... From: "John Lupia" <jlupia2@...> To: <johannine_literature@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [John_Lit]...
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John Lupia
jlupia2
Jul 4, 2002 8:51 pm
Happy hoiday to all USA list mebers. Thanks to all for keeping the fireworks in our local city parks and off the list. Best of luck to three of our members...
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Jeffrey B. Gibson
jgibson000
Jul 5, 2002 1:10 am
... Funny. I could have sworn I asked for the Persian word in the Persian DT that you claim means master of the house. Hold on a moment and let me check.... . ...
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John Lupia
jlupia2
Jul 5, 2002 1:46 am
Dear Jeffrey: Most of what you cited is post NT era authors and literature. The meager list you provided is largely not applicable to the NT philological...
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John Lupia
jlupia2
Jul 5, 2002 1:58 am
The KERAMIWN equalling 6 gallons at two-thirds of a Greek amphora better known as the METRHTHS was one and one-half the size of the Roman amphora is equal to ...
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Kevin Anderson
forks@...
Jul 5, 2002 2:34 am
Yuri Kuchinsky wrote: The number of jars has never been an issue. It's their size that has been an issue, because a more realistic size of the jugs means a...
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Jeffrey B. Gibson
jgibson000
Jul 5, 2002 3:51 am
... Does not a METRHTHS mean a "measurer";? In any case, the issue was Yuri's claim, that METRON meant "amphora" and that evidence for this claim could be found...
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Jeffrey B. Gibson
jgibson000
Jul 5, 2002 4:53 am
... If that was only what I was doing, I agree. But it is a sound principle in trying to gain a sense of how a word was/might have been used in a certain ...
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Mary Coloe
coloepbvm
Jul 5, 2002 8:56 am
I join your sentiments John and hope to meet other list members at this meeting. In Australia Frank spells his name with an '0' as in Moloney but perhaps the...
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Yuri Kuchinsky
yuku
Jul 5, 2002 6:00 pm
Greetings, I would like to correct some mistakes I've made in my analysis of Jn 2:1-12. First of all, I was mistaken in saying that "metron" is a very large ...
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Jeffrey B. Gibson
jgibson000
Jul 5, 2002 7:12 pm
... In other words, the OL and the Vulgate are -- if not simply reproducing Greek John -- saying **the exact same thing as Greek John does** with respect to ...
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon_2000
Jul 5, 2002 7:41 pm
... From: "Yuri Kuchinsky" <yuku@...> To: "John Lit-L" <johannine_literature@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 1:00 PM Subject: [John_Lit]...
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John E Staton
johnestaton
Jul 6, 2002 6:46 pm
Dear All, Does anyone else, like me, find this discussion a great cure for insomnia. Haven't all the arguments been aired? Can we move on? Best Wishes JOHN E...
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michael Hardin
michael1517
Jul 6, 2002 8:25 pm
Hear, Hear. I was wondering if Johannine 'scholars' had anything else to discuss.... Michael E. Hardin Floral Park, New York michael@... ... ...
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Larry Swain
theswain1
Jul 8, 2002 12:52 am
Apologies to those not suffering insomnia: ... Actually, Haenchen is referring to the word METRHTAS appearing in John 2:6, not to "metron", though certainly...
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Horace Jeffery Hodges
jefferyhodges@...
Jul 8, 2002 1:50 am
... I've found none of this discussion soporific. While not exactly enthralling -- save for occasional polemics -- most of the posts have been highly ...
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Jeffrey B. Gibson
jgibson000
Jul 8, 2002 3:04 am
One of the supposed linchpins of Yuri's argument is that in the PGH the "jars" which hold the water which Jesus changes into wine are "smaller" in size that ...
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Yuri Kuchinsky
yuku
Jul 8, 2002 3:24 pm
... No, I don't know any Persian. ... Actually, as I've found out, Ephraim doesn't mention any ARXITRIKLINOS. This whole verse is lacking in his Commentary....
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon_2000
Jul 8, 2002 4:06 pm
John-L is no longer to be used as a forum for the promotion of the PGH nor the "Magdalene Gospel" as its unrecognized alias. This thread is officially ended. ...
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Yuri Kuchinsky
yuku
Jul 8, 2002 4:07 pm
... No, Plooij noted Zacharias' quotes correctly, and I reported accurately what he said. You've missed the discussion in DE CONCORDIA EVANGELISTARUM, 170B,...
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Jeffrey B. Gibson
jgibson000
Jul 8, 2002 4:29 pm
... Interesting. And yet you previously claimed that you did! Note message # 2622 where, in response to my note "Since you don't read Arabic, Dutch, Latin,...
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michael Hardin
michael1517
Jul 9, 2002 2:27 am
For some time now I have been studying the usage of words with 'double meanings' in 4G. I am curious to know if others have also found the 'author's' use of ...
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Larry Swain
theswain1
Jul 9, 2002 6:09 pm
... Can't have missed it Yuri, it is where I cited Zacharias above. Besides, I wonder if you've read ol' Zach. He ends column 170A stating Tres metretas sunt...
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Larry Swain
theswain1
Jul 9, 2002 6:18 pm
... I have to apologize to Jack in particular and list members in general for violating the closure of the thread. I made the silly mistake of not reading all...
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon_2000
Jul 9, 2002 7:39 pm
... From: "Larry Swain" <theswain@...> To: <johannine_literature@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [John_Lit]...
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Rick Hubbard
rickhubbardus
Jul 9, 2002 8:13 pm
[Michael Wrote:] For some time now I have been studying the usage of words with 'double meanings' in 4G. <snip> Ah yes, this jogs my mind to recollect that I...
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Mirjam und Ruben Zimm...
ruben68de
Jul 10, 2002 8:47 am
Dear Michael, I´m very interested in your studies concerning the usage of words with double meanings in the FG. For some time I´m trying to come to grips...
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Pete Phillips
petermphillips
Jul 10, 2002 9:04 am
A great post - I must have a look at these recent monographs since I am just completing my PhD thesis on ambiguity, intertextuality and the reader in the ...
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Maluflen@...
Jul 10, 2002 11:54 am
In a message dated 7/10/2002 2:05:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ... The only problem I see here is that it may have more than two meanings. In fact, what we...
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Kevin Anderson
forks@...
Jul 10, 2002 5:10 pm
Pete Phillips wrote: "Just a comment on language - double meaning is the wrong term to use. It suggests that a Greek word has two meanings." I agree. I think...
