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Hi

I would suggest too, looking over Dean Tong's website www.abuse-excuse.com
which has an incredible amount of information on false sexual abuse
allegations.

This may be of some help. His work is not clearing the guilty,
but proving innocence.

Denise

On Dec 18, 2007 10:04 PM, robert.jackley <infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:

>   I'm a massage therapist of 6 year. I'm a male 34 blond hair blue eyes
> 6' 190, married with two boys. Some people say I'm very good looking
> but I didn't buy into any of that. You are who you are. I have
> enjoyed a very good reputation and a strong clientèle. I give of my
> self 110% to every person I work on. I had a 90% return clientèle.
> And booked 80% of the time. I worked 2 11 hour days and 8 hours days.
> I loved my job!!!
>
> Till May 29 07. I was called into work, Lasata salon and spa where I
> have worked for the last 5 years, on my day off. They said I was
> being fired for a complaint they received on the 26th of May, but
> would not tell me what the complaint was or what it was about. They
> said that I had make a written request to them within 15 days to find
> out. That same day I went to a salon of a acquaintance for mine, I
> told them every thing that had happened and they gave me a job
> because of my good reputation. I made my written request, and
> received the following reply.
>
> "On May 26, 2007 I received a complaint from a client who had a
> massage given by you on May 23, 2007. During the massage there was
> inappropriate behavior. You violated the Lasata Salon and Spa's
> harassment policy and as a result of that, you were let go."
>
> Thats all they would tell me. I apply ed for unemployment and was
> turned down because Lasata's documentation was persuasive. I appealed
> and they sent me a statement saying that Lasata sent them a statement
> from the client saying that I was on the 23 of May.
>
> "behaving inappropriately, she asked me to stop, and said that I
> did. But I didn't apologize and say any thing just keep on with the
> massage like nothing happened."
>
> I remember the day but I have no idea who I worked on that day. But
> I do know that I work a 11 hour day and was booked full the whole day
> with out a launch. The was just anther day. If some one had asked me
> to stop doing something I would have remembered that.
>
> My work at the new Salon was going good. Some of my Lasata clients
> were finding me there. I told ever one of them what had happened,
> they still wanted to see me. and i was picking up allot of new
> clients too.
>
> I didn't hear a thing about Lasata till 9-14-07. The cops came to
> my work to talk to my new boss. They were surprised to see me and
> asked if they could talk to me? I said sure I have nothing to hid. i
> got into there car. It was a School Liaison Officer Investigative
> Division, and a guy with her. They told me that R.V. 22 years old
> when found out that I was no longer at Lasata was devastated. And
> told her mom that I rubbed her breasts and touched her crotch area.
> R.V. is developmentally disabled or "special needs". Her mom told The
> Olmsted County Adult Protection. They told the cops. Officer O'Neil
> first said that they "can get me some if I need it". I told her I
> didn't touch R.V. on the breast or crotch area, and she was all ways
> face down for a 1/2 hour massage once a week for the last two years
> or so. She said that they interviewed a credible person wh o said that
>
> I was inappropriate with her on May 23rd. But would not tell me who
> it was. They then talked to my boss. Told her that this was going to
> be all the news and in the paper. "it was going to be huge" and if
> she did get rid of me they would put her name in there too. I was put
> on a leave of absents. I went out on my own doing house calls on my
> clients that still wanted to see me. Making just enough to keep my
> bills paid.
>
> I didn't hear a thing about it till 12-3-07. When I received a
> Summons in the mail. I was being charged with 4th degree criminal
> sexual conduct. That was filed Nov-28-07. The complaint first said
>
> "The victim's mother told R.V. that "I" would no longer be doing
> her massages and R.v. was devastated. R.V. told her mother that "I"
> rubbed her breasts and it felt "really good". Later on in the report
> it states "that "I" did made her feel upset and R.V. didn't say
> anything because R.V. didn't think "I" would stop" (I'm using "I"
> instead of my name) other wise word for word from the report.
>
> On 12-5-07 it was in the paper saying I was "charged with one count
> of 4th DCSC. Regarding a developmentally delayed client being a
> victim of sexual assault" and "Today, an additional charged was filed
> 5th Degree Sexual Misconduct" And gave my court dates. On the 12-6-07
> it was on the radio!! Ever 15 mins!! I didn't even know about the
> other charged!! I got a Summons in the mail on 12-7-07!! It said on
> May 23 I touched L.L.F.'s breasts including her nipples and kissed
> her abdomen. "L.L.F. said she was so taken back, she couldn't speak.
> L.L.F. said she knew what was happening but froze because she was
> scared to death that "I" would hurt her if she moved." and "because
> of this incident she has nightmares, sleep disturbances and
> concentration problems." and that "she felt unsafe" now "was having a
> hard time sleep ing because of this incident and was afraid that "I"
> would come after her" and "was having problems sleeping and
> concentrating and was afraid " would show up at her work."
>
> I never touched R.V. or L.L.F. sexually in any way! I always use
> only approved massage strokes and I do the same massage ever time I
> work on someone so when they say what you did last time was prefect I
> know what I did. I have so many clients I could never keep them all
> strait. If L.L.F. was froze and tense I would have been able to tell.
> There was nothing out the ordinary about her last massage. I didn't
> even know who made the complaint till I saw L.L.F. and even then it
> didn't come to me right away. Its her married name. I have been
> working on her for about 3 years or so. And I should have never taken
> R.V. as a client! And never should worked on her without someone in
> the room with her.
>
> On 12-7-07 I applied and got a Public Defender! Its now 12-16-07
> and I have not heard from my PD I know her name and left a message
> with her but have not heard back!! Her message said if leave one
> message theres no need to call again, she will get back to you!
>
> I don't know what to do!! I really need help!! This is the worst
> thing I could ever imagine!! It makes me sick that some would think
> that way about me!! I'm not the smartest person in the world, thats
> why I'm working with my hands!! But I do know that I don't deserve
> what is happening to me! If there is any help or advice you can give
> me I would appreciate it.
>
>
>
>
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I totally agree with Vicki,

In infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com, "Vicki Siedow"
<SiedowAndAssociates@...> wrote:
>
> BREATHE!  OK, you need to get an attorney.  .
>
> I am removing the remainder of the post, maybe the info guys will
agree to remove it from the data base as well.

You need an attorney, preferably a woman since they are more
sympathetic to a jury in these type of cases.  Next, see if you can
compile of list of clients who you serviced in the original salon,
the last salon and your present clientele.  Hopefully a few of them
will probably be willing to testify for you.

Next you need a good PI, my first gut feeling was is the
developmentally disable girl #1 unhappy because her mom was going to
stop bringing her there for whatever other reason and then the girl
got mad at you and decided to make up the wild story, or #2 is this
girl actually being molested by someone else and afraid to tell.   I
had an adolescent client once who made up a huge story about being
raped by the upstairs neighbor when actually it was her own father
molesting her.  She was afraid to tell her mother or anyone else but
fortunately after some counseling and showing up to the home
unannounced for home visits it came out.

Next the fact that they publicized your situation over the radio
every 15 minutes may have prejudiced your jury pool, so you may want
to consider a change of venue, your attorney will discuss this with
you.

You will need to get a character list of witnesses, people that have
known you well for many years, former employers and so on, you need
an army because whenever you are dealing with the disabled mentally
or otherwise, people are hypersensitive and sympathetic to them and
often do not understand that they can be deceptive or confused even.

The second accusation, did it come after all the advertising, I
thought I understood that.  That probably will be seen as an
opportunist, someone that wants to make money in a lawsuit.  They may
not be able to get much from you but they can go after the salon.
You will need a PI to dig into that situation as well.

Its a shame that someone with your credentials and good will has to
suffer this injustice.  I feel for you.  I had many a massages for a
few years by men and then later by a woman, all of them were
professional and I never felt violated.  One thing that the men did
was because it was a chiropractic office the massages were conducted
in the open area with several tables side by side, that may have
helped keep them protected from false allegations.

It may help in the future to keep notes on your clients names,
contact info and times & days you gave service as well as anything
unusual such as complaints of injuries from other activities or any
conversation that concerns you.

There is also the possibility that this girl or her mother was
attracted to you or her mother and once they realized there wasn't
going to be anything  but a professional relationship one of them
became spiteful.

I will be praying for your vindication in this matter and please let
me know if I can help in any way, I don't know what state you are in,
but I am sure whereever you are there are excellent PI's available to
help you.  It may help to have a woman [no offense guys] due to the
nature of the type of questions that will need to be asked, women
being interviewed will obviously feel more comfortable with a woman.

Gladys Brierley
Accurate Investigations
PO Box 872
Newton, MS  39345
601-480-3181 cell
www.freewebs.com/glad4jc
www.myspace.com/mississippiinvestigator

Thank you all who responded to my request for a Canadian PI.  It has
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Marlin's Special Investigations, Inc.
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>
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Surveillance Report
Subject: San T. Clause
Today's Date: 12-20
Please perform surveillance on or about the 25th of December.
Objective:
Please ascertain and document Mr. Clauses' current occupation,
residence as well as his freedom of movement during daily
activities.
Please provide video and report. No statements are required.
Last Known Address:
North Pole
Physical Description:
Approximately 6 foot tall with reddish hair (could be going gray or
white) Full beard and mustache when last observed. Heavy set and
appears red faced and jolly. Suspected to be a good dresser was last
observed in a red suit with black belt and shoes.
Surveillance requested by:
Mr. G.R.Inch of the Biggest baddest, holds the record for the least
payouts (but we are all about customer care) Insurance company.

12-25
Subjects Name: San T. Clause


4:00 AM We depart for the subjects last known residence.
4:30 Am We arrive at the subjects last known residence. The North
Pole. This can be described as what appears to be a mound of snow
with a red and white striped pole on top. There are several similar
mounds of snow in the area. We are unable to determine if they are
connected to the subject's residence. After determining the most
likely egress from the area we set up for surveillance and await
activity.

5:30 AM We have observed no movement in the neighborhood or from the
subjects suspected residence. We continue surveillance.

5:59 AM We observe what appears to be a door open in a mound of snow
previously thought to be a mound of snow. We observe a White male
in the doorway he appears to fit the subjects description. He bends
at the waist and retrieves what appears to be a newspaper. The
newspaper was not previously observed as it was covered in snow.
BRIEF VIDEO is taken at this time of whom we believe to be the
subject and will be reported as such throughout this surveillance.
The video shows the subject bending at the waist with no apparent
discomfort. Standing and returning into what is now believed to be a
residence.

6:38 AM We observe a larger door opening on the adjacent snow mound.
This appears to be garage door sized. We observe and VIDEO TAPE what
appears to be 8 reindeer pulling a large red sleigh. The rear of the
sleigh is piled high with what might be described as sacks filled
with undetermined contents. We again observe the subject in the
garage like snow mound VIDEO TAPE is continued. This video is of the
subject walking through the garage like structure going out of view
several times and returning to place several small items in the
front seat of the previously observed sleigh. The garage like door
then closes leaving the reindeer and sleigh outside. This
investigator drives by the residence in order to obtain the license
plate number the plate is only partially visible the letters OHOH in
the middle snow covers the first and last letter.

6:51 AM We observe the subject exit the residence and walk towards
the sleigh, he then boards said sleigh and leans forward reaching
for what appear to be leather reins. He pulls the reins and is
partially overheard to say, on Dancer on Prancer. We obtain VIDEO.
It appears that the subject continues to speak but we are unable to
hear as the reindeer seem to be moving forward and picking up speed.
We begin mobile surveillance at this time.

7:00 AM At this time we have lost sight of the subject as he seems
to have left the ground and begun flying in a sleigh with 8 tiny
reindeer pulling. We maintained surveillance until we reached a
speed that was considered to be unsafe. The subjects speed continued
to increase during the last moments that they were in view.

7:30 AM At this time these investigators, after a careful search of
the surrounding area for the subject have concluded that this
surveillance should be terminated. These investigators checked the
local shopping centers, gas stations and repair facilities. We have
been unable to reacquire contact with the subject. It appears that
the subject has complete freedom of movement. We were unable to
determine the subject's current place and/or type of employment.

8:00 AM We have interviewed several neighbors in the area (There is
no charge) It seems that the subject was aware of the surveillance
today. The subject knew when we were awake and if we were we were
good or bad. Several different reports lead us to believe that the
subject may be "coming to town" we check the town in hopes of re
acquiring the subject we had a last glimpse of him in the sky on the
sleigh. The subject was overheard saying.
"Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night"

8:30 Am We return to point of origin.
Billing:
4.5 hours 957 miles

Merry Christmas

Dear friends and colleagues:

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Joyeux Noël-frances
Christmas Alegre-portugues
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Hi,

I really wanted to spur a discussion on that post Rick put here about a week ago
on this, if someone has it handy, please repost it if you want to discuss it.

I was curious to know if there had been any updates on the situation.? Did the
government get a search warrant for his home or car.? I hardly ever write down
passwords but he may have.?

Also while he cannot be forced to release his password since the judge ruled
that is protected under the 5th amendment, can they get his online history and
record keeping subpoenaed.?

There is shutterfly, photobucket and other places where images can be saved
under his account with that service.? It may be that he has uploaded these file
images of children and possibly also streaming video of assaults on children.?
As long as they can tie the images or video to his subscription then he is
toast.? Also then the government can also use that services "allowance" of cp
images, video to further investigate that online company and gain access to all
their files through a court order, reasonable suspicious of criminal activity
since hosting those images is a federal crime.? Then the whole network will open
up.

What my goal would be is to save children in some cases to send them home to
their parents saved from their terrible ordeal, or in other case to get them
away from their parents who are moletsting them and putting that out on the
internet.

I know most of you have probably heard of NAMBLA, well they have been very
politically motivated to have laws of consent changed, I am not going to go into
all that here but there is alot of money in some of those circles, and actually
there is a female counterpart organization with its sole purpose to promote
mother daughter sexual interaction and they in some cases are involved with
NAMBLA and others in the "breeding" of children for such purposes.? If anyone
wants to know more contact me off list.

I didn't mean to digress but to open up discussioin about the legalities of this
case and how it could open up so much to find missing & exploited children since
these predators network big time.

Gladys Brierley
PO Box 872
Newton, MS? 39345
601-683-2094 bus & fax
601-480-3181 cell [best way to reach me]
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Gladys -

What's to discuss.  The federal judge said NO based on his  misinterpretation
of the 5th Amendment.  I think people are waiting to see  if the feds take it
even higher.  On the other hand, since PC already  exists, I think they
should just hack into it.  What good does being  victorious over such issues
matter
when the defendant then announces that he  totally forgot the password?

Asking a man for a password to his computer is even less violative than a
court ordering a suspect to cough up sputum, provide sperm, "open wide"  for a
saliva swab, "roll up your sleeve" for blood drawing, having  their
fingerprints taken or anything remotely similar.  The judge was just  out and
out wrong,
in my opinion.



Sincerely  yours,
Sue
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>
> Gladys -
>
> What's to discuss.  The federal judge said NO based on his
misinterpretation
> of the 5th Amendment.  I think people are waiting to see  if the
feds take it
> even higher.  On the other hand, since PC already  exists, I think
they
> should just hack into it.  What good does being  victorious over
such issues matter
> when the defendant then announces that he  totally forgot the
password?


Incorrect!

A few attorneys that I know, two of my sub-contractors, and I have
all been waiting for this to happen for quite a while now.

The Prosecution has always stated their analogy has been that
compelling someone to give over their pass phrase for encrypted files
on their computer is akin to compelling someone to turn over their
key to their locker so they can search it for evidence. And that has
always been B.S., but most Judge's found the analogy "easy to buy"
and convenient.

The fact is, if that pass phrase has never been written down, and has
always been kept in a person's memory, it is not a document, or
a "key", it is a thought. The pass phrase is a thought that can only
be arrived at by compelling the person with the thought to verbalize
it in a self incriminating statement, making that person a witness
against himself. A person can't be compelled to verbalize self
incriminating thoughts under the 5th amendment. Simply put, this
process makes a person a witness against their self in a criminal
case as the text states in the 5th amendment: "nor shall be compelled
in any criminal case to be a witness against himself". The fact is
EVEN our government KNOWS this, that is why our government devised
an "immunity strategy" that gives the appearance of immunity, but
still allows for prosecution on the same case they would be offering
immunity on. The government probably won't appeal, because if they
lose the appeal, that only strengthens this current line of legal
thought.

The Judge did not misinterpret anything, he was "dead on correct".
The Judge in this case probably has more gonads than he does brains,
but he is still correct in his ruling.

Good luck getting ANYONE to "crack" PGP if it is set up correctly....

I am going to go with my "suspicious mind" and lay odds that this man
did not forget his pass phrase.




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Rick -

For starters, although you might disagree with some legal views, how dare
you say INCORRECT about what I wrote.  There was nothing incorrect there at  all
as I opined the judge is incorrect but that was an opinion, not a stated
fact..  You can disagree all you want but do not accuse my thought process  of
being INCORRECT especially when my mind thinks the same as the major players  in
the legal courts.

The part you inserted and argued was -

What's to discuss. The federal judge said NO based on his  misinterpretation
of the 5th Amendment. I think people are waiting to see  if the feds take it
even higher. On the other hand, since PC already  exists, I think
they should just hack into it. What good does being  victorious over such
issues matter when the defendant then announces that  he totally forgot the
password?


Your argument is as incorrect as the liberal attorneys arguing such  points.
You should read the paper written by Phillip R. Reitinger, which  is
mentioned in the article you shared.  I read it many years ago.   It's entitled
"Compelled Production of Plaintext and Keys".  A password to  a computer file is
no
different than a key to a safe deposit box.  It is  NOT a thought process as
they are regarded but merely a mandatory lock and key  system forced upon us by
the various browsers, databases, etc.

Just because it might have always been kept in someone's mind and not
written down, NO evidence of which exists in the case at hand to such nonsense,
does not make it a "thought process" such as a plan to rob a bank, or a plan to
kill someone, or a plan to invent the wheel.  It is not incrimination per  5th
amendment because the password does nothing but open the locked box.   It is
the contents of that locked box that might be incriminating just like the
contents of your home searched pursuant to a S/W, your safe deposit box searched
after you were forced to give up the combination, etc.

Also, since no one ever said he alleges he forgot his password, you  are
laying odds on a dead horse.  I just mentioned that as a possible  scenario in
any
such case whereby the court orders someone to recite or  write something they
have memorized.  Why go through all the wasted time  and expense when there
are other ways to get to the information.

A password is merely a combination, per se.

I agree with your right to disagree and I understand your liberal thoughts,
but do not attack my opinions as being INCORRECT, please.







Incorrect!

A few attorneys that I know, two of my  sub-contractors, and I have
all been waiting for this to happen for quite a  while now.

The Prosecution has always stated their analogy has been that
compelling someone to give over their pass phrase for encrypted files
on  their computer is akin to compelling someone to turn over their
key to their  locker so they can search it for evidence. And that has
always been B.S.,  but most Judge's found the analogy "easy to buy"
and convenient.

The  fact is, if that pass phrase has never been written down, and has
always  been kept in a person's memory, it is not a document, or
a "key", it is a  thought. The pass phrase is a thought that can only
be arrived at by  compelling the person with the thought to verbalize
it in a self  incriminating statement, making that person a witness
against himself. A  person can't be compelled to verbalize self
incriminating thoughts under the  5th amendment. Simply put, this
process makes a person a witness against  their self in a criminal
case as the text states in the 5th amendment: "nor  shall be compelled
in any criminal case to be a witness against himself".  The fact is
EVEN our government KNOWS this, that is why our government  devised
an "immunity strategy" that gives the appearance of immunity, but
still allows for prosecution on the same case they would be offering
immunity on. The government probably won't appeal, because if they
lose  the appeal, that only strengthens this current line of legal
thought.

The Judge did not misinterpret anything, he was "dead on correct".
The Judge in this case probably has more gonads than he does brains,
but  he is still correct in his ruling.

Good luck getting ANYONE to "crack"  PGP if it is set up correctly...G

I am going to go with my  "suspicious mind" and lay odds that this man
did not forget his pass  phrase.

Rick.




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--- In infoguys-list@yahoogroups.com, suesarkis@... wrote:
>
> Rick -
>   For starters, although you might disagree with some legal views,
>how dare
>you say INCORRECT about what I wrote. There was nothing incorrect
>there at all
>as I opined the judge is incorrect but that was an opinion, not a
>stated
>fact.. You can disagree all you want but do not accuse my thought
>process of
>being INCORRECT especially when my mind thinks the same as the major
>players in
>the legal courts.

Incorrect!

Read some of the case law on the subject:

HOFFMAN v. UNITED STATES, 341 U.S. 479 (1951)
341 U.S. 479
HOFFMAN v. UNITED STATES.
CERTIORARI TO THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE THIRD CIRCUIT.
No. 513.
Argued April 25, 1951.
Decided May 28, 1951.

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Read the language of the case law:

"The Fifth Amendment declares in part that "No person . . . shall be
compelled in any criminal case to be a witness [341 U.S. 479, 486]
against himself." This guarantee against testimonial compulsion, like
other provisions of the Bill of Rights, "was added to the original
Constitution in the conviction that too high a price may be paid even
for the unhampered enforcement of the criminal law and that, in its
attainment, other social objects of a free society should not be
sacrificed." Feldman v. United States, 322 U.S. 487, 489 (1944). This
provision of the Amendment must be accorded liberal construction in
favor of the right it was intended to secure. Counselman v. Hitchcock,
142 U.S. 547, 562 (1892); Arndstein v. McCarthy, 254 U.S. 71, 72 -73
(1920)."

"The privilege afforded not only extends to answers that would in
themselves support a conviction under a federal criminal statute but
likewise embraces those which would furnish a link in the chain of
evidence needed to prosecute the claimant for a federal crime."

"It appears that the petition which comprised the supplemental record,
though captioned a "Petition for Reconsideration of Allowance of Bail
Pending Appeal," was by its terms an application to the District Court
to vacate the contempt order on constitutional grounds, and
alternatively a second motion for bail. Clearly this petition, filed
but two weeks after the contempt order, was directed to the power of
the committing court to discharge the contemnor for good cause - a
power which courts should be solicitous to invoke when important
constitutional objections are renewed. Cf. Gouled v. United States, 255
U.S. 298 (1921). The ends of justice require discharge of one having
such a right whenever facts appear sufficient to sustain the claim of
privilege. Accordingly the supplemental record should have been
considered by the Court of Appeals.

For these reasons we cannot agree with the judgments below. If this
result adds to the burden of diligence and efficiency resting on
enforcement authorities, any other [341 U.S. 479, 490]   conclusion
would seriously compromise an important constitutional liberty. "The
immediate and potential evils of compulsory self-disclosure transcend
any difficulties that the exercise of the privilege may impose on
society in the detection and prosecution of crime." United States v.
White, 322 U.S. 694, 698 (1944). Pertinent here is the observation of
Mr. Justice Brandeis for this Court in McCarthy v. Arndstein, 266 U.S.
34, 42 (1924): "If Congress should hereafter conclude that a full
disclosure . . . by the witnesses is of greater importance than the
possibility of punishing them for some crime in the past, it can, as in
other cases, confer the power of unrestricted examination by providing
complete immunity."



Once you start researching case law regarding a person's 5th Amendment
right, and the language used by the appeals courts in that case law,
Miss Sue "Thurgood Marshall" Sarkis, you will begin to understand how
serious this issue has been taken throughout the years.

We are not discussing physical evidence i.e. blood, semen, saliva, hair
samples etc., etc.; we are discussing testimonial disclosures, two
vastly different subjects.



The 5th Amendment right even extends to Police Interrogations, ever
heard of the Miranda Warning? Maybe you should read up on it:

MIRANDA v. ARIZONA, 384 U.S. 436 (1966)
384 U.S. 436
MIRANDA v. ARIZONA.
CERTIORARI TO THE SUPREME COURT OF ARIZONA.
No. 759.
Argued February 28 - March 1, 1966.
Decided June 13, 1966. *

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Read the language in the case law:

"In these cases, we might not find the defendants' statements to have
been involuntary in traditional terms. Our concern for adequate
safeguards to protect precious Fifth Amendment rights is, of course,
not lessened in the slightest. In each of the cases, the defendant was
thrust into an unfamiliar atmosphere and run through menacing police
interrogation procedures. The potentiality for compulsion is forcefully
apparent, for example, in Miranda, where the indigent Mexican defendant
was a seriously disturbed individual with pronounced sexual fantasies,
and in Stewart, in which the defendant was an indigent Los Angeles
Negro who had dropped out of school in the sixth grade. To be sure, the
records do not evince overt physical coercion or patent psychological
ploys. The fact remains that in none of these cases did the officers
undertake to afford appropriate safeguards at the outset of the
interrogation to insure that the statements were truly the product of
free choice."

" The question in these cases is whether the privilege is fully
applicable during a period of custodial interrogation. [384 U.S. 436,
461]   In this Court, the privilege has consistently been accorded a
liberal construction. Albertson v. SACB, 382 U.S. 70, 81 (1965);
Hoffman v. United States, 341 U.S. 479, 486 (1951); Arndstein v.
McCarthy, 254 U.S. 71, 72 -73 (1920); Counselman v. Hitchock, 142 U.S.
547, 562 (1892). We are satisfied that all the principles embodied in
the privilege apply to informal compulsion exerted by law-enforcement
officers during in-custody questioning. An individual swept from
familiar surroundings into police custody, surrounded by antagonistic
forces, and subjected to the techniques of persuasion described above
cannot be otherwise than under compulsion to speak. As a practical
matter, the compulsion to speak in the isolated setting of the police
station may well be greater than in courts or other official
investigations, where there are often impartial observers to guard
against intimidation or trickery. 30

This question, in fact, could have been taken as settled in federal
courts almost 70 years ago, when, in Bram v. United States, 168 U.S.
532, 542 (1897), this Court held:

"In criminal trials, in the courts of the United States, wherever a
question arises whether a confession is incompetent because not
voluntary, the issue is controlled by that portion of the Fifth
Amendment . . . commanding that no person `shall be compelled in any
criminal case to be a witness against himself.'"

"To summarize, we hold that when an individual is taken into custody or
otherwise deprived of his freedom by the authorities in any significant
way and is subjected to questioning, the privilege against self-
incrimination is jeopardized. Procedural safeguards must be employed to
[384 U.S. 436, 479]   protect the privilege, and unless other fully
effective means are adopted to notify the person of his right of
silence and to assure that the exercise of the right will be
scrupulously honored, the following measures are required. He must be
warned prior to any questioning that he has the right to remain silent,
that anything he says can be used against him in a court of law, that
he has the right to the presence of an attorney, and that if he cannot
afford an attorney one will be appointed for him prior to any
questioning if he so desires. Opportunity to exercise these rights must
be afforded to him throughout the interrogation. After such warnings
have been given, and such opportunity afforded him, the individual may
knowingly and intelligently waive these rights and agree to answer
questions or make a statement. But unless and until such warnings and
waiver are demonstrated by the prosecution at trial, no evidence
obtained as a result of interrogation can be used against him. 48"


I don't even know why you are "spouting this BS". The 5th Amendment
right against self incrimination is a very simple phrase, that even the
dumbest of us can equate to how being compelled to give over your pass
phrase to the police, so they can get to evidence that may incriminate
you, is a violation of a person's right to not incriminate their self.
Liberal minded or not, it makes no difference, this issue is actually
pretty simple. The higher courts have always erred on the side of
protecting a person's 5th Amendment right against self incrimination.
Sure their are exceptions:

(1) if the case is not criminal, but civil instead, no 5th Amendment
right.

(2) if immunity is offered, this can cause a loss of a person's 5th
Amendment right.

(3) if the statement was completely voluntary, there is no protection.

(4) if the proceeding is to revoke a person's probation, the proceeding
is not deemed a "criminal proceeding", and no privilege is allowed:
Minnesota v. Murphy, 465 U.S. 420, 435 n.7 (1984)


However, in THIS case... In this specific case, none of this applies.
Furthermore, the government is not trying to compel this person to give
PHYSICAL EVIDENCE, the government is trying to compel this man's
PRIVATE THOUGHTS! Why is that pass phrase his PRIVATE THOUGHT? Because
nobody other than him has the thought of that pass phrase in their mind
(nobody that anyone in this case knows about, anyway), if they did we
would not even be having this debate!

I am not liberal at all.. Quite the contrary... However, even a guilty
person has a right and is entitled to a vigorous defense... I am a
Private Investigator, I work for the defense; that is my job. I make no
apologies for it. I do my job well. I get paid well for it, and I am
the person that gets the call in Columbia, MO. when there is an
attorney that has a client charged with a crime such as this. At this
point, I have been the ONLY Private Investigator in my locale that has
been responsible for having a similar case discontinued by the
Prosecutor due to a legal strategy that my company advised the defense
attorney to employ. I could care less if you really WANT to believe
that you are of the same mindset of some of our best and brightest
legal minds, you are certainly free to deceive yourself. To reverse the
process so that you might understand the importance of our rights, it
is held that before a person is convicted, they must be found guilty,
and if they are not found guilty, then they are innocent, and an
innocent person has legal and constitutional rights, and those rights
are held as highly important in our Judicial System.

I don't have a problem with you saying that the government should try
to "hack" the laptop, the government has that right once it is
evidence, as long as they can authenticate the evidence by court
acceptable standards if they do "hack" the laptop. Unfortunately, all
of the "hacking" and "cracking" in the world is probably not going to
do any good, if you knew anything about PGP and the history of it,
you'd know this (just Google "Phil Zimmerman";
http://tinyurl.com/2lc9zv). I think it is fair to say that the PGP
encryption is probably correctly set up, since a Secret Service Agent
with the Secret Services Computer Crimes Unit has testified that he
could not get in, and to use a random pass phrase dictionary styled
attack could take years.

But don't try to "muddy the water" on such issues as a person's 5th
amendment right, it serves no constructive purpose. I and others have
been researching this issue for months, and it was only a matter of
time before a Judge ruled like this. Anyone that has done any research
on this issue would know that. This ruling is one that many of us that
do this type of work have been expecting for a while now





Rick.




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Sue,

      Also in the interest of informing you, so you don't look too
foolish here..

      Do you even know how a PGP Pass Phrase is set up? Do you even
know where the Pass Phrase originates?

      When you set up PGP you are prompted to develop a pass phrase
(think up a pass phrase). In some of the older version of PGP you
would move your mouse around the screen to prompt the program to set
up the pass phrase after you typed it in the prompt box.

      The PGP pass phrase is thought up by, and originates in the mind
of the person that is setting up PGP. It is not assigned, it is
developed by the user (thought up by the user). It can be almost
anything. As a matter of fact, if you and I were talking face to
face, and you were to ask for mine, I could tell you what it is, and
you still would not get it right if you tried to decrypt some of my
encrypted email with it. It is a pass phrase, not a password,
although a password can be used, but the new PGP programs will rate a
single password as weak. It IS the ORIGINAL thought of the user. It
has it origins in the user's mind.... THAT is why it is considered by
most as the user's PRIVATE THOUGHTS. Unless it is written down, then
it can become a discoverable document.


Rick.


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Subject: Legal Resources Group Dispute with Bank of America



Dear Friends and Colleagues--



This is a long shot. But I'd like to have contact with anyone of you or
anyone you may know of who once opened a free-for-life account at Farmers &
Merchants Bank of Virginia, later Sovern bank, later acquired by Nations
Bank and when Nations acquired Bank of America, it retained the BOA name.



I opened such a checking account with F&M when I was a young infantry major
assigned to the Secretary of the Army's staff at the Pentagon in the 1970s.
The no-fees-for-life rocked along fine, even after the bank's change of
ownership.



I am in a dispute -- second go-round -- with BOA. A few months ago they
started charging me fees, including an $8 monthly maintenance fee plus a $3
monthly statement fee. They did it once before after the Nations-BOA merger
When I complained, BOA said the no-fees-for-life was the old bank's life,
not mine. But when I complained to the Comptroller of the Currency, the COC
ruled that the no-fees proviso was for my life, not the bank's and BOA had
to honor contracts it acquired with the acquisition of other banks.



BOA followed the COC's determination and didn't charge me any fees until
recent months. When I complained again, BOA acted like it didn't know the
past on this issue (I've taken tit to the COC again). I received a response
to my written complaint to BOA today from customer advocate in the office of
the bank's chairman in Charlotte, NC, which said simply, tough, we've
changed the rules and all previous obligations are superseded.



Ordinarily, I'd let it go since the Virginia account is 35 or so years old.
But, as some of you may know, I can be stubborn, especially when a principle
is at stake. And to me, a lifetime commitment to not charge me anything for
a bank account.



If you or anyone you know falls into my category, I'd love to here from
you/them.



Thanks for your assistance. Blessings from Dallas for a Happy New Year,





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marlinpi <djmarlin@...> wrote:
           I am in need of a Canadian PI to find an address and verify a person
is
a medical student at the University of British Columbia. I have the
person's full name and date of birth and some other helpful
information. I need this info before christmas. Please respond
privately to email djmarlin@.... Need an estimate of cost.

Jeff Marlin
Marlin's Special Investigations, Inc.
PO Box 11183
Cedar Rapids, Iowa 52410
319-373-5025
www.marlinsspecialinvestigations.com






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In a message dated 12/29/2007 3:13:57 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
SiedowAndAssociates@... writes:

They  did it once before after the Nations-BOA merger
When I complained, BOA said  the no-fees-for-When I complained, BOA said
not mine. But when I  complained to the Comptroller of the Currency, the COC
ruled that the  no-fees proviso was for my life, not the bank's and BOA had
to honor  contracts it acquired with the acquisition of other  banks.



Jack -

I strongly urge you to simply copy the original decision from the COC and
mail it to their legal staff.  The same rules should apply  I would  also advise
the legal staff that if you have to contact an attorney, you  will seek a
"class action" attorney.


Sincerely  yours,
Sue
________________________
Sue Sarkis
Sarkis Detective Agency


(est.  1976)
PI 6564
_www.sarkispi.com_ (http://www.sarkispi.com/)

1346 Ethel  Street
Glendale, CA 91207-1826
818-242-2505
818-242-9824  FAX

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Also send them a bill, late fee, and penalty for all the  research you had to
do and when they call you put them in a voicemail loop with  about 20
selections.
press one to reach me in the kitchen.
press 2 to reach me in the backyard.
  press 3 if your calling to speak to our legal  department..etc...etc.




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Author  of "The Private Investigator's Handbook"
Serving Florida since  1977
Charter member - Florida Association of Private Investigators  (FAPI)
Fapi- West region Dir.
Fapi- 2007 outstanding service  award
Former memberships- WAD, CII,Nali,Nciss,Asis,Fali,
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In a message dated 12/29/2007 7:25:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
suesarkis@... writes:





In a message dated 12/29/2007 3:13:57 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
_SiedowAndAssociatesSiedowAndA_ (mailto:SiedowAndAssociates@...)
writes:

They did it once before after the Nations-BOA merger
When I  complained, BOA said the no-fees-for-When I  complained, BOA s
not  mine. But when I complained to the Comptroller of the Currency, the  COC
ruled that the no-fees proviso was for my life, not the bank's and BOA  had
to honor contracts it acquired with the acquisition of other  banks.

Jack -

I strongly urge you to simply copy the original  decision from the COC and
mail it to their legal staff. The same rules  should apply I would also
advise
the legal staff that if you have to  contact an attorney, you will seek a
"class action" attorney.

Sincerely yours,
Sue
________________________
Sue  Sarkis
Sarkis Detective Agency

(est. 1976)
PI  6564
_www.sarkispi._www.s_http://www.sarkispihttp:_ (http://www.sarkispi.com/) )

1346 Ethel Street
Glendale, CA  91207-1826
818-242-2505
818-242-9824 FAX

"one Nation under  God"

If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you can read it in  English, thank
a military veteran !

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Hi!  I am new to the group, and am interested in the field of
investigation, and want to learn more about various investigative
techniques, informational resources, etc.

A friend of mine was able to find out some interesting personal things
about me, and they said they were using some sort of SOFTWARE, but
would not tell me what it was exactly.  I asked if they were on some
website getting the info, and they said no, it was some software that a
friend had downloaded onto their computer.  I Googled detective
software and most of what I found was Net Detective; however, I also
found a lot of negative opinions about it.

Is there any software (OR websites, for that matter) that can find more
information than, say People Search on Intelius.com or People Finder on
MelissaData.com (both of which I've used before)??

Thanks!!
Fred

I need a referral to a PI in Cabo San Lucas for an infidelity case that
should cover 3-8 Jan. Please contact me direct at
michaeljwest@... with contact information.



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