... there ... Mike, Even allegorical readings would seem to require words to have primary vs secondary and even tertiary meanings. John, by using the phrase...
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... From: "David Trapero" <Dtrap303@...> To: <johannine_literature@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 10:51 AM Subject: [John_Lit] Estrada...
Working my way through various remarks on day-names back to an evaluation of J.A.T. Robinson's commments ... ... I don't know what's "linguistically normal",...
A Happy Christmas to one and all. You may understand this allegorically, if you wish, but I'm not at all sure what the "inner meaning" would be :-) Best Wishes...
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Dec 24, 2003 5:15 pm
In a message dated 12/23/2003 9:56:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, ... I don't think Frank's statement is really incompatible with this point of view. You state...
What I would like to present is a brief "commentary"/synopsis of my paper on John 2:1-11 so that my interpretation can be evaluated after seeing the whole...
Reference query: Has anyone published either articles or a monograph discussing the use of deictic markers and verbal aspect in the Fourth Gospel? I'm...
In response to David Trapero's quotation from Robinson's *The Priority of ... Ordinal names for weekdays are linguistically normal. It's our set of god-days...
... referred to, then? Dheftera, Triti, Tetarti, Pempti, Paraskevi, Savvato, Kiriaki. Sunday is considered the last day. Ya sas i pallikari. Martin Edwards BA...
... reverse ... John 3:31-36 has the marks of being (and is viewed by many as) an editorial insertion, attached to the Baptist's preceeding statment which ends...
... Modern Greek has no names for days of the week? How are they referred to, then? Are there compound words constituting de facto names, like "firstday";, or...
... One possibility is that it is historically accurate. The following quote from John A.T. Robinson's "The Priority of John" deserves careful consideration...
... is that ... was') (Exod. ... of God, ... wisdom ... is ... his own ... heaven' ... nature ... be tuaght ... to eat' ... identifies the ... being the ... ...
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Dec 22, 2003 10:53 pm
... From: "Bob Schacht" <bobschacht@...> To: <johannine_literature@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [John_Lit]...
... From my point of view, FWIW: 1. GJn uses OINOS (wine) only in connection with the Cana miracle. Furthermore, the banquet-master refers to the wine produced...
... Frank, I have a similar problem with your interpretation that I have with Matthew's: Yes, John 2:1-11 *can* be viewed as an allegorical narrative, but in...
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... From: "Matthew Estrada" <matt_estrada@...> To: <johannine_literature@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [John_Lit]...
I seem to have gotten carried away last night. In the cold light of morning, those six stone waterpots again look like six disciples to me, the "two or three...
geomelick@... wrote: Matthew: Welcome to the club. I started working on my hypothesis about Gospel origins in 1963. In 1970 I submitted it as a thesis to...
Matthew- I think that folks can tell from your latest responses to Bob what was evident to me from your paper - namely, that you're a person who's widely-read...
... Matthew, In two very long "responses," you seem to be using the strategy employed by the fictional Hiawatha in a parody of Longfellow's poem, written by a ...
"Jeffrey B. Gibson" <jgibson000@...> wrote: More importantly, even if we could agree that John writes allegory, the question is whether MattE's sense...
Bob Schacht <bobschacht@...> wrote: Matthew, First, I am not an expert in this area. However, in my cursory reading of your arguments so far, I have...
... Bob responded: Matthew, First, I am not an expert in this area. However, in my cursory reading of your arguments so far, I have not seen much by way of...
... Isn't that something like what John 20:24-28 is about? and Luke with Jesus eating fish after the resurrection? The point being that the resurrection story ...
... For all you've done, it seems to me is to agree with Bob that there **was** such a thing as allegorical writing in the ancient world (as opposed to...
Matthew: Welcome to the club. I started working on my hypothesis about Gospel origins in 1963. In 1970 I submitted it as a thesis to New York University and ...
... Mile, This hardly resolves the question or removes the force of Bob's claim. In fact it actually emphasizes that Bob is on the right track. For all you've...
... Sounds a bit pedantic, eh Bob? ("At the conclusion of this class, the student should know (and demonstrate knowledge of) X.") But anyway, isn't this apples...
... Matthew, First, I am not an expert in this area. However, in my cursory reading of your arguments so far, I have not seen much by way of reference to the ...
