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Darrell
dldavis007
Feb 11, 2008 6:30 am
I'm having a hard time understanding the details of changes to the Generation Doctrine. Apparently there was recently some new light shed on this subject. It...
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donn reese
tlkreese
Feb 11, 2008 1:10 pm
Hi Darrell, I'll give a brief overview. Prior to 1995 the prevailing view that was published was that the 'Generation' who would see Christ's invisible...
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Jim
warrior_of_t...
Feb 12, 2008 2:48 am
Could it have been that the meaning of "Generation" was changed because of how old the "generation" was getting under the previous definition? ... the...
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donn reese
tlkreese
Feb 12, 2008 3:09 am
Hi Jim, Yes, that is a lot of people's observation. There just aren't that many adults alive from 1914. Donn ... From: Jim <warrior_of_the_sword@...> ...
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Darrell
dldavis007
Feb 13, 2008 3:29 am
Thanks Donn. Darrell ... the 'Generation' who would see Christ's invisible presence begin in 1914 would be alive in some quantity to see Armageddon. That...
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alanna garth
pokealanna
Feb 13, 2008 8:57 pm
It is simply a false prophecy- it was previously touted as the Creator's promise. So, their statement leaves two choices- they were wrong or the creator ...
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Russ
ditchbilly
Feb 13, 2008 9:15 pm
Alanna,I see you still haven't bothered to learn the difference between prophecy and interpretation. alanna garth <pokealanna@...> wrote: It is...
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alanna garth
pokealanna
Feb 14, 2008 12:47 pm
fine line there. You will probably say that they misinterpreted God's prophecy....perhaps. But at the same time it seems they attributed a saying to God that...
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Russ
ditchbilly
Feb 14, 2008 3:08 pm
No fine line at all really.I think the difinitions are clear and well defined.Wrongly interpreting a prophecy already given,like scripture,would simply be...
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alanna garth
pokealanna
Feb 14, 2008 5:30 pm
ok, point taken Russ as far as my never offering any insight...but simply commenting on a JW beleif. No, no verse is thrown in for no reason...so what do I ...
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Teresa
eternity39us
Feb 16, 2008 4:16 pm
The funny thing about all of it Alanna, why attack any of its membbers if they do not agree on a teaching because they are going to change it anyway. So do the...
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Steve Klemetti
sklemetti
Feb 19, 2008 6:03 pm
What brings that question on? Is it because you believe that every Jehovah's Witness should focus on and be a follower of the Watchtower like you are? You see,...
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Steve Klemetti
sklemetti
Feb 19, 2008 6:05 pm
... All irrelevant. I have concluded that we don't know what he was talking about and it does not matter because it does not affect what we do. IT only ...
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Steve Klemetti
sklemetti
Feb 19, 2008 6:07 pm
That is correct. the old definition did not pan out....
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alanna garth
pokealanna
Feb 19, 2008 6:11 pm
Steve, I agree with you! It is speaking of what Jesus will do. You are 100% right. So...would it not follow that is is wrong for the org to have presented as...
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alanna garth
pokealanna
Feb 19, 2008 6:13 pm
ok...so they did redefine generation. We both agree there. On what basis can they then require its members...attacking the characters of those who do not ...
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alanna garth
pokealanna
Feb 19, 2008 6:15 pm
Steve, what they wrote 100 yrs ago DOES NOT affect what they communicate today...corect. But, according to official claims of the WT the International Bible...
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Steve Klemetti
sklemetti
Feb 19, 2008 11:30 pm
... No, they presented what they knew and what they understood to be what Jesus meant. It was not presented as truth but what is understanding. Of course the...
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Steve Klemetti
sklemetti
Feb 19, 2008 11:45 pm
... No one is required to accept any definition of generation that Jesus referred. No one is required to comment at a meeting or give a particular talk. The...
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Steve Klemetti
sklemetti
Feb 20, 2008 12:00 am
... To correct your statement, from the end of the gentile times in 1914 Jesus spent 3.5 years cleansing the heavens of Satan and the demons. He also cleansed...
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alanna garth
pokealanna
Feb 20, 2008 1:36 pm
Steve The vs you are using in 1 Cor about speaking in agreement and not being divided is not at all talking about agreement (be it voicing or mental) of...
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alanna garth
pokealanna
Feb 20, 2008 1:38 pm
Steve, You did not agree with the 1914 generation when it was taught as such? Did you speak of this to anyone? If you did I am quite surprised you were not ...
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alanna garth
pokealanna
Feb 20, 2008 1:44 pm
Steve, You have your belief on the org..I have mine. I will choose to respect you there. I do disagree that the WT is God's org but I will respect your...
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Jim
warrior_of_t...
Feb 20, 2008 5:25 pm
... You mean the obvious reason why I asked wasn't so obvious? ... on ... Let's see, I do not attend a Kingdom Hall. I use a Bible version that is not the NWT...
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Jim
warrior_of_t...
Feb 20, 2008 5:27 pm
Why did it not pan out? Was that "generation" getting too old and was it looking like a change was needed to save face? Only asking because that is how I see...
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alanna garth
pokealanna
Feb 20, 2008 5:41 pm
Steve, contrary to what you indicated to me earlier PRIOR TO NOV 1995 IF A JW IN ANY WAY INDICATED THAT HE/SHE DID NOT BELEIVE THAT THE WTS WAS CORRECT IN...
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Jim
warrior_of_t...
Feb 20, 2008 9:01 pm
Can we go easy with the caps please Alanna? Thanks! ... ______________________________________________________________________ ... ...
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Jim
warrior_of_t...
Feb 20, 2008 9:05 pm
... the ... shed ... do. ... It matters if the changes in the definition were not because of "new understanding" but because of the age of the current group...
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Steve Klemetti
sklemetti
Feb 21, 2008 2:49 am
What do you think that a sect is? It is divisions because of following different doctrines and procedures. ... ...
