Just want to say, I am using my wife's yahoo name, since I don't have one for
myself. <br>My daughter alerted me to this club and I am looking forward to the
talks........<br>Carl Liberty

Hi Lance sorry for the delay on the picture but
I'm still not felling very will..... And I have had
some real troulbe with my computer, I found the pic
but need to get my computer running right...... TO
All The CLUB..... Happy Holidays be safe and warm
<br>Ellen

Let me know what kind of things you would like to
see on the site.<br>It also looks like I will be
getting help from Jason White (Al Greens grandson & Carol
Ladds son) as well. It will be good to have an Ioway
lending me his help.<br>For those of you who want to know
who I am, my name is Mike Ring and I live in Kansas
City. I already run a website called
kcnativecommunity.org in Kansas City for our Indian Community. I am
Mdewakanton Dakota + German + English + Dutch but I am
especially proud of my Dakota heritage. My only wish is to
see our people become a proud and powerfull people
again, this wish has become my lifes
mission.<br>Pidamaya Yedo,<br>Mike Ring

Hello everyone, I am working on a website for the
Ioway Nation of Kansas and Nebraska. I am in the design
process right now but I hope to have it finished by the
middle of January. (This does have to be approved by the
tribal council as well)

Wow, Vince, unfortunately membership is a matter
of tribal sovereignty. If you have talked to the
tribe yourself (the chairman is Louis Deroin) and can
get no further with it, then there is nothing you can
do. You can try legal routes but you would have to
find a lawyer, things would probably get ugly, and the
result would probably be the same as it is a matter for
tribal sovereignty. If the sticking point is your
mother, then that is where you will have to make the
effort. Sorry there are no other answers that I know of.

Hi all,<br><br>I am trying to become a member of
the Iowa tribe. I was born in Hiawatha, KS in 1978
and then adopted. I know that I am nearly 1/2 Iowa
Tribe. I would like to become part of the tribe, but am
having trouble. My biological mother will not sign the
papers so that I may become a member. It is very
important to me to become a member because once I am a
member I can receive a full tuition waiver at the
college I am looking to attend. If any of you have any
ideas or can offer any help, I would really appreciate
it.<br><br>Thank you,<br><br>Vince

Sorry I havn't be feeling well I have the Flu and it's kidding my butt, and so
when I get on my feet I'll send the Pictures. Keep warm, and well Causin. Love
El

I hope you are doing okay Ray. People can be
pretty hateful.<br><br>There are very few resources
designed specifically to teach the Ioway language. The
best so far is the little blue and tan books done by
Lila Wistrand-Robinson and Jimm Good Tracks in the
1970s. They are hard to come by but I will see if Jimm
has any.

Hi-<br><br>Usually the encampment is the third
weekend in September. People can camp either in RVs or in
tipis and tents. There are no hookups last I heard, so
you need to be self-contained for water and
electricity (generators). There are public flush toilets and
sinks, but no showers, and you can fill containers with
water. They also set up portapotties.

Brandi- Get the book "Iowa's Archaeological Past"
by Lynn Alex (U of Iowa Press). The ancestral
Ioway-Otoe culture is called "Oneota" by archaeologists. You
can check your favorite web search engine under
"Oneota." Also check
out:<br><a href=http://www.uiowa.edu/~osa/learn/prehistoric/oneota.htm
target=new>http://www.uiowa.edu/~osa/learn/prehistoric/oneota.htm</a><br><a
href=http://www.uiowa.edu/~anthro/oneota/
target=new>http://www.uiowa.edu/~anthro/oneota/</a><br><br>Ioway ancestral sites
are centered in Iowa but exist in
all the surrounding states: Wisconsin, Minnesota,
South Dakota, Kansas, Nebraska, Missouri, and Illinois.
If you are doing a general paper, the info above
should get you started. If you have specific questions I
will do my best. You know of course that our tribe did
not relocate in its entirety to the present
reservation in Kansas-Nebraska until 1836. For the previous
100 years they were mostly in Iowa and northern
Missouri. The O'Leary site on the rez in Nebraska may
represent a very early excursion of the Ioway or Otoe in
the area. The ancestors moved around a lot. There are
also historic Ioway archaeological sites on the rez,
such as along the zone between Highland and Iowa
Point. Let me know what you need.<br><br>Lance

Hi Ellen!<br><br>The other club is still going..
aren't you getting messages? Sure it would be cool to
see some old pics.. you can also post them here in
this club if you like.. same for everyone
else.<br><br>As far as Alaska goes, it got to 17 degrees
yesterday and more snow coming.. already have about a foot.

Glad to see the club is back. But what happen to
the other club? How's the Great North? It would be
nice to see some pictures of you all? Lance if you
would like to see some old powwow pic from the Ioway
powwow in the 1980's I have some? Keep up your the good
work. Your Causin El

i am thinking of coming to the encampment next
summer (if we can save enough to get there!) and need to
know what we'll need, i.e. camping supplies, is there
water, etc. if someone can fill me in i would appreciate
it. thanks.

Hi Brandi,<br>There are references to Ioway archeological sites in "The Ioway
Indians" by Martha Royce Blaine, from the University of Oklahoma
Press.<br>-Christine

Hi everyone. I am an Ioway tribal member in the
KS & NE tribe. I am involved in the tribe to a
certain extent, only b/c I am away at school so it is
hard to get down to every meeting, etc. I am very
interested in learning more information about the tribe. I
have plans to go on to law school, after I'm done w/
my undergrad work to become a Native American
attorney, and so I would love to do anything that would
help out my tribe. My grandmother, Ethil Liberty, used
to many things for the tribe, and I would love to
follow in her footsteps. I would also like to get to
know each of you that are Ioway. <br><br>I also have
another question. I am taking an archaeology class and
would like to do a paper on the Ioway. Are they any
archaeological sites, that any of you know of, that I could find
information on? I would greatly appreciate anything you can
find.<br><br>I look forward to talking to you<br>Brandi

This is the first message I am posting to this
club. I am an enrolled Ioway who has never seen the
rez. As far as I know any relatives I have there are
dead. The BIA assimilation program worked exceedingly
well on my father, so I know almost nothing of Ioway
language, customs, heritage. In face my father says I am
not a Native American!<br>I have read "The Ioway
Indians" by Martha Royce Blaine. I came away from that sad
and angry! Now I am plowing through the University of
Arizona's Indian Studies reading list, trying to learn what
I can about what it means to 'reclaim' my Native
American cultural heritage. <br>I attended powwows when
living in Oklahoma (now live in Oregon), but always as a
spectator. I am kind of shy and intensely aware of my
ignorance of proper modes of behaviour. <br>I am a
grandmother of two little girls who know nothing about Native
American culture and I want to change this. I don't want
assimilation to completely win in this family!<br>In the past
I studied psychology at university, and am
considering undertaking a course of Native American studies
to obtain a teaching certificate (I think I have a
few good years left in me). <br>Another interest of
mine in needlework and sewing. I make clothes for my
family and want to learn how to do Native sewing and
beadwork. I have been surfing the net for how-to
information.<br>Finally, I think there is a huge need to improve the
health care available to Native Americans, particularly
urban Natives, so have begun trying to inform myself
about the system(s) in existence now.<br>Anyway, I will
be reading the posts in this club with great
interest, and if I have anything worth contributing, will
write again.<br>-Christine

I would be honored to join the other site. I
can't say I will be able to monitor both site in a
timely manner but I will try.<br><br>I do homeschooling
for my four children and I would like to offer to my
children and myself a course in Ioway Language. I would
greatly appreaciate If you or anyone you might know could
show or share any and or all info you may have on this
important subject. My wife's tipon apache language is also
almost dead. I have been unable to find anyone who knows
how to speak it. I am trying to stop this trend of
cultural death. If you can help I would put you in my
prayers with the great spirit. Thanks in
advance.<br><br>I may not be able to get back to you for a while as
tomorrow I plan to confront some white supremist here.
There is a road that leads to a place where people go
to target shoot. When I went to this place last week
with my children we discovered that some of them had
spray painted a picture of a red man being shot in the
head. There were also swaztikas and other symbols of
hate and ignorence. My oldest son asked me why they
did that. I did not have a reply for him and remained
silent, due to emotion and anger. I was afraid to show
this to my children. But a couple of nights ago as I
slept a thought crept into my mind, "The only thing
that evil needs to triumph is for good men to do
nothing". Well, fuck that, I am a good man and I am going
back up that road. This time I am taking four things
with me, three cans of spray paint, red, white, and
blue, and a rifle. If one of them nazi bastards wants a
piece of me, he can have it, but I'll give as good as I
get. <br><br>Thats not to say that I will foolishly
rush into dangerous situations, but not to respond to
this would be giving my silent approval. I will be
damned if there will be Native American Genocide while
there is still breath in this body of mine. I could not
look my children in the face or hold my wife and
respect myself if I did not. A man has to pick his
battles and this one is mine. I am a little emotional
right now so I will talk later.<br><br>Your brother Ray

Have never been to Alaska. Was born in KS but
grew up partly in the rainy PNW and the desert PNW and
loved them both. One of the things I miss about the
West are the wide open horizons. When I was little I
spent a lot of time alone in the desert, wandering it.
A very big difference between that and the SE, but
over the many years I have learned to appreciate the
terrain here as well, but do miss the open vistas. The
skies. The watching the weather approach...<br><br>Don't
have the experiences you both do, of course, I can't
commiserate, but even with the painful political ones I
appreciate being able to read about them, to know what is
going on. But it is not just part of feeling a little
more educated with reading and dialogue. I don't want
to be simply "educated". Getting to know people is
what is important to me. Feel very stiff with anything
I have to say right now as I am so
outside.<br><br>Am also an artist, and writer. Plays produced here
but don't like the medium. Am very interested in the
way people work with traditional themes, images,
stories, rather than a purely individualistic approach.
Not to say the individual isn't expressed there as
well, for one is, but some years ago I began to
deliberate on the differences between strictly
individualistic art and that which has within it the history of a
people, communal experience, and traditional means of
communicating a particular idea, so that one glyph carries with
it a whole body of knowledge. Am looking forward to
reading more about your Native America studio, Ray, and
the kinds of things you do.<br><br>Me? I have
recently been painting stick figures in the desert with
toy dinosaurs. The way the heads of my stick figures
look some people call them my "bowling ball" people.
&lt;g&gt; I don't exhibit.<br><br>Would like to also do the
other mailing list so will be sending in my email
address, Lance.<br><br>Juli

Hi Ray and Juli-<br><br>I agree with Ray, in that
today it has much more to do with what is in your
heart. I would be glad to add either or both of you to
the IowaysOnline list to check out if nothing else.
Maybe even find some relatives. There are about 100 or
so on that list..sometimes it is busy and sometimes
not. Email me at hengruh@... and include your
email addresses if you want to try it.<br><br>Ray they
just had another tribal election and the same old
thing continues, no changes. It's a dirty business back
there, and like you, I have pretty much washed my hands
of it. Threats etc. How I stay connected to the good
people is through the internet, and when I have the
money and time I will check the powwow now and again.
Very sad, but not surprising. I think the best thing
is to go on, and be friends with the good people,
get together when we can, remain Ioway Indian however
we can. We can talk more about that.<br><br>I will
check back here one more time today (Sunday) but will
be gone for one week to professional meetings.. back
a week from Tuesday (30th). Take care and thanks
for joining!

I dont mind going by my real name but I
understand if you dont giving that kind of info can be a
problem so lets just use first names. Juli it does not
matter to me if you are a tribal member or not as long
as you have a Ioway Heart! There are plenty of so
called tribal members that have forgottin how to be
skins if they ever Knew. Lance I moved back to the res
in 97 to help my mom and my aunties fight the good
fight and keep the tribal chairman and is lakys from
giving what was left of our tribe to the casino people.
It finaly killed my auntie carson and my family
recieved death threats, I have four Great native children
on myside and there moms tipon apache. after that I
said forget it and I brang them here to ketchikan. It
rains alot but there is plenty of game and lots of
salmon.I own a Native art studio Named Native America.I
did it just so I could stay in touch with my people.
When I first got to Alaska I whent to work for Alaska
Native Heritage Center in ancorage, they where building
a Traditional Long house they sent me down here to
work and learn how to Adze the wood after 4 months I
fell in love with this beautiful rainy land. I dont
mind the rain never did. but lots of people come here
and can't handle it. thats alright with me keeps the
land from being destroyed. in the summer when seasons
going We get over 1/2 Million visitors thats plenty. in
the winter the rains dry-up and things get quiet. It
gives me time to do sweats and injoy the land. I do
miss the plains and Horses it's all Fyords here but on
Clear days you can see forever! P.s. post me back Your
Brother Ray.

Hello, Lance. It's a pleasure to "meet" you. Let
me say first, what an incredible piece of sculpture
"War" is. And I hope you have the opportunity to do it.
The concept is beautiful.<br><br>Don't know if I
could qualify for your private email group. I'm no
spammer. But I have no explicit proof. My family had said
maybe Chahta, but they were splintered and didn't like
to talk about it. Eventually I was able to connect
with another branch of my family, found them only
within the last six months, and I was told I was looking
in the wrong place, that we were Ioway. This is
several generations back but it is very important to me.
My gggrandfather's sister, her family was
interviewed and they were the ones that said the family was
Ioway, that she grew up Indian then was boarded with a
white family to grow up knowing white ways, eventually
married into that family and was forbidden by her husband
to practice Indian ways or to acknowledge her
ancestry (from what I understand it was a pretty troubled
situation, the individual she married was "no good", but I'm
told she was a wonderful person herself). But she
ended up living in Osage I.T. and descendants married
Osage and they kept an account. So I only know what was
going on with my gggrandfather's sister--don't know
where my gggrandfather was during that time or their
siblings and can find no trace of the siblings. We're
talking very early assimilation of course. My family does
end up on the census eventually in Chautauqua Co. KS,
and for several consecutive censuses (1900 to 1920)
change where they came from and even completely change
given names at one point and finally change the
spelling of the surname. I have been in contact with two
others who said also it was Ioway. My gggrandfather was
born in Iowa as was his sister, and the family insists
that they were Ioway, and not just from a tribe that
lived in Iowa. I have my own reasons for believing they
are right.<br><br>Anyway, am very glad to find this.
When I checked out your Ioway site a couple of months
ago this wasn't available. <br><br>I am very eager to
learn, and am interested in learning
language...understanding of course the many restrictions of the internet
and protocal. I appreciate the effort you've put into
this. Any literature you could recommend as being an
essential and fairly reliable read, if available on the
market, I'd appreciate.<br><br>Juli

That's me, Lance. We also have a private email
group for members of the tribe, which is also open to
people of Iowa tribal ancestry even if not enrolled if
they know their geneaological connections. Just a way
to keep out spammers etc. This is a totally public
club for anyone. I started all this stuff for the
reason you just stated, since their was nothing online
for and about our tribe. The Iowa of Kansas-Nebraska,
by this I mean the business committee/tribal
government, does not seem to be interested in doing stuff on
the Internet. The Iowa of Oklahoma are trying to get
something going, but their site <a href=http://www.iowanation.org
target=new>http://www.iowanation.org</a>
has been going to open "in a few weeks" since last
spring, so who knows when that is going to happen. I have
been trying to get any other tribal members interested
in doing a site of their own online, but I haven't
had any luck so far. I like a diversity of sites if
we can get them, different points of view and
interests. I am doing all this because our culture and
language is almost all gone, and I want to make a last
effort to do something about it.

Hin pi ke. I am good.<br><br>Very cool.. I am
living in Anchorage. I created this site as one nore way
for people to find our online Ioway community. I have
been doing online stuff on the Ioway since about
'95.<br><br>What families are you related to?

How much do I want to learn about the Ioways? I'm
eager to learn what there is that's accessible and open
for me to learn. <br><br>As for pain, I figure that
pain is a part of every package, at least such is my
experience in all aspects of life. <br><br>Whatever you want
to talk about is fine by me. What you are
comfortable with in an open forum such as this. And, as you
indicated, something you might enjoy talking about.

glad to meet you I dont where the guy who started
this site is. but I am ioway indian I Know Lance
foster. met him at a tribal meeting that got realy ugly
lot of posers thats why I moved to Alaska. I dont
know how much you want to know ahbout the Ioways some
of it is realy painful. send me a message lets talk
ahbout good things.

Just discovered this club yesterday. Am not a
tribal member. Recently learned I am of Ioway ancestry.
Have checked out Lance Foster's material on line. He
appears to be the primary source of information on line.
Other than that there's very little. I am simply
interested in learning more and having some dialogue,
getting to know some people. Am on several other NDN
lists but they are Yahoo listgroups rather than clubs
and with the dialogue rather than news-oriented the
messages are private so I am rather hesitant in posting to
a public club. But am glad to see a venue.

Aho! Darixga? <br>(Hello! How are
you?)<br><br>Definitely. Red Blooded Ioway. Have Relatives in both White
Cloud, Kansas and Nebraska. <br><br>Where in Alaska are
you living and What made you create this
site?<br><br>I will look for reply when I get back from
dinner.<br><br>Hope to read your reply soon.

You live in Alaska?? So do I! Are you Ioway?

I live in Alaska.there are lots of Indians here
but they dont have the plains references.I miss Pow
wows And prayer Ceremonies,Indian basketball. I would
like to learn the Ioway Language. If I can help with
this web site in Eneny way let me Know.

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