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5828 Jef & Barbra d'Engle
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Dec 1, 2004
12:21 pm
On The banks of the Vaal Dam in South Africa Jef ... From: Victor Winterthun <victor.winterthun@...> To: <junkrig@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, November...
5829 John Spoering
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Dec 1, 2004
10:08 pm
Hello - Is it possible to email to me the information I need to subscribe to the Junk Rig Newsletter ? Aloha - Jack Spoering - Ft Lauderdale, Fl....
5830 Don Taylor
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Dec 1, 2004
10:14 pm
... subscribe to the Junk Rig Newsletter ? ... Spoering - Ft Lauderdale, Fl. spoering@e... ... Robin Blain 373 Hunts Pond Road, Fareham Hants P014 4PB ...
5831 Victor Winterthun
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Dec 2, 2004
9:34 am
Hi Jef Regarding boats for sale in South Africa, You may ask designer Dudley Dix. at http://www.dixdesign.com Are you sure the Rebel is 19'? I can only find a...
5832 Andre Venter
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Dec 2, 2004
11:51 pm
Dudley no longer lives in South Africa and he probably can only tell you about his designs.He is not realy a junk rig fan, unless he has changed his mind since...
5833 edward_stoneuk Offline Send Email Dec 3, 2004
2:01 pm
Jef, Robin Blain has a list of junk rig boats for sale worldwide. Regards, Ted Stone...
5834 B.J.Slotboom
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Dec 4, 2004
1:25 pm
Hi all, Going thru Marchaj's 'Aero-hydrodynamics of sailing', I found a graph on page 445 that perfectly explains the proportions of the Reddish sail. It shows...
5835 Victor Winterthun
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Dec 4, 2004
2:09 pm
Hi Bernard. Thank you for interesting info. It would be very interesting to know how much camber that is needed to make the sail go well upwind too. Say...
5836 B.J.Slotboom
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Dec 4, 2004
6:14 pm
Hi Victor, The funny thing is, a sail of these proportions (AR=1.5) does not need any camber at all to produce the necessary lift. You can use some camber to...
5837 Victor Winterthun
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Dec 4, 2004
7:17 pm
Hi Bernard. So what you say is that this kind of sail is ideal for boats working with the monsoons. Victor ... From: B.J.Slotboom To: junkrig@yahoogroups.com ...
5838 Don Taylor
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Dec 4, 2004
8:39 pm
... Bernard: How does Marchaj define AR? Height/Width of a box bounding the sailplan? If so, then Tom Colvin's sailplan has an AR of 1.5 and he has always ...
5839 B.J.Slotboom
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Dec 4, 2004
9:43 pm
Hi Victor, That is right. It is ideal for reaching and running. Of course it can go upwind as well, but not as good as higher rigs. You could make it higher by...
5840 B.J.Slotboom
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Dec 4, 2004
9:58 pm
Hi Don, Aspect ratio is defined as : height^2/sail area. According to that definition Tom Colvin's sail plan has an AR of 2, so Clmax will be about 0.9 . ...
5841 jameshanahan Offline Send Email Dec 4, 2004
10:42 pm
... Hi Don, Extremely interesting stuff but I don't understand the symbols as typed. Could you repeat the info in longhand? Thanks, Jim...
5842 jameshanahan Offline Send Email Dec 4, 2004
11:53 pm
Apologies to Bernard and Don. Let me start again! ... Hi Bernard,...
5843 Don Taylor
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Dec 4, 2004
11:54 pm
... Jim: The aspect ratio (AR) of a sail is a (dimensionless) measure of its proportions. A high aspect ratio denote a sail that is tall and skinny - like...
5844 jameshanahan Offline Send Email Dec 5, 2004
1:18 am
Marchaj's definition of AR is height squared (height^2) divided by the ... If ... then ... Thanks for the explanation, Don. It seems like a little more of the ...
5845 Woodbridge Farm
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Dec 5, 2004
2:26 pm
Dear Bernard, For an offshore cruiser then, could it be practical to get the best of both worlds from one sail by designing this rig with a higher aspect ratio...
5846 B.J.Slotboom
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Dec 5, 2004
4:13 pm
Hi Steven, Giving the rig a higher aspect ratio would make it more suitable for beating, but you need camber to keep the lift at the same level. Reefing it, to...
5847 kakwariver Offline Send Email Dec 5, 2004
4:43 pm
OK,so camber works best in a high aspect sail and a flat sail works better in a low aspect rig. Is it known if gurney flaps/spoon leech's work better in a high...
5848 B.J.Slotboom
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Dec 5, 2004
5:59 pm
Camber is always a good thing. In a low AR rig it is not absolutely necessay to get the lift you want, but you can get the same lift for a little less drag. In...
5849 Don Taylor
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Dec 6, 2004
12:03 am
... Bernard: This is a very interesting discussion. Can sufficient camber on a high(er) aspect ratio rig make up for the loss of delta CL? Don....
5850 Don Taylor
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Dec 6, 2004
12:26 am
Bernard has pointed out the performance benefit that can be achieved by using a low aspect ratio sail plan. Other significant advantages include reducing...
5851 Timothy Dunn
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Dec 6, 2004
12:53 am
Hi, Don I think that you are right, that is that double sheets would be less trouble with a euphroe system. I like the Hasler sheeting system because I want...
5852 Don Taylor
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Dec 6, 2004
1:48 am
... Tim: I wonder who you could be talking about ;-) However, I may have had an 'ah-ha!' moment about my hard to reach euphroes. Or, maybe not, we will have...
5853 Timothy Dunn
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Dec 6, 2004
3:48 am
Hi, Don At least there are bunches and bunches of Gazelles and other TC designs out there, especially on the Atlantic coast. I've even seen a few out here on...
5854 B.J.Slotboom
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Dec 6, 2004
8:04 am
Hi Don, Yes, it can. Marchaj's Finn-sail (AR = 3.1 with 10% camber) has a Clmax = 1.3 . A flat Reddish sail with AR = 1.5 will have a Clmax = 1.3 , and with...
5855 Victor Winterthun
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Dec 6, 2004
10:15 am
Hi. I remember I read in the JRA Newsletter that somebody had rigged his double sheeted sail with a rope going in a sling forward of the mast, and around the...
5856 B.J.Slotboom
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Dec 6, 2004
3:02 pm
... A few more comments on the above statement. Although Marchaj does not specifically say so, it is reasonable to assume that the AR-deltaCL graph on page 445...
5857 De Clarke
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Dec 7, 2004
4:54 am
to the fellow who was looking for junk rigged boats... try http://www.ucolick.org/~de/boat/boatsearch.html a scrape of all yachtworld listings that looked...
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