
To: dnd@...
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 7:16 PM
Subject: Robert Koch


Hi, my name is Paul Manouvrier. Your letter was forwarded to me by
XXXX (name omitted for security reasons) in that I'd had a somewhat
similar encounters with Robert Koch. Although it has been awhile
back, let me see if I can briefly sketch what happened.

I've been doing vedic astrology on my own w/varying amounts of
attention and inattention since the early 80's. Obviously, I could've
used a mentor and this is how I found Robert Koch through the SJVC
web site. At first, we had a pleasant conversation where he agreed
w/me that most of the American vedic astrologers that I'd met through
the ACVA were not very good although they all seem to claim that
they'd spent time in India and had some credentialthat testified to
this. The fact that they weren't any better than I was led me away
from them and to a Hindu astrologer living in Oakland Ca., Pandit
Pravanji, who claimed to be the Father of some female Saint or Guru.
In short, he essentially claimed to channel his in-laws and spent a
lot of my girl friend's reading telling her not to perform oral sex.

Robert Koch informed me that unlike the other mentors, he charged
$100 dollars an hour for his consulting or mentoring services. I was
going to think about it.

Scrolling down his web site, I discovered an advertisement for Pandit
Pravanji on his web site. I emailed him back and said that I did not
want to be associated with that fraud and was irrate in that
suddenly, he seemed no better than the David Frawley crowd, et. al.
He emailed me back that I was wrong. I emailed him back and said that
I knew what I saw. We then entered into a progressively heated
arguement via email where he referred to my chart, which I'd given
him, and said that this was exactly my problem, that I'd done this to
Guru's in a past life. I truly didn't know whether to laugh or
explode. One, I didn't want Robert for a Guru or a teacher of any
kind. All I wanted was for him to tutor me in the Dasa system that
Rath had advocated in his book. Second, even if I'd wanted a mentor,
then it wouldn't be a guy that via email angrily insisted on being my
Guru and that I obey him to the point that I'd said that I'd more
likely kick his ass if I were ever in Oregon. Third, his astrological
analysis was designed to manipulate me and not necessarily true. What
he based it on was taking an astrological molehill and turning it
into a mountain. He motive was to control me which is what would get
a pschologist sued for malpractice. This made me mad(that he would be
willing to do this to the uninformed) so I forwarded the email to
Sanjay Rath. He asked why I was so angry? I enquired that since he
didn't know me, why wouldn't he ask Koch that, first? And, also, into
his faulty astrology. He said that he dis-agreed with Koch about
charging and agreed to mentor me; but then responded 6 weeks later to
my enquiries about Koch's astrological points and said that he was
too busy.

Understand, other than being interested in learning Vedic astrology,
I make no grand spirtual claims other than that i loosely follow
Swami Sachichidannanda of Mysore, i meditate, and worship God. I eat
chicken & fish, have a bad temper, & even shoot hanguns although only
at paper targets and not at animals. However, I do know a fair amount
of Vedic astrology and know enough to know that Koch is limited and
his behavior is manipulative, mercenary, and rancerous. He is not
anybody's Guru but a complete fraud.After reading above email you can
decide if you need a "Guru" like this.