Amy -

Corporals Ard and Scream are flaming Adam Henry’s.  There was  absolutely NO
rhyme or reason to suspect there were any other passengers in the  vehicle.
After all, the occupants were walking,  talking, breathing  human beings who
waited for their father to remove them from the scene.   With that said, if
there was still an ongoing investigation why did they allow  the brothers to
leave?

They should have secured the scene but NOT let anyone near it.  They  should
NEVER have allowed the wrecker to move the truck below the live wires
regardless of how many rubber tires the vehicles had.

If both officers were dumb enough to walk under the live wires on a number
of occasions, they both had a wanton, reckless disregard for mother nature and
all of her fury.   Obviously not the sharpest pencils in that police
department.

Since the police department contacted the utility company as they were
already at the scene, it was perfectly logical for Brouss to realize that the
scene was safe and secure and follow their normal procedures.  Presumably  the
imminent danger no longer existed.  Brouss had no way of knowing that  the two
officers at the scene were two of the dumbest human beings alive on this 
planet.

No driver has a duty to protect stupid LEO’s from doing stupid  things.
Their acts were unconscionable and definitely not  predictable.

Corporals Ard and Scream have managed to win my nomination for the 2006
Darwin Award.  I believe Ard will have a good chance of winning.


Sincerely  yours,
Sue
________________________
Sue Sarkis
Sarkis Detective Agency

(est.  1976)
PI 6564
1346 Ethel Street
Glendale, CA  91207-1826
818-242-2505
818-242-9824 FAX

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Hello suesarkis,

Don't hold back Sue.. tell us how you REALLY feel ..

It is unclear from the posts as to whether or not Cpl Ard survived his
close encounter of the Tesla kind - but if he has, perhaps the ECT has
improved his ability to function in society ...

I wonder what the test for Corporal is on that force?

Having said that, it seems clear enough that waiting until the danger
from the power lines was removed by those whose job it is to do such
things would be the course followed by the hypothetical "prudent man"

For the sake of argument, let us presume that it was not high voltage
lines, but a ruptured gas tank on the truck.. would they have poked
around before the Fire Dept got there to control the possible
explosion? I suspect that they would have waited a safe distance until
the foam was down. Which in turn would indicate that they did not
RECOGNIZE the danger of the power lines vs the spilled gasoline.

If they want to sue someone, I suggest they sue the police dept
training officer for not telling them that that was a stupid thing to
do, as well as the police chief foe promoting them, never mind letting
them wander about the countryside  -- makes as much sense as the other





Saturday, July 22, 2006, 1:08:05 AM, you wrote:

> Amy -
>
> Corporals Ard and Scream are flaming Adam Henry’s.  There was  absolutely NO
> rhyme or reason to suspect there were any other passengers in the  vehicle.
> After all, the occupants were walking,  talking, breathing  human beings who
> waited for their father to remove them from the scene.   With that said, if
> there was still an ongoing investigation why did they allow  the brothers to
leave?
>
> They should have secured the scene but NOT let anyone near it.  They  should
> NEVER have allowed the wrecker to move the truck below the live wires
> regardless of how many rubber tires the vehicles had.
>
> If both officers were dumb enough to walk under the live wires on a number
> of occasions, they both had a wanton, reckless disregard for mother nature and
> all of her fury.   Obviously not the sharpest pencils in that police
> department.
>
> Since the police department contacted the utility company as they were
> already at the scene, it was perfectly logical for Brouss to realize that the
> scene was safe and secure and follow their normal procedures.  Presumably  the
> imminent danger no longer existed.  Brouss had no way of knowing that  the two
> officers at the scene were two of the dumbest human beings alive on this 
planet.
>
> No driver has a duty to protect stupid LEO’s from doing stupid  things.
> Their acts were unconscionable and definitely not  predictable.
>
> Corporals Ard and Scream have managed to win my nomination for the 2006
> Darwin Award.  I believe Ard will have a good chance of winning.

--  Respectfully,

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  PCG-Investigations
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7:07:35 AM Saturday, July 22, 2006

Corporeal Ard recognized the danger of the power line above the
> truck and warned the occupants to stay in the vehicle
_____________________
IMPORTANT: Ard should be held partially responsible for his own death.
________________


>, however, his warning was ignored as the occupants proceeded to get out
>of the vehicle and inform him that they had already been out and walked
>around the vehicle without problem.  Corporeal Ard directed the occupants
>up to the edge of the roadway away from their disabled vehicle; the
>occupants waited there until their father came to the scene and took them
>home.  At some point, Corporeal Scream  also arrived on the scene to
>assist in the investigation.  A wrecker arrived and was able to pull the
>truck from underneath the sagging lines back to the side of the roadway;
__________________________


Why was this permitted if Corp. Ard knew of danger?
____________________
> .  It is clear that both officers safely
> walked under the low hanging wires on their way back to the scene.
_____________________


Why were they walking under the lines at the low area?
Given Ard was walking under the low line and electrocuted, he could not
have been safely walking under the low energized power line? They may have
walked back to the scene by passing under the line without incident, but
not safely.

Did they have to walk under the line at the low point to get to the scene?
________________________________________________



>  Once they finished checking the scene, they began to walk back towards
> the highway
_____________________________________
Did they have to walk under the line at the low point to return to the
highway?

IMPORTANT: Police Department should be held partially responsible for not
providing a reasonably safe work place: procedures for conducting a
"rescue" investigation while the power line is energized, given the
circumstances. No other investigation should have been conducted until the
line was de-energized.
_______________________________________________

>
>stuck by it"s policy of calling the person at the top of the list who
>was on duty, even though in this situation Mr. Travis lived in DeRidder,
>over 30 miles from the scene.  It is undisputed that it took Mr. Travis 32
>minutes to get to the scene.  Henry was injured only minutes before Mr.
>Travis was able to shut down the power.
________________________________________

Was the Quincy repairman available? If so, Brouss should be held
partially liable for  Ard's death.


_____________________________________________________
response 2:
Bartow is not responsible for the incident which happened AFTER his accident.
A power line can come down for any reason and is a danger. Bartow did not
cause the danger to exist in the power line. We don't even know if the
accident
was his fault.

Same thing happened here several years ago. Young driver hits pole and knocks
down power line. Two cars stop to help, one of the helpers was electrocuted.
No one sued. She knew what the danger and risk was.


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In a message dated 7/22/2006 5:27:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com writes:
Corporals Ard and Scream have managed to win my nomination for the 2006
Darwin Award.  I believe Ard will have a good chance of winning.
_________-
I am laughing so hard, i can't type.
amy


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Dear groups,

Please forgive the multiple posts, but i am asking for
some help.  You will find a link to a website

http://journals.aol.com/sbt914/HurricaneWilmaDestruction/

This is my home in Tamarac , Florida.  My contractor
has relocated to North Carolina. Not only him, but
some of my moneuy.  He has abandoned the job in the
middle.  He hired sub conttractors and some of their
work was shoddy at best.

If anyone can help and tell me how to handle him as I
have already reported him to the state.

We have also run dry of money to finish the house. If
anyone would care to make a contributition we would
be eternally grateful.

Thank you.

   Steven B. Taylor
RZD Investigative Group, Inc
Skiptrace Consultants
7154 No. University Dr # 232
Tamarac, Fl 33321
www.skiptraceconsultants.com

Steven -

Did he have insurance at the time?  Did the subcontractors have  insurance at
the time?  If so, go after his insurance companies.  Do  not expect the State
to help you much because I'm certain you are not  alone.  The ONLY thing you
need money for right now is an ATTORNEY  !!!!!  Forget about repairs on the
house until you handle the legal end, if  possible.

If what you have stated is a "fact" and you do not have to be concerned
about libel, provide as much information as you have and I'm certain that people
on these lists can help you find out a lot of the information you need.
Also, if you filed a claim with the licensing contractors' board, regardless of
what it is called in FL, does FL's "Public Records Act" make them public
records?  If so, again no concern about disclosure.

This should be the number one priority in your life and with the help of
many of us, you can "kick butt" big time.  For those of you sitting there
wincing at the thought of publicly disclosing someone's identity, please 
remember
this is the United States of America and we have a First Amendment  right as
long as we are telling the truth.  If you cannot do that, I for  one will gladly
accept the information via private email.

Good luck and may God be with you.

Sincerely  yours,
Sue
________________________
Sue Sarkis
Sarkis Detective Agency

(est.  1976)
PI 6564
1346 Ethel Street
Glendale, CA  91207-1826
818-242-2505
818-242-9824 FAX

If you can read this,  thank a teacher. If you can read it in English, thank
a military veteran !


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Sue,

   Unfortunatly I did not do my own due diligence as I found out that after the
fact he was not licensed. I have already begun to consult with an attorney and
the State of Florida.

   The biggest priority in my life is gettin back in my home as I do not have the
money to continue renting.  My insurance company has also gone into
receivership.

   Never a dull moment here.

   Thank you.

suesarkis@... wrote:
           Steven -

Did he have insurance at the time? Did the subcontractors have insurance at
the time? If so, go after his insurance companies. Do not expect the State
to help you much because I'm certain you are not alone. The ONLY thing you
need money for right now is an ATTORNEY !!!!! Forget about repairs on the
house until you handle the legal end, if possible.

If what you have stated is a "fact" and you do not have to be concerned
about libel, provide as much information as you have and I'm certain that people
on these lists can help you find out a lot of the information you need.
Also, if you filed a claim with the licensing contractors' board, regardless of
what it is called in FL, does FL's "Public Records Act" make them public
records? If so, again no concern about disclosure.

This should be the number one priority in your life and with the help of
many of us, you can "kick butt" big time. For those of you sitting there
wincing at the thought of publicly disclosing someone's identity, please
remember
this is the United States of America and we have a First Amendment right as
long as we are telling the truth. If you cannot do that, I for one will gladly
accept the information via private email.

Good luck and may God be with you.

Sincerely yours,
Sue
________________________
Sue Sarkis
Sarkis Detective Agency

(est. 1976)
PI 6564
1346 Ethel Street
Glendale, CA 91207-1826
818-242-2505
818-242-9824 FAX

If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you can read it in English, thank
a military veteran !

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   Steven B. Taylor
RZD Investigative Group, Inc
Skiptrace Consultants
7154 No. University Dr # 232
Tamarac, Fl 33321
www.skiptraceconsultants.com



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If he was a licensed contractor, he has to post a performance bond, that
should be in the paperwork you signed before starting the house.  File a
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Dear groups,

Please forgive the multiple posts, but i am asking for
some help. You will find a link to a website

http://journals. <http://journals.aol.com/sbt914/HurricaneWilmaDestruction/>
aol.com/sbt914/HurricaneWilmaDestruction/

This is my home in Tamarac , Florida. My contractor
has relocated to North Carolina. Not only him, but
some of my moneuy. He has abandoned the job in the
middle. He hired sub conttractors and some of their
work was shoddy at best.

If anyone can help and tell me how to handle him as I
have already reported him to the state.

We have also run dry of money to finish the house. If
anyone would care to make a contributition we would
be eternally grateful.

Thank you.

Steven B. Taylor
RZD Investigative Group, Inc
Skiptrace Consultants
7154 No. University Dr # 232
Tamarac, Fl 33321
www.skiptraceconsultants.com






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Steven,
I'm a retired Multi State Contractor, On of our offices were located in the
state of Florida.
You do have things you can do to recover damages.
First and foremost contact the Dept. Of Professional Regulation in the state
of Florida, Make a formal complaint.
Second, Notify the North Carolina Department of Licensing. They reciprocate
with Florida.
Contact the local building Dept. in Broward County and notify the building
Inspectors of the problem. Make sure that you have a copy of the Building permit
as well as all License numbers and or certificate of competency numbers of
the sub contractors.
Hopefully you were able to obtain a copy of your contractors certificate of
Insurance before awarding him or her the contract.
If I can help you any more please let me know.
I also Know some great Att,s located in Palm Beach County that Might be able
to help you.
Sincerely, Joseph Stonelake, Roanoke Va.


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Not in the State of Florida.


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Not in the State of Florida what?  Are you saying there is no "Public
Records Act" as defined by CHAPTER 119 of the Florida  statutes?


Sincerely  yours,
Sue
________________________
Sue Sarkis
Sarkis Detective Agency

(est.  1976)
PI 6564
1346 Ethel Street
Glendale, CA  91207-1826
818-242-2505
818-242-9824 FAX

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No Sue, I answered the other mail stating that Fla. Contractors required
Bonds. That is up to the owner to request within the state of Florida.
Also he stated that the person was not a licensed General contractor but he
can still peruse the sub contractors if they are licensed.
  Problem in Florida is the lean laws. The Homeowner is not as protected in
Fl. as in most states.
It is known for Gipsy workers running scams and residents are warned of this
every year yet they continue to hire unlicensed contractors. All they have to
do is request a copy of license and a ceriterficate of Insurance.
Sincerely, Joseph


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74 year old widow with end stage emphysema and osteoporosis - guest passenger
- gets hit in the rear  (more about driver who is daughter in law later)  -
minimal damage to the car but she sustains C-3 C-4 subluxation [bones and
ligaments of neck overstretched but not broken].  Her respiratory system will
not
allow fusion surgery, so she is left in a soft collar with pain and numbness.
Has some pain management, but difficult to treat due to pre existing
condition.  Medical records do not reflect the pain and suffering.  Family
members are
dysfunctional and will not make good witnesses.  Best witnesses are treating
doctors, [psych. and pain mgt. are very very good].

  Before the collision, she had a shred of independence, but was unable to
walk or care for herself without assistance.  She was in pain daily, but not
constantly.  She did live alone and a home health nurse came bi weekly.She died
6
months post accident,  but she had to go to a nursing home.  Once there, she
quit taking nourishment.  Her family declined forced feeding.  She was survived
by 2 adult sons, one lives here and was the primary caregiver.  The other son
lived in California and called often, but could not visit much.

  Her internist has been deposed and testified that her pre-accident condition
was terminal, but no one could predict how long she would have lived.  He
said the accident did not extend her life, but he could not say it was a cause
of
her death.  He saw her immediately before the accident and her neck had no
problems.  She was hit on the way home from his office.  He also saw her in the
ER and saw her neck was badly injured.

  She had very extensive pre accident treatment.  She was depressed when she
became ill.  She responded very well to treatment for depression.  She was
given up for dead 2 years before the accident, but made a miraculous recovery.
She had episodes of breathing problems off and on during this 2 year period, but
never came close to dying.

     Her breathing problems were caused by smoking.  She refused to quit until
she could no longer breathe on her own.  She quit in 2000.  The accident was
in 2003.


     Defense says "we didn't kill her, she killed herself" (smoked herself to
death) and "we didn't take anything away from her, she was unable to take care
of herself to begin with"
and "our damage to her was minimal"


     The nursing home records are full of phrases like "patient attempts to
make daughter-in-law feel guilty", "patient mean to family"


     Her daughter in law is weak emotionally and the decedent was expert at
guilt.  The daughter in law attempted suicide post accident 2-3 times.  She was
injured too, but her trial is separate.

     What do you think


in rechecking facts I found that the client only lived 6 months after the
accident and that before the accident she had Home Health only bi weekly instead
of daily


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Amy -

This one, I believe, is relatively simple.

End stage emphysema can go on for a long time but living on oxygen  sucks.
HOWEVER, living in pain is even worse.

It's all about the quality of life.  She WAS ambulatory.  She  only required
bi-weekly nursing visits.  Was she in pain because of the  osteoporosis?  Was
she as far gone as humpback?

Something to consider though is the truth in that women do endure pain much
greater and better then men and back pain is a universal epidemic.   Everyone
can relate to back pain.

The accident  exacerbated a pre-existing condition which became unbearably
worse.  That  is what needs to be emphasized assuming you are working for the
plaintiff.


How much is 6 months of debilitating pain worth?


Sincerely  yours,
Sue
________________________
Sue Sarkis
Sarkis Detective Agency

(est.  1976)
PI 6564
1346 Ethel Street
Glendale, CA  91207-1826
818-242-2505
818-242-9824 FAX

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a military veteran !


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does not look good. As sad as it sounds the defense is crule yet people will
side with him because smokers are killing themselfs so the pain and suffering
means nothing as far as they are concerned. But I smoke and my wife smokes.
When we started we were hooked for life 42 years ago. I can not quit nor can
she. She has terminal Liver Cancer from a pilup within her colon. It is feeding
her liver. Now her Insurance droped her and back dated it after they took her
check. they claim they have sent her the refund but we still have not recived
it.
Point, No one cares because she smoked. One Has nothing to do with the other.
If I were the jurer but Im not I would award but she does not have me. Good
luck. Joseph


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I don't usually get in on these but since i have been a nurse in long term care
for fifteen years, I will point out  you have some pretty big inconsistencies in
this whole thing.

QUOTE:
" Before the collision, she had a shred of independence, but was unable to
walk or care for herself without assistance.  She was in pain daily, but not
constantly.  She did live alone and a home health nurse came bi weekly."

In my experience, and I do help set up things when people go home from a stay at
our facility, The above is pretty much an impossibility.... if she could not
care for herself at all without assistance how did she manage with help only
once every two weeks?

The picture I have in my mind with someone who was able to stay alone with only
someone to look in every two weeks is a much more stable person than you
probably think she was.

The questions I would want to ask are:
Could she get in and out of her wheelchair without assistance?
Could she get in and out of bed by herself?
Was she able to get around her home without help?
Did she toilet and take care of her own personal hygiene?
Did she feed herself?
How did she get food if no one came to help her? Did she cook for herself?
Was she able to bathe herself?
How did she manage her medications?
How did she manage her oxygen?
Did she dress herself?


I know these things might mean little to us on a day to day basis, but if she
was able to do the things above independently, she had the ability to be able to
stay in her own home, she had SOME quality of life before the accident. For many
of our Oldsters being able to stay in their own home is a HUGE thing.



Patty Beeken
President
4thekids Missing Kid Services
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I am going on the assumption that the only two things to consider are  (1)
who was at fault in the accident and (2) what should damages  be.

(1) It is obvious that the deceased was seriously injured as a result  of
the car crash.

> [Her interninst] saw her immediately before the  accident and her neck
had no
> problems. She was hit on the way home  from his office. He also saw her
in the
> ER and saw her neck was  badly injured.

The scenario says:

> gets hit in the rear

in which case almost 100% of the time fault is assessed to the driver  of
the car in the rear.  This is not always the case, but I have a  feeling
that the daughter-in-law who was driving the vehicle that struck the  car
the deceased was riding in was following them home from the trip to  the
internist.  If so, the daughter-in-law should have been driving  far
enough back to avoid hitting the first car, even if it made an  emergency
stop.

So, we come to the conclusion that the daughter-in-law  was at fault in
the accident that injured the deceased.  However, we  should not that
damage to the car appears slight, so that the injury caused  to the
deceased was due more to pre-existing medical conditions than to  the
force of the accident.

(2)  As to assessment of damages we  are told:

a.  The accident leaves her in a soft collar with pain and  numbness, but
that is because doctors cannot perform surgery because of a  condition
caused by her smoking,

b.  Medical records do not  reflect the pain and suffering,

c.  Emphysema and osteoporosis were  so far advanced as to be considered
terminal, although no one would hazard a  guess as to how much longer she
had to live,

d.  She became  depressed when she became ill and, true to form, she quit
taking nourishment  when she arrived at the nursing home, thereby
debilitating herself terribly  while already in the end stages of
emphysema and, last but not  least,

e.  There is no medical evidence that the accident was the  cause of her
demise.

If I were a juror, then, I would have a very hard  time awarding the
deceased's family (I'm assuming they are the ones that are  suing) much of
anything by way of damages.  It would have to be proven  to me that the
accident actually produced damages to the deceased and her  family AND
that those damages were significantly greater than the   medical costs
that they may have had to pay out anyway as the deceased's  health kept
deteriorating.  (Note, there is already some outside home  medical
assistance being paid for.)

The functionality of the family  and the personality of the deceased are
irrelevant in my opinion as to who  was at fault in the accident and how
much damage was caused, except, perhaps  to suggest that the pain
complained of by the deceased might have been  exaggerated in order to put
a "guilt trip" on the  daughter-in-law.





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time  is up or too little too late?
The car accident might have  contributed to shorten her life by a few months,
but her condition pre-accident  was problematic. Her respiratory disease,
caused by constant smoking, prevented  complete recovery from the accident
anyway. Plus, she seems a manipulative  individual towards her daughter-in-law.
I'm
for the defense  100%.







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Did her DiL do it intentionally?  What's the rest of her/their  story?
How did the accident come about?

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I am not sure who is suing who for what/why



answer:
sons are suing nursing home for bad care resulting in  (earlier) death
daughter in law?
other drvier that hit daughter in law?

who should be sued, if anyone?


________________________


100% for  defense.
_________________________
The car accident  might have contributed to shorten her life by a few months,
but her condition  pre-accident was problematic. Her respiratory disease,
caused by constant  smoking, prevented complete recovery from the accident
anyway. Plus, she seems  a manipulative individual towards her daughter-in-law.
I'm
for the defense  100






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The  award should go as follows:

Eternal guilt for the  daughter-in-law.

She has already been sentenced and I think I see a wry  smile eternally
beaming from the deceased  mother-in-law.



(good one, LMAO)


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Amy -

You might suggest to the author of this opinion that they go back and read
your inquiry a few times more.  It is obvious they have the facts totally
skewed.  I'm surprised you'd even post it.

Sue

*****************

This is not always the case, but I have a feeling that the  daughter-in-This
is not always the case, but I have a feeling that the  daughter-in-<WBR>law
who was driving the vehicle that struck the car the  deceased was riding in
wasThis is not always the case, but I have a feeling that the
daughter-in-<WBR>law who was driving the vehicle tha

So, we  come to the conclusion that the daughter-in-So, we  come to the
conclusion that the daughter-in-<WBR>law was at fault in the  accident that
injured
the deceased. However, we should not that damage to the  car appears slight,
so that the injury caused to the deceased was due more to  pre-exis

(2) As  to assessment of damages we are told:

a. The accident leaves her in a  soft collar with pain and numbness, but
that is because doctors cannot  perform surgery because of a condition
caused by her smoking,

b.  Medical records do not reflect the pain and suffering,

c. Emphysema and  osteoporosis were so far advanced as to be considered
terminal, although no  one would hazard a guess as to how much longer she
had to live,

d. She  became depressed when she became ill and, true to form, she quit
taking  nourishment when she arrived at the nursing home, thereby
debilitating  herself terribly while already in the end stages of
emphysema and, last but  not least,

e. There is no medical evidence that the accident was the  cause of her
demise.

If I were a juror, then, I would have a very hard  time awarding the
deceased's family (I'm assuming they are the ones that are  suing) much of
anything by way of damages. It would have to be proven to me  that the
accident actually produced damages to the deceased and her family  AND
that those damages were significantly greater than the medical  costs
that they may have had to pay out anyway as the deceased's health  kept
deteriorating. (Note, there is already some outside home  medical
assistance being paid for.)

The functionality of the family  and the personality of the deceased are
irrelevant in my opinion as to who  was at fault in the accident and how
much damage was caused, except, perhaps  to suggest that the pain
complained of by the deceased might have been  exaggerated in order to put
a "guilt trip" on the  daughter-in-a "g

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Email or Blog address break

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tell who is operating a blog page?

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Email or Blog address break

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