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Greetings from Houston - Well, it's that time again-time for an announcement about a new Daniel Quinn Book. This one, called WORK, WORK, WORK, is a children's...
Just thought maybe one pr two of you might be interested in the discussion going on at: http://qlipoth.blogspot.com/2006/10/impermanence-of-limitlessness.html ...
Lisa wrote: I think it makes less and less sense to think of the globe as inhabited by separate and independent nation states. Economic crisis in the US will...
Welcome to the board Lua! I would like to hear more about the bale cabin. Did you build it yourself? You wrote that you have some solar power, are you...
Charu and Lisa I was at a "Spirit and Health" Expo this weekend, where "poverty consciousness" seemed to be the name of the game. These people were all ...
I have been checking this list daily for new messages and have gone for many days at a time without seeing anything. Then, today, I opened it up and there's a...
... for ... Thank you, Charu. I started the cabin myself, built the foundation completely alone and then had some help putting up straw bales, my son put the...
Well whatever was wrong is obviously fixed now. Rick, I don't have spambots because my messages aren't going into my mailbox - I check them on the yahoo site....
I think Yahoo calls it the Bulk Mail folder. It's below Inbox and Outbox. For every message that makes it to my Inbox, ten or twenty go to Bulk. Take care, ...
I'd like to talk about Beyond Civilization and the only potential solution being limited to "occupational tribes." It is my feeling that he wanted to offer...
... Okay.. well to start with Quinn didn't limit the solution to occupational tribes, he offered that suggestion up as one possible thing we could do right now...
... Tribes, according to Quinn, are essentially groups of people making a living together, mutually dependent for survival. He is simply suggesting a...
... Or, in the immortal words of The Holeyman, "How can we expect to stop them [Mother Culture] by emulating those that have been destroyed?" Good question!...
... For those not in the know, Joseph, the holeyman, wrote frequently to an older, now defunct, mailing list. Joseph saw the problem different than Quinn did....
I don't feel you ought to speak for either Quinn or everyone else on the list, Stephen. Quite a number of today's list members feel "the sooner the collapse ...
... start the ... Ok, I didn't mean he limited tribes as in there is no other way - rather that he didn't offer any other way in the book. ... mind ... ...
... Fair enough. This is my understanding of Quinn's approach from what he has written. I would rather not preface everything I say with "I believe" and "From...
Hi Stephen Well said, like what Derrick Jensen says about bringing down civilisation, "we need it all, do what you love". Moving away from dualism, dicchotomy...
... OK. That seems clearer. I guess by a new cultural reality, I had in mind more of an overall vision or perspective rather than a set of principles/goals....
Hi Stephen Yp, you're onto it! I really appreciate the wonderful work done by both authors and I think Derrick's approach of "we need it all" is very...
... Well - the taker culture is still in that free fall heading for the crash. It might be possible to avoid the whole problem by going into obscurity for...
... that ... The Holeyman's statement about "stopping them" came at a time when the discussion centered upon how to avoid the Crash of the Taker Thunderbolt,...