Interesting link (a complete book!): The Beloved Disciple: His Name and His Story by Vernard Eller http://www.hccentral.com/eller8/index.html Quote: "I am not...
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon@...
Sep 5, 2000 6:23 pm
... From: "Wieland Willker" <willker@...> To: "john-Lit"; <johannine_literature@egroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 8:37 AM Subject:...
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Mark Goodacre
M.S.Goodacre@...
Sep 5, 2000 7:45 pm
... Many thanks for the link. Another new on-line resource of interest is: http://www.lectio.unibe.ch/00_1/m-forum.htm Esther A. de Boer, "Mary Magdalene and...
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Kevin O'Brien
symeon@...
Sep 6, 2000 11:40 am
If I may enter the quest for the B.D.'s identity. About sixteen years ago, I had this brief interchange with a world renowned scholar after he perused my...
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Peter Hofrichter
Peter.Hofrichter@...
Sep 6, 2000 2:41 pm
At the origin of the figure of the beloved disciple stands Mary of Magdala. She must have been originally the only person standing under the cross and Jesus...
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Horace Jeffery Hodges
jefferyhodges@...
Sep 10, 2000 6:32 am
... satisfaction. John 1:1c states: kai theos an ho logos This is normally translated as: "and the Word was God" Why? Before jumping to answer, let me explain...
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Francis Moloney
moloney@...
Sep 10, 2000 1:14 pm
Jeffery, In my undertanding of it, you must take that affirmation of v. 1c in the light of vv 1 and 1b. There is a conscious and careful distinction kept ...
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Maluflen@...
Sep 10, 2000 1:44 pm
In a message dated 9/10/2000 9:15:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, moloney@... writes: << This distinction is what has determined the placing of theos (the ...
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Paul Schmehl
baldeagl@...
Sep 10, 2000 5:30 pm
... From: <Maluflen@...> To: <johannine_literature@egroups.com> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [John_Lit] A Grammatico-theological...
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Antonio Jerez
antonio.jerez@...
Sep 10, 2000 6:56 pm
... This is an interesting topic. I recall having a discussion with Prof. Rene´ Kieffer here in Sweden a few months ago about the way the author of GJohn may...
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Horace Jeffery Hodges
jefferyhodges@...
Sep 10, 2000 11:42 pm
I'm afraid that the focus of my question has been missed. Perhaps I was not clear enough. Let me re-ask it. Why is kai theos an ho logos translated as "and the...
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Maluflen@...
Sep 11, 2000 1:10 am
In a message dated 9/10/2000 7:44:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jefferyhodges@... writes: << I'm afraid that the focus of my question has been missed....
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Maluflen@...
Sep 11, 2000 1:38 am
In a message dated 9/10/2000 2:57:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, antonio.jerez@... writes: << This is an interesting topic. I recall having a...
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Paul Schmehl
baldeagl@...
Sep 11, 2000 4:16 am
... From: <Maluflen@...> To: <johannine_literature@egroups.com> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [John_Lit] A Grammatico-theological...
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Maluflen@...
Sep 11, 2000 1:03 pm
In a message dated 9/11/2000 12:17:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, baldeagl@... writes: [Leonard] ... God"), as > opposed to the second translation is...
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Horace Jeffery Hodges
jefferyhodges@...
Sep 11, 2000 1:28 pm
This response from Paul gets more directly at my ... Thank you Paul, for that explanation. This is interesting to me if somewhat disconcerting. I would have...
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Frank Glenn
fcg3@...
Sep 11, 2000 4:32 pm
... Boy, do I agree with this. ... Boy, do I _dis_agree with this. I would like to believe it with all my heart, but, unless we hire "little green folks from...
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Felix Just, S.J.
fjust@...
Sep 11, 2000 6:10 pm
... Although I agree with others that the NEB rendering is a bit cumbersome here, there IS good GRAMMATICAL reason for preferring it! The root of the problem ...
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Felix Just, S.J.
fjust@...
Sep 11, 2000 6:16 pm
[Oops - my last message accidentally got sent before it was complete! Here's the full thing, so you can ignore the last one.] ... Although I agree with others...
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Stephen C. Carlson
scarlson@...
Sep 12, 2000 12:57 am
Another passage in John that I find relevant to this discussion is John 8:54 hOTI QEOS hHMWN ESTIN. Like 1:1 an anarthrous QEOS is found before the copula...
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Paul Schmehl
baldeagl@...
Sep 12, 2000 1:30 am
... From: "Horace Jeffery Hodges" <jefferyhodges@...> To: <johannine_literature@egroups.com> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 8:26 AM Subject: Re:...
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Paul Schmehl
baldeagl@...
Sep 12, 2000 1:42 am
... From: <Maluflen@...> To: <johannine_literature@egroups.com> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [John_Lit] A Grammatico-theological...
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Paul Schmehl
baldeagl@...
Sep 12, 2000 1:50 am
... From: "Frank Glenn" <fcg3@...> To: <johannine_literature@egroups.com> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [John_Lit] A...
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Horace Jeffery Hodges
jefferyhodges@...
Sep 12, 2000 2:19 am
Thanks, Paul, for the grammatical clarifications. Now, on to other points. ... I suppose that I am more Western here, in the sense that you present it....
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Horace Jeffery Hodges
jefferyhodges@...
Sep 12, 2000 2:24 am
Paul wrote: "I'm glad you pointed this out, because I appear to have confused Horace on that point." Please, call me "Jeff" or "Jeffery". I'm stuck with ...
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Pete Phillips
p.m.phillips@...
Sep 12, 2000 7:35 am
I've been following this thread over the last couple of days and have become increasingly perplexed by it. Has anybody read the secondary material on all this...
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ProfRam@...
Sep 12, 2000 11:24 am
Isn't there an analogy between "the Word was God" and a number of expressions in which "God" is the subject and something else the predicate, such as "God is...
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Maluflen@...
Sep 12, 2000 12:04 pm
In a message dated 9/11/2000 9:43:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, baldeagl@... writes: << I don't believe John has a theology. I think that is an...
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Horace Jeffery Hodges
jefferyhodges@...
Sep 12, 2000 2:40 pm
... No, I haven't read all of those scholars on this grammatical rule -- that's why I was asking about the grammatical reason. Thanks for the references -- but...
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Pete Phillips
p.m.phillips@...
Sep 12, 2000 3:24 pm
Try these references for starters: E.C. Colwell, "A definite rule for the use of the article in the Greek New Testament", Journal for Biblical Literature 52,...
