Hey everyone - I was wondering if anyone had read The Development yet and if there was any kind of consensus re its worth. I'm a fan of the early Barth more...
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Josiah Miller
josiahthemes...
Dec 4, 2008 5:37 pm
I've been reading it, but if you don't like his newer stuff, I wouldn't recommend it. The last one I've read before this was the 3 novellas and I liked that...
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Mark Brawner
markbrawner
Dec 11, 2008 7:50 pm
... I've got it, but I'm sorry to say I haven't got around to it yet. I'm sure I will over the holidays......
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Krzysztof Majer
krismajer
Dec 25, 2008 6:11 pm
Hi all & Merry Xmas! It's been ages since I last posted anything, but because I now have more time on my hands than I did for the last two years or so, I ...
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Barbara Schmidt
barbstoo
Dec 25, 2008 9:08 pm
nice to year from you, and happy holidays to all. Oh how I wish I could argue with you. I haven't gotten as far as you- perhaps there will be nothing else at...
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gryzjer
Dec 25, 2008 10:19 pm
Hi Barbara, ... and I'll ... my sentiments exactly, even if it's only thirty pages that are left in my case - but I sensed, putting the book aside, that I was...
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gryzjer
Dec 25, 2008 10:22 pm
Just so there isn't any confusion, the last message was from me - i.e. Kris - this is my more recent yahoo account. I still haven't worked out how to change...
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Glenn Gamblin
crimhedd2
Dec 27, 2008 3:40 pm
Haven't cracked The Development yet, if indeed I ever will. From that basically uninformed (and therefore unbiased?) perspective, let me share a story from a...
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Josiah Miller
josiahthemes...
Dec 27, 2008 6:44 pm
That's a shame. I actually liked The Development and was going to suggest a group read of it. The last two stories really wrapped up the whole book. It...
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kris_majer
Dec 27, 2008 11:35 pm
... I was hoping that someone would defend the book, so I'm happy that you did.. And maybe a group read isn't a bad idea, either - so far nobody has...
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kris_majer
Dec 27, 2008 11:58 pm
... Bob ... I understand the sentiment, although it's not really that I feel betrayed by Barth's recent stuff. And I would never part with my copies of his...
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Blair Mahoney
blairrm
Dec 28, 2008 12:02 am
It's nice to see the list come out of hibernation! I too will stick up for The Development. I understand your criticism of it Kris. I just don't get the same...
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John Shelby
johnshelby
Dec 28, 2008 4:41 am
It's been a while since I've been through Tidewater Tales, so I may be way off, but as I was reading these last few posts, I was put in mind of Peter...
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Елена ТÐ...
etarnarutskaya
Dec 28, 2008 8:41 am
Hi I'm so glad the group has woken up! ... I agree with John on read JB from the beginning as it would help see what he calls *reprise* and which is probably...
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kris_majer
Dec 28, 2008 1:03 pm
... I guess that the artist exhausting and then replenishing himself by some kind of self-reflexive trick or other has been one of JB's grand themes in and out...
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kris_majer
Dec 28, 2008 1:27 pm
... I'm glad! ... My problem is that I'm stuck with the familiarity, while the satisfaction almost never arrives... ... I might have exaggerated for the sake...
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kris_majer
Dec 28, 2008 1:47 pm
And as we wait for more defense, let me add some more to the balance and say what I *liked* about The Development. The reader as Peeping Tom in the first...
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Glenn Gamblin
crimhedd2
Dec 28, 2008 5:06 pm
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Josiah Miller
josiahthemes...
Dec 29, 2008 1:28 am
This has been a great discussion so far of The Development (almost turning into a group reading? hehe). Anyways, I can see a plethora of reasons why not to...
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kris_majer
Dec 29, 2008 11:24 am
... Yes, one of the narrators quotes Flaubert - I think - who wanted to write a novel about nothing. Which character this is I have a hard time remembering for...
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bbreynolds@...
edx_edl
Jan 4, 2009 10:04 pm
In a message dated 6/7/2008 4:59:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, johnbarth@yahoogroups.com writes: 1a. Re: Barth mention in review of new Rushdie Posted by:...
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william.street42
william.stre...
Jan 9, 2009 1:49 pm
I certainly enjoyed The Development, and I had read most of the stories preiously, when they were published in various literary magazines. The way in which the...
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Josiah Miller
josiahthemes...
Jan 9, 2009 2:26 pm
William, I do believe you are right in saying:Â "I am not a fan of the idea that there are "two Barths"--one who wrote The Sot Weed Factor and Giles Goat Boy,...
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Mark Brawner
markbrawner
Jan 14, 2009 6:49 pm
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 5:49 AM, william.street42 ... I also had read two or three of them before (from Subtropics and another organ that escapes me). Oh, and...
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Mark Brawner
markbrawner
Jan 14, 2009 6:55 pm
... Hi Kris. Hey, say more about that if you would -- I didn't get that from my reading. ... See I like that sort of thing, inasmuch as I Want to Know What ...
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Mark Brawner
markbrawner
Jan 14, 2009 6:57 pm
... I cried a little....
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Mark Brawner
markbrawner
Jan 14, 2009 7:03 pm
... Well, I'm doing a crappy job of cutting and pasting (and reading, for that matter). I suppose you meant this, which is a nice observation: "...providing...
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Mark Brawner
markbrawner
Jan 16, 2009 5:51 pm
Brief little bit from late last year that I stumbled across today ... What piece of art changed your life? How did it affect you? ...
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Mal McCormack
malmc_y
Jan 17, 2009 6:19 pm
... http://www.baltimoremagazine.net/allthepiecesmatter/index.php/2008/10/life-changing-art-john-barth/ ... Wow! He splits the infinitive in the second-last...
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bbreynolds@...
edx_edl
Jan 18, 2009 6:39 pm
1a. Re: Barth on life-changing art Posted by: "Mal McCormack" malmc_y@... malmc_y Date: Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:19 am ((PST)) ... ...