15 years ago, the United Nations General Assembly Resolution 4686 revoked Resolution 3379 which claimed that Zionism was a form of racism. Anyone who would...
Rebecca Gold
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Aug 1, 2006 9:35 am
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Hello everyone, I have very much been enjoying the discussions on this group, thanks everyone for your opinions. I want to offer an opinion that may be ...
Noam Dolgin - Teva Le...
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Aug 16, 2006 3:18 pm
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Hello everyone, I have very much been enjoying the discussions on this group, thanks everyone for your opinions. I want to offer an opinion that may be ...
Noam Dolgin - Teva Le...
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Aug 16, 2006 3:21 pm
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Hello everyone, I have very much been enjoying the discussions on this group, thanks everyone for your opinions. I want to offer an opinion that may be ...
Noam Dolgin - Teva Le...
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Aug 16, 2006 3:24 pm
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Swift and rapid counter response from another progressive Zionist By the way Noam, good to meet you - do you know Alexandra Cooperman? I went to university...
Tomer Chervinsky
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Aug 16, 2006 3:56 pm
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Guys, Sorry for being involved that much lately, but you know... Zionism is not racism, why? Very simple. Zionism is the need and wanting of a Jewish State...
Alon de Lieme
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Aug 17, 2006 4:45 pm
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B"H Sorry for taking so long to respond but I've been very busy these past two weeks. As things are slowly getting back to normal I finally have the time to...
Hello Tomer, Yehuda, et al. Thank you all for thoughtful responses. Point of Clarification: My general point is that while Zionism contradicts North American...
Noam Dolgin - Teva Le...
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Aug 24, 2006 3:58 am
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OK... It's been asked for, so I will do my best - with the disclaimer that from here on out I am venturing into my own philosophical gleanings of Socialist...
Tomer Chervinsky
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Aug 25, 2006 4:10 am
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I think that Noam made some good points. So long as they are loyal to Israel and accept it as a Jewish state, non-Jews should be allowed to live peacefully in...
Benjamin Katz
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Aug 25, 2006 1:26 pm
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Benjamin... I disagree with the assumption you make: *"the Torah is the source of all Jewish ethics simply because it is the most authentically "Jewish"...
Tomer Chervinsky
tomerjc@...
Aug 25, 2006 2:42 pm
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Hello Benj, Another well thought through response, I love this listserve. It is true that Jewish law and biblical tradition when it comes to “strangers”...
Noam Dolgin - Teva Le...
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Aug 26, 2006 6:11 pm
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I'm offended by the very idea that some of you are willing to sacrifice Israel's democratic and western character in favor of become more middle eastern. What...
Rebecca Gold
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Aug 26, 2006 7:00 pm
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I would agree with you Becky with only two things I disagree on: 1) As a Canadian I have a tendancy to say "who care's what the America is going to say" - but...
Tomer Chervinsky
tomerjc@...
Aug 27, 2006 5:50 am
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Becky I have no desire to give up Israels democratic character but Im open minded enough to consider the thought. And quite frankly its the only...
Benjamin Katz
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Aug 27, 2006 12:43 pm
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B"H I just want to clarify some history that might not be understood. On Mount Sinai, G-D gave Moshe three things: 1.. The Written Law - the Torah. 2.. The...
I believe that this is a good place to end this debate. We have now pinpointed a major ideological difference that arguing over will not change. Socialist...
Tomer Chervinsky
tomerjc@...
Aug 27, 2006 6:46 pm
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Before we end this thought provoking debate, I must confess that I have no response for Benny's question on why most of us are faster to give up parts of our...
Rebecca Gold
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Aug 27, 2006 9:05 pm
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We do need a new topic and Im providing one below. I just hope that nobody minds if I first share my feelings about the discussion we all just participated...
Benjamin Katz
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Aug 27, 2006 9:38 pm
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As far as I know there is no official position of Hashomer Hatzair on Pollard, and I am certain that there is no official possition from the North American...
Tomer Chervinsky
tomerjc@...
Aug 28, 2006 3:20 am
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Well now I have to respond dont I :-P ;-) Benjamin - Jabotinsky does not represent Political Zionism - he represents Revisionist Zionism. Political Zionism is...
Tomer Chervinsky
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Aug 28, 2006 3:20 am
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Hi guys, Just to introduce myself quickly- my name is Itamar Weisbrod and I am from Magshimey Herut- Israel. I have been following most of the discussions...
Itamar Weisbrod
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Aug 28, 2006 3:21 am
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While Jabotinsky is considered the father of both Revisionist Zionism and Humanitarian Zionism, Magshimey Herut views him (and Nordau) as Herzls legitimate...
Benjamin Katz
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Aug 28, 2006 6:26 am
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Canada's not as tolerant as you might think Itamar - and this is coming from someone who works for an MP. Moreover the USA is much less tolerant of desent. The...
Tomer Chervinsky
tomerjc@...
Aug 28, 2006 6:39 am
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I have been responding directly to personal statements and possibly reducing this forum to an argument rather than a place to debate ideas. I'm sorry and will...
Tomer Chervinsky
tomerjc@...
Aug 28, 2006 6:43 am
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B"H No need to apologize Tomer. You are clearly a very passionate man gifted with the ability to put your convictions into words. I think that we all learned a...
I found some very interesting information online that relates to what we were talking about a few weeks ago. I would like to share it with you and I'm really...
Rebecca Gold
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Aug 29, 2006 6:48 pm
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Sorry for dipping in an out of e-mail conversations - it's hard to keep up with the pace! My first reaction on seeing the quotes was, "oh not these again" I've...
Friends, I can only be short on this. I agree with Daniel on the: Oh no, not this again! Furthermore, it is completely right that there is no Palestinian...
Alon de Lieme
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Aug 30, 2006 5:08 pm
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And a third lefty makes three. Fundamentally there is a question here: What defines a people/nation. By almost every sociological / anthropological etc....
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