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RE: [j4x-owners-group] Tides Marine Track and Slide

Thanks, all the information is useful..

 

Conrad

 


From: j4x-owners-group@yahoogroups.com [mailto:j4x-owners-group@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of William Stellin
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Subject: Re: [j4x-owners-group] Tides Marine Track and Slide

 

 

The way we reef it would be pretty hard to lose the stack.  When underway, we only reef from a fully hoisted main.  The halyard is under control on a winch and clutch and frankly there has never been a time when even with a second reef in, that there was not enough room under the tack for the loose slides.  If we needed more room, it is very easy to open the gate, drop out two or three slides, close the gate, and finish tensioning the halyard.

The nice thing about the Antal slides is that we can easily reef off the wind, lessening the flogging of the sail which would occur when reefing up wind.

Bill

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On Feb 8, 2012, at 8:24 AM, "Robert Thuss" <Robert.Thuss@...> wrote:

 

I had the Tides Marine system on my C&C 110 and have the Antal system on my J/42 Jade. Both work well. And on both I WOULD NEVER pull the pin to drop cars out of the bottom to reef! With wind and rough seas you would probably lose the whole stack, and there goes your main downwind. Webbing ring is the classic method and soft shackle is the up-to-date solution that resists chafe even better. Robert

On Feb 7, 2012, at 3:55 PM, "Conrad Deeter" <cdsail@...> wrote:

 

Now that you both described as Antal I bet the one on my J42 is also because I have that pin at the bottom.  However when it is time to reef or shake-out a reef it may be pretty hard to pull the pin or put the slides back in.... I use a Cunningham and that is what I have used before but thought they may be a better option. 

 

Conrad

 


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Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:25 PM
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One other suggestion would be to contact Tides and see if the have a lower profile slide. Our Antal are 40mm which makes for a very manageable stack height even when the sail is fully down. I am pretty sure we only have 12 slides plus the headboard slider which is the equivalent of about 3-4 more.  You may have more slides than is necessary. Talk to your sailmaker about reducing the overall stack height. 

Bill


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On Feb 7, 2012, at 11:23 AM, "Conrad Deeter" <cdsail@...> wrote:

 

Do any of you use the Tides Marine Track and Slide system for your mainsail track.  It is made of ultra-high-molecular-weight polyethylene (UHMWP) or thermoplastic made by Tides Marine in Florida.  If you do how did you get the reefing point low enough to hook onto the reefing cringles since the slides for this setup cause the sail to stack higher.   I love the track system because it makes it so easy to hoist and drop the main but it is really difficult to get low enough for a second reef.

 

Thanks,

 

Conrad

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Do any of you use the Tides Marine Track and Slide system for your mainsail track. It is made of ultra-high-molecular-weight polyethylene (UHMWP) or ...
Conrad Deeter
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Feb 7, 2012
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I use an Antal system, but the concept is similar. My reef cringles have a piece of webbing running through them, with rings sewn on to the end. To put in a...
Thomas Keffer
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Feb 7, 2012
4:38 pm

good idea... I could create a soft schackle with a ring and leave it in the second reef... that works   Thanks,   conrad  ________________________________ ...
Con & Deb Deeter
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Feb 7, 2012
5:55 pm

I have the same system as Tom's. There should be a gate near the bottom of the track. You probably will have to open it and let a couple of sail slides drop...
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Feb 7, 2012
6:14 pm

Bill your idea of leading a reefing line back to the cockpit is intriguing. Assume you tie a line to the reefing Tack ring, lead it down to a turning block...
Anthony M Iacono
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Feb 7, 2012
6:38 pm

The problem with leading the tack line for the 2nd reef to the cockpit is the deck organizers. They only have 3 sheaves each, and they are all in use. Plus,...
Thomas Keffer
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Feb 7, 2012
6:45 pm

Get it. Speaking of spinnaker. How do you handle your guy. I find I must really run it to a primary winch to handle the loads involved. Tony From: Thomas...
Anthony M Iacono
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Feb 7, 2012
6:57 pm

I added new organizers on the deck by stacking another four sheves organizer on top of the ones that were there. This gives room for eight lines on each side....
William Stellin
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Feb 7, 2012
7:40 pm

Bill, these are great suggestions. Do you have some photos of the clutch setup under the dodger? And/or of where you put the clutch on the mast? -tk...
Thomas Keffer
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Feb 7, 2012
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I doubt if I have any here at home. The one on the mast is on the port side because that is the side the halyard exits and as I said about waist height. I...
William Stellin
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Feb 7, 2012
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One other suggestion would be to contact Tides and see if the have a lower profile slide. Our Antal are 40mm which makes for a very manageable stack height...
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Feb 7, 2012
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Now that you both described as Antal I bet the one on my J42 is also because I have that pin at the bottom. However when it is time to reef or shake-out a...
Conrad Deeter
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Feb 7, 2012
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Antal systems are made of aluminum and the gate is a sliding device with a knurled knob that you back off to allow the gate to be opened. Except for the...
William Stellin
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Feb 7, 2012
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No, none that you said it is aluminum then mine is the Tides Marine Track but it also has the pin at the bottom. Thanks, Conrad _____ From:...
Conrad Deeter
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Feb 7, 2012
10:43 pm

I had the Tides Marine system on my C&C 110 and have the Antal system on my J/42 Jade. Both work well. And on both I WOULD NEVER pull the pin to drop cars out...
Robert Thuss
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Feb 8, 2012
1:24 pm

The way we reef it would be pretty hard to lose the stack. When underway, we only reef from a fully hoisted main. The halyard is under control on a winch and...
William Stellin
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Feb 8, 2012
1:58 pm

Thanks, all the information is useful.. Conrad _____ From: j4x-owners-group@yahoogroups.com [mailto:j4x-owners-group@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of William...
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