The newly enacted Texas Energy Conservation Bill (my name for SB5) will be
making significant impact on our community. We look at this conference as
industry and bankers looking for ways to make money as a result of the Texas
legislative action

This bill addresses three major areas:

DIESEL EMISSIONS REDUCTION INCENTIVE PROGRAM (DERIP)
This section requires the commission to establish and administer a program
to provide grant for projects to offset the incremental cost of projects
that reduce emissions of oxides of nitrogen (NOx) from high-emitting diesel
sources in non-attainment areas and affected counties of the state. Note
Houston is a non-attainment area.

TEXAS EMISSIONS REDUCTION PLAN (TERP)
This section requires the Public Utilities Commission (PUC) to establish and
administer the TERP according to the stipulations of the bill.  The PUC is
required to develop an efficiency grant program that will include retirement
of materials and appliances that contribute to peak energy demand to ensure
the reduction of energy demand, peak loads and associated emission of air
pollutants.

TEXAS BUILDING ENERGY PERFORMANCE STANDARDS (IRC & IECC)
This section establishes the International Residential Code as the standard
for single family residential construction and the International Energy
Conservation Code for other residential, commercial and industrial
construction.

We are excited that all new construction (except school districts) will be
scrutinized for energy conservation in Texas.

Please give your accolades to our Senator Brown. I understand that he is not
going to run for re-election in the Texas Senate next term but this bill is
an outstanding contribution to healthier environment

My company does not have much to do with the first two points but we are
actively introducing the newly adopted energy efficiency codes in our
engineering services and designs.

G'day

> -----Original Message-----
> From: OLafleur@... [SMTP:OLafleur@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 11:00 PM
> To: hreg@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [hreg] Energytech Conference
>
> Fortunately the group at TSU was able to attend as guests of TXU
> electricity.  We really could not afford the registration fee. This event
> was really not specifically about renewable energy but more focus on
> introducing products and services that can save time and money for
> companies involved in electricity generation, regardless of the source.
> But of course you know who dominated (fossil fuel companies). One thing I
> can say is that they spared no cost on the food, drinks and entertainment.
> Everything was top class.  "Go big fossil fuel industry"!
>
> Oral LaFleur
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Senator Brown is also the man who vetoed out of committee the possibility of
establishing a Trinity Aquifer Water District that would have allowed us to
protect the slim resources of the Trinity Aquifer set from being drained,
exploited and ruined by large municipalities like San Antonio and Austin.
He quashed this proposal because it could have potentially provided some
protection to rural Texas residents from unwanted municipal annexation and
taxation.

Since Senator Brown's action it has been open season on the Trinity and the
City of San Antonio has obtained multiple wells on the Trinity set and at
this time has the ability to drain these wells and these aquifers beyond
their recovery rate.  If San Antonio takes this action it will leave
potentially thousands of rural Texas residents without water.

Thanks to Senator Brown there is no state agency, law or regulation that can
stop the most ignorant municipal government in the state from bullying
individual citizens and taking one of the most important resources they
have - water.  The only recourse left to the individual citizen and resident
is to file a civil lawsuit where the citizen would have to bear the burden
of proof that it is the City's consumption that disables their well.

Add this issue to other issues like city utilities ruining the air quality
and taking property owners by conquest through annexation this citizen has
to ask the question - just who are the terrorists here in Texas?  As the old
saying goes, "As long as the Texas legislature is in session, no one is
safe."

Oh, thank you Senator Brown.

SBT Designs
25840 IH-10 West #1
Boerne, Texas 78006
210-698-7109
FAX: 210-698-7147
www.sbtdesigns.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Claude Foster" <ccfoster@...>
To: <hreg@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:22 AM
Subject: RE: [hreg] Energytech Conference


> The newly enacted Texas Energy Conservation Bill (my name for SB5) will be
> making significant impact on our community. We look at this conference as
> industry and bankers looking for ways to make money as a result of the
Texas
> legislative action
>
> This bill addresses three major areas:
>
> DIESEL EMISSIONS REDUCTION INCENTIVE PROGRAM (DERIP)
> This section requires the commission to establish and administer a program
> to provide grant for projects to offset the incremental cost of projects
> that reduce emissions of oxides of nitrogen (NOx) from high-emitting
diesel
> sources in non-attainment areas and affected counties of the state. Note
> Houston is a non-attainment area.
>
> TEXAS EMISSIONS REDUCTION PLAN (TERP)
> This section requires the Public Utilities Commission (PUC) to establish
and
> administer the TERP according to the stipulations of the bill.  The PUC is
> required to develop an efficiency grant program that will include
retirement
> of materials and appliances that contribute to peak energy demand to
ensure
> the reduction of energy demand, peak loads and associated emission of air
> pollutants.
>
> TEXAS BUILDING ENERGY PERFORMANCE STANDARDS (IRC & IECC)
> This section establishes the International Residential Code as the
standard
> for single family residential construction and the International Energy
> Conservation Code for other residential, commercial and industrial
> construction.
>
> We are excited that all new construction (except school districts) will be
> scrutinized for energy conservation in Texas.
>
> Please give your accolades to our Senator Brown. I understand that he is
not
> going to run for re-election in the Texas Senate next term but this bill
is
> an outstanding contribution to healthier environment
>
> My company does not have much to do with the first two points but we are
> actively introducing the newly adopted energy efficiency codes in our
> engineering services and designs.
>
> G'day
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: OLafleur@... [SMTP:OLafleur@...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 11:00 PM
> > To: hreg@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [hreg] Energytech Conference
> >
> > Fortunately the group at TSU was able to attend as guests of TXU
> > electricity.  We really could not afford the registration fee. This
event
> > was really not specifically about renewable energy but more focus on
> > introducing products and services that can save time and money for
> > companies involved in electricity generation, regardless of the source.
> > But of course you know who dominated (fossil fuel companies). One thing
I
> > can say is that they spared no cost on the food, drinks and
entertainment.
> > Everything was top class.  "Go big fossil fuel industry"!
> >
> > Oral LaFleur
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service
> > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>.
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

-----Original Message-----
From: thaisgurich@... [mailto:thaisgurich@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:23 AM
To: hreg@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [hreg] global warming public forum

I'm wondering, is the student group at TSU is going to be able to attend the Global Warming Public Forum on Oct. 22nd?  It's a free event and will be very appropiate material for a renewable energy group!  We are trying hard to hype this event to college students and I'm not 100% sure the word is succesfully getting out to the different campuses.  Please let me know if it is.

Thanks for your input,
Ti Gurich  

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I thought this was interesting...

>
> The New Great Game: Oil Politics in Central Asia
> Source: Alternet.org - Oct 19,2001
> By Ted Rall
> Nursultan Nazarbayev has a terrible problem. He's the president and former
> Communist Party boss of Kazakhstan, the second-largest republic of the
> former Soviet Union. A few years ago, the giant country struck oil in the
> eastern portion of the Caspian Sea. Geologists estimate that sitting
beneath
> the wind-blown steppes of Kazakhstan are 50 billion barrels of oil -- by
far
> the biggest untapped reserves in the world. (Saudi Arabia, currently the
> world's largest oil producer, is believed to have about 30 billion barrels
> remaining.)
> Kazakhstan's Soviet-subsidized economy collapsed immediately after
> independence in 1991. When I visited the then-capital, Almaty, in 1997, I
> was struck by the utter absence of elderly people. One after another,
people
> confided that their parents had died of malnutrition during the brutal
> winters of 1993 and 1994. Middle-class residents of a superpower had been
> reduced to abject poverty virtually overnight; thirtysomething women who
> appeared sixtysomething hocked their wedding silver in underpasses next to
> reps for the Kazakh state art museum trying to move enough socialist
realist
> paintings for a dollar each to keep the lights on. The average Kazakh
earned
> $20 a month; those unwilling or unable to steal died of gangrene adjacent
to
> long- winded tales of woe written on cardboard.
> Autocrats tend to die badly during periods of downward mobility.
Nazarbayev,
> therefore, has spent most of the last decade trying to get his land-locked
> oil out to sea. Once the oil starts flowing, it won't take long before
> Kazakhstan replaces Kuwait as the land of Benzes and ugly gold jewelry.
But
> the longer the pipeline, the more expensive and vulnerable to sabotage it
> is. The shortest route runs through Iran, but Kazakhstan is too closely
> aligned with the U.S. to offend it by cutting a deal with Teheran. Russia
> has helpfully offered to build a line connecting Kazakh oil rigs to the
> Black Sea, but neighboring Turkmenistan has experienced trouble with the
> Russians: they tend to divert the oil for their own uses without paying
for
> it. There's even a plan to run crude out through China, but the proposed
> 5,300-mile line would be far too long to prove profitable.
> The logical alternative, then, is Unocal's plan, which is to extend
> Turkmenistan's existing system west to the Kazakh field on the Caspian and
> southeast to the Pakistani port of Karachi on the Arabian Sea. That
project
> runs through Afghanistan.
> As Central Asian expert Ahmed Rashid describes in his 2000 book "Taliban:
> Militant Islam, Oil and Fundamentalism in Central Asia," the U.S. and
> Pakistan decided to install a stable regime in Afghanistan around 1994 --
a
> regime that would end the country's civil war and thus ensure the safety
of
> the Unocal pipeline project. Impressed by the ruthlessness and willingness
> of the then-emerging Taliban to cut a pipeline deal, the U.S. State
> Department and Pakistan's ISI intelligence service agreed to funnel arms
and
> funding to the Taliban in their war against the ethnically Tajik Northern
> Alliance. It has been reported that as recently as 1999, U.S. taxpayers
paid
> the entire annual salary of every single Taliban government official, all
in
> the hopes of returning to the days of dollar-a-gallon gas. Pakistan,
> naturally, would pick up revenues from a Karachi oil port facility.
> Harkening to 19th century power politics between Russia and British India,
> Rashid dubbed the struggle for control of post-Soviet Central Asia "the
new
> Great Game."
> Predictably, the Taliban Frankenstein got out of control. The regime's
> unholy alliance with Osama bin Laden's terror network, their penchant for
> invading their neighbors and their production of 50 percent of the world's
> opium made them unlikely partners for the desired oil deal. Then-President
> Bill Clinton's 1998 cruise missile attack on Afghanistan briefly brought
the
> Taliban back into line; they even eradicated opium poppy cultivation in
less
> than a year, but they nonetheless continued supporting countless militant
> Islamic groups. When an Egyptian group whose members had trained in
> Afghanistan hijacked four airplanes and used them to kill more than 6,000
> Americans on September 11, Washington's patience with its former client
> finally expired.
> Finally the Bushies had the perfect excuse to do what the U.S. had wanted
> all along: invade and/or install an old-school puppet regime in Kabul.
> Realpolitik no more cares about the 6,000 dead than it concerns itself
with
> oppressed women in Afghanistan; this ersatz war by a phony president is
> solely about getting the Unocal deal done without interference from
annoying
> local middlemen.
> Central Asian politics, however, is a house of cards: every time you
remove
> one element, the whole thing comes crashing down. Muslim extremists in
both
> Pakistan and Afghanistan, for instance, will support additional terror
> attacks on the U.S. to avenge the elimination of the Taliban. A
> U.S.-installed Northern Alliance can't hold Kabul without an army of
> occupation because Afghan legitimacy hinges on capturing the capital on
your
> own. And even if we do this the right way by funding and training the
> Northern Alliance so that they can seize power themselves, Pakistan's
ethnic
> Pashtun government will never tolerate the replacement of their Pashtun
> brothers in the Taliban by Northern Alliance Tajiks. Without Pakistani
> cooperation, there's no getting the oil out and there's no chance for
> stability in Afghanistan.
> As Bush would say, make no mistake: this is about oil. It's always about
> oil. And to twist a late '90s cliche, it's only boring because it's true.
> Ted Rall, a syndicated cartoonist for Universal Press Syndicate, has
> traveled extensively throughout Central Asia. Most recently, in 2000, he
> went to Turkmenistan as a guest of the U.S. State Department.

Reply-To: hreg@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 18:23:10 -0500
To: <hreg@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [hreg] Planned commercial solar facility for Houston

Below is a notice from Houston's Citizens Environmental Coalition.  I missed the article in the Chronicle.  Does anybody now anything about this?

LaVerne A. Williams, AIA
laverne@...
Environment Associates, Architects & Consultants
5828 Langfield Road
Houston, TX 77092-1429
713.528.0000



**Green Mountains Plans for Solar***
Green Mountain Energy, Texas¹ only provider of "green electricity,"
announced plans to develop two commercial-scale solar power facilities in
Texas, according to a recent article in the Houston Chronicle. On of the
50-kilowat projects will be in the Houston area and the other near Dallas.
Exact locations have not been confirmed.

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LaVerne Williams wrote:

Below is a notice from Houston's Citizens Environmental Coalition.  I missed the article in the Chronicle.  Does anybody now anything about this? LaVerne A. Williams, AIA
laverne@...
Environment Associates, Architects & Consultants
5828 Langfield Road
Houston, TX 77092-1429
713.528.0000   **Green Mountains Plans for Solar***
Green Mountain Energy, Texas¹ only provider of "green electricity,"
announced plans to develop two commercial-scale solar power facilities in
Texas, according to a recent article in the Houston Chronicle. On of the
50-kilowat projects will be in the Houston area and the other near Dallas.
Exact locations have not been confirmed.

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HREG and TSU Photovoltaic Research and Demo Lab will be one of over
30 exhibitors at the Next Door Block Party and Sustainability Fair.
Free admission.  Music from local songwriters, food, stories by
Houston Storytellers Guild, and booths ranging from clean, green
electricity by Green Mountain Energy, smart growth by Houston Sierra
Club, socially responsible investments, medicinal herbs, personal
development, and building a culture of peace.   For a list of
exhibitors and more info:
www.simplicity.tripod.com/sustainabilityfair.htm

The Block Party and Sustainability Fair will be Saturday and Sunday,
November 10 & 11, noon until after dark in Edloe Street between
Westheimer and Alabama just west of St. Luke's United Methodist
Church, 3471 Westheimer organized by Houston Simplicity Network, the
Next Door Coffee House and Houston Storytellers Guild.

Sustainability is enjoying creation's fruit without endangering its
fruitfulness.  Exhibitors offer small steps you can take to lighten
your impact on the planet.

$10 entry to Sarah Hickman performance 8pm Saturday and $15 for
Livingston Taylor Sunday 6pm.  Tickets available at online at
www.thenextdoorcoffeehouse.org/ 713-626-DOOR and Cactus Records

Nan Hildreth, 713-864-7108  Nan.Hildreth@...

Agenda At A Glance

Thursday, Nov. 15
TREIA Golf Tournament – Sweetwater Country Club
Ribbon Cutting: AEP’s Trent Mesa Wind Plant (150 MW)
Exhibitor Set-up – Abilene Civic Center
Welcome Reception (Sponsored by AEP - Open to conference attendees.) – Grace Cultural Center, Abilene.

Friday, Nov. 16
TR 2001 Conference Sessions – Abilene Civic Center
Renewable Energy Exhibits Open to Public  – Abilene Civic Center
TREIA Awards Luncheon – Abilene Civic Center
TREIA Wind Boom Reception – Abilene Civic Center Exhibit Area

Saturday, Nov. 17
TR 2001 Specialized Workshops – Abilene Civic Center
Renewable Energy Exhibits Open to Public – Abilene Civic Center
Public Tours of Trent Mesa Wind Plant – Buses Depart from Abilene Civic Center. Vans from Base of Trent Mesa

Headquarters hotel will be the Quality Inn Civic Center, 1-800-588-0222.

Contact: Russel Smith, TREIA, (512) 345-5446, R1346@...

NOTE:  If you would like to be removed from the Texas Solar Energy Society list for announcements of interest to the renewable energy field, please go to www.txses.org/lists.phtml and unsubscribe yourself.  Please excuse any double postings if you belong to more than one of these lists.

fyi.   pass it on.   marge
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Hoston Museum of Natural Science Teacher Workshop
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 01:38:15 -0600
From: Susan Frederick <sjf@...>
-------- Original Message --------
     Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 10:48:24 -0600
     From: "Nicole Frison" <nfrison@...>
Reply-To: "Nicole Frison" <nfrison@...>
       To: <Undisclosed.Recipients@...>


  Hello,The Houston Museum of Natural Science has an educator workshop
coming up that you might catch you interest.  The topic for the upcoming
Teacher Tuesday is Engerize Your Classroom.  This workshop will be held
from 5 PM to 8 PM on November 6th.  You will receive a light supper,
activities, curriculum, three hours of C.P.E. credit and lots of
freebies.  One of the freebies for this workshop is an interactive
CD-ROM, valued at $100 in the Museum gift shop.  This workshop will
focus on energy, including fossil and alternative fuels.  Explore the
Wiess Energy Hall with us and investigate hands-on activities from a
Discovery Kit, available for loan.  All in all, it should be a fun and
educational evening!!  You can register for this workshop on one of
three ways.  First, you can call 713 639 4629.  Eventually, you can talk
to an actual human being.  You can also register on-line at
www.hmns.org.  If you go to the calendar option on the left hand side of
you screen and then forward to November, you should see the workshops
available that evening.  Click on Energize Your Classroom and there will
be a link taking you to the registration.  The third option is to just
show up on the night of the workshop and register at the box office.
This does not guarantee you a spot or a meal, however, so register
early!!!!  If you have any more questions, feel free to call me at 713
639 4744. Nicole FrisonEducational Resource SpecialistHouston Museum of
Natural Science

----- Original Message -----

From: ChasMauch@...

To: hreg@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 5:25 PM

Subject: [hreg] MUD in San Francisco

Wow! Just read in The Nation that San Francisco is tired of being ripped off by PG&E and will be voting on creating a consumer-owned Municipal Utility District (MUD) whereby they will replace corporate control with democratic control of utilities. A MUD has operated for more than half a century in nearby Sacramento, where rates are now 30% lower than in SF. Of course the private utilities will spend big bucks fighting this but the polls show it is very popular.
Two additional propositions on the ballot would have the city invest in solar and wind power projects on city property and issue bonds to help residents and businesses install their own solar panels and join neighbor solar initiatives. The goal is to have San Francisco lead the world in solar power.
So this will be one to watch on election day. Wish we had something half that exciting going in Texas!
Charlie
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There is a third alternative, a coop, like most of us rural people use.
   We have an elected  board and anual meetings.  Basically we break even
and our rates are considerably below HL&P, even with our surcharge for
our natural gas to electric plant.
Kim

ChasMauch@... wrote:

> Historically, most cities did their own power generation, "gas works",
> waste water treatment, and trash collection for many years until the
> recent trend to privitization, and many still do. No doubt some are
> inefficient and corrupt but private operations are not always the
> answer, constantly looking for ways to provide minimally acceptable
> services while cutting corners and laying off workers.
> The City of Houston does its own vehicle repair - a vast and inefficient
> operation - but they tried privitization and decided that was even
> worse, with higher costs and no better service. Same with garbage
> collection. The city does some and contracts some out - primarily so
> they will have a basis for evaluating costs of private services - but
> there does not seem to be much to choose between the two. The idea that
> private enterprise is always good and government work is always bad
> seems to be popular but I don't necessarily agree. The city runs some
> pretty good wastewater treatment plants.
> In any event, what about the propositions regarding solar? If we wait
> for private enterprise to do it we may have a long wait. True there may
> be a form of subsidy involved here but it doesn't come close to the
> billions of dollars in subsidies that have gone to the nuclear and
> fossil fuel industries over the years - and still do. I say more power
> to them and will be pulling for all three propositions on Tuesday.
> Charlie
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----- Original Message -----

From: ChasMauch@...

To: hreg@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 5:25 PM

Subject: [hreg] MUD in San Francisco

Wow! Just read in The Nation that San Francisco is tired of being ripped off by PG&E and will be voting on creating a consumer-owned Municipal Utility District (MUD) whereby they will replace corporate control with democratic control of utilities. A MUD has operated for more than half a century in nearby Sacramento, where rates are now 30% lower than in SF. Of course the private utilities will spend big bucks fighting this but the polls show it is very popular.
Two additional propositions on the ballot would have the city invest in solar and wind power projects on city property and issue bonds to help residents and businesses install their own solar panels and join neighbor solar initiatives. The goal is to have San Francisco lead the world in solar power.
So this will be one to watch on election day. Wish we had something half that exciting going in Texas!
Charlie
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A growing number of America's churches are keeping the lights on with wind and solar power, generated without pollution or global warming emissions. The switch to clean power is part of an interfaith movement that promotes stewardship of the Earth as an important mission for religious peoples....

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Hi HREG, this is from Marge Woods/Diane Clemens.  Can anyone help this
educator?  Hi from P.T. where the days are long and the wind is a'blowin'.

interesting. I am going to forward this to someone in HREG; they are in
Houston (Houston Renewable Energy Group...cute huh) and surely they will
help you more. Diane, who would be best to help Jane with this project?
She is a really great teacher and wants to use pv power, or rather her
students do, for a project. Please get somebody in Houston to email her.
Thanks.
Marge

On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:42:24 -0600 "Jane A. Holzapfel"
<jholzapf@...> writes:
> Greetings Marge,
>
>  We looked at the lessons plans at infinitepower.org and the
> students
> printed out three of them.  We are still trying to come up with some
> good experiments that their science teachers will accept.  Right now
> they are thinking about trying to design the propellers for wind
> generators using aluminum cans to design different patterns.
>
> Infinitepower.org has some really great diagrams and explanations
> for students.
>
> You mentioned needing a smooth surface for solar model cars. Here's
> what
> we have used in the past. I have 4 x 8 silver insulation boards.
> They
> are light and very smooth so they make great tracks for solar model
> cars.  We used colored tape to make lanes on them when we had races
> about three years ago. Solar powered cars remind me of our
> sailboat...it
> seems like a great day and you drive up to lake only to find that it
> is
> a "No wind" day.  It seems that the clouds always come on solar
> planned
> days.  Today we had our personal one inch rainfall just in our part
> of town!
>
> Actually, we have not used the cars in about three years so I was
> afraid
> that the cells would not work, but they did.
>
>
> We'll keep thinking.  Houston has flashing solar powered School Zone
> signs that store the power in batteries, but apparently people keep
> stealing the batteries.  Sad huh?
>
> Maybe we can think of another good use for solar power.  We just
> have to
> keep brainstorming.
>
> Jane
>
>
>
> Marge Wood wrote:
> >
> > did you ever look at the Infinite Power lesson plans on the web?
> (I'm
> > going through old email).  if not, try www.infinitepower.org (or
> .com, I
> > always forget which). I'd love to know what you found and what you
> used.
> > Marge
> >
> > On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 22:36:00 -0600 "Jane A. Holzapfel"
> > <jholzapf@...> writes:
> > > Greetings Marge and Everyone,
> > >
> > > We have few solar model cars that we received with a grant.  I
> have
> > > been
> > > trying to think of some experiments that my students can do with
> > > them
> > > for Science Fair projects.  Does anyone have any ideas?  I am
> even
> > > willing to let the children take the solar panels off the cars.
> > >
> > > These photovoltaic cells only work outside in the sun unlike
> > > calculator
> > > cells that work in artificial light.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >  Jane
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > **********************************************************
> > > Jane A. Holzapfel
> > > Teacher Technologist
> > > Clifton Middle School, Houston ISD
> > > Apple Distinguished School
> > > 6001 Golden Forest Drive
> > > Houston, Texas  77092-2359
> > >
> > > jholzapf@...
> > > jholzapf@...
> > > (713) 613-2516 X496
> > >
> > > Technology Camp
> > > http://www.crpc.rice.edu/CRPC/GT/jholzapf/computer/home.html
> > >
> > > **********************************************************
>
> --
> **********************************************************
> Jane A. Holzapfel
> Teacher Technologist
> Clifton Middle School, Houston ISD
> Apple Distinguished School
> 6001 Golden Forest Drive
> Houston, Texas  77092-2359
>
> jholzapf@...
> jholzapf@...
> (713) 613-2516 X496
>
> Technology Camp
> http://www.crpc.rice.edu/CRPC/GT/jholzapf/computer/home.html
>
> **********************************************************

Hey, that type of project is right up my alley, and my high-school boys would
love to help, but the school is too far away.

My suggestion for those sites where batteries are being stolen:  Have a
PV-powered burgular alarm and security camera a bit down the road so the
police can catch this thief, or at least so you can SEE who the he77 is taking
those batteries!

-- Marie

Marie,

Are your high school students (boys and girls) interested in building a
solar powered race car. I would like to see Houston schools participate in
the Winston Solar Challange but the HS where I live does not seem to be
interested.

Winston had a display at the Fredicksburg show this summer and their car
actually looked like the photos.  You can get more info at
www.winstonsolar.com or contact me directly at fosterdadd@....






> -----Original Message-----
> From: ris [SMTP:ris@...]
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 10:27 PM
> To: hreg@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [hreg] education in Hou
>
> Hey, that type of project is right up my alley, and my high-school boys
> would
> love to help, but the school is too far away.
>
> My suggestion for those sites where batteries are being stolen:  Have a
> PV-powered burgular alarm and security camera a bit down the road so the
> police can catch this thief, or at least so you can SEE who the he77 is
> taking
> those batteries!
>
> -- Marie
>
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>

Here is what happened in San Fransisco.
http://www.irecusa.org/
--- In hreg@y..., ChasMauch@a... wrote:
> Historically, most cities did their own power generation, "gas
works", waste
> water treatment, and trash collection for many years until the
recent trend
> to privitization, and many still do. No doubt some are inefficient
and
> corrupt but private operations are not always the answer,
constantly looking
> for ways to provide minimally acceptable services while cutting
corners and
> laying off workers.
> The City of Houston does its own vehicle repair - a vast and
inefficient
> operation - but they tried privitization and decided that was even
worse,
> with higher costs and no better service. Same with garbage
collection. The
> city does some and contracts some out - primarily so they will have
a basis
> for evaluating costs of private services - but there does not seem
to be much
> to choose between the two. The idea that private enterprise is
always good
> and government work is always bad seems to be popular but I don't
necessarily
> agree. The city runs some pretty good wastewater treatment plants.
> In any event, what about the propositions regarding solar? If we
wait for
> private enterprise to do it we may have a long wait. True there may
be a form
> of subsidy involved here but it doesn't come close to the billions
of dollars
> in subsidies that have gone to the nuclear and fossil fuel
industries over
> the years - and still do. I say more power to them and will be
pulling for
> all three propositions on Tuesday.
> Charlie

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Michael Phillips