... I used the methods in the book a few years ago to eliminate a large portion of my debt. One of the more useful parts for me was the opportunity to reflect...
Hi Folks, Tryed my hand at 'changing minds' this morning by participating in a discussion about the book Celestine Prophecy that was happening on another list...
I think you did fine. I had friends in college that were "into" the Celestine Prophecy -never having much success at convincing them of the book's flaws....
Quinn talks about how our creation story - the story of the fall - was actually created by Leavers to explain the Takers' behavior. Maybe I'm not familiar...
Ok where do I start. I have been responsible for changing hundreds of minds in my own area with the help of DQ. But as most people well know I live in a city...
Next time: Promise to read the Book of Mormon if he will read Ishmael. Then make an appointment to meet again to discuss what you have both read. You can't...
ok, here are some comments.. from one who independently had arrived at essentially the same interpretation of the story of the fall (though i drew it as more...
G.E.
il2a@...
Apr 1, 2003 8:16 pm
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PLEASE do not give up!! know when to choose your battles, of course.. and how to go to work on any given opponent.. cult fanaticcs like mormons and others,...
G.E.
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Apr 1, 2003 8:37 pm
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'nother question... Quinn mentions that our way of life is much harder than tribal life as far as time spent working vs free time goes. I was wondering where I...
Hi Ann, Thanks for your post. ... Yes, I'd definitely agree. It's an expectation to always be DOING something. It's almost as if valuing doing _nothing_ for...
I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT! and it really pisses me off how people can be so closed minded, especialy when it comes to religious people. Now im...
... To me, the most important part of Quinnean philosophy is resignation to Process. Sure, we need to spread the word to people, but as Quinn says, Takers...
Josh Morris
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Apr 2, 2003 4:29 am
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I think what Quinn means is that back then they only had to work for there food and fo survival. We do the same but I think that it is more work for us...
to make a clearer point of what naomi said, i would point out that a large portion of human effort today goes to supporting the Machine that we have built,...
G.E.
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Apr 2, 2003 5:25 am
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Greetings, I have recently started a new Ishmael Discussion group in Dallas, TX. If you are in the area and wish to join, we have a yahoo group: ...
... Except for one little thing. Taker and Leaver do _not_ coexist. The very nature of the Taker system creates a life-or-death pressure to expand, and it will...
Lord Isildur
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Apr 2, 2003 4:14 pm
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... Except for one little thing. People just need to be shown something better. Again, Takers have to be allowed to have their way of life. To tell them they...
Josh Morris
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Apr 2, 2003 4:35 pm
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It is more than just vision and mentality. the vast majority of humans today, most likely you and me as well, are dependent on that Machine now. If they cease...
Lord Isildur
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Apr 2, 2003 4:48 pm
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Hi Scott, thank YOU! ... Taker type breaks whose only goal is to recharge your batteries to do more slave labor, and real free BEING, was brought up. Something...
For some writings AT LEAST as (if not more!!) life- and mind- changing as DQ, check out Masanobu Fukuoka. The One-Straw Revolution is his most well-known...
hey all! i'm jessicabessica and i've been a member of this group but i was away for awhile and now i'm back (just read a discussion thing and i'm really glad...
honestly, i'd advise you to not get sucked into the weird cult that is objectivism.. ive seen some smart people get drawn into it.. it is largely a mentality...
Lord Isildur
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Apr 3, 2003 4:10 am
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Hey Benjamin, Here's my take on your questions: <<<Quinn mentions that our way of life is much harder than tribal life as far as time spent working vs free...
They sing, dance, make love, sleep, draw pictures, paint, tell stories, play with children, decorate their bodies and clothes, play musical instruments (drums...
... stories, ... statues ... but I ... doing ... Hey Vennie, In the spirit of my Human Doings thread, I'd prefer to clarify "doing nothing", at least in the...
good points, and theyre more along the line of inquiry that _doesnt_ mire itself in definitions which all too often are held captive or imposed by the taker...
G.E.
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by the way, has anyone already assembled, or partly assembled, a 'war chest' of references to give to people when such facts are demanded or wanted? not so...
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