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#196 From: Thedmo <thedmo@...>
Date: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:56 pm
Subject: Re: [John Gardner] 13th Batavia Reads Gardner held on October 24
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Thanks, Charley.
I hope to make it one of these years...

I see the Camp Gardner page is down...anyone know anything about it.

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Subject: [John Gardner] 13th Batavia Reads Gardner held on October 24
To: johngardner@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 7:47 AM






 





                   For those of you who missed this year's event at the
Pok-A-Dot, I am in the

process of uploading vids to youtube.

Here are links to three:



http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=zE1gQ9khhkE

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=VmbrhNYgANA



a couple of excerpts from Joan Gardner's book:

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=F6zM2k8xjNw



John Maier part 1: http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=S4f-xdEi0pw

John Maier part 2: http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=nBm1Bacs7Gk



Another 5 will be posted in a bit.

Enjoy,

Charley Boyd



BTW--we will definitely host a conference in 2010.




























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#195 From: "lame14020" <caboyd@...>
Date: Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:47 pm
Subject: 13th Batavia Reads Gardner held on October 24
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For those of you who missed this year's event at the Pok-A-Dot, I am in the
process of uploading vids to youtube.
Here are links to three:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE1gQ9khhkE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmbrhNYgANA

a couple of excerpts from Joan Gardner's book:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6zM2k8xjNw

John Maier part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4f-xdEi0pw
John Maier part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBm1Bacs7Gk

Another 5 will be posted in a bit.
Enjoy,
Charley Boyd

BTW--we will definitely host a conference in 2010.

#194 From: "lame14020" <caboyd@...>
Date: Wed Apr 1, 2009 12:02 pm
Subject: 2009 Gardner Conference Postponed
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The April 2009 Gardner Conference has been postponed.  It will be rescheduled as
a "John Gardner Weekend" on July 18 and 19.  In addition to the usual conference
elements, writing workshops will be held.  We should have details up by the end
of the month.

And no, this is not an April Fool's joke.

--Charley Boyd

#193 From: "lame14020" <caboyd@...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:14 pm
Subject: Batavia Reads Gardner 2008
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For those of you who were unable to make this year's reading at the
Pok-a-dot, here is a Youtube clip of some of the readings:

http://www.thebatavian.com/blogs/darrickc/batavia-reads-john-
gardner/2577

Just cut and paste into your browsers.

Hope to see you there next year.
Enjoy,
Charley Boyd

#192 From: "lame14020" <caboyd@...>
Date: Thu Oct 2, 2008 12:07 pm
Subject: Batavia Reads Gardner 2008
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I know it's a bit late, but I have just uploaded the file announcing
this year's fall gathering of Gardner aficionados on October 18.
Readings will begin about 8 p.m. at the Pokadot.  Contact me if you
would like to read a short Gardner passage of your own choosing.  This
will be the 12th year for the event.

Hope to see some of you there,
Charley Boyd

#191 From: johngardner@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu Oct 2, 2008 12:05 pm
Subject: New file uploaded to johngardner
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#190 From: "Kim Barnes" <kbarnes@...>
Date: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:58 pm
Subject: Gardner quote
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All:

Does anyone know the source of this quote attributed to Gardner?

"THE FALL FROM GRACE IS ENDLESS."

Thanks!

KB


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#189 From: "lame14020" <caboyd@...>
Date: Thu Nov 8, 2007 1:33 pm
Subject: More great trailers
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Hi everybody,
Two items for your pleasure:
1. For more excellent video trailers by Joel, goto
  http://web.mac.com/joelgardner/Site/Sunlight_Man.html

2.Mark your calendar for the last Saturday in April, 2008 for the next
Gardner Conference to be held in Batavia at Genesee Community College.
Consider this message to also be an informal call for proposals, too.
Joel is promising some great surprises for the conference!

Enjoy,
Charley Boyd
John Gardner Society
Batavia, NY

#188 From: "lame14020" <caboyd@...>
Date: Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:32 am
Subject: The fall Gardnerfest--our 11th one!
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Once again, we have scheduled the fall Gardnerfest at the Pok-a-dot in
Batavia; this time it will be on the final Saturday in October. We
hope you will join us as we read passages from Gardner.

Author Bill Kauffman asked me to pass along this query for the group:

"Hi Folks-
I pass along these two questions from a Gardnerian who assures me
that their relevance will be revealed at the October Gardner Reading
at the Pok-a-dot.
1) What was John Gardner's favorite color?
2) What was John Gardner's favorite flower?
Ridiculous conjectures and half-educated guesses welcome.
Best,
Bill Kauffman
bkbatavia@..."

Thanks,
Charley Boyd

#187 From: "lame14020" <caboyd@...>
Date: Fri Feb 2, 2007 3:38 pm
Subject: Call for Papers for 2007 Conference
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Hi everybody,
We have a date and place for the 2007 Gardner Conference. Sandy
Hiortdahl has been working hard to put this together for Saturday,
April 23 in Susquehanna. I have placed the Call for Papers in
the "files" folder here.  We hope you will present and/or attend.
If you can, please help out by posting copies of the Call for Papers
wherever you can.

Thanks,
Charley Boyd
John Gardner Society

#186 From: roncriss
Date: Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:21 pm
Subject: New Look
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I've given the group photo and the colors a bit of a tweak:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/johngardner/

Ron

#185 From: johngardner@yahoogroups.com
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#184 From: "lame14020" <caboyd@...>
Date: Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:17 pm
Subject: Opening of Grendel the opera
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II was asked to distribute this notice at next week's Gardner
Conference (hoping to see all of you there).
--Charley Boyd

  would be grateful if you would share this news with the people at
next week's conference.  Thanks.

Contact:  Gary Murphy (213) 972-7554
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Eileen McMahon (212) 875-5391
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ELLIOT GOLDENTHAL'S FIRST OPERA, GRENDEL,
DIRECTED BY JULIE TAYMOR
PREMIERES MAY 27, 2006 AT LOS ANGELES OPERA
NEW YORK PREMIERE JULY 11 AT LINCOLN CENTER FESTIVAL

Grendel is based on the novel by John Gardner and the epic poem,
Beowulf
Bass Eric Owens sings the title role; mezzo-soprano Denyce Graves is
The Dragon


Los Angeles Opera and Lincoln Center Festival have co-commissioned
Grendel, the first opera by composer Elliot Goldenthal. Grendel will
be directed by Julie Taymor, who is also co-librettist with J. D.
McClatchy. The world premiere will take place in Los Angeles on May
27, 2006 in the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion. In New York, Grendel
premieres at the New York State Theater, July 11, the opening night
of the Lincoln Center Festival.
Grendel is a darkly comic retelling of the Beowulf epic from the
monster's point of view. Estranged from nature and outcast from the
world of men, Grendel is a passionate thinker trapped in the body of
a beast. A killer who can't control his own instincts, the great
monster struggles to transcend his condition in a quest for meaning
and purpose. Based on the 1971 novel by John Gardner and the Anglo-
Saxon legends of Beowulf, Grendel features a score by Academy Award
winner Elliot Goldenthal, whose richly layered work unleashes moments
of often unnerving emotional power. The brilliant Emmy and Tony
winning director Julie Taymor, co-author of the libretto with J. D.
McClatchy, will create an astonishing visual world utilizing singers,
dancers, film, puppetry and masks.
Bass Eric Owens stars in the fascinating title role, with mezzo-
soprano Denyce Graves as the cynical Dragon whose wisdom reveals
Grendel's inevitable role as the Eternal Enemy. Soprano Laura
Claycomb is the Queen whose beauty washes away the hostilities of
sworn foes. Tenor Jay Hunter Morris is the brave warrior who fails in
his quest to slay the beast. Tenor Richard Croft debuts as the Blind
Harpist, a poet whose songs inspire Grendel's adversaries with
visions of a glorious future and sly revisions of the bloody past.
Acclaimed dancer Desmond Richardson, former principal dancer with
Alvin Ailey American Dance Theater and American Ballet Theater,
performs the role of Beowulf.



The Creative Team

Composer Elliot Goldenthal creates works for orchestra, theater,
ballet and film.  His large scale symphonic piece, FIRE WATER PAPER
was commissioned by the Pacific Symphony Orchestra as a commemorative
tribute on the 20th anniversary of the Vietnam War; it was released
in 1996 on Sony Classical Records featuring soloist Yo Yo Ma.
Conductor Seiji Ozawa later toured FIRE WATER PAPER with the Boston
Symphony Orchestra in critically acclaimed performances at Boston
Symphony Hall, Carnegie Hall and at the Kennedy Center. In 1997,
Goldenthal's ballet OTHELLO premiered at New York's Metropolitan
Opera House. It was co-produced by the American Ballet Theater in
partnership with the San Francisco Ballet and the Lar Lubovitch Dance
Company.  Currently in the repertoires of the ABT and the San
Francisco Ballet, OTHELLO aired on PBS Great Performances in 2003 and
was nominated for an Emmy.  Goldenthal has collaborated with Julie
Taymor on numerous theatrical productions including Liberty's Taken,
The Transposed Heads, The Tempest, Taming of the Shrew, Titus
Andronicus, The Green Bird (Broadway's Cort Theater) and Juan Darién:
A Carnival Mass, which received an Obie and five Tony nominations and
four Drama Desk nominations (for Lincoln Center Theater's production
at the Vivian Beaumont Theatre in 1996).  He also scored Taymor's
films Fool's Fire, Titus and Frida, for which he received an Oscar
and a Golden Globe.

Julie Taymor directs theater, opera and film.  Her acclaimed
production of Die Zauberflöte opened last year under the baton of
James Levine and is now in repertoire at The Metropolitan Opera.  She
also directed the films Titus (two Academy Award nominations) and
Frida (six Academy Award nominations, two Academy Awards). She is
directing a new film, Across the Universe, currently in production.
She received two Tony Awards for The Lion King, for her costume
designs and for best direction for the musical which can currently be
seen on nine stages worldwide.  A DVD of her direction of
Stravinsky's Oedipus Rex (with Seiji Ozawa conducting, Saito Kinen
Festival) will be released this year by Phillips/Decca.

J. D. McClatchy is considered one of the most eloquent poets to
emerge from his generation.  He has authored several collections of
poems.  He is a literary essayist and editor of several books,
including Edna St. Vincent Millay's Selected Poems (2003), James
Merrill's Collected Novels and Plays (2002), Horace: The Odes (2002),
and many others. He edits the acclaimed series The Voice of the Poet
for Random House AudioBooks.  His fiction appears regularly in The
New Yorker, The New York Times Book Review, The Paris Review, and The
New Republic. An accomplished librettist, he has recently completed a
libretto of 1984 in collaboration with Lorin Maazel, and is at work
on other new projects with Lowell Liebermann and Ned Rorem.  A multi-
award winning poet, he was named a Chancellor of the Academy of
American Poets. Mr. McClatchy is also Professor of English at Yale.

The scenic design for Grendel will be by George Tsypin, Taymor's
collaborator on this season's acclaimed production of Die Zauberflöte
at the Metropolitan Opera.  The costume designer is Constance
Hoffman, whose designs for Taymor on the Broadway production of The
Green Bird garnered an Outer Critics Circle Award.  The lighting
design is by Donald Holder, who won a 1998 Best Lighting Design Tony
Award for Taymor's Broadway production of The Lion King.  Michael
Curry, who collaborated with Taymor on the puppets for Die
Zauberflöte, among other projects, is co-designing the puppets and
masks for Grendel.

*

Los Angeles Opera
World premiere: May 27, 2006 at 7:30 PM
Performances: June 1 at 7:30 PM, 3 at 2 PM, 8 at 7:30 PM, 11 at 2 PM,
14 and
17 at 7:30 PM

Lincoln Center Festival 2006
New York premiere: July 11, 2006 at 7:30 PM
Performances: July 13, 15, 16 at 7:30 PM
New York State Theater
Tickets: $40, 60, 80, 100, 130, 175, 200
Performed in English and Old English with English supertitles.


Grendel
based on John Gardner's novel Grendel and the epic poem Beowulf
Grendel is a co-commission and co-production with Los Angeles Opera
Elliot Goldenthal, composer
Julie Taymor and J.D. Mc Clatchy, co-librettists
Steven Sloane, conductor
Julie Taymor, director
Angelin Preljocaj, choreographer
George Tsypin, set designer
Constance Hoffman, costume designer
Don Holder, lighting designer
Michael Curry and Julie Taymor, puppet co-designers
Modern VideoFilm, film consultant/designer
Eric Owens, Grendel
Denyce Graves, The Dragon
Richard Croft, The Blind Harpist (The Shaper)
Jay Hunter Morris, Unferth
Desmond Richardson, Beowulf
Laura Claycomb, Queen Wealtheow
David Gagnon, tenor; Jonathan Hays, baritone; Charles Temkey, bass:
Shadow Grendels
Sopranos Hanan Alattar, Maureen Francis, and Jessica Swink:
Dragonettes

LINCOLN CENTER FESTIVAL 2006 TICKETS
TICKETS for Festival 2006 go on sale Monday, May 1 for multiple-event
buyers via CenterCharge, 212-721-6500, online at
www.lincolncenter.org and by mail to the Avery Fisher Hall Box
Office, 10 Lincoln Center Plaza, NYC, 10023. Single tickets go on
sale Wednesday, June 14 at the Avery Fisher Hall Box Office, 65th
Street and Broadway, as well as at all of the above outlets.

For more information visit www.lincolncenter.org and register for "My
Lincoln Center" to receive a Festival brochure, updates, and special
offers. You may also call Lincoln Center Customer Service at 212-875-
5456.


# # #




Eileen McMahon
Director of Publicity and Publications
LCPA INC.
70 Lincoln Center Plaza, 9th floor
New York, NY 10023
212.875.5391

#183 From: johngardner@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:50 pm
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#182 From: johngardner@yahoogroups.com
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#181 From: johngardner@yahoogroups.com
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#180 From: "George & Christine Gaudette" <gaudette@...>
Date: Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:04 pm
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Hi Charley,

I added a note about the Gardner Fest to www.johngardner.org. Please
let me know if it needs any corrections.


-George

#179 From: "lame14020" <caboyd@...>
Date: Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:23 am
Subject: Upcoming Fall Gardner Fest in Batavia
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Hello all,
Once again it is time to announce another fine evening of readings at
the Pokadot Restaurant( mentioned in Sunlight Dialogues) here in
Batavia. Of course the gathering will be Saturday, October 22 at 8
p.m. to be precise. My understanding is that John loved the chili dogs
with the works served at this great little place, so here is your
chance to read with us and digest more than the ambiance.

If you would like to read, just contact me.
Enjoy,
Charley Boyd
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585-343-0055 ext. 6281

#178 From: Alexander M Zoltai <alexandermzoltai@...>
Date: Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:57 pm
Subject: Re: [John Gardner] Re: Jason & Medeia - II
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<alexandermzoltai@b...> wrote:
> I looked further at:
> http://www.sunygenesee.cc.ny.us/gcc/gardner/henderson.htm
>  "John  Gardner  and  the  Great  Tradition:  Ruminations  on
Fictional
> Method" by Jeff Henderson
....
>  Must set time aside to digest the whole essay!
> ~ Alex
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From: roncriss...
Alex,
I hope you'll share your conclusions with us.
Ron
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  Absolutely!
  Jeff's essay is brilliant!!! He says everything I would have said about JCG if
I'd known the facts and if I wrote like Jeff.
  I've subsequently asked Mr. Henderson if he would expatiate on a certain
comment in his essay and it appears that a certain debatably-good writer has
been tying up the lines of communication...
~ Alex
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#177 From: roncriss
Date: Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:21 am
Subject: [John Gardner] Re: Jason & Medeia - II
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Alex,

I hope you'll share your conclusions with us.

Ron

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> I looked further at:
> http://www.sunygenesee.cc.ny.us/gcc/gardner/henderson.htm
> "John Gardner and the Great Tradition: Ruminations on Fictional
> Method" by Jeff Henderson
> and, on first scan saw this:
> "Gardner's greater challenge was to create a structure that would
succeed both as narrative and as poetry. Since he had already
demonstrated his mastery of narrative techniques and perspectives in
four novels, it is neither surprising nor fortuitous that the long,
unrhymed accentual hexameters of Jason and Medeia--a loose
approximation of Greek epic form--flow as smoothly as the author's
best prose. Moreover, Gardner's language here possesses the
syntactic, semantic, and metaphoric compression and density, as well
as the imaginative and imagistic power and resonance, that we
associate with the best poetry."
>  Must set time aside to digest the whole essay!
> ~ Alex
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#176 From: Alexander M Zoltai <alexandermzoltai@...>
Date: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:46 pm
Subject: Re: [John Gardner] Re: Jason & Medeia - II
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I looked further at:
http://www.sunygenesee.cc.ny.us/gcc/gardner/henderson.htm
"John Gardner and the Great Tradition: Ruminations on Fictional
Method" by Jeff Henderson
and, on first scan saw this:
"Gardner's greater challenge was to create a structure that would succeed both
as narrative and as poetry. Since he had already demonstrated his mastery of
narrative techniques and perspectives in four novels, it is neither surprising
nor fortuitous that the long, unrhymed accentual hexameters of Jason and
Medeia--a loose approximation of Greek epic form--flow as smoothly as the
author's best prose. Moreover, Gardner's language here possesses the syntactic,
semantic, and metaphoric compression and density, as well as the imaginative and
imagistic power and resonance, that we associate with the best poetry."
  Must set time aside to digest the whole essay!
~ Alex
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#175 From: Alexander M Zoltai <alexandermzoltai@...>
Date: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:36 pm
Subject: Re: [John Gardner] Re: Jason & Medeia - II
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Ron wrote:
"As  far  as  I know its not available online but you might look for a copy of:
"John Gardner's Jason and Medeia: The Resurrection of a Genre."
Papers of Language and Literature 22 (1986): 76-95. ...

  Thanks, again, Ron! I googled the title of the paper and found this:
http://www.sunygenesee.cc.ny.us/gcc/gardner/henderson.htm
"John Gardner and the Great Tradition: Ruminations on Fictional Method"
by Jeff Henderson
~ Alex
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#174 From: Alexander M Zoltai <alexandermzoltai@...>
Date: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:31 pm
Subject: Re: [John Gardner] Re: Jason & Medeia
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roncriss posted:
"Jason and Medeia, another book that I did, is about a set of
polarities that are in the original myth and that are in the
commentaries on the myth. It's....
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~ Alex
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#173 From: roncriss
Date: Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:15 pm
Subject: Re: Jason & Medeia
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As far as I know its not available online but you might look for a copy
of:

"John Gardner's Jason and Medeia: The Resurrection of a Genre." Papers
of Language and Literature 22 (1986): 76-95.

Does anybody have a file of this?

Ron

--- In johngardner@yahoogroups.com, "Alexander M Zoltai"
<alexandermzoltai@b...> wrote:
> Hello,
>  This is my first post to this group.
>  I'm a poet who has been in love with John Gardner's work for many
> years.
>  I'm finally reading "Jason & Medeia": first time (now), to enjoy the
> story; second time, to analyze the poetic structure and texture of
the
> work; third time, to enjoy the story on a deeper level.
>  If anyone can give me a lead on Internet resources about the book
and
> its poetic nature, I'd greatly appreciate it.
> ~ Alex

#172 From: roncriss
Date: Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:11 pm
Subject: Re: Jason & Medeia
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"Jason and Medeia, another book that I did, is about a set of
polarities that are in the original myth and that are in the
commentaries on the myth. It's a modernized version of the same
question. First of all, it's the polarity of male and female. Jason
is sort of archetypically male and Medeia archetypically female and
that's a question which has become very interesting with the new
feminist movement and gay lib and everything else, where sexuality
becomes once again a front question for philosophy. It's also a book
about the mystical intuity. Male and female again in terms of brain
lobes and so on. The whole polarity of maleness and femaleness is
the subject matter of Jason and Medeia and by the time you get
through the book you know everything I think and I know everything I
think about that. I didn't know, by the way, when I started out what
I was going to think about those things but in working out the story
and in trying to tell the truth, trying to say, that is what she
would do, and he would do, it would do, and they would do, I come to
the conclusion, which is the book. Each book has its different
subject. It all adds up. The whole output adds up to a continuing
examination of method, a total world view, or nation order, or
whatever you want to call it. I am conscious that each book is about
something different and that it's always on the same fundamental
question. If I found that I was doing a book exactly like the one I
did before on the same subject I'd be pretty worried and I'd
probably drop the book or I'd try very hard to say the opposite
thing from what I said the last time. If I could prove that I
changed my mind then I'd be interested, otherwise it would be a
horrible book."

John Gardner from an interview:

http://www.atticusbooks.com/gargoyle/Issues/scanned/issue11/gardner.h
tm





--- In johngardner@yahoogroups.com, "Alexander M Zoltai"
<alexandermzoltai@b...> wrote:
> Hello,
>  This is my first post to this group.
>  I'm a poet who has been in love with John Gardner's work for many
> years.
>  I'm finally reading "Jason & Medeia": first time (now), to enjoy
the
> story; second time, to analyze the poetic structure and texture of
the
> work; third time, to enjoy the story on a deeper level.
>  If anyone can give me a lead on Internet resources about the book
and
> its poetic nature, I'd greatly appreciate it.
> ~ Alex

#171 From: "Alexander M Zoltai" <alexandermzoltai@...>
Date: Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:30 pm
Subject: Jason & Medeia
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Hello,
  This is my first post to this group.
  I'm a poet who has been in love with John Gardner's work for many
years.
  I'm finally reading "Jason & Medeia": first time (now), to enjoy the
story; second time, to analyze the poetic structure and texture of the
work; third time, to enjoy the story on a deeper level.
  If anyone can give me a lead on Internet resources about the book and
its poetic nature, I'd greatly appreciate it.
~ Alex

#170 From: roncriss
Date: Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:25 am
Subject: New Photo
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I just fiddled around with the old Group Photo of JG:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/johngardner/

You can see the before and after in the Photo Albums in the album
titled "Yahoo! Photos".

Let me know what you think.

Ron

#169 From: roncriss
Date: Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:13 am
Subject: Re: Very good news
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Stuart,

Thanks for posting the info. I do believe I created this group a
couple years before the other one. But the more the merrier I say!
I'm also a member of that list too. I hope you'll continue to post
to both.

Ron

--- In johngardner@yahoogroups.com, "stuart_vyse" <stuart.vyse@c...>
wrote:
>
> I posted this to the other list, but in case the membership of the
two (why are there two?)
> lists is not completely identical, I will post it here, too.
>
> Dear All,
>
> I have learned that New Directions is planning to reprint a number
of Gardner's novels
> over the next few years. (As you may realize, all but Grendel are
currently out of print.)
> October Light will be published this Fall, and Sunlight Dialogues
and Nickel Mountain will
> be reissued in '06 and '07. The order of publication of the last
two has not been decided
> upon, but New Directions has committed to publishing these three.
Other novels are under
> consideration for subsequent releases.
>
> I learned about the New Directions plans from Liz Rosenberg and
followed up with a
> phone call to the New Directions office. They provided the
information above and
> encouraged me to spread the word.
>
> Great news!
>
> Stuart Vyse

#168 From: "stuart_vyse" <stuart.vyse@...>
Date: Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:05 am
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I posted this to the other list, but in case the membership of the two (why are
there two?)
lists is not completely identical, I will post it here, too.

Dear All,

I have learned that New Directions is planning to reprint a number of Gardner's
novels
over the next few years. (As you may realize, all but Grendel are currently out
of print.)
October Light will be published this Fall, and Sunlight Dialogues and Nickel
Mountain will
be reissued in '06 and '07. The order of publication of the last two has not
been decided
upon, but New Directions has committed to publishing these three. Other novels
are under
consideration for subsequent releases.

I learned about the New Directions plans from Liz Rosenberg and followed up with
a
phone call to the New Directions office. They provided the information above and
encouraged me to spread the word.

Great news!

Stuart Vyse

#167 From: "Brian Holly" <bholly72@...>
Date: Tue Mar 8, 2005 8:10 pm
Subject: Re: Musical?
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Umm, which works HAVE already been given musical treatment?
Obviously, a prerequisite for a successful musical is a romance, so I
guess Grendel is out. - Brian

--- In johngardner@yahoogroups.com, "lame14020" <caboyd@g...> wrote:
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I am posting this to both Gardner Groups. Several of us are
thinking
> about a project here in Batavia, so I promised to ask this group
the
> following question:
>
> Excluding any of his works that have already been given a musical
> treatment, which works do you think would make the most
interesting,
> costume-rich musical?  His children's works would be fair game.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charley Boyd
> Genesee Community College

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