Thank you Howard for your response. I appreciate that you've answered each of my questions. Honestly, I will have to read the post a couple of times before...
Thank you for responding Charles. Charles wrote: The "cultural heritage" is based on autonomy in the widest sense while still maintaining bonds necessary for...
In a message dated 5/31/2006 8:26:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, miltthomas@... writes: So what's wrong with reminding people that modern concerns such as ...
Charu- Thank you for responding Charles. Charles wrote: The "cultural heritage" is based on autonomy in the widest sense while still maintaining bonds...
Hello Charu - ... **Thank you. And thanks for being interested. ... **I wish I had a good answer for where you could see this in action. I know of groups in my...
BC's arguments are well-stated and I basically agree with them. Jared Diamond (GUNS, GERMS AND STEEL, COLLAPSE) also tends to blur the line between Leavers and...
BC: 1. OVERPOPULATION. In one sense, "overpopulation" has been a problem for homo sapiens since its emergence. If one defines overpopulation as the state...
I have looked into mainsteam press more than most, and put the degree of accuracy at about 20 percent. As mentioned, John Stauber and Sheldon Rampton (authors...
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I would like to suggest the work of David R. Hawkins here in understanding the effects of consciousness on outcomes in life: ...
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Thanks Howard, I'll have to look at it next week, I am travelling right now and wont get a lot of internet time. I was explaining Bohms dialogue today. I am...
If anyone in the group happens to be in Asheville NOrth Carolina this weekend, I would like to invite you to a book signing at Malaprops Bookstore, 7PM ...
I'm from the LA area and recently read Ishmael and am now reading Story of B. I'm involved in a Community Self-Sufficiency project that aligns very much with...
Charles wrote Thank you for opening to me (and I suppose us, though I do not speak for the others on the discussion board) by personalizing the perspective. I...
Thank you Bill!!! This is a great direction to take the topic! Bill wrote:> 1. OVERPOPULATION... The evidence indicates that, contra Quinn, "Leaver"...
My parents divorced when I was about 12 and each went their own way. By the time I was 16, my mother had become a "high priestess" in her coven and my father...
... How did you figure in the availability of food in your village game? Quinn says the availability of food limits population - not wolves, cave-ins or flash...
Stephen wrote: How did you figure in the availability of food in your village game? C*** Okay, keep in mind it's been a couple of years since I took that ...
Here's one of the better clarifications of the rat/cage discussion: http://blogs.salon.com/0002007/2004/02/06.html Please note that the first principle of the...
Thanks for the greater detail, Charu. Using the information about calories, pack rat nets and trash heaps and such, did the hypothetical village ever reach a...
... **This seems to be the core issue. Are humans capable of 'A Change in Understanding'? Or are we just rats that can't see the long-term consequences of our...
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What I've found when discussing this issue with people is that they are afraid. They know how to survive in this culture. They go to work, they get a...
... in Understanding'? Or are we just rats that can't see the long-term consequences of our behavior? To my understanding, this is what it's all about. What...
Stephen asked: Do you recall including the carrying capacity in your villager model? C*** Honestly I think that carrying capacity is the point that the ...
I'm Sorry Stephen, I didn't respond entirely. I really like what you said about predation. Stephen wrote: Prey species - in the absence of those checks and ...
Sorry Tom, I must have missed the years of harping you and Todd Settimo did. Food = humans Agriculture = more food = more humans. I understand it. But how do...
Cory's Question: Is anybody here involved in activities to actually put a more Leaver oriented community into your area? C*** Welcome to the board Cory! ...