that sounds like a very very good thing at least there are those who do the right thing without some bi partisan balogna or some self exalting actions for all...
Does anyone here know what Quinn believes vis a vis the model that animal populations that grow as more food is added eventually level out and stabilize? I'm...
... Animal populations, well all living populations really, follow a limits to growth model: they will grow until they encounter a limit to growth. Quinn...
... Quinn has stated he believes it would/could happen peacefully. I believe he concludes this by how other species react when approaching a limit to growth. A...
... rat vs. ... do not ... most ... Yeah, that was Todd Settimo and me about a decade ago. We've both come to see affirmation that the issue is indeed less...
Thanks to a friend, copies of two opening speeches -- by Jan Lundberg and Mike Ruppert -- at today's (October 5) "Petrocollapse" conference New York City. see...
STEPHEN FIGGINS wrote [04 Oct 2005 17:13:32]: "If we look to Italy and Japan for example, people there have somehow managed to reduce their fertility to the...
... Thanks for the insight from Italy, Aldo. This immigration issue sort of fits in my understanding of limits to growth. I would expect outsiders used to...
If reading the ISHMAEL books have changed the way you look at the world, you might want to go to this page: http://www.townofautumn.com/ishmael.htm Then click...
ishmael_discussion@ya...
Oct 9, 2005 11:31 am
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This text was borrowed from Cat's Place: But What Can I DO? and modified by aristotle334 of Northern California Friends of Ishmael: But What Can I DO? The...
ishmael_discussion@ya...
Oct 9, 2005 11:31 am
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... Can someone explain what this r-selection stuff is? It's been mentioned a few times, and I'm not sure I get it. Marcy...
... The r and K in r-selection and K-selection come from a numerical equation describing population dynamics. Basically r is the growth rate of a population...
human population will stabilize on its own, but at a level far lower than the current population. There's no pleasant way to reduce the human population by...
G.E.
il2a@...
Oct 11, 2005 5:06 pm
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Hi Iz-- ... Yes, assuming the same approximate level of resources as pre-agriculture, and that the humans are living as hunter-gatherers. Pretty complex...
... I don't know that Quinn shares your assessment. Has he indicated anywhere that he believes we must reduce human population by more than 90%? Perhaps he...
There are loads of hidden assumptions in this assertion. At one end of the scale, if one assumes that hunter-gatherer economics is the only viable model, than...
The earth is still the same size, it still has about the same amount of water, land, sunlight, and so on. the reousrces are indeed at approximately the same...
G.E.
il2a@...
Oct 11, 2005 8:07 pm
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For the final answer on what he thinks of it, ask him. However, I would imagine that he doesn't address is because it's kind of a downer for someone he's...
G.E.
il2a@...
Oct 11, 2005 8:30 pm
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... of water, land, sunlight, and so on. the reousrces are indeed at ... can not do so sustainably. It, along with all the other aspects of an ... possible, is...
... because the culture considers it "normal" to be married and have kids. And there's also the organized religion belief that we "should" - "be fruitful and...
HOWARD: "My concern seems to be the possibility of thousands or millions of humans needlessly suffering and dying. Not that I personally can do a whole lot to...
Hello Gregg-- ... Our civilization has significantly reduced species diversity, rendered much of the water unusable, degraded vast tracts of land so they are ...
... Aldo : As regards avoiding human sufferings, while I can't see any collective chance any more, I feel you *can* do wonders on an individual level right...
If you've already jumped out of the airplane, there's nothing you can do about it. Those 'root causes' were all made irreversible when you jumped. If you...
G.E.
il2a@...
Oct 12, 2005 4:51 pm
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... Me, too. I don't have children. ... You hit the nail on the head with that one. Marcy...
... deaths ... That sounds a lot like you're valuing human life more than any other life on the planet. Species evolve into existence and go instinct b/c they...
... Hasty generalization and fuzzy thinking. I'd pass on radiation poisoning myself, but there are few deaths more quick and less painful than a well-placed...
... can do about it. Those 'root causes' were all made irreversible when you jumped. **That's a resonable 'theory'. So let's go ahead and say the jump has ...
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