Greetings!

         I started over, so ignore the other web page...this is the new
address:


          http://members.tripod.com/~Illuminati_onelist/index.html

Please take a look at this site and let me know what you think so
far...I need a few more days to get the rest of it going, but please let
me know if you like it, hate it, or want to help with it!

Always,

Marrah

>Moving from California to Kentucky had seemed like a good idea at the
>time.  The old white house on Walnut Street was a bargain by California
>standards. My wife and I had purchased it without hesitation.  It
seemed
>like the ideal place for us: roomy, with an old apple tree in the
>backyard. Two towering oaks stood sentinel in the spacious front
>yard.  The house had stood there for years--a rambling old house

So you felt comfortable there. Good sign.

>First of all, there were hundreds of nails pounded into the walls of
the
>house.  Because of the odd locations of the nails, I knew they weren't
>there to hang pictures. Also, there were strange chalk markings on the
>doors and windowsills.

   this sounds like a protection spell to me. to word off evil.


>.  Apparently, she had been somewhat of a recluse.
>.  Perhaps, she was
>just eccentric.  Certainly, everyone has the right not to be sociable;
but
>for those of you who are familiar with southern life, to be unsociable
in
>the south is to be somewhat suspect; especially, in small southern
towns
>where everyone's personal business is subject to public scrutiny.

Do I know this one!! I use to live in New Orleans Uptown. Dont go city
because anyone in New Orleans know this is not true. you may be walking
by million dollor houses and two blocks later your in the deepest
poorest part of town. it's everywere!! I know about a lot of this I use
to be called upon by friends to 'clean' there houses all house down
south are haunted. in one way or another. yes I was at first scrutinised
untill they found out I was not voodoo. for i did not hide.


>The people of the Jackson Purchase country are predominantly of
>Scots-Irish and English descent. still enjoys regaling the family
>with stories--tales of haunts, ghosts, and strange
>happenings.  Perhaps, second sight, or psychic ability, is inherited
and
>passed down from generation to generation.  All I know is that both the
>belief in the supernatural and psychic phenomena is very much an
integral
>part of southern traditions and customs

Im Scotish my grandfather was from Scotland. I know what you mean I was
rased with old men talking of the hunderd year was (back in the 1300's)
as if were yesterday!

>  She wasn't an evil figure.
>They felt that she was their guardian.  But, of course, the question
is,
>she was guarding them from what?

Good question...It could be a number of things but it was what against
what she put the words up for in the fist place.

>  But I am convinced that houses do seem to retain
>a psychic residue from their owners.

  Yes it dose, but they can hold much more then just residue.



          May the Midnight sun always shine Upon you!
                            Arkangel

first of all, your right...there are tons of stories in the south like
that.  I live in alabama and i have heard thousands.  From voodoo to
druidity, vampires to ghosts, demons and angels.  Its so deeply rooted
in southern culture that its hard *not* to hear these stories...

as for this particular story, what were the chalk markings? were they
symbols or did they simply outline the doors and windows?  just from
the initial reading it sounds like a necromantic ritual...i dont
understand the nails though.  Ill have to do some research and reply
again later. in the meantime, if anyone else knows what theyre for or
has another theory on the chalk marks...please let me know, i love to
try to figure these things out.

love & slack,            xaph

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 12:07:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: William Hugh Tunstall <tunstall@...>
To: tunstall@...
Subject: The house in Kentucky


Moving from California to Kentucky had seemed like a good idea at the
time.  The old white house on Walnut Street was a bargain by California
standards. My wife and I had purchased it without hesitation.  It seemed
like the ideal place for us: roomy, with an old apple tree in the
backyard. Two towering oaks stood sentinel in the spacious front
yard.  The house had stood there for years--a rambling old house, in a
quiet neighborhood in Mayfield, Kentucky, a sleepy little Southern town.

For many of the people living in the Jackson Purchase region of Kentucky,
that odd little corner of the state which is sandwiched between the Ohio,
Mississippi and Tennessee rivers, the past few years haven't been so good.
The tobacco farmers are still making money, but the industry is dying.
The textile mills--once the mainstay of the local economy--have closed
down. Only the old people, the working poor and the most affluent of
families stay on. The town's  young people tend to head off to Nashville
or Atlanta in search of better job opportunities.

But we were happy in our Kentucky house. I was busy completing my
degree at the local university, while my wife and children were busy
making friends with the people in the neighborhood.

But from the outset, there was something strange about our new home.
First of all, there were hundreds of nails pounded into the walls of the
house.  Because of the odd locations of the nails, I knew they weren't
there to hang pictures. Also, there were strange chalk markings on the
doors and windowsills. Curious, I asked the neighbors about the former
tenant or tenants.  They told me that an old lady had once lived in the
place.
Although they were reluctant to talk about her, I pressed them further
with questions.  Apparently, she had been somewhat of a recluse.
Anti-social and unfriendly, the old lady kept to herself, wandering
through the house at all hours of the day and night.  Perhaps, she was
just eccentric.  Certainly, everyone has the right not to be sociable; but
for those of you who are familiar with southern life, to be unsociable in
the south is to be somewhat suspect; especially, in small southern towns
where everyone's personal business is subject to public scrutiny.  The
former owner of the house was reputed to have been a witch.

The people of the Jackson Purchase country are predominantly of
Scots-Irish and English descent.  My mother, who is part-Cherokee and
part Scots-Irish, a native Kentuckian, still enjoys regaling the family
with stories--tales of haunts, ghosts, and strange
happenings.  Perhaps, second sight, or psychic ability, is inherited and
passed down from generation to generation.  All I know is that both the
belief in the supernatural and psychic phenomena is very much an integral
part of southern traditions and customs.  And, for those of you who are
familiar with the south, once one has ventured out of the urban centers of
the New South, much of the aura and mystery of the old south is still
there, on the little backcountry roads and in little out of the way
places, waiting to be encountered.

Our new house was definitely haunted.  My children dreamed of an old lady
who would walk through the house at night.  She wasn't an evil figure.
They felt that she was their guardian.  But, of course, the question is,
she was guarding them from what?

Although our house did not experience anything "untoward," as they say in
Kentucky, while living there, I never had the feeling that we were ever
truly alone.  We always sensed the old lady's presence.  As long as we
were respectful to her, we seemed to be welcome tenants.  One July day,
while out washing the car, I looked up at one of the second floor windows.
For a fleeting moment, a grey face appeared at the window.  The room was a
room which we used for storage.  Neither my wife nor I ever felt
comfortable whenever we walked into that particular room.  Somehow, we
knew that that was "her" room.

Eventually, we left the state.  I was never able to find out why the house
was studded with so many nails.  And the markings within the house still
remain a mystery to me.  But I am convinced that houses do seem to retain
a psychic residue from their owners.

from William Tunstall

In answer to your poll question:

I'm a Unitarian Universalist.  (vegetarian/goddess worship/practitioner of
ahimsa: nonviolence)

"..come on people now, smile on your brother
    everybody get to together try to love one another
    right now..."
                     an old song from my generation

Hi list....this is my first post.
  About the poll question:

  I suppose I am a heretic as well, Christian yet following the old ways of
Christian Magic which the Catholics abhorred.  There is a name for my brand of
heresy but I can't remember it off of the top of my head...we used to get
called Christian witches....

  Mina

On Fri, 10 Jul 1998, Scott Covey wrote:

> follow the typical patriarchal control, and enforcement of non thinking,
> non questioning, elitism. Willing to field the questions and the flak.
> Remember to stay polite and so will I. To affix a label if I have to; it
> would be Christian. But, non conforming.

Cool. Another heretic. :)

Sarah

"...What have we given?
My friend, blood shaking my heart
The awful daring of a moment's surrender,
Which an age of prudence can never retract
By this, and only this, we have existed..." T.S. Eliot

To answer your poll question re: Religion

I practice a Non Conforming belief. Not conforming in that it doesn't
follow the typical patriarchal control, and enforcement of non thinking,
non questioning, elitism. Willing to field the questions and the flak.
Remember to stay polite and so will I. To affix a label if I have to; it
would be Christian. But, non conforming.

Captain
An unhappy viable existence is an unmotivated vessel.

Greetings Everyone,

           Here are the results of this weeks poll question.

        "Do you practice a religion? If so, what do ou call it?"

Results:

           Yes     = 8           No     =  1

           Hari Krishna                 =  1
           Pagan                        =  2
           Nonconformist                =  1
           Christian                    =  2
           harism                       =  1
           Unitarian Christian heritic  =  1
----------------------------------------------------------------------


Thanks for all your great responses, guys!  There will be one poll
question per week given on Monday. Results will be given evry Friday.
Please submit questions if you have them. Have a great weekend!

Always,

Marrah

On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Bern300 wrote:

>               Do you practice a religion? If so, what do you call it?

I'm a Unitarian Christian who also happenes to be a vampire and a witch.
For some reason, other Christians have a hard time with that. Although
nobody has actually used the old fashioned term "heretic" to describe me
yet (rather disappointing, that - I like the term "heretic")

Sarah

"...What have we given?
My friend, blood shaking my heart
The awful daring of a moment's surrender,
Which an age of prudence can never retract
By this, and only this, we have existed..." T.S. Eliot

Gotta love a to the point gal *smiles*


>>Yes,   Christian
>
>Brandi
>
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>    An army of editors surfing the web for you!
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>

Do you pratice religion?

Yes

Hari Krishna

I am but an indescriminate paegan, my sweet.

Pen

>
>From: "Maura Tremayne" <illuminati_reque@...>
>
>Greetings!
>
>
>    Our poll question for the week is:
>
>
>             Do you practice a religion? If so, what do you call it?
>
>                (Ex. Christian, Muslim, Wiccan, Pagan, Nonconformist)
>

    hummmmm, I guess that would make me a Nonconformist
                  Ark

In a message dated 98-07-09 15:42:18 EDT, you write:

<< Do you practice a religion? If so, what do you call it? >>


Yes,   Christian

Brandi

Greetings Everyone!


         Now is the TIME!  Anyone interested in working on the list
webpage PLEASE let me know soon...I worked on it for a while today but
I'm really new at this and I could use all the help I can get!

the sites right now are:

                 http://members.tripod.com/~maura_t/index.html
                              and
                 http://members.tripod.com/~maura_t/index-2.html

So check them out, send suggestions, I'll be putting up posts and stuff
from the list and other things tomorrow.  And anyone who wants to
help...thanks!

Always,

Marrah

>              Do you practice a religion? If so, what do you call it?
>
>                 (Ex. Christian, Muslim, Wiccan, Pagan, Nonconformist)

pagan....but alot of my belief is based in wicca and druidic practice

In a message dated 98-07-09 15:42:57 EDT, you write:

<< Greetings!


      Our poll question for the week is:


               Do you practice a religion? If so, what do you call it?
No.  I don't practice any religion.

                  (Ex. Christian, Muslim, Wiccan, Pagan, Nonconformist)

Bernadette
Bern300@...

marrah says i'm pagan...i used to just call it 'harism', after my name.

Aedan

>Greetings!
>
>
>    Our poll question for the week is:
>
>
>             Do you practice a religion? If so, what do you call it?
>
>                (Ex. Christian, Muslim, Wiccan, Pagan, Nonconformist)
>
>
>        Always,
>
>          Marrah


Of course I practice a religion. It's called "Things i do on sunday."
Now, i do not necessarily do this every sunday. Sometimes i sleep in. I
go to church, sure. I know that's becoming less and less (or at least
not going to church was the fad last year) but I've never been one to
follow the crowd and i'm not going to start now.
So there ya have it.



RaiVen.

In a message dated 7/9/98 1:42:54 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
illuminati_reque@... writes:

> Do you practice a religion? If so, what do you call it?
>
>                  (Ex. Christian, Muslim, Wiccan, Pagan, Nonconformist

Depends on what you mean by "practice".  I used to be Wicca.  Now, I guess,
I'm a lazy pantheist. <g>

--Ex Vamp

Greetings!


     Our poll question for the week is:


              Do you practice a religion? If so, what do you call it?

                 (Ex. Christian, Muslim, Wiccan, Pagan, Nonconformist)


         Always,

           Marrah

More fun facts!  Did you know...

----------------------------------------------------------------------
How to Spot a Vampire?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
1. To find out if a vampire is living in a particular cemetery, first
choose a child young enough to be a virgin. Seat the child on a virgin
horse of solid color (white is preferred) that has never stumbled. Lead
the horse through tthe cemetery, passing over all the graves. If the
horse refuses to pass over a particular grave, a vampire is lying there.

<Or there is a snake close by>

2. At night in a cemetery, look for a bluish flame glowing above the
vampire's grave. This blue glow represents the vampire's soul.

<Or someone left the Samhain fire burning>

3. Also in the cemetery, look for graves with holes in them, or graves
sporting crooked crosses or tombstones. This is vampire territory.

<Or the cemetery has an animal infestation, imagine THAT>

4. Ask someone who was born on a Saturday to check out anyone you are
wondering about. People born on this day of the week can tell vampires
just by looking at them.

<Or they can just look for people in black clothes, right?>

5. Dig up the body of the suspected vampire and check for suspicious
lack of decay, bloodstains around the mouth, open eyes, or extra-long
fingernails. Note that according to a present-day source, novelist
Stephen King, a vampire, unlike someone who happens to be alive but has
chosen to fall asleep in a coffin, will have a blood pressure reading of
zero over zero.

<Is this before or after the vampire goes kablooey in the sunlight?>

6. Be suspicious of someone who wears only black, looks as if he has
(literally) never seen the sun, and refuses to eat garlic. (Don't count
too much on this last sign, however, in light of reports that some
modern vampires actually enjoy garlic immensely.)

<duh...what'd I tell ya?>


Always and Eternally,

Marrah
Your listowner
and
Keeper of Knowledge

"There are more things in Heaven and Hell than are dreamt
of in your philosophy, Horatio"

"What could death do, if thou should'st depart,
  Leaving the living in posterity?
  Be not self-will'd, for thou art much too fair
  To be death's conquest and make worms thein heir."
                               -William Shakespeare

       """"""""
     """"""""""""      "These are the Night's gaunt riders,
   ""( ~      ~ )""     And all their names are Fear:
   "" <O>    <O> ""     Fear of Life, Fear of Death,
   "(            )"     Fear of Hate, Fear of Love.
   ""      }     ""     They ride the black night circuit,
  """ \        / """    girding round ever round, stopping
"""""" V\__/V """""    for nothing except to pound long
"""""" \____/ """""    The stone drums of Eternity"
"""""       """"""       - Constance Golden Sontag

Greetings Everyone!

Here are the results of the Trivia Contest as of 10pm, Sunday Night:

              KarlynAshe     3pts     for: #27
                             2pts          Bonus   =   5pts
              Arkangel       3pts          #2
                             3pts          #26
                             3pts          #29     =   9pts
              Scott          3pts          #5
                             3pts          #7
                             3pts          #8      =   9pts
              Ex-Vamp        3pts          #1
                             3pts          #6
                             3pts          #10     =   9pts

______________________________________________________________________


Okay folks...the contest continues.  One major point, you only get to
answer *THREE* questions at a time.  THen you ask three or two or one in
return! I took the first three you answered correctly as your current
points. Anyone else who would like to jump in, feel free :)  I will give
the results as they come in.  The contest will officially end on Friday,
so keep those answers and questions coming!


----------------------------------------------------------------------

One note: I haven't recieved Questionares from these people:

              j21EGA, cdsmith, scott_covey, idigbuffy, lemar,
              twiggylover, vamphryi, arkangel, aliera, xaph, viovad


If your name is on this list and you sent one, please let me know. If
you do not want it posted to the list, please send it to me directly so
I can keep a record of who, what and where we are on here :) If you feel
that the questionare is just to form fitting, please just send us (or
me) a brief paragraph introducing yourself, where your're from, etc...

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Okay...I think that's it for this post.  Some fun stuff to follow
shortly!  Thanks Everyone, for making this so much fun an dhopefully,
informative :)








Always and Eternally,

Marrah
Your listowner
and
Keeper of Knowledge

"There are more things in Heaven and Hell than are dreamt
of in your philosophy, Horatio"

"What could death do, if thou should'st depart,
  Leaving the living in posterity?
  Be not self-will'd, for thou art much too fair
  To be death's conquest and make worms thein heir."
                               -William Shakespeare

       """"""""
     """"""""""""      "These are the Night's gaunt riders,
   ""( ~      ~ )""     And all their names are Fear:
   "" <O>    <O> ""     Fear of Life, Fear of Death,
   "(            )"     Fear of Hate, Fear of Love.
   ""      }     ""     They ride the black night circuit,
  """ \        / """    girding round ever round, stopping
"""""" V\__/V """""    for nothing except to pound long
"""""" \____/ """""    The stone drums of Eternity"
"""""       """"""       - Constance Golden Sontag

Greetings Again!

Back with some fun facts...I have compiled a list of 45 different names
dealing with vampires from all countries, etc. I am constantly updating
this list, so if you know of some that are not here, please share your
brilliance with the rest of us and post them.

Without further ado, here they are:

Babylonia >   ekimmu
India >       kali
Russia >      upyr, upiry, eretica
Czech Rep >   upir
Bosnia >      lampir
Burma >       swawmx
Araby >       algul
Iceland >     fylgia
China >       chang kuei, chiang-shih, giang shi
Mexico >      hahuelpuchi
Scandinavia > mara
Magyar dia >  vampire
Phillipines > aswang manananggal
Dalmatia >    kozlak
Malaysia >    langsuir, polong
Albania >     kukudhi
Brazil >      jaracacus
Bulgaria >    ubour
Japan >       hannya
Balkans >     bibi
Hungary >     liderc nadaly
Australia >   mrart, yara-ma-yha-who
No. Europe >  vampyr
Ireland >     leanhaum sidhe
Germany >     neuntoter, nachzehrer, blutsauger
Gypsy >       mullo, mulo
Romania >     vamphyri, nosferatu, strigoi, moroi
Sanskrit >    baital
East Africa > impundulu
Africa >      asanbosam, obayito
Greece >      vrylolakas
Arabian >     afrit
Surinam >     azeman
West Indes >  loogaroo
Peru >        pumapmicuc

So there you you have it  ...  Why is the vampire *myth* so prevalent?
Why does every culture have one, or two, or three? Could it be?

                     Are we really out there??



Always and Eternally,

Marrah
Your listowner
and
Keeper of Knowledge

"There are more things in Heaven and Hell than are dreamt
of in your philosophy, Horatio"

"What could death do, if thou should'st depart,
  Leaving the living in posterity?
  Be not self-will'd, for thou art much too fair
  To be death's conquest and make worms thein heir."
                               -William Shakespeare

       """"""""
     """"""""""""      "These are the Night's gaunt riders,
   ""( ~      ~ )""     And all their names are Fear:
   "" <O>    <O> ""     Fear of Life, Fear of Death,
   "(            )"     Fear of Hate, Fear of Love.
   ""      }     ""     They ride the black night circuit,
  """ \        / """    girding round ever round, stopping
"""""" V\__/V """""    for nothing except to pound long
"""""" \____/ """""    The stone drums of Eternity"
"""""       """"""       - Constance Golden Sontag

Screen Name: Raven 1
Real Name: William
Hood: Fargo (no. no one up here really speaks like they do in the movie!)
School: North Dakota State University; Sonoma State University (Ca)
Occupation: English graduate teaching assistant
Favorite Movie: Wuthering Heights, Maltese Falcon, Pride and Prejudice,
Mystery of Rampo, Pride and Prejudice, Braveheart, anything with Tim Roth
in it
Favorite TV Shows: X Files, Millenium, Kojack Files (campy fun), PBS
Mystery Theater
Favorite Music: Andrea Bocelli, Sarah Brightman, Sinead O'Connor,
classical, rock, alternative, celtic
Favorite fictional characters: Hercule Poirot (he looks like a cute little
penguin), Sam Spade, Carmilla (Le Fanu's vampish lady..I wouldn't mind her
taking a bite out of me), Ambrosio (in Lewis's The Monk)
Favorite actors/actresses: Pacino, Tim Roth, Bogart, Sydney Greenstreet,
Vincent Price (a ham..but I love him), Jeremy Britt, Peter Duchet, John
Hurd; actresses: Helen Mirren, Isabelle Adjani (lovely, vampish lady),
Lindsay Wagner, Juliette Binochet, Catherine Denueve
I collect: books (gothic literature, supernatural/horror/fantasy/weird
phenomena)
I became interested in vampires because: I believe they exist.
I am most interested in this aspect of vampires: their appeal
My favorite vampire characters: Carmilla, Count Dracula, Bunnicula (he's
cute, isn't he?), the three vamps in Stoker's novel (they're hot),
Polidori's Vampyre (Lord Ruthven- he has style).
My favorite vampire movie: I'm fond of the old 30's classic (Lugosi's
portrayal).  But I think Dark Shadows (the old tv series) was an
especially fine portrayal.
What I want out of life: wisdom (escape bad karma)
My motto is: Compassion....always compassion
Other things I want you to know about me: I'm researching minor female
Gothic novelists of the late eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries
this summer. I'm a vegetarian/animal lover/ Gothicist (enthusiastic about
Gothic literature-Walpole,Radcliffe, Mary Shelley, Lewis..and the
supernatural horror fiction of the nineteenth century-Collins, Le Fanu,
Algernon Blackwood, Arthur Machen, Mary Braddon,etc.) Also, I'm interested
in supernatural/psychic phenomena.. I've had my share.
I'm married and blessed with three beautiful children who love animals,
poetry, literature, nature.
Other interests: British history/civilization. Celtic
myths/legends/religious beliefs/ reincarnation/out of body
travel/meditation.. I speak some Spanish and French.  I'm left handed,
a sure sign of witchery, no doubt...

I want to learn Italian so that I can understand the lyrics to Andrea
Bocelli's love songs.  I want to eventually travel to northern England to
see the ancestral castle of my family (Thurland)...
whew!  I hope that covers it!  My best wishes to everyone on the list.

On Sat, 4 Jul 1998, joshua willis wrote:

> now, as i stated before, there are serial killers who have been above
> average intelligence....average intelligence has nothing to do with
> cleaning up after yourself and not getting caught.  some of the
> smartest people i know would get picked up after one instance like
> that...the fact is, vampires would logically have just as much of a
> chance to get caught as anyone...however, if *you* were an detective
> in a case of vampiric serial killers...and *you* found your suspect to
> be legit...would *YOU* have the balls to fuck with him?

As you stated before, vampires kill to survive.  I do not think that
vampires have just as much chance to get caught as anyone, simply because
they have this experience of beeing always murdering people, attacking
them and hiding.  This is their way of "living".

They are in a permanent state of illegallity, and are used to this
situation.



> > difficult to disguise that a body has been drained of blood--but
> only if the
> > body is found soon after death.
> hiding a lack of blood in the body isnt as difficult as you would
> think...with a little creativity and the right tools, you could very
> simply take care of the body in a way that would avoid any chance of
> anyone even noticing that the body was drained of blood.  choice
> chemicals...burning at abnormally high conditions...and sure, these
> things would take the tools of a chemist or steel worker or
> sumthing...but give me a break, if you just murdered someone, i would
> think that breaking and entering is the least of your worries

Well, I think Maura is right. Even if it is technically possible to hide
the fact that the body was drained of blood, this is certainly not easy to
do. But... If the vampire simply drains the blood without killing the
victim ?

If the victim is not turned itself into a vampire then this is a
witness.  If the victim cannot remember what exactly happenned, there is
still the mark of the bite.

The vampire could make the victim become another vampire. This seems to me
the more unnoticeable way.


On Sun, 5 Jul 1998 13:57:16 EDT, ExVamp@... wrote:

> No, they don't--and that's the point.  Most serial killers fall into a
> pattern.  Intelligence is one thing, common sense is another.  If we
> bless our vampyr killers with a fair dose of common sense as well as
> intelligence, and no motivation to fall into a pattern, their chances of
> ever being caught are negligible.

Hum, would you say that a psychotic that behaves like a vampire to kill
its victims does not fall into a pattern ?

The vampire's pattern is,... well a vampire pattern

The difference between the two killers is that the first one has
psychological problems. The second must kill for sustenance, he is simply
a human predator, but it certainly falls into this pattern.


N.B. : I confess that my knowledge on vampires is not very good. Too bad
for the Quizz, but hey ! I knew a couple of things about Bela Lugosi and
the meaning of Dracula.


----------------------------------
TARDIS Elanoel - tardis@...

On Thu, 2 Jul 1998, Maura Tremayne wrote:

> >That's funny. Well the irritating person may be morally responsible,
> >not legally.
>
> You missed most of the joke, didn't you?

Not really. That was my reaction as a lawyer (I know, I work too much ;-)


----------------------------------
TARDIS Elanoel - tardis@...

In a message dated 7/4/98 1:40:34 PM Mountain Daylight Time, xaph_@...
writes:

> > If any serial killers followed this pattern, how would they EVER be
>  > discovered?
>  damn good question...but, most serial killers do that.  (dont they?)
>

No, they don't--and that's the point.  Most serial killers fall into a
pattern.  Intelligence is one thing, common sense is another.  If we bless our
vampyr killers with a fair dose of common sense as well as intelligence, and
no motivation to fall into a pattern, their chances of ever being caught are
negligible.

--Ex Vamp

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