To Moody: I'm in part 3 (Eros) now, and it truly is an amazing book, Moody. It's implications seem quite un-Nietzschean, though (though also very ...
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sauwelios
Feb 6, 2009 1:28 pm
The first idea I need to introduce is the death of Christian morality. "The end of Christianity---at the hands of its own morality (which cannot be replaced),...
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Toni Ciopa
hyperborean
Feb 6, 2009 6:40 pm
If there were a reason to be truthful, then truthfulness would not arise from my Will, but from something external to it. A man is truthful only because he can...
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sauwelios
Feb 6, 2009 8:38 pm
The will (to power!) is teleological. I do agree that *teloi* must be posited by a will; if one pursues teloi posited by another will than one's own, one is a...
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sauwelios
Feb 8, 2009 5:34 pm
If this is the only comment I'm going to get, I think I should cherish it. I will therefore criticise it again. Why seek truth unconditionally? The phrase...
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pleaseherpleasehim
pleaseherple...
Feb 9, 2009 6:27 pm
The charm of knowledge would be small if so much shame did not have to be overcome on the road to it. BGE 65 Guilt is for the introvert and shame is for the...
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sauwelios
Feb 9, 2009 6:44 pm
... to be overcome ... But what when all shame has been overcome? (A situation Nietzsche envisioned: "*What is the seal of attained freedom?*---Not to be ...
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moodylawless
Feb 11, 2009 2:12 pm
Isn't part two Eros? Anyway, I'm very near the end now, and have found the book to be a stimulating journey. Brown seems to take Nietzsche's 'findings' and...
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pleaseherpleasehim
pleaseherple...
Feb 11, 2009 4:56 pm
... That's when the extrovert overcomes his feminine subjectivity and begins to incorporate masculine subjectivity in an active way as opposed to the passive...
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sauwelios
Feb 13, 2009 1:24 pm
... begins to incorporate ... individuation which ... an intellectual ... change appearing but a ... Let me put it differently. When all shame has been...
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pleaseherpleasehim
pleaseherple...
Feb 13, 2009 5:08 pm
... Individually, I can't say what will happen. But, if at some point, the overcoming of shame becomes the rule (as a group event) then it will carry no...
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perpetualburn30298
perpetualbur...
Feb 13, 2009 6:34 pm
... believing that everyone ... is concerned with power ... so with Nietzsche. By the ... one can sense that this ... ignored. And, being ... crazy and wrote...
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sauwelios
Feb 13, 2009 8:11 pm
... In Freud, "sexual" does not mean "sexual"... I'd say it means "sensual". ... That's what he was referring to: for Nietzsche, the realisation of this...
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sauwelios
Feb 13, 2009 9:15 pm
... arise from my Will, but from something external to it. A man is truthful only because he can will it and few men are capable of that. ... There are broadly...
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perpetualburn30298
perpetualbur...
Feb 13, 2009 11:14 pm
... Well, I apologize for speaking too soon. I guess what I do not understand, and maybe pleaseherpleasehim can help, is how, psychologically speaking,...
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pleaseherpleasehim
pleaseherple...
Feb 14, 2009 4:49 am
Just consider the modesty with which Nietzsche can usually approach himself "A philosopher- is a human being who constantly experiences, sees, hears, suspects,...
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sauwelios
Feb 14, 2009 7:46 pm
"the unsatisfied sexuality apparent in his insane letters." The problem with formulations like this is that they invite misinterpretation. The phrase...
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T. Christoper Pederson
pleaseherple...
Feb 14, 2009 9:51 pm
... One way of understanding what Nietzsche calls spirit and self-overcoming is related to how much you can suffer. Leaving yourself open to suffering also...
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ubermensch1975
Feb 14, 2009 11:11 pm
I haven't read the entire thread so don't know the course of the conversation, but I see the last two posts which concern Nietzsche's sexuality. I thought I...
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perpetualburn30298
perpetualbur...
Feb 15, 2009 6:08 pm
... self-overcoming is related to how much you can suffer. Leaving yourself open to suffering also implies leaving yourself open to joy. People who aren't...
... sexual sophistication and sexual maturity is how Lowen would describe this. An intellectual understanding of Freud or sexuality (sexual sophistication)...
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sauwelios
Feb 16, 2009 2:06 pm
I want to go into two remarks made by Mr. Pederson (pleaseherpleasehim): 1. "Look at his view on the intellectual conscience. His error is always believing...
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sauwelios
Feb 16, 2009 4:12 pm
I wonder if anyone else thinks I'm on to something here. Anyway, I wanted to add two insights, an old one and a new one. "[W]hat a *miscarriage of falseness*...
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ubermensch1975
Feb 16, 2009 4:30 pm
"sexual sophistication and sexual maturity is how Lowen would describe this. An intellectual understanding of Freud or sexuality (sexual sophistication) does...
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ubermensch1975
Feb 17, 2009 3:13 pm
"One doesn't study eros but instead the resistances which lead to where eros is blocked. The unconscious is apparent in character armour which shows up in...
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ubermensch1975
Feb 19, 2009 10:38 pm
...and then there was silence. [ taps on desk ]...
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pleaseherpleasehim
pleaseherple...
Feb 20, 2009 12:04 am
I'll respond soon. I have a couple of deadlines to meet this weekend....
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patriarchy_lives
patriarchy_l...
Feb 20, 2009 5:26 pm
... I think you've located a fatal problem in Nietzsche. First, the meaning of the earth is moved away from now and into the vague future. Second, as long as...
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sauwelios
Feb 20, 2009 9:14 pm
... self-overcoming is related to how much you can suffer. Leaving yourself open to suffering also implies leaving yourself open to joy. People who aren't...
