What is everybody"s opinion about LED lighting and any recommendation
where to buy it in Houston?

Thank you.

Raymond

----- Original Message -----

From: evelyn sardina

To: hreg

Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:03 PM

Subject: [hreg] Fwd: Re: I guess I should ask........

I know that the subject of radioactivity has been covered before on this forum.  Does anyone want to respond to this question though?

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From: T L J

To: hreg@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 10:33 AM

Subject: Re: [hreg] LED Lights

Raymond -

I'm a huge fan of LED lights, but as far as a local store, very unlikely to find them.

Good resource on the web however, try:

http://www.besthomeledlighting.com/

I haven't ordered from them yet, but the products look easy to install (most utilize standard screw-in).  The track lights look especially promising - they use Cree's newest bright LEDs, so instead of a nested array, is simply a single ultrabright LED.

Let me know if you have any luck with a local supplier.

----- Original Message ----
From: ajsinits <ajsinits@yahoo.com>
To: hreg@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 10:14:49 PM
Subject: [hreg] LED Lights

What is everybody"s opinion about LED lighting and any recommendation
where to buy it in Houston?

Thank you.

Raymond

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There's a local company, Stagelight (www.stagelight.com, 713-942-0555) that
sells some architectural LED lights. Their focus, as their name implies, is
on stage (theatrical) lighting, but they'll work with you.

Paul

Disclaimer: my wife works for the company.


8:33am, T L J wrote:

> Raymond -
>
> I'm a huge fan of LED lights, but as far as a local store, very unlikely to
find them.
>
> Good resource on the web however, try:
>
> http://www.besthomeledlighting.com/
>
> I haven't ordered from them yet, but the products look easy to install (most
utilize standard screw-in).  The track lights look especially promising - they
use Cree's newest bright LEDs, so instead of a nested array, is simply a single
ultrabright LED.
>
> Let me know if you have any luck with a local supplier.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: ajsinits <ajsinits@...>
> To: hreg@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 10:14:49 PM
> Subject: [hreg] LED Lights
>
>
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>
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>            What is everybody"s opinion about LED lighting and any
recommendation
>
> where to buy it in Houston?
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
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> Raymond
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I heard the same program on NPR about French storing such waste based on laws which were enacted under complete secrecy so that people will not express their opposition against such action. Man is blindly following the "SCIENTISTS," many of whom have been proven wrong about Earth Warming, and many other phenomenon based on "Models" and neglecting many variables. Recently, the false prophets have invented a new technique called "Risk Analysis" completely based on Statistical laws. And we all know what Benjamin Disraeli said about Lies: "Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics."

Earth quakes are a reality, and no matter what assumtions the proponents of disposal of radioactive waste might say, this waste will creep through the "CLAY" which is considered as strog as porcelain (which it is not). It will take relatively longer time, but sure enough it will get through tiny pores, eventually polluting the water table. Once that happens and people or animals drink water contaminated with highly radioactice waste by-products (some of these have a half-life of the order of billions of years) the occurrence of cancer and tumors will increase and many innocent people will die. But then those who decided burying the waste would have been forgotten. But remember, there is an ultimate Judgement by God that these people will face for deceiving their own people just because of Greed. Just see the pictures of victims and fetuses affected by Depleted Uranium and you can figure out the damage. After the Manhattan Project, the scientists at Los Alamos Labs injected Plutoium in terminal patients without their consent or letting their dear ones know about their actions. During Clinton's first term, his Secertary of Energy, Hazel O'Leary declassified lots of documents from that era (including those from Los Alamos Labs) and a book "Plutonium Files" was published to publicize this crime against humanity which ware not less than what the Nazis did during the World Wars. Those of us who have the training in this subject know quite well the hazards involved in handling such materials.

 

Bashir A. Syed

Retired aerospace Physicist

Former Member: Radiation Safety Committee, NASA/JSC

----- Original Message -----

From: evelyn sardina

To: hreg

Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:03 PM

Subject: [hreg] Fwd: Re: I guess I should ask........

I know that the subject of radioactivity has been covered before on this forum.  Does anyone want to respond to this question though?

Note: forwarded message attached.

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--- In hreg@yahoogroups.com, Paul Archer <tigger@...> wrote:
>
> There's a local company, Stagelight (www.stagelight.com,
713-942-0555) that
> sells some architectural LED lights. Their focus, as their name
implies, is
> on stage (theatrical) lighting, but they'll work with you.
>
> Paul
>
> Disclaimer: my wife works for the company.
>
>
> 8:33am, T L J wrote:
>
> > Raymond -
> >
> > I'm a huge fan of LED lights, but as far as a local store, very
unlikely to find them.
> >
> > Good resource on the web however, try:
> >
> > http://www.besthomeledlighting.com/
> >
> > I haven't ordered from them yet, but the products look easy to
install (most utilize standard screw-in).  The track lights look
especially promising - they use Cree's newest bright LEDs, so instead
of a nested array, is simply a single ultrabright LED.
> >
> > Let me know if you have any luck with a local supplier.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: ajsinits <ajsinits@...>
> > To: hreg@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 10:14:49 PM
> > Subject: [hreg] LED Lights
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >            What is everybody"s opinion about LED lighting and any
recommendation
> >
> > where to buy it in Houston?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> >
> >
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Thank you for the response. Will update you if I am able to find a
local dealer.

Raymond

-1. I agree with Bashir, except I'd delete the supernatural element.

  -2. Re: space.  I've wondered about it for some time.  Humanity has some
reliable big rockets.  Could a payload of nuclear waste be sent up with just
enough ooomph to escape Earth gravity?  I guess the sun's gravity would ensure
delivery to the big furnace, where it wouldn't even make a ripple.  Perhaps
with a pair of gravity assist "slingshots" as it swings by Venus and Mercury.
I don't know how many such shots it would take, but it should be worth
considering.

Ariel
- We are all Human beings here together.  We have to help one another, since
otherwise there is NO ONE who will help.
- All countries need a NO REGRETS strategic energy policy.  Think ahead 7
generations.
------------------------------------

> What about the suggestion about sending it up to space?
>
> Bashir Syed <bsyed@...> wrote:            I heard the same
> program on NPR about French storing such waste based on laws which were
> enacted under complete secrecy so that people will not express their
> opposition against such action. Man is blindly following the "SCIENTISTS,"
> many of whom have been proven wrong about Earth Warming, and many other
> phenomenon based on "Models" and neglecting many variables. Recently, the
> false prophets have invented a new technique called "Risk Analysis" completely
> based on Statistical laws. And we all know what Benjamin Disraeli said about
> Lies: "Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics."
>   Earth quakes are a reality, and no matter what assumtions the proponents of
> disposal of radioactive waste might say, this waste will creep through the
> "CLAY" which is considered as strog as porcelain (which it is not). It will
> take relatively longer time, but sure enough it will get through tiny pores,
> eventually polluting the water table. Once that happens and people or
> animals drink water contaminated with highly radioactice waste by-products
> (some of these have a half-life of the order of billions of years) the
> occurrence of cancer and tumors will increase and many innocent people will
> die. But then those who decided burying the waste would have been forgotten.
> But remember, there is an ultimate Judgement by God that these people will
> face for deceiving their own people just because of Greed. Just see the
> pictures of victims and fetuses affected by Depleted Uranium and you can
> figure out the damage. After the Manhattan Project, the scientists at Los
> Alamos Labs
>  injected Plutoium in terminal patients without their consent or letting their
> dear ones know about their actions. During Clinton's first term, his
> Secertary of Energy, Hazel O'Leary declassified lots of documents from that
> era (including those from Los Alamos Labs) and a book "Plutonium Files" was
> published to publicize this crime against humanity which ware not less than
> what the Nazis did during the World Wars. Those of us who have the training
> in this subject know quite well the hazards involved in handling such
> materials.
>
>   Bashir A. Syed
>   Retired aerospace Physicist
>   Former Member: Radiation Safety Committee, NASA/JSC
>     ----- Original Message -----
>   From: evelyn sardina
>   To: hreg
>   Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:03 PM
>   Subject: [hreg] Fwd: Re: I guess I should ask........
>
>
>     I know that the subject of radioactivity has been covered before on this
> forum.  Does anyone want to respond to this question though?
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Ariel Thomann

To: hreg@yahoogroups.com

Cc: evelynsardina@...

Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 6:33 PM

Subject: Re: [hreg] Fwd: Re: I guess I should ask........

-1. I agree with Bashir, except I'd delete the supernatural element.

-2. Re: space. I've wondered about it for some time. Humanity has some
reliable big rockets. Could a payload of nuclear waste be sent up with just
enough ooomph to escape Earth gravity? I guess the sun's gravity would ensure
delivery to the big furnace, where it wouldn't even make a ripple. Perhaps
with a pair of gravity assist "slingshots" as it swings by Venus and Mercury.
I don't know how many such shots it would take, but it should be worth
considering.

Ariel
- We are all Human beings here together. We have to help one another, since
otherwise there is NO ONE who will help.
- All countries need a NO REGRETS strategic energy policy. Think ahead 7
generations.
------------------------------------

> What about the suggestion about sending it up to space?
>
> Bashir Syed <bsyed@worldnet.att.net> wrote: I heard the same
> program on NPR about French storing such waste based on laws which were
> enacted under complete secrecy so that people will not express their
> opposition against such action. Man is blindly following the "SCIENTISTS,"
> many of whom have been proven wrong about Earth Warming, and many other
> phenomenon based on "Models" and neglecting many variables. Recently, the
> false prophets have invented a new technique called "Risk Analysis" completely
> based on Statistical laws. And we all know what Benjamin Disraeli said about
> Lies: "Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics."
> Earth quakes are a reality, and no matter what assumtions the proponents of
> disposal of radioactive waste might say, this waste will creep through the
> "CLAY" which is considered as strog as porcelain (which it is not). It will
> take relatively longer time, but sure enough it will get through tiny pores,
> eventually polluting the water table. Once that happens and people or
> animals drink water contaminated with highly radioactice waste by-products
> (some of these have a half-life of the order of billions of years) the
> occurrence of cancer and tumors will increase and many innocent people will
> die. But then those who decided burying the waste would have been forgotten.
> But remember, there is an ultimate Judgement by God that these people will
> face for deceiving their own people just because of Greed. Just see the
> pictures of victims and fetuses affected by Depleted Uranium and you can
> figure out the damage. After the Manhattan Project, the scientists at Los
> Alamos Labs
> injected Plutoium in terminal patients without their consent or letting their
> dear ones know about their actions. During Clinton's first term, his
> Secertary of Energy, Hazel O'Leary declassified lots of documents from that
> era (including those from Los Alamos Labs) and a book "Plutonium Files" was
> published to publicize this crime against humanity which ware not less than
> what the Nazis did during the World Wars. Those of us who have the training
> in this subject know quite well the hazards involved in handling such
> materials.
>
> Bashir A. Syed
> Retired aerospace Physicist
> Former Member: Radiation Safety Committee, NASA/JSC
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: evelyn sardina
> To: hreg
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:03 PM
> Subject: [hreg] Fwd: Re: I guess I should ask........
>
>
> I know that the subject of radioactivity has been covered before on this
> forum. Does anyone want to respond to this question though?
>

Well, if (yes, admittedly IF) it works, "space" would not be contaminated by a
payload traveling on its way to be incinerated by the sun.

Next, is it worth a few  pounds of gold to eliminate from the planet something
we don't want around because of how bad it is?  What was the cost of cleaning up
the Brio site?

Ariel
- We are all Human beings here together.  We have to help one another, since
otherwise there is NO ONE who will help.
- All countries need a NO REGRETS strategic energy policy.  Think ahead 7
generations.
------------------------------------

> I'd have to say the whole concept is very impractical and irresponsible. It's
> bad enough we've spewed our poisons into the atmosphere and seas without
> regard, surely we don't have to do the same with space!  I'm also quite sure
> the economics are horrible, I heard one space expert say it takes the
> figurative equivalent of several pounds of gold to launch one pound of payload
> into orbit.
>
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 7:07 PM
> To: hreg@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [hreg] Fwd: Re: I guess I should ask........
>
>
>
> This aspect has been considered and due to more risks of having a mishap on
> the launch pad or close to earth, this method of disposing off any radio
> active material was abondoned. A few years ago a Satellite came very close to
> earth and crashed in Canada, spilling radioactive material used in
> Thermo-Nuclear power generator. After that such power sources were replaced by
> Photovoltaic PV Solar Cells (and Fuell Cells in International Space Station),
> much safer than earlier Thermo-Nuclear powerr sources.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Ariel Thomann <mailto:ajthomann@...>
>
> To: hreg@yahoogroups. <mailto:hreg@yahoogroups.com> com
>
> Cc: evelynsardina@ <mailto:evelynsardina@...> yahoo.com
>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 6:33 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [hreg] Fwd: Re: I guess I should ask........
>
>
>
> -1. I agree with Bashir, except I'd delete the supernatural element.
>
> -2. Re: space. I've wondered about it for some time. Humanity has some
> reliable big rockets. Could a payload of nuclear waste be sent up with just
> enough ooomph to escape Earth gravity? I guess the sun's gravity would ensure
> delivery to the big furnace, where it wouldn't even make a ripple. Perhaps
> with a pair of gravity assist "slingshots" as it swings by Venus and Mercury.
> I don't know how many such shots it would take, but it should be worth
> considering.
>
> Ariel
> - We are all Human beings here together. We have to help one another, since
> otherwise there is NO ONE who will help.
> - All countries need a NO REGRETS strategic energy policy. Think ahead 7
> generations.
> ------------------------------------
>
>> What about the suggestion about sending it up to space?
>>
>> Bashir Syed <bsyed@worldnet. <mailto:bsyed%40worldnet.att.net> att.net>
> wrote: I heard the same
>> program on NPR about French storing such waste based on laws which were
>> enacted under complete secrecy so that people will not express their
>> opposition against such action. Man is blindly following the "SCIENTISTS,"
>> many of whom have been proven wrong about Earth Warming, and many other
>> phenomenon based on "Models" and neglecting many variables. Recently, the
>> false prophets have invented a new technique called "Risk Analysis"
> completely
>> based on Statistical laws. And we all know what Benjamin Disraeli said
> about
>> Lies: "Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics."
>> Earth quakes are a reality, and no matter what assumtions the proponents
> of
>> disposal of radioactive waste might say, this waste will creep through the
>> "CLAY" which is considered as strog as porcelain (which it is not). It
> will
>> take relatively longer time, but sure enough it will get through tiny
> pores,
>> eventually polluting the water table. Once that happens and people or
>> animals drink water contaminated with highly radioactice waste by-products
>> (some of these have a half-life of the order of billions of years) the
>> occurrence of cancer and tumors will increase and many innocent people
> will
>> die. But then those who decided burying the waste would have been
> forgotten.
>> But remember, there is an ultimate Judgement by God that these people will
>> face for deceiving their own people just because of Greed. Just see the
>> pictures of victims and fetuses affected by Depleted Uranium and you can
>> figure out the damage. After the Manhattan Project, the scientists at Los
>> Alamos Labs
>> injected Plutoium in terminal patients without their consent or letting
> their
>> dear ones know about their actions. During Clinton's first term, his
>> Secertary of Energy, Hazel O'Leary declassified lots of documents from
> that
>> era (including those from Los Alamos Labs) and a book "Plutonium Files"
> was
>> published to publicize this crime against humanity which ware not less
> than
>> what the Nazis did during the World Wars. Those of us who have the
> training
>> in this subject know quite well the hazards involved in handling such
>> materials.
>>
>> Bashir A. Syed
>> Retired aerospace Physicist
>> Former Member: Radiation Safety Committee, NASA/JSC
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: evelyn sardina
>> To: hreg
>> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:03 PM
>> Subject: [hreg] Fwd: Re: I guess I should ask........
>>
>>
>> I know that the subject of radioactivity has been covered before on this
>> forum. Does anyone want to respond to this question though?
>>
>
>

Step in the right direction, I suppose, but they still a long way to go.  Check
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2007-08/22/content_6035672.htm

Ariel
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I was thinking about this recent discussion of sending radioactive waste
into out space. First, there are some inherent dangers in rocket propulsion,
and a Challenger-magnitude accident would be very, very bad. But the cost of
sending a payload into space (several pounds of gold worth for each pound of
payload, I think was mentioned) is predicated on humans taking the payload
into space--and humans coming back. A simple (only a relative term) ICBM
type rocket is much, much cheaper. You don't have to worry about G forces,
livable environment, radiation (besides the stuff you're sending), or
getting anyone back to earth.

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I’d have to say the whole concept is very impractical and irresponsible.  It’s bad enough we’ve spewed our poisons into the atmosphere and seas without regard, surely we don’t have to do the same with space!  I’m also quite sure the economics are horrible, I heard one space expert say it takes the figurative equivalent of several pounds of gold to launch one pound of payload into orbit.

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From: Bashir Syed [mailto:bsyed@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 7:07 PM
To: hreg@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [hreg] Fwd: Re: I guess I should ask........

This aspect has been considered and due to more risks of having a mishap on the launch pad or close to earth, this method of disposing off any radio active material was abondoned. A few years ago a Satellite came very close to earth and crashed in Canada, spilling radioactive material used in Thermo-Nuclear power generator. After that such power sources were replaced by Photovoltaic PV Solar Cells (and Fuell Cells in International Space Station), much safer than earlier Thermo-Nuclear powerr sources.  

----- Original Message -----

From: Ariel Thomann

To: hreg@yahoogroups.com

Cc: evelynsardina@yahoo.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 6:33 PM

Subject: Re: [hreg] Fwd: Re: I guess I should ask........

-1. I agree with Bashir, except I'd delete the supernatural element.

-2. Re: space. I've wondered about it for some time. Humanity has some
reliable big rockets. Could a payload of nuclear waste be sent up with just
enough ooomph to escape Earth gravity? I guess the sun's gravity would ensure
delivery to the big furnace, where it wouldn't even make a ripple. Perhaps
with a pair of gravity assist "slingshots" as it swings by Venus and Mercury.
I don't know how many such shots it would take, but it should be worth
considering.

Ariel
- We are all Human beings here together. We have to help one another, since
otherwise there is NO ONE who will help.
- All countries need a NO REGRETS strategic energy policy. Think ahead 7
generations.
------------------------------------

> What about the suggestion about sending it up to space?
>
> Bashir Syed <bsyed@worldnet.att.net> wrote: I heard the same
> program on NPR about French storing such waste based on laws which were
> enacted under complete secrecy so that people will not express their
> opposition against such action. Man is blindly following the "SCIENTISTS,"
> many of whom have been proven wrong about Earth Warming, and many other
> phenomenon based on "Models" and neglecting many variables. Recently, the
> false prophets have invented a new technique called "Risk Analysis" completely
> based on Statistical laws. And we all know what Benjamin Disraeli said about
> Lies: "Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics."
> Earth quakes are a reality, and no matter what assumtions the proponents of
> disposal of radioactive waste might say, this waste will creep through the
> "CLAY" which is considered as strog as porcelain (which it is not). It will
> take relatively longer time, but sure enough it will get through tiny pores,
> eventually polluting the water table. Once that happens and people or
> animals drink water contaminated with highly radioactice waste by-products
> (some of these have a half-life of the order of billions of years) the
> occurrence of cancer and tumors will increase and many innocent people will
> die. But then those who decided burying the waste would have been forgotten.
> But remember, there is an ultimate Judgement by God that these people will
> face for deceiving their own people just because of Greed. Just see the
> pictures of victims and fetuses affected by Depleted Uranium and you can
> figure out the damage. After the Manhattan Project, the scientists at Los
> Alamos Labs
> injected Plutoium in terminal patients without their consent or letting their
> dear ones know about their actions. During Clinton's first term, his
> Secertary of Energy, Hazel O'Leary declassified lots of documents from that
> era (including those from Los Alamos Labs) and a book "Plutonium Files" was
> published to publicize this crime against humanity which ware not less than
> what the Nazis did during the World Wars. Those of us who have the training
> in this subject know quite well the hazards involved in handling such
> materials.
>
> Bashir A. Syed
> Retired aerospace Physicist
> Former Member: Radiation Safety Committee, NASA/JSC
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: evelyn sardina
> To: hreg
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:03 PM
> Subject: [hreg] Fwd: Re: I guess I should ask........
>
>
> I know that the subject of radioactivity has been covered before on this
> forum. Does anyone want to respond to this question though?
>

According to the Department of Energy, the US has about 55,000 metric tons of
radioactive waste.
(http://www.ocrwm.doe.gov/ym_repository/about_project/waste_explained/howmuch.sh\
tml)

According to several sources, it costs about $5,000 - $10,000 to send a kilogram
into orbit. And that's in orbit close to the earth. To get away from the earth,
either into space or to the sun, would cost more. But let's just say that into
orbit is good enough for now, and let's go with the lower estimate, $5,000/kg.

Doing the math, that gives you about $550,000,000,000, or $550 billion to put
all the waste into space.

Let's use the Ariane 5 launch vehicle, as it can launch around 10,000 kg   at
one time. To send 55,000 metric tons into orbit, we'd only need 5,500 launches
of the Ariane 5.

The Ariane 5 has a success rate of around 86%. Out of 5,500 launches, that means
about 825 would have some sort of failure. Assume that half of those happen in
the atmosphere, so that means you get a little over 400 vehicles putting some
amount of radioactive waste in the atmosphere.

US launch vehicles have been generally more successful at launching, around a
91% to 95% success rate. So let's go with a 95% success rate. Out of 5,500
launches, that means that only about 275 launches fail. (not to fault the Ariane
5 here, it hasn't had that many launches)

Again, if we assume half of those fail in the atmosphere, then you only have to
contend with about 137 incidents of radioactive waste in the atmosphere.

The Delta 2 spacecraft has a launch rate of around 12 per year. This is probably
a good launch rate, but let's double that, so we can get 24 launches every year.
At that rate, it will take about 229 years to launch all the current waste.

Of course, we are continuing to generate more waste all the time. The DOE
predicts that the US will have about 119,000 metric tons by the year 2035.

Yucca mountain is slated to hold around 70,000 metric tons.

Steve





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From: hreg@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hreg@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Solar Energy
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 9:46 AM
To: hreg@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [hreg] Radioactivity in Food & Water Supply

Are there inexpensive testers on the market one could purchase to measure the amount of radiactivity in food & water supplies?  I recall reading an article some 35 or 40 years ago about finding ways how to reduce world population on earth.  Of course, the "elites" who would come up with such an evil plan would protect themselves against such a Holocaust.  If such a device would become available and affordable then everyone should own one just like having a cellphone with you all the time.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Robert Johnston

To: hreg@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 10:20 AM

Subject: RE: [hreg] Radioactivity in Food & Water Supply

I think this kind of conspiracist thinking is irrelevant to the topic of renewable energy.  In any case, this will be far more likely to occur at the hands of terrorists than at the hands of the "elite". 

 

Robert

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From: hreg@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hreg@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Solar Energy
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 9:46 AM
To: hreg@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [hreg] Radioactivity in Food & Water Supply

Are there inexpensive testers on the market one could purchase to measure the amount of radiactivity in food & water supplies?  I recall reading an article some 35 or 40 years ago about finding ways how to reduce world population on earth.  Of course, the "elites" who would come up with such an evil plan would protect themselves against such a Holocaust.  If such a device would become available and affordable then everyone should own one just like having a cellphone with you all the time.

Ahmad

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This sounds like a significant reduction in the cost of Hydrogen production.
Of course a press release only gives the good points.

http://www.americansecurityresources.com/subsidiaries/

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From: Susan Modikoane

To: hreg@yahoogroups.com ; houstonpeakoil@...

Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:14 AM

Subject: [hreg] Info

This may be off topic, but I think it is important enough to be posted and hope that those of you who are offended will forgive me.  Wayne Madsen was a Navy Seal and a former Intelligence Agent.  There are government officials that post on this website.

 

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August 27, 2007 -- Financial markets also indicating a September "Surprise"

WMR has learned from British government sources that billions of dollars in "put options" are being placed by anonymous investors in the United States and Europe. These speculators are betting that the value of a number of stocks will drop by one-third around the time of a suspected market crash sometime before September 21.

The word from the City of London is that "big trades are being made by mysterious traders."

The week prior to 9/11 saw six times the number of put options placed on the stocks of companies directly affacted by the terrorist attacks, including American and United Airlines, Morgan Staley Dean Witter, Merrill Lynch, and Swiss Re.

On August 22, WMR reported on chatter about a possible "incident" in the San Francisco Bay area during the Labor Day weekend.

WMR has now learned that the Treasury Department plans to conduct an unprecedented "emergency exercise" with some 3000 banks around the country during the month of September. Officially, this exercise is being billed as a drill for a potential bird flu pandemic but the timing -- September -- has some financial analysts and experts concerned.

Adding to the jitters was the recent statement by former Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers about the risk of a recession in the same sentence he mentioned 9/11: "It would be far too premature to judge this crisis over . . . I would say the risks of recession are now greater than they've been any time since the period in the aftermath of 9/11."

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