RE: [j4x-owners-group] Tides Marine Track and Slide
Thanks, all the information is useful..
Conrad
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Tides Marine Track and Slide
The way we reef it would be pretty hard to lose the stack. When
underway, we only reef from a fully hoisted main. The halyard is under
control on a winch and clutch and frankly there has never been a time when even
with a second reef in, that there was not enough room under the tack for the
loose slides. If we needed more room, it is very easy to open the gate,
drop out two or three slides, close the gate, and finish tensioning the
halyard.
The nice thing about the Antal slides is that we can easily reef off
the wind, lessening the flogging of the sail which would occur when reefing up
wind.
Bill
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On Feb 8, 2012, at 8:24 AM, "Robert Thuss" <Robert.Thuss@...> wrote:
I had the Tides Marine
system on my C&C 110 and have the Antal system on my J/42 Jade. Both work
well. And on both I WOULD NEVER pull the pin to drop cars out of the bottom to
reef! With wind and rough seas you would probably lose the whole stack, and
there goes your main downwind. Webbing ring is the classic method and soft
shackle is the up-to-date solution that resists chafe even better. Robert
On Feb 7, 2012, at 3:55 PM, "Conrad Deeter" <cdsail@...> wrote:
Now that you both described as Antal I bet the one on my J42 is
also because I have that pin at the bottom. However when it is time to
reef or shake-out a reef it may be pretty hard to pull the pin or put the
slides back in.... I use a Cunningham and that is what I have used before but
thought they may be a better option.
One other
suggestion would be to contact Tides and see if the have a lower profile slide.
Our Antal are 40mm which makes for a very manageable stack height even when the
sail is fully down. I am pretty sure we only have 12 slides plus the headboard
slider which is the equivalent of about 3-4 more. You may have more
slides than is necessary. Talk to your sailmaker about reducing the overall
stack height.
Bill
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On Feb 7, 2012, at 11:23 AM, "Conrad Deeter" <cdsail@...> wrote:
Do any of you use
the Tides Marine Track and Slide system for your mainsail track. It is
made of ultra-high-molecular-weight
polyethylene (UHMWP) or thermoplastic made by Tides Marine in Florida.
If you do how did you get the reefing point low enough to hook onto the reefing
cringles since the slides for this setup cause the sail to stack higher.
I love the track system because it makes it so easy to hoist and drop the
main but it is really difficult to get low enough for a second reef.
Thanks,
Conrad
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Robert Thuss
Robert.Thuss@...
Feb 8, 2012 1:24 pm
The way we reef it would be pretty hard to lose the stack. When underway, we only reef from a fully hoisted main. The halyard is under control on a winch and...
Thanks, all the information is useful.. Conrad _____ From: j4x-owners-group@yahoogroups.com [mailto:j4x-owners-group@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of William...