I'm independent at the moment... fiercely so. While I am somewhat aligned with a smallish group in Arizona, it is nothing official and more along the lines of...
I hear that! ..and perhaps that's just the way I should put it in the future as it pretty well sums up my feelings. So thank you for that. My desire to join...
Well, that saying is on Ogden's grave stone. We have a website for books, etc. www.ogdenkraut.com Bev ... the future as it ... enjoy the ... that I believe...
Hi all, I've had some good input about the campout from the website and a personal e-mail, but I would like to have an open discussion about it. I realize we...
Hi, I'm a new member here. Name is Steve and I am a member of the LDS Church and have been studying the changes to the Church for the last few years. I am...
There are two types of independent fundamentalists. Some don't believe there is authority here. They believe it is with an indian prophet in Mexico, so they...
Then you have the ones that don't hold to the Adam-God doctrine - that would be us :-) BTW - I think is was a great idea for a forum. Thanks! Cheers! Sage...
I guess a sort of setting in order took place on this continent with the resurrected Savior's visit. It is interesting to me that one of the first things He...
LOL Steve. My brain was not that awake this morning :-) I made the statement more out of the hope that it is not aasumed that everyone living plural marriage...
It is nice to have a forum where raging debates are the exception. Just curious why you felt that way about A-G. Steve ... - that ... indian ... order ... ...
I think you could be safe right now with just the few in this forum. I am curious what the arguements against A/G doctrine are from someone that is not...
Just some thoughts here...... D&C section 29. Who is talking? Who made who? D&C 29 1 Listen to the voice of Jesus Christ, your Redeemer, the Great I AM, whose...
Something to research and think about. Thank you. Bev ... AM, ... unto ... agreed. ... was ... your ... himself; ... nor ... from ... succession. ... gave ......
Bev Hi there. Would stop by at http://www.4thefamily.us I would like to link back and forth from 4thefamily to ogdenkraut.com under each web pages Links...
I haven't made it to the History of the Church quotes yet, but I have read and re-read many times Section 29 of the D&C. At first, by just reading the verses...
Oops! I meant to say He can't be Jesus Christ and have the "Only Begotten" be His,can He? I got some scritures now so I can quote the exact verse... D&C...
A savior from a given earth goes on to become a Jehovah. It is a role of the first born in any heavenly family to be a savior of that earth and to perpetuate...
8 members in less than a week. I'm impressed. I see from the list of members that I have friends here. As some of you know, I trace keys to Ross LeBaron....
Bev Goodmorning. I am on my way out the door, but just a quick thought here. The church, I do believe, teaches that Jesus Christ was the God of the Old...
... Sponge: It is my understanding that Jesus Christ and the great Jehovah are two different people. Unlike what the LDS church currently teaches, I do not...
I don't know why your old message doesn't appear in this reply, Sponge, but I believe that's the conclusion I'm coming to. But I still have yet to know all...
Sounds like an interesting come around. Are you the one in San Diego that was on the Mormon Polygamy group, or was that Billy saying that. If not, where are...
I'm aware of Orson Pratt's disbelief in the A/G doctrine, but I didn't know his arguements. That would be a great book to get, I think. I still don't know...
Bev I was thumbing through the book this morning before I got up. I would recommend getting it if for nothing more it offers insight in to many different...
Yeah, need to get it. Do you know where I can buy it? In D&C29 - who is talking when stated "even your ... At the first glance, it sounds like Jesus Christ,...
I have some revelations on the Adam God doctrine in a book that have proven to be very helpful for me and I believe to be true. However, I respect the goal of...
