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#10767 From: "ralph parrott" <ralph.parrott@...>
Date: Fri Sep 2, 2011 2:13 am
Subject: FW: Final Days: CEN Houston's "The Art of Recycling" Exhibit
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From: Tyra Rankin [mailto:tyra@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 11:24 PM
To: 'ralph parrott'
Subject: Final Days: CEN Houston's "The Art of Recycling" Exhibit

 

Ralph:

 

Would you be willing to share our Art of Recycling shows with HREG?  It is free and folks may enjoy.  We are partnered with Gulf Coast Recycling Council.

 

Best,

Tyra

 


From: a2c.10.tyra=wt.net@... [mailto:a2c.10.tyra=wt.net@...] On Behalf Of CEN Houston
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 4:36 PM
To: Tyra Rankin
Subject: Final Days: CEN Houston's "The Art of Recycling" Exhibit

 

 

HOUSTON

 

 


 

CEN Houston’s exhibit, The Art of Recycling will host two gatherings this final week of the show.

Dates:

Thursday, September 1, at 7 p.m.  Wine will be served.

Sunday, September 4, from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. Coffee will be served.

Location:

Poissant Gallery

5102 Center Street
Houston, TX 77007-3306

http://www.poissantgallery.com/

Two of the exhbit's featured artists, Jed Wallace and John Medwedeff, have appeared in Smithsonian Magazine.

 


 

 

 

 


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#10768 From: evelyn sardina <evelynsardina@...>
Date: Wed Sep 7, 2011 6:20 pm
Subject: smart meters
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Why are energy companies changing to smart meters? What are the advantages or
disadvantages of having one? Evelyn

#10769 From: Barbara and Mike McGinity <mbmcginity@...>
Date: Wed Sep 7, 2011 7:15 pm
Subject: Re: smart meters
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One advantage is to track your electricity usage throughout the day.  But that is generally not available to people at this time.  If you could track your usage, you can see what applicances, etc. pull the most electricity at what times.  Then buying electricity based on usage could provide you lower rates. Let's say you pay less for using your dishwasher at 1:00 am rather than 8:00 am.  I don't really see a disadvantage and we have had one for several months.

Barbara McGinity


From: "evelyn sardina" <evelynsardina@...>
To: "hreg" <hreg@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 1:20:39 PM
Subject: [hreg] smart meters

 

Why are energy companies changing to smart meters? What are the advantages or
disadvantages of having one? Evelyn


#10770 From: pchelectricoftexas@...
Date: Wed Sep 7, 2011 7:21 pm
Subject: Re: smart meters
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Only thing I've heard is others will be able to track you also. Hackers etc. Criminal element can tell when your home or not. Through your usage habits. Just a thought.

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From: Barbara and Mike McGinity <mbmcginity@...>
Sender: hreg@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 19:15:45 +0000 (UTC)
To: <hreg@yahoogroups.com>
ReplyTo: hreg@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [hreg] smart meters

 

One advantage is to track your electricity usage throughout the day.  But that is generally not available to people at this time.  If you could track your usage, you can see what applicances, etc. pull the most electricity at what times.  Then buying electricity based on usage could provide you lower rates. Let's say you pay less for using your dishwasher at 1:00 am rather than 8:00 am.  I don't really see a disadvantage and we have had one for several months.

Barbara McGinity


From: "evelyn sardina" <evelynsardina@...>
To: "hreg" <hreg@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 1:20:39 PM
Subject: [hreg] smart meters

 

Why are energy companies changing to smart meters? What are the advantages or
disadvantages of having one? Evelyn


#10771 From: Eileen Nehiley <enehiley@...>
Date: Wed Sep 7, 2011 7:36 pm
Subject: Re: smart meters
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Hope you are home when they make the switch. There are documented cases of blowing out electronics (TV's & computers) when they turn the power back on after installing it. It happened to my daughter in San Diego & she found a fair amount of documentation of it having happened to other people.
Eileen

On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 1:20 PM, evelyn sardina <evelynsardina@...> wrote:

Why are energy companies changing to smart meters? What are the advantages or
disadvantages of having one? Evelyn




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#10772 From: "Scarsella, Thomas M. (JSC-IC8)[DB Consulting Group, Inc.]" <Thomas.m.scarsella@...>
Date: Wed Sep 7, 2011 7:40 pm
Subject: RE: smart meters
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I believe the smart meter also sends your usage data back to the electricity provider thereby eliminating most of the need for workers to go out and physically read the meters.  I don’t know how long it takes for a meter to “pay for itself” but they must save the utility money or they wouldn’t be using them. 

 

From: hreg@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hreg@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of pchelectricoftexas@...
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 2:22 PM
To: hreg@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [hreg] smart meters

 

 

Only thing I've heard is others will be able to track you also. Hackers etc. Criminal element can tell when your home or not. Through your usage habits. Just a thought.

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®


From: Barbara and Mike McGinity <mbmcginity@...>

Sender: hreg@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 19:15:45 +0000 (UTC)

To: <hreg@yahoogroups.com>

ReplyTo: hreg@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [hreg] smart meters

 

 

One advantage is to track your electricity usage throughout the day.  But that is generally not available to people at this time.  If you could track your usage, you can see what applicances, etc. pull the most electricity at what times.  Then buying electricity based on usage could provide you lower rates. Let's say you pay less for using your dishwasher at 1:00 am rather than 8:00 am.  I don't really see a disadvantage and we have had one for several months.

Barbara McGinity


From: "evelyn sardina" <evelynsardina@...>
To: "hreg" <hreg@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2011 1:20:39 PM
Subject: [hreg] smart meters

 

Why are energy companies changing to smart meters? What are the advantages or

disadvantages of having one? Evelyn


#10773 From: "J P Malone" <JPMALONE@...>
Date: Wed Sep 7, 2011 7:57 pm
Subject: Interesting energy statistics from Rocky Mountain Institute
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#10774 From: Bashir Syed <bsyed11@...>
Date: Wed Sep 7, 2011 9:02 pm
Subject: Re: Nuke Ponderings
bsyed11@...
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OIL, GAS and Nuclear lobbies are the most owerful in this country. I was in Shanghai, last year (May 2010) attending the SNEC PV Power Expo, where I ran into a distant relative of mine, Ph.D. in Nuclear Engineering from McGill University, who was hired as Project Manager, for two Power Reactors, by a company of different name but partof old Westinghouse.They have the same design as used in Fukishymaunits. Obama's plan to promote SOLAR or Green Energy is being undermined by a subsidiary of CATO institute, which published a bookcondemning Green Energy and its AD was published in Foreign Policy Magazine, June, 2011 to poson the minds of Foreign investors or people interested imn opting for Solar Energy Solutions.
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Vice Pres., R&D
Alt-EnergyTech, Inc.
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Webster, TX 77598.
Cell: 713-560-6668
E-mail: (Preferred within US) bsyed@... & bsyed11@...(while travelling abroad)

#10775 From: "Tyra Rankin" <tyra@...>
Date: Wed Sep 7, 2011 11:08 pm
Subject: RE: smart meters
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Evelyn;

 

Smart meters are the key to consumer devices interrelating to the smart grid that enable consumers and businesses to monitor and control their use of electricity and energy.   Cell phones, IPhone, IPad – all of these devices can control and monitor energy use.  

 

CEN – Clean Economy Network is holding a Smart Grid conference in October that will provide greater education and insight into the eco-system of technologies that relate to the smart grid/smart meter system.  I’ll make sure you receive our event notices.

 

Cheers,

Tyra

 


From: hreg@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hreg@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of evelyn sardina
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:21 PM
To: hreg
Subject: [hreg] smart meters

 

 

Why are energy companies changing to smart meters? What are the advantages or

disadvantages of having one? Evelyn


#10776 From: "Tyra Rankin" <tyra@...>
Date: Thu Sep 8, 2011 12:33 am
Subject: FW: Complimentary Webinar: Achieving High Performance in Smart Grid Communications
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Evelyn:

 

If you would like to learn more about the requirements for the smart grid infrastructure – here is a webinar.

Tyra

 


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#10777 From: Garth & Kim Travis <gartht@...>
Date: Thu Sep 8, 2011 12:38 am
Subject: Re: smart meters
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Greetings,
Health issues are a major disadvantage.  Anyone who is emf sensitive
will have their life destroyed when they are installed in the area where
they live.  There are a few towns that have passed laws prohibiting them
for this reason.  I wish they would be banned permanently, as they will
make my life misery.

Bright Blessings,
Garth & Kim Travis
www.TheRoseColoredForest.com
Bedias, Texas
936-395-0110

On 9/7/2011 1:20 PM, evelyn sardina wrote:
> Why are energy companies changing to smart meters? What are the
> advantages or
> disadvantages of having one? Evelyn
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#10778 From: "kevin conlin" <kevin@...>
Date: Thu Sep 8, 2011 12:49 am
Subject: RE: smart meters
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They’re also setting the stage for time of day pricing, and one downside is a PV system owner no longer gets the retail rate for excess power sent back into the grid.

 

Kevin Conlin

Heliosolar Design Inc

PO Box 1938

Alief, TX 77411

281-202-9629

kevin@...

 

 

 

 

From: hreg@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hreg@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of evelyn sardina
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:21 PM
To: hreg
Subject: [hreg] smart meters

 

 

Why are energy companies changing to smart meters? What are the advantages or

disadvantages of having one? Evelyn


#10779 From: Jimmy Garrett <jimmy.garrett@...>
Date: Thu Sep 8, 2011 12:52 am
Subject: Re: smart meters
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That's actually not totally true. There are two retail providers who buy back at full retail up to 500kwh, which is more than any average homeowner will export in one months time.

Regards,

Jimmy Garrett 
Alternative Power Solutions
Cell:     (713) 494-6795
Office:  (713) 595-6375
Fax:     (713) 595-6382

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 7, 2011, at 7:49 PM, "kevin conlin" <kevin@...> wrote:

 

They’re also setting the stage for time of day pricing, and one downside is a PV system owner no longer gets the retail rate for excess power sent back into the grid.

 

Kevin Conlin

Heliosolar Design Inc

PO Box 1938

Alief, TX 77411

281-202-9629

kevin@...

 

 

 

 

From: hreg@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hreg@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of evelyn sardina
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:21 PM
To: hreg
Subject: [hreg] smart meters

 

 

Why are energy companies changing to smart meters? What are the advantages or

disadvantages of having one? Evelyn


#10780 From: "kevin conlin" <kevin@...>
Date: Thu Sep 8, 2011 12:59 am
Subject: RE: smart meters
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That’s good to hear, what is CenterPoint’s policy?

 

Kevin Conlin

Heliosolar Design Inc

PO Box 1938

Alief, TX 77411

281-202-9629

kevin@...

 

 

 

 

From: hreg@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hreg@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy Garrett
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 7:52 PM
To: hreg@yahoogroups.com
Cc: <hreg@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [hreg] smart meters

 

 

That's actually not totally true. There are two retail providers who buy back at full retail up to 500kwh, which is more than any average homeowner will export in one months time.

Regards,

 

Jimmy Garrett 

Alternative Power Solutions

Cell:     (713) 494-6795

Office:  (713) 595-6375

Fax:     (713) 595-6382

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2011, at 7:49 PM, "kevin conlin" <kevin@...> wrote:

 

They’re also setting the stage for time of day pricing, and one downside is a PV system owner no longer gets the retail rate for excess power sent back into the grid.

 

Kevin Conlin

Heliosolar Design Inc

PO Box 1938

Alief, TX 77411

281-202-9629

kevin@...

 

 

 

 

From: hreg@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hreg@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of evelyn sardina
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:21 PM
To: hreg
Subject: [hreg] smart meters

 

 

Why are energy companies changing to smart meters? What are the advantages or

disadvantages of having one? Evelyn


#10781 From: Jimmy Garrett <jimmy.garrett@...>
Date: Thu Sep 8, 2011 1:10 am
Subject: Re: smart meters
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Centerpoint leaves it up to the retailer to decide. The smart meter tracks imported and exported kwh so in some ways, they can help homeowners with a PV system e sure they're getting accurate measurement rather than the meter flowing forward and backward. Kind of a trade off.

Regards,

Jimmy Garrett 
Alternative Power Solutions
Cell:     (713) 494-6795
Office:  (713) 595-6375
Fax:     (713) 595-6382

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 7, 2011, at 7:59 PM, "kevin conlin" <kevin@...> wrote:

 

That’s good to hear, what is CenterPoint’s policy?

 

Kevin Conlin

Heliosolar Design Inc

PO Box 1938

Alief, TX 77411

281-202-9629

kevin@...

 

 

 

 

From: hreg@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hreg@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy Garrett
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 7:52 PM
To: hreg@yahoogroups.com
Cc: <hreg@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [hreg] smart meters

 

 

That's actually not totally true. There are two retail providers who buy back at full retail up to 500kwh, which is more than any average homeowner will export in one months time.

Regards,

 

Jimmy Garrett 

Alternative Power Solutions

Cell:     (713) 494-6795

Office:  (713) 595-6375

Fax:     (713) 595-6382

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2011, at 7:49 PM, "kevin conlin" <kevin@...> wrote:

 

They’re also setting the stage for time of day pricing, and one downside is a PV system owner no longer gets the retail rate for excess power sent back into the grid.

 

Kevin Conlin

Heliosolar Design Inc

PO Box 1938

Alief, TX 77411

281-202-9629

kevin@...

 

 

 

 

From: hreg@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hreg@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of evelyn sardina
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:21 PM
To: hreg
Subject: [hreg] smart meters

 

 

Why are energy companies changing to smart meters? What are the advantages or

disadvantages of having one? Evelyn


#10782 From: "ralph parrott" <ralph.parrott@...>
Date: Thu Sep 8, 2011 1:13 am
Subject: FW: Houston's biggest solar event is fast approaching
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Date: Thu Sep 8, 2011 1:13 pm
Subject: Mayor Annise Parker and Partners Announce Launch of Houston Drives Electric
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Mayor Annise Parker and Partners Announce Launch of Houston Drives Electric
Houston continues leadership in implementing clean and economic driving alternatives
 
September 8, 2011 – The City of Houston and its electric vehicle partners today launch “Houston Drives Electric,” a comprehensive electric vehicle program. The press event will highlight new additions to the City’s electric vehicle and plug-in hybrid fleet as well as new infrastructure to support EV drivers. “Houston Drives Electric” takes place on Thursday, September 8th at 11 am at H-E-B, 5225 Buffalo Speedway.
 
“The City of Houston is proud of its vision and ongoing leadership in electric vehicle and plug-in hybrid technology,” said Mayor Annise Parker.  “This innovative technology is part of our alternative transportation future, helping the City save money by reducing gasoline costs while also reducing in-city tailpipe emissions. Due to the significant support from the City’s partners, Houstonians can feel confident about charging their cars anywhere.”
 
What is Houston Drives Electric?
City Fleet Vehicles: The City of Houston recently purchased two Nissan Leafs.  These are the first all-electric vehicles in the City’s fleet.  They will be on display at the event. Another 23 electric vehicles will be added to the City fleet by year’s end, bringing the 2011 total to 40 electric and plug-in hybrids.
 
Charging Station Infrastructure on City Property:  In addition to the privately funded charging station commitment made last year by NRG EV Services (eVgo), the City, working with its partner ECOtality, will be installing 28 additional public charging stations at City libraries and parks (funded by State Energy Conservation Office and EPA Climate Showcase Communities grant funds).  GRIDbot will handle the installation of an additional 28 municipal charging stations in the parking garage underneath Tranquility Park for City fleet vehicles (funded by TCEQ grant funds).
 
Planning for the Future: A robust stakeholder process led by the City, ECOtality and the Houston Advanced Research Center (HARC), has led to the development of major planning documents to guide the City’s deployment of electric vehicle infrastructure.  These documents include the Electric Vehicle Charging Infrastructure Deployment Guidelines, Long-Range Electric Vehicle Charging Infrastructure Plan and Micro-Climate Plan.
 
Education: The City has also developed a new website to educate residents about electric vehicles and give them the resources needed to make smart decisions about electric vehicle technology: www.greenhoustontx.gov/houstondriveselectric
 
The City’s partners are making major announcements regarding their infrastructure commitment to Houston:
·         NRG’s eVgo will unveil Houston’s first Freedom Station site.  The eVgo electric vehicle charging network now includes Freedom Station sites, located at the H-E-B Buffalo Speedway Market and the Shops at Houston Center in downtown Houston. eVgo subscribers will be able to plug in their vehicles while they are shopping and take advantage of a new charger that can add 30 miles of range in as little as 10 minutes.  The eVgo Freedom Station sites are, currently, part of the only network in the nation to offer this extremely fast charging option.
 
·         In addition to charging stations installed on City property, ECOtality will announce details about Houston’s participation in The EV Project.  As part of The EV Project, the largest rollout of EVs and EV charging infrastructure in history, ECOtality has plans to install over 200 charging stations in the Houston area over the coming months. ECOtality will oversee the installation of approximately 14,000 commercial and residential charging stations in 18 major cities and metropolitan areas in six states and the District of Columbia. The project is a public-private partnership, funded in part by the U.S. Department of Energy through a federal stimulus grant and made possible by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA).
 
The City of Houston has long been considered the energy capital of the world, and the City is committed to continuing its leadership in energy, and alternative transportation.  City of Houston partnerships with eVgo, GRIDbot and ECOtality will ensure Houston’s continued commitment to implementing and promoting electric vehicle technology, powered by electricity generated from domestic fuels, including zero-emission wind in Texas.  Electric vehicle technology has the potential over time to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, improve air quality, and save Houstonians money.
 
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#10784 From: Philip Timmons <philiptimmons@...>
Date: Thu Sep 8, 2011 2:03 pm
Subject: RE: smart meters
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At first pass, it looks like the combination of Time of Use metering and Solar
may be rather favorable?  

Especially Solar Thermal over PV, as it appears the Peak Pricing nearly matches
the daily lag-time that Solar Thermal has compared to PV.  

Anyone looked at that aspect and seen some angles on it?  Key Features being
that Daytime Peak billing works out to double or triple Deep Night.

We are looking at building a simple Monitoring System that does Load Shedding
(shuts off part of the local load), during the Daily Peak, so that the overall
Solar production stays positive during the Daytime Peak for a Net Metering
model, and then lets the loads come back on when there is a good surplus, or
late night.



--- On Wed, 9/7/11, kevin conlin <kevin@...> wrote:

From: kevin conlin <kevin@...>
Subject: RE: [hreg] smart meters
To: hreg@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 7, 2011, 7:49 PM


       They’re also setting the stage for time of day pricing, and one downside
is a PV system owner no longer gets the retail rate for excess power sent back
into the grid.  

Kevin ConlinHeliosolar Design IncPO Box 1938Alief, TX
77411281-202-9629kevin@...        

From: hreg@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hreg@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of evelyn
sardina
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:21 PM
To: hreg
Subject: [hreg] smart meters    Why are energy companies changing to smart
meters? What are the advantages or disadvantages of having one? Evelyn

#10785 From: evelyn sardina <evelynsardina@...>
Date: Thu Sep 8, 2011 4:15 pm
Subject: Re: smart meters
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Thanks to everyone that responded. I read an article where people where having to
fight over charges. Apparrently they will charge different rates and if you are not aware of them you can  be over paying. I think it was the Chronicle that said that many customers in different states were having this problem. I guess there is no real advantage to a regular person without a solar system. I hear you can opt out of having them. Would this be a wise choice?

--- On Wed, 9/7/11, Jimmy Garrett <jimmy.garrett@...> wrote:

From: Jimmy Garrett <jimmy.garrett@...>
Subject: Re: [hreg] smart meters
To: "hreg@yahoogroups.com" <hreg@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 7, 2011, 8:10 PM

 
Centerpoint leaves it up to the retailer to decide. The smart meter tracks imported and exported kwh so in some ways, they can help homeowners with a PV system e sure they're getting accurate measurement rather than the meter flowing forward and backward. Kind of a trade off.

Regards,

Jimmy Garrett 
Alternative Power Solutions
Cell:     (713) 494-6795
Office:  (713) 595-6375
Fax:     (713) 595-6382

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 7, 2011, at 7:59 PM, "kevin conlin" <kevin@...> wrote:

 

That’s good to hear, what is CenterPoint’s policy?

 

Kevin Conlin

Heliosolar Design Inc

PO Box 1938

Alief, TX 77411

281-202-9629

kevin@...

 

 

 

 

From: hreg@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hreg@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy Garrett
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 7:52 PM
To: hreg@yahoogroups.com
Cc: <hreg@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [hreg] smart meters

 

 

That's actually not totally true. There are two retail providers who buy back at full retail up to 500kwh, which is more than any average homeowner will export in one months time.

Regards,

 

Jimmy Garrett 

Alternative Power Solutions

Cell:     (713) 494-6795

Office:  (713) 595-6375

Fax:     (713) 595-6382

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 7, 2011, at 7:49 PM, "kevin conlin" <kevin@...> wrote:

 

They’re also setting the stage for time of day pricing, and one downside is a PV system owner no longer gets the retail rate for excess power sent back into the grid.

 

Kevin Conlin

Heliosolar Design Inc

PO Box 1938

Alief, TX 77411

281-202-9629

kevin@...

 

 

 

 

From: hreg@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hreg@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of evelyn sardina
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:21 PM
To: hreg
Subject: [hreg] smart meters

 

 

Why are energy companies changing to smart meters? What are the advantages or

disadvantages of having one? Evelyn


#10786 From: Gary Beck <ecoegr@...>
Date: Thu Sep 8, 2011 6:00 pm
Subject: Re: smart meters
mrgebeck
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Who are those retailers?

Sent from Samsung mobile

Jimmy Garrett <jimmy.garrett@...> wrote:

>That's actually not totally true. There are two retail providers who buy back
at full retail up to 500kwh, which is more than any average homeowner will
export in one months time.
>
>Regards,
>
>Jimmy Garrett
>Alternative Power Solutions
>Cell:     (713) 494-6795
>Office:  (713) 595-6375
>Fax:     (713) 595-6382
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Sep 7, 2011, at 7:49 PM, "kevin conlin" <kevin@...> wrote:
>
>> They’re also setting the stage for time of day pricing, and one downside is
a PV system owner no longer gets the retail rate for excess power sent back into
the grid.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kevin Conlin
>>
>> Heliosolar Design Inc
>>
>> PO Box 1938
>>
>> Alief, TX 77411
>>
>> 281-202-9629
>>
>> kevin@...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: hreg@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hreg@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of evelyn
sardina
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:21 PM
>> To: hreg
>> Subject: [hreg] smart meters
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Why are energy companies changing to smart meters? What are the advantages or
>>
>> disadvantages of having one? Evelyn
>>
>>
>>

#10787 From: Gary Beck <ecoegr@...>
Date: Thu Sep 8, 2011 6:10 pm
Subject: Re: smart meters
mrgebeck
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I do not think the EMF energy levels for a smart meter can be any higher than
any other type of radio signal, wi-fi, or cell phone signal. So if you need to
avoid those levels, you are out of luck if you live anywhere except Fiji (Can
you here me now?)

Sent from Samsung mobile

Garth & Kim Travis <gartht@...> wrote:

>Greetings,
>Health issues are a major disadvantage.  Anyone who is emf sensitive
>will have their life destroyed when they are installed in the area where
>they live.  There are a few towns that have passed laws prohibiting them
>for this reason.  I wish they would be banned permanently, as they will
>make my life misery.
>
>Bright Blessings,
>Garth & Kim Travis
>www.TheRoseColoredForest.com
>Bedias, Texas
>936-395-0110
>
>On 9/7/2011 1:20 PM, evelyn sardina wrote:
>> Why are energy companies changing to smart meters? What are the
>> advantages or
>> disadvantages of having one? Evelyn
>>
>>
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#10788 From: "Jay Ring" <public@...>
Date: Thu Sep 8, 2011 6:39 pm
Subject: Re: smart meters
jay.ring...
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Yeah I don't pretend to be an expert on "EMF sensitivity", but I'm pretty
skeptical about it too.

Most of the useful spectrum is already in use.  Between TV (VHF, UHF), radio
(AM, FM), Ham Radio (almost the whole spectrum), the ISM bands, Citizen's Band,
Cellular (GSM, CDMA), Police/Emergency, Satellite, Shortwave, Global
Positioning, Inmarsat, and others...

The smart meter isn't going to expose you to anything you aren't already exposed
to.  The increase in your exposure is going to be pretty close to negligible.

I mean, I have no doubt that there are people who report sensitivity, but then
again, I have no doubt that people report good results from faith healers
either.  Doesn't mean I take them at face value though.







--- In hreg@yahoogroups.com, Gary Beck <ecoegr@...> wrote:
>
> I do not think the EMF energy levels for a smart meter can be any higher than
any other type of radio signal, wi-fi, or cell phone signal. So if you need to
avoid those levels, you are out of luck if you live anywhere except Fiji (Can
you here me now?)
>
> Sent from Samsung mobile
>
> Garth & Kim Travis <gartht@...> wrote:
>
> >Greetings,
> >Health issues are a major disadvantage.  Anyone who is emf sensitive
> >will have their life destroyed when they are installed in the area where
> >they live.  There are a few towns that have passed laws prohibiting them
> >for this reason.  I wish they would be banned permanently, as they will
> >make my life misery.
> >
> >Bright Blessings,
> >Garth & Kim Travis
> >www.TheRoseColoredForest.com
> >Bedias, Texas
> >936-395-0110
> >
> >On 9/7/2011 1:20 PM, evelyn sardina wrote:
> >> Why are energy companies changing to smart meters? What are the
> >> advantages or
> >> disadvantages of having one? Evelyn
> >>
> >>
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#10789 From: Garth & Kim Travis <gartht@...>
Date: Thu Sep 8, 2011 7:00 pm
Subject: Re: smart meters
airdriel
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Greetings,

Please, do research and know what you are talking about.  The smart
meters have a repeater module every tenth or so meter that really sends
out microwaves, at alarming levels.  Much higher than was promised.

And, I don't go anywhere where wifi is available, that is why I live on
a farm, eating the best quality of food available and staying healthy.
I use a land line for phone and internet.

The fastest growing disability is MCS, many of whom are EMF sensitive.
Last count, almost 17% of the population was getting sick from
fragrances, cleaning products especially dryer sheets and EMF.  That
number is climbing, can you hear me now?

Bright Blessings,
Garth & Kim Travis
www.TheRoseColoredForest.com
Bedias, Texas
936-395-0110

On 9/8/2011 1:10 PM, Gary Beck wrote:
> I do not think the EMF energy levels for a smart meter can be any higher
> than any other type of radio signal, wi-fi, or cell phone signal. So if
> you need to avoid those levels, you are out of luck if you live anywhere
> except Fiji (Can you here me now?)
>
>

#10790 From: Garth & Kim Travis <gartht@...>
Date: Fri Sep 9, 2011 10:43 pm
Subject: Smart Meters
airdriel
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Greetings,

For those who would like to know the facts, here is but one of many web
sites detailing the health dangers of smart meters.

   http://stopsmartmeters.org

While the sight may be a bit tin-hatty, it does have some rather
interesting facts on it.

--
Bright Blessings,
Garth & Kim Travis
www.TheRoseColoredForest.com
Bedias, Texas
936-395-0110

#10791 From: ben bonnett <benelect@...>
Date: Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:12 am
Subject: Re: Smart Meters
lordgott
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I'm no expert but this bit caught my ey:

If you already have a smart meter, you have the right to have it removed from your home. Purchase an analog meter at an electricity supply shop and hire an electrician to swap it out. Then lock it up so your utility cant steal it.

ummm, as far as i know the utility OWNS the meter and the wiring back to their grid and we own from the meter to our houses, etc..
This electrician wont be swapping meters anytime soon
Ben Bonnett


On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Garth & Kim Travis <gartht@...> wrote:

Greetings,

For those who would like to know the facts, here is but one of many web
sites detailing the health dangers of smart meters.

http://stopsmartmeters.org

While the sight may be a bit tin-hatty, it does have some rather
interesting facts on it.

--
Bright Blessings,
Garth & Kim Travis
www.TheRoseColoredForest.com
Bedias, Texas
936-395-0110



#10792 From: Alyssa Burgin <aburgin4peace@...>
Date: Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:19 am
Subject: Re: Smart Meters
aburgin4peace
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Yes, Ben is correct--the utility sets the meter, you own the electrical service panel, also known as the breaker or fuse box, and everything wired from it into your home. I'm a former general contractor.

Alyssa Burgin


On Friday, September 9, 2011, ben bonnett <benelect@...> wrote:
>
>
> I'm no expert but this bit caught my ey:
>
> If you already have a smart meter, you have the right to have it removed from your home. Purchase an analog meter at an electricity supply shop and hire an electrician to swap it out. Then lock it up so your utility cant steal it.
>
> ummm, as far as i know the utility OWNS the meter and the wiring back to their grid and we own from the meter to our houses, etc..
>
> This electrician wont be swapping meters anytime soon
>
> Ben Bonnett
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Garth & Kim Travis <gartht@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> For those who would like to know the facts, here is but one of many web
>> sites detailing the health dangers of smart meters.
>>
>> http://stopsmartmeters.org<http://stopsmartmeters.org/>
>>
>> While the sight may be a bit tin-hatty, it does have some rather
>> interesting facts on it.
>>
>> --
>> Bright Blessings,
>> Garth & Kim Travis
>> www.TheRoseColoredForest.com<http://www.therosecoloredforest.com/>
>> Bedias, Texas
>> 936-395-0110<tel:936-395-0110>
>
>
>
>

#10793 From: Gary Beck <ecoegr@...>
Date: Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:43 am
Subject: Re: smart meters
mrgebeck
Send Email Send Email
 

There is lots of interesting stuff on the internet. Let the surfer beware.

A repeater module every tenth or so meter? Not sure what you mean by that. I have one meter on my house, so within ten houses away there will be a repeater module with a stronger radio signal? And that is the one that is cooking that homeowner with high microwave radiation? Or are all of them cooking us?

If so, a minimum of one out of ten smart meter homes needs to start a class action suite. A whopper of a suite for sure since the deep pockets to aim for are those wealthy utility companies.

I have a hard time with this idea having any logical base so I must think it may be just another internet based fable. Or,...it may just be the beginning of the real ' Rise of the Machines'.

Since all utility companies are evil and get their matching orders from Cheney, it must be so. When the electrical device manufacturer was designing and testing the first public enslaving smart units, they must have had a diabolical design checklist. Maybe it read something like this...

1. Smart meter to communicate to power control stationa to help avoid brownouts and total grid loss. Check.
2. Smart meter to be able to be easily changed out to avoid loss of power to our paying customers. Check
3. Smart meter to be reliable, eco friendly and cost effective. Check.
4. Smart meter to either irradiate or microwave every tenth paying customer until medium well so as to cause massive lawsuit and distrust amongst the general public for a minimum of one generation of customers. Check.

On Sep 8, 2011 1:58 PM, "Garth & Kim Travis" <gartht@...> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> Please, do research and know what you are talking about. The smart
> meters have a repeater module every tenth or so meter that really sends
> out microwaves, at alarming levels. Much higher than was promised.
>
> And, I don't go anywhere where wifi is available, that is why I live on
> a farm, eating the best quality of food available and staying healthy.
> I use a land line for phone and internet.
>
> The fastest growing disability is MCS, many of whom are EMF sensitive.
> Last count, almost 17% of the population was getting sick from
> fragrances, cleaning products especially dryer sheets and EMF. That
> number is climbing, can you hear me now?
>
> Bright Blessings,
> Garth & Kim Travis
> www.TheRoseColoredForest.com
> Bedias, Texas
> 936-395-0110
>
> On 9/8/2011 1:10 PM, Gary Beck wrote:
>> I do not think the EMF energy levels for a smart meter can be any higher
>> than any other type of radio signal, wi-fi, or cell phone signal. So if
>> you need to avoid those levels, you are out of luck if you live anywhere
>> except Fiji (Can you here me now?)
>>
>>

#10794 From: Garth & Kim Travis <gartht@...>
Date: Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:32 am
Subject: Re: Smart Meters
airdriel
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Greetings,

I have seen that mentioned on the  immune list, apparently different
states have different rules and ways of doing things.  I know my meter
is owned by my power coop.

Bright Blessings,
Garth & Kim Travis
www.TheRoseColoredForest.com
Bedias, Texas
936-395-0110

On 9/9/2011 10:12 PM, ben bonnett wrote:
> I'm no expert but this bit caught my ey:
>
>   If you already have a smart meter, you have the right to have it
> removed from your home. Purchase an analog meter at an electricity
> supply shop and hire an electrician to swap it out.  Then lock it up so
> your utility cant steal it.
>
> ummm, as far as i know the utility OWNS the meter and the wiring back to
> their grid and we own from the meter to our houses, etc..
> This electrician wont be swapping meters anytime soon
> Ben Bonnett
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Garth & Kim Travis
> <gartht@... <mailto:gartht@...>> wrote:
>
>     __
>
>     Greetings,
>
>     For those who would like to know the facts, here is but one of many web
>     sites detailing the health dangers of smart meters.
>
>     http://stopsmartmeters.org <http://stopsmartmeters.org/>
>
>     While the sight may be a bit tin-hatty, it does have some rather
>     interesting facts on it.
>
>     --
>     Bright Blessings,
>     Garth & Kim Travis
>     www.TheRoseColoredForest.com <http://www.therosecoloredforest.com/>
>     Bedias, Texas
>     936-395-0110 <tel:936-395-0110>
>
>
>
>
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>
> Version: 2012.0.1796 / Virus Database: 2082/4487 - Release Date: 09/09/11
>

#10795 From: Garth & Kim Travis <gartht@...>
Date: Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:42 am
Subject: Re: smart meters
airdriel
Send Email Send Email
 
Greetings,
It is not a conspiracy, any more than dryer sheets are.  But, people are
getting very sick, about 3% of the population is totally disabled by
stuff that is supposed to be safe.  Another 14% is having their life
made into a prison, by not being able to be around stuff.

Our knowledge is not complete, the precautionary principle should be
called into play against smart meters.  And all the chemicals that we
are putting into our environment without proper knowledge.

I will admit, that much of what is written is sensationalist.  But, that
seems to be the only way of reaching many people, sad isn't it?  With
the drought, fires and other fun of this summer, I don't have much time
to do a lot of research for others.  I know there are better web sites,
but as I said, that was for starters.

More and more of the population is starting to realize that MCS and EMF
sensitivities are not some left leaning plot.  They are real, it is sad
because people are learning the hard way.  I have suffered from MCS for
over 10 years now and have watched the numbers come up and the attitudes
change.  There are many places I can't go, because of wifi and EMF
issues.  I pray that those of you who think I am nuts, don't learn the
hard way.  I would not wish my living restrictions on my worst enemy.

Bright Blessings,
Garth & Kim Travis
www.TheRoseColoredForest.com
Bedias, Texas
936-395-0110

On 9/9/2011 11:43 PM, Gary Beck wrote:
> There is lots of interesting stuff on the internet. Let the surfer beware.
>
> A repeater module every tenth or so meter? Not sure what you mean by
> that. I have one meter on my house, so within ten houses away there will
> be a repeater module with a stronger radio signal? And that is the one
> that is cooking that homeowner with high microwave radiation? Or are all
> of them cooking us?
>
> If so, a minimum of one out of ten smart meter homes needs to start a
> class action suite. A whopper of a suite for sure since the deep pockets
> to aim for are those wealthy utility companies.
>
> I have a hard time with this idea having any logical base so I must
> think it may be just another internet based fable. Or,...it may just be
> the beginning of the real ' Rise of the Machines'.
>
> Since all utility companies are evil and get their matching orders from
> Cheney, it must be so. When the electrical device manufacturer was
> designing and testing the first public enslaving smart units, they must
> have had a diabolical design checklist. Maybe it read something like this...
>
> 1. Smart meter to communicate to power control stationa to help avoid
> brownouts and total grid loss.  Check.
> 2. Smart meter to be able to be easily changed out to avoid loss of
> power to our paying customers. Check
> 3. Smart meter to be reliable, eco friendly and cost effective. Check.
> 4. Smart meter to either irradiate or microwave every tenth paying
> customer until medium well so as to cause massive lawsuit and distrust
> amongst the general public for a minimum of one generation of customers.
> Check.
>

#10796 From: "Gary Beck" <ecoegr@...>
Date: Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:59 pm
Subject: RE: smart meters
mrgebeck
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I have no problem with agreeing to chemical sensitivities since humans did not evolve around some of the new chemical things we are capable of inventing and adopting.

The chemistry or biological reactions are convoluted, individually complex, capable of traveling and changing by hosts, and even evolving across effected human generations. It is just not possible to test for every possibility that may take a generation or two to become visible.

 

I also have no problem with those that are concerned about the smart meter aspects of 'Big Brother' taking over our lives (Both '1984' and '2001 A Space Odyssey' were a long time ago). Same idea with smart phone GPS tracking etc. But I like to use GPS so I risk it. I also like electricity and I don't want more power plants built than are required, so I will tolerate smart meters. If I wanted to be off grid I could probably do it (build small, go all solar, use paper maps, buy with cash, not pay taxes,…hmmm…)

 

Speaking like a nerd, The power density of an electromagnetic energy wave diminishes with the either the simple square of the distance and is easily directionally shielded by something as simple as aluminum foil. Not trusting the designer? Remember the aluminum cone hats in 'Signs'? They would work against most alien brain scans so I think they would also work against smart meters - though a full aluminum body wrap might be needed.

 

Speaking like an business entrepreneur, I simply have a problem with the concept of a 'designed-to-be-unhealthy' smart meter when it would cost less in the long run to design it to be healthy.  It could happen, but very unlikely. That is because these types of devices will be both designed by teams of hundreds of people (all keeping the deadly secret hidden?) and also made by multiple competing companies (no sales guy saying 'Buy ours because it will not kill your customers'?). So it is 'probably' very unlikely one consistently unhealthy design would make it into the public sector.

 

Gary Beck,

Eco-Holdings LLC

www.texasengineer.com 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: hreg@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hreg@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Garth & Kim Travis
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 6:43 AM
To: hreg@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [hreg] smart meters

 

Greetings,

It is not a conspiracy, any more than dryer sheets are.  But, people are getting very sick, about 3% of the population is totally disabled by stuff that is supposed to be safe.  Another 14% is having their life made into a prison, by not being able to be around stuff.

 

Our knowledge is not complete, the precautionary principle should be called into play against smart meters.  And all the chemicals that we are putting into our environment without proper knowledge.

 

I will admit, that much of what is written is sensationalist.  But, that seems to be the only way of reaching many people, sad isn't it?  With the drought, fires and other fun of this summer, I don't have much time to do a lot of research for others.  I know there are better web sites, but as I said, that was for starters.

 

More and more of the population is starting to realize that MCS and EMF sensitivities are not some left leaning plot.  They are real, it is sad because people are learning the hard way.  I have suffered from MCS for over 10 years now and have watched the numbers come up and the attitudes change.  There are many places I can't go, because of wifi and EMF issues.  I pray that those of you who think I am nuts, don't learn the hard way.  I would not wish my living restrictions on my worst enemy.

 

Bright Blessings,

Garth & Kim Travis

www.TheRoseColoredForest.com

Bedias, Texas

936-395-0110

 

On 9/9/2011 11:43 PM, Gary Beck wrote:

> There is lots of interesting stuff on the internet. Let the surfer beware.

> 

> A repeater module every tenth or so meter? Not sure what you mean by

> that. I have one meter on my house, so within ten houses away there

> will be a repeater module with a stronger radio signal? And that is

> the one that is cooking that homeowner with high microwave radiation?

> Or are all of them cooking us?

> 

> If so, a minimum of one out of ten smart meter homes needs to start a

> class action suite. A whopper of a suite for sure since the deep

> pockets to aim for are those wealthy utility companies.

> 

> I have a hard time with this idea having any logical base so I must

> think it may be just another internet based fable. Or,...it may just

> be the beginning of the real ' Rise of the Machines'.

> 

> Since all utility companies are evil and get their matching orders

> from Cheney, it must be so. When the electrical device manufacturer

> was designing and testing the first public enslaving smart units, they

> must have had a diabolical design checklist. Maybe it read something like this...

> 

> 1. Smart meter to communicate to power control stationa to help avoid

> brownouts and total grid loss.  Check.

> 2. Smart meter to be able to be easily changed out to avoid loss of

> power to our paying customers. Check 3. Smart meter to be reliable,

> eco friendly and cost effective. Check.

> 4. Smart meter to either irradiate or microwave every tenth paying

> customer until medium well so as to cause massive lawsuit and distrust

> amongst the general public for a minimum of one generation of customers.

> Check.

> 

 

 

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