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9941 skarv2006 Offline Send Email Aug 10, 2007
5:08 pm
... Dear Sir. You say you intend to cross an ocean. I don't think lee boards is the best choice for ocean service. I would use a semi long keel(long enough to...
9942 steelsil2 Offline Send Email Aug 10, 2007
7:44 pm
In all candor, I think you need to study a lot more than you have before you consider designing a boat for ocean crossing, or even choosing one. I have known...
9943 Stuart Crawford
stuartcnz Offline Send Email
Aug 11, 2007
5:41 am
While I would not want leeboards on an open water boat, they are not necessarily lacking in sea worthiness. Take for example the Phil Bolger designed...
9944 steelsil2 Offline Send Email Aug 11, 2007
6:58 am
Hi, Stuart It isn't that lee boards are problematic, it is that they go with shoal draft, which means not much righting moment at extreme heel. You need a...
9945 Stuart Crawford
stuartcnz Offline Send Email
Aug 11, 2007
8:51 am
Phil Bolger has designed a more diverse range of boats than any one else I know of. To quote some of his comments about one of his designs called Romp Length...
9946 lself100 Offline Send Email Aug 11, 2007
7:15 pm
There have been circumnavigations by shoal draft boats. Voss's Tillicum was a canoe. Slocum's Spray didn't have much draft. Neither did his Liberdade. Maybe...
9947 lself100 Offline Send Email Aug 11, 2007
7:28 pm
... I'm not so sure that this is entirely true. I've not seen the righting arm vs heel angle graph for a narrow, shoal draft(2 ft), 50% ballast, leeboard...
9948 steelsil2 Offline Send Email Aug 11, 2007
11:27 pm
Stuart, You are going to have a really huge displacement if you make a steel 28 footer and give it a 50% ballast to displacement ratio, in an effort to...
9949 Stuart Crawford
stuartcnz Offline Send Email
Aug 12, 2007
12:25 am
TD, You might want to actually read some of these posts before spouting off! I am not the same person who was asking about steel construction or lee boards. I...
9950 steelsil2 Offline Send Email Aug 12, 2007
1:03 am
Stuart, sorry to have confused you with another poster, but if we agree, what are we arguing about? On my bookshelf you will find, some of them loved half to...
9951 Michael Neverdosky
pipedope66 Offline Send Email
Aug 12, 2007
1:44 am
I see lots of opinions being presented as facts and that doesn't help the discussion much. There are lots of ways to design and build boats to cross oceans and...
9952 shaunbarrymcmillan
shaunbarrymc... Offline Send Email
Aug 12, 2007
5:15 am
if the guy wants to build the boat shoal draft -lee boards, there is really nothing to stop him. he'll find out. the post addressing real experience and...
9953 Wally Paine
wgpaine Offline Send Email
Aug 12, 2007
10:23 am
With respect to Phil Bolger's comment below "...because they skitter away from the blow of a cresting sea and frustrate itıs power." It seems to me that...
9954 Wally Paine
wgpaine Offline Send Email
Aug 12, 2007
10:46 am
I have given some thought to lee boards with respect to a 7 or 8 metre boat for cruising the Thames estuary and the East coast (of the UK) with possible ...
9955 mattipalm Offline Send Email Aug 12, 2007
6:05 pm
We finally made it! Today we went sailing and everything was great. No disasters, no panic, no unhappy faces. Just like I remembered a junk rig sails. Happy...
9956 Stuart Crawford
stuartcnz Offline Send Email
Aug 12, 2007
6:20 pm
Another of the issues faced in the Fastnet disaster was that many boats failed to right them selves after capsize. My understanding of that particular issue,...
9957 skarv2006 Offline Send Email Aug 12, 2007
7:54 pm
... CONGRATULATION MATTI Victor...
9958 Matti Palm
mattipalm Offline Send Email
Aug 12, 2007
8:26 pm
Thank you Victor! Now I actually got some pictures up. /matti ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
9959 Philippe
oneiraca2004 Offline Send Email
Aug 12, 2007
10:24 pm
Hello List, I am contemplating to convert my Roberts Spray 36 (39')to a Chinese Junk and I have some hesitations about the design. My boat was launched in 1991...
9960 Nels
recree8 Offline Send Email
Aug 12, 2007
10:37 pm
It is interesting to read about Traditional Chinese hull forms. Seems like they were relatively shallow draft and with the low aspect sailplan never worried...
9961 Matti Palm
mattipalm Offline Send Email
Aug 13, 2007
5:24 am
On my 36 ft nine tonnes Crown Jewel we have one 800 sq ft sail. I don't know the displacement of a Spray, but I suppose that with the flat bottom of the design...
9962 Philippe
oneiraca2004 Offline Send Email
Aug 13, 2007
12:56 pm
Thanks, The Spray 36 displaces about 15 tons and mine draws 5 feet. Glad to hear that 800 sqf in one sail handles well. I guess this is the beauty of the...
9963 Matti Palm
mattipalm Offline Send Email
Aug 13, 2007
1:15 pm
Hi Philippe. With 15 tons I think 1100 sq ft is a better idea. With two masts and probably double sheets if you need to. /matti www.sylinnea.com ... [Non-text...
9964 Don Taylor
schoonerpilger Offline Send Email
Aug 13, 2007
4:07 pm
... I agree with Matti about the need to fly a lot of sail on _two_ masts. The original poster wanted a single sticker but a single 1100 sq. ft. sail would be...
9965 Leo
jitsuzan Offline Send Email
Aug 13, 2007
7:22 pm
Chinese Junk Shaolin based in Port Douglas, Australia Length 15.24m Breadth 4.27m Draft 2.23m Built Hip Cheung Shipyard, Hong Kong Date Launched 1970 it's not...
9966 arne_kverneland_norway
arne_kvernel... Offline Send Email
Aug 13, 2007
10:18 pm
Stavanger, 14.8.2007,around midnight... Hi Philippe. The choice of number of masts for your size of boat depends a bit of your kind of sailing. If you plan a...
9967 ANDREW AIREY
andyairey Offline Send Email
Aug 13, 2007
10:51 pm
Your best bet for information on both steel hulls,shoal draft and leeboards is to loook at Dutch practise(for everything) and English sailing barge practise...
9968 De Clarke
de_anander Offline Send Email
Aug 13, 2007
11:24 pm
I have been distracted by land-based problems and crises from thinking about my Mast Problem for quite a while, but on the back burner the question keeps...
9969 Gary PIck
hartleyspind... Offline Send Email
Aug 13, 2007
11:51 pm
Your biggest problem is going to be getting laminations long enough. ... 1850mm long. Gary...
9970 Annie Hill
annietrevor Offline Send Email
Aug 13, 2007
11:55 pm
I'm interested in this debate and we need to be sure just what we are discussing. I've met Jim Melcher, who owns 'Alerte', the Bolger boat in question, which...
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