Matt,
I will try not insult you because I thought that you were very intelligent
person.
What is wrong with you, have you lost it completely?
Please read all the responses you made and seek medical help. It may not be
too late.
All the glory and t-shirts you mention earlier, well what is up with the one
pair of shorts and one pair of t-shirt you have been wearing for the past
four years.
Stop making ass of yourself.
Bozena
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Mahoney [mailto:matmahoney@...]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 5:46 PM
To: hr100@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [hr100] Hardrock Hundred Clarification
--- "Maslanka, Bozena (SC)" <bmaslank@...>
wrote:
> Matt,
> Since you sound like you have a lot of money to
> spend, can you pay my entry
> fee?
Sure, at Wickham Park :-)
> Please don't forget that not everyone is use to
> sleeping in one person tent
> and take baths in cold rivers.
I think it's good training. I don't know if anyone
else has noticed but it seems to me that people that
demand the most comfort outside the race are the first
ones to drop out when the going gets tough.
> Please be more sensitive making silly suggestions.
I don't think it's silly. If you have 200 entrants
and 100 slots, then half of them aren't going to like
the selection process no matter how fair you try to
make it. I think it's noble that Hardrock intends to
keep the entry fee below what the market will bear,
but then they just have to substitute some other
arbitrary hurdle to limit entries. This could be a
lottery (like Western States), a trail work
requirement (like Wasatch), or tougher qualifying
standards (like the world championships or Ironman).
"None of the above" is not an option. You must choose
names somehow, and there is no way to do it and still
keep everyone happy.
The point of my previous post was to ask what is so
special about Hardrock that it fills up when there are
plenty of cheap or free races? It is not like you
have to have a lot of money to run ultras. But if you
want prestige, I think you should have to pay for it.
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Come on people; get a sense of humor!
Get a life outside of running.
What happened to the spirit of charity
and unity that has been ballyhooed since
9-11?
Dennis Herr
-----Original Message-----
From: Maslanka, Bozena (SC) [mailto:bmaslank@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:08 AM
To: 'hr100@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [hr100] Hardrock Hundred Clarification
Matt,
I will try not insult you because I thought that you were very intelligent
person.
What is wrong with you, have you lost it completely?
Please read all the responses you made and seek medical help. It may not be
too late.
All the glory and t-shirts you mention earlier, well what is up with the one
pair of shorts and one pair of t-shirt you have been wearing for the past
four years.
Stop making ass of yourself.
Bozena
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Mahoney [mailto:matmahoney@...]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 5:46 PM
To: hr100@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [hr100] Hardrock Hundred Clarification
--- "Maslanka, Bozena (SC)" <bmaslank@...>
wrote:
> Matt,
> Since you sound like you have a lot of money to
> spend, can you pay my entry
> fee?
Sure, at Wickham Park :-)
> Please don't forget that not everyone is use to
> sleeping in one person tent
> and take baths in cold rivers.
I think it's good training. I don't know if anyone
else has noticed but it seems to me that people that
demand the most comfort outside the race are the first
ones to drop out when the going gets tough.
> Please be more sensitive making silly suggestions.
I don't think it's silly. If you have 200 entrants
and 100 slots, then half of them aren't going to like
the selection process no matter how fair you try to
make it. I think it's noble that Hardrock intends to
keep the entry fee below what the market will bear,
but then they just have to substitute some other
arbitrary hurdle to limit entries. This could be a
lottery (like Western States), a trail work
requirement (like Wasatch), or tougher qualifying
standards (like the world championships or Ironman).
"None of the above" is not an option. You must choose
names somehow, and there is no way to do it and still
keep everyone happy.
The point of my previous post was to ask what is so
special about Hardrock that it fills up when there are
plenty of cheap or free races? It is not like you
have to have a lot of money to run ultras. But if you
want prestige, I think you should have to pay for it.
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I for one am about to turn off the Hardrock List. What is this need people feel
to publicly castigate and humiliate others, whether deserved or not?? If you
have a problem with somebody, or their comments, please send them privately.
This whole line of conversation has been totally useless. Last summer the Board
of Directors asked for comments and suggestions on how to most fairly limit the
entries. They made their decision in the fall and posted it in the Stan's
Hardrock webpage. Now we have the upcoming year to test it and to find out if
it is even necessary. THEN probably new suggestions would be meaningful. Right
now we are sounding just like the Ultralist and I doubt I am the only one who is
sick of it.
Sorry if I sounded self-centered in my last post. I
guess I am. I didn't mean to insult everyone that
stays in a hotel in Silverton. I camp because I'm
cheap.
I don't want to pay a higher entry fee at Hardrock.
What I am trying to say is there isn't any painless
way to limit entries. We could have everyone with
last names starting with A through L run next year and
M through Z in 2003. I know that's arbitrary, but so
is every other method that anyone has come up with.
Somebody isn't going to like it.
I enjoy Hardrock because it's a chance to see my
friends, although I seem to have fewer of them now.
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Jimmy, Oh come on, try not to be so hard on Matt. He is initiating a
discussion not asking for an on-line personnality inventory and analysis.
Any discussion the entry proceedure is bound to be contentious, it needs to
be thought provoking if we are to come up with any new approaches. Most of
us are too far gone to be helped by any drive-up psychoanalysis. That is
what makes us such a "colorful" bunch, and possibly why we enjoy each
other's company at Hardrock.
As an aside; I'm glad I'm not the person who has to decide just how many
entries and the selection criteria that allows most of us to qualify for
what is beginning to look more and more like a day out program for a
comunity based mental health program.
Hello Everyone!
I am not against expressing opinions....are you? I like a good
debate...without personal attacks ...how about you? I also understand what
is meant by the words "supply and demand"...no big deal...I see it happening
everyday in many things. Who cares where you choose to sleep as long as you
get to choose? HR race Directors asked for input on entry process....I hope
you expressed you choices there...wasn't it great that they asked!
....and....why am I on this list....to talk about the things that "I have
done" as it relates to the list...running. This is the place to toot your own
horn! This is the place where I can tell you about every aching step of my
run ....knowing that you too love to run and know exactly what I am talking
about ....then...its "your" turn...to tell me about every step "you"
took...... I dont see "this" as being self centered...just two (or two
hundred) running friends talking together about their strengths, weaknesses,
accomplishments, and goals. I try to keep my "bragging" to the list..... to
my running friends that want to "brag/share" their experiences with me
too. oh well.... and...for Matt.... ...Matt Mahoney is a very dear
friend of mine!!!!! I take him publicly now JUST AS HE IS......and he takes
me just as I am! I love the things that make him different from me!!!
Reflecting back on running with him ...A PERFECT GENTLEMAN....for
instance....almost coming to a complete stop for me many times at HR
...giving up a BETTER finish time to see that I did indeed follow the right
path....that I did not "fall down....and down" and die!(he was VERY capable
of running on!!) ....ANDDDDDDDDDDDDD........I have never seen Matt without a
smile!!!! ..so Cheers Matt!!!! I cant wait to see you again....and I cant
wait to hear some more stories of your adventures, accomplishments, failures
and goals....I cant wait to hear stories from all of you out
there!!!!!!!!!..... "...let's roll!" why...when I was at Leadville this
year....guess what happend...
.........................
leslie trammell
llt@...
.....
Greetings To All
My apologies. I was definitely out-of-line.
My email (toward Matt) was quite obviously and intentionally personal.
It was also obviously a personal attack. No excuses.
I can only say I'm sorry for involving everyone else.
I quite obviously have a problem with Matt's perpetual emails (about
himself)
That is my problem. No need to involve you all.
From now on, if Matt and I have personal issues to discuss
we can do so off line.
Incidentally, my originating email was not really intended for my own
good.
My training partner has repeatedly expressed concern about her continued
ability to get into the Hardrock
I thought I would stir the pot and wave the flag in her behalf.
That is what friends and training partners are for
Maybe the good outcome of all this is that it will run its course
and everyone will have their say in the next few days.
Then when the HR100 selection committee does their thing at the end of
Janurary
they wont need a raft of lawyers to defend their decisions.
So look at the bright side, there may be a benefit in all this.
Again my apologies for engaging in personal business over the group
chatroom
Jim Fisher
YOU...are quite awesome!!!!!!....i think i know you......yes...you are a
friend of mine!!!!!!!!
Take care!!!!!!!!!! leslie :o)
jfisher wrote:
> Greetings To All
>
> My apologies. I was definitely out-of-line.
> My email (toward Matt) was quite obviously and intentionally personal.
> It was also obviously a personal attack. No excuses.
> I can only say I'm sorry for involving everyone else.
>
> I quite obviously have a problem with Matt's perpetual emails (about
> himself)
> That is my problem. No need to involve you all.
> >From now on, if Matt and I have personal issues to discuss
> we can do so off line.
>
> Incidentally, my originating email was not really intended for my own
> good.
> My training partner has repeatedly expressed concern about her continued
> ability to get into the Hardrock
> I thought I would stir the pot and wave the flag in her behalf.
> That is what friends and training partners are for
>
> Maybe the good outcome of all this is that it will run its course
> and everyone will have their say in the next few days.
> Then when the HR100 selection committee does their thing at the end of
> Janurary
> they wont need a raft of lawyers to defend their decisions.
> So look at the bright side, there may be a benefit in all this.
>
> Again my apologies for engaging in personal business over the group
> chatroom
>
> Jim Fisher
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Hi Everyone
Dick Huff has asked what my thoughts on what has been said the past
couple of days so here goes! I know I am speaking for all of us involved
in the HRH when I say we are honored that this run means so much to
people. The people involved with putting this run on are truly a special
group of people; but those of who who subscribe to this list already
know that. I find it a bit unsettling that the dialogue that transpired
did take a personal note and kudos to both Jim and Matt for realizing
that this list isn't the best place for such a dialogue.
The selection of runners for the HRH has become much more complicated
than any of us (the organizers/run committe/Board of Directors) ever
imagined it would be. Once again, I am speaking for the run as a whole
when I say that we are all dedicated to keeping the Hardrock Hundred an
event for those who want to challenge themselves against our course and
themselves.
This years selection process favors those who have been part of our
"family". There is a bias in this years selection process toward those
who have attempted/completed our run. We have allocated slots for people
who want to experience the HRH for the first time but the number is less
than the number allocated for previous participants. Does this mean that
all of you who want to run in 2002 will be here in July? None of us can
answer that question until the first of February when we sit down and
look at the applications. If this selection process doesn't work then
we'll definitely revamp it for 2003 and you can count on us getting your
opinion.
Personally speaking, all of you are the biggest part of why I stay
involved in this run. I hope to see all of you who want to be here in
July.
Dale Garland
RD, HRH
Dick Huff wrote:
>
> Hello everyone!
>
> I am a relative newcomer to Hardrock, the first year as a pacer, the second
> year as a runner (DNF). I can understand why everyone is afraid of not being
> included each year. Hardrock is a truly special event. It does not take very
> long to get to know everyone and be involved in all aspects of the event.
> Everyone's stories of success and failure come in to play each year. I think
> you all look forward to being a part of each others lives during Hardrock.
>
> The inevitable is happening, Ultras are becoming more popular and more
> people want to participate. Unfortunately, there is not enough room at
> Hardrock each year for the growing masses. I have a suggestion for entry
> requirements: limit the number of times people are allowed to attempt
> Hardrock to Three. This may seem like harsh reality at the initial stage. We
> will all miss all of the five time finishers, whether Kirk Apt can continue
> his awesome streak. But, if you all hold Hardrock in such high regard, then
> you can come back year after year and mark the course, pace, volunteer, or
> work at the Aid Stations. You can still be a part of all of the fun,
> excitement, the people, the beautiful mountains without being a runner every
> year.
>
> I agree with Jim Fisher, Hardrock is magical and is about friends. Like I
> said, I am a newcomer to Hardrock, I liked being a part of and accepted by
> such a fascinating group of people from the first day. That is just human
> nature. Why not let as many people be a part Hardrock. I must admit, after
> the first year, I decided that I wanted to go back to Hardrock and run every
> year. I now know that would be a very selfish thing to do. I was grateful
> for the opportunity to run. I think everyone should be willing to let as
> many people experience Hardrock as possible, let some other runners achieve
> there goals. The names and faces will change over the years, the magic of
> Hardrock will always be there.
>
> It is a tribute to Dale Garland that everyone has such strong emotions about
> Hardrock. I have not heard Dale comment about the large number of applicants
> expected this year. Has this problem been created by the runners? Are we
> all getting excited for no reason? Dale-Are you concerned about this at all?
>
> Thanks everyone.
>
> Dick Huff
>
> - Original Message -----
> From: <laurantodd@...>
> To: <hr100@yahoogroups.com>; <hr100@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 3:37 PM
> Subject: RE: [hr100] Hardrock Hundred Clarification
>
> > Jim and Matt,
> > Thanks for generating conversation. I hate waiting for the snow reports to
> > start thinking about the Silverton One-Lap Fun Run. Here's my two cents:
> > I hope Hardrock never ...
> > 1. Becomes like Leadville in that everyone who enters is accepted. The
> high-
> > altitude trails can't handle that type of abuse, and the small size of
> > Hardrock -- where you are treated like family -- is one of its most
> appealing
> > aspects. If given the choice, I'd rather have the race limited to 100 and
> know
> > that I'm not allowed in than have it be 150 and be guaranteed an entry
> spot. If
> > Hardrock were ever to open itself to all-comers I wouldn't enter. Hardrock
> > would no longer be Hardrock. (Note: This is not a knock on Leadville,
> which has
> > a lot of jeep road, is at a lower altitude, is on more-developed trails
> and can
> > handle more people than Hardrock. I think Leadville is crowded, and the
> > character of the race has gotten worse as it has gotten bigger, but
> Leadville
> > is still a great race).
> > 2. Comes down to a points system. You runners and volunteers who started
> this
> > race and kept it going deserve the first crack at entry spots. This is
> your
> > race. You took the initial risks. You kept the race going. You kept it
> low-key
> > and challenging. You made it the coolest race there is. Rewarding the
> people
> > who started this race and help keep it going evey year I totally agree
> with.
> > But if a points system were instituted, I could see people marking the
> course,
> > volunteering, pacing, etc., to get the points and NOT to mark the course,
> > volunteer, pace, etc. That would be so wrong.
> > 3. Becomes like the Ironman in that dollars improve your lottery position.
> For
> > those not familiar, the Ironman has a separate lottery for its club
> members who
> > pay extra for that privilege. That's on top of its ungodly cost. I love
> the
> > challenge of the Ironman but the cost is one of the things that makes me
> an
> > ultra freak and not a tri-geek.
> > Todd Burgess
> >
> >
> > > --- "Maslanka, Bozena (SC)" <bmaslank@...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Matt,
> > > > Since you sound like you have a lot of money to
> > > > spend, can you pay my entry
> > > > fee?
> > >
> > > Sure, at Wickham Park :-)
> > >
> > > > Please don't forget that not everyone is use to
> > > > sleeping in one person tent
> > > > and take baths in cold rivers.
> > >
> > > I think it's good training. I don't know if anyone
> > > else has noticed but it seems to me that people that
> > > demand the most comfort outside the race are the first
> > > ones to drop out when the going gets tough.
> > >
> > > > Please be more sensitive making silly suggestions.
> > >
> > > I don't think it's silly. If you have 200 entrants
> > > and 100 slots, then half of them aren't going to like
> > > the selection process no matter how fair you try to
> > > make it. I think it's noble that Hardrock intends to
> > > keep the entry fee below what the market will bear,
> > > but then they just have to substitute some other
> > > arbitrary hurdle to limit entries. This could be a
> > > lottery (like Western States), a trail work
> > > requirement (like Wasatch), or tougher qualifying
> > > standards (like the world championships or Ironman).
> > > "None of the above" is not an option. You must choose
> > > names somehow, and there is no way to do it and still
> > > keep everyone happy.
> > >
> > > The point of my previous post was to ask what is so
> > > special about Hardrock that it fills up when there are
> > > plenty of cheap or free races? It is not like you
> > > have to have a lot of money to run ultras. But if you
> > > want prestige, I think you should have to pay for it.
> > >
> > >
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Obviously, the Hardrock Committee is a victim
of its own success, so maybe it's time to raise
the ante. How about no crews, no aid stations
and no course markings (except on your maps)?
In other words, no more pampering. That should
cut out some of the deadwood. Call it a natural
selection process. It should make the committee's
job a lot easier. Remember, this is billed as a
post-grad event. I'm sure Matt would be the first
to endorse this format.
dennis
Jimmy, I hope you know I wasn't pilling-on for your note to Matt,. I was
just asking for restraint and that respect be practiced. We are all friends
and may loose sight of the way that email can be, because of it's immediate
nature, rather a bit too blunt an instrument for some kinds of discussions.
Take care all
Steve
Hi Gang,
Blake's and Dale's replies to this current discussion exhibit the
kind of thoughtful measured response that is typical of the Hardrock
Committee. These guys have a tough job, but I am absolutely
confident that their goal is to make the entry process as fair as is
humanly possible, and they have invested many hours already on this
effort. I just want to say thanks.
Not only do they have to make tough decisions, they have to put up
with all our whines and suggestions. There should probably be a
medal for that. They know that not everyone will be happy, no matter
WHAT they decide, and they still volunteer to put themselves through
this year after year. Many kudos, you guys.... I can't say it
enough. :-)
Deb Pero (finally get to sign my new name!!!)
Hey Dale,
Just a couple of questions about this...
Is there a suggested size for the original, or for the overall design?
How do folks submit a print? Do you want the original mailed, or a
scanned image?
Is the artist responsible for adding the graphic text as well as the
painting itself? What must be included in the text, if so?
Thanks.
Deb
--- "Herr, Dennis B." <dennis_herr@...> wrote:
> Obviously, the Hardrock Committee is a victim
> of its own success, so maybe it's time to raise
> the ante. How about no crews, no aid stations
> and no course markings (except on your maps)?
> In other words, no more pampering. That should
> cut out some of the deadwood. Call it a natural
> selection process. It should make the committee's
> job a lot easier. Remember, this is billed as a
> post-grad event. I'm sure Matt would be the first
> to endorse this format.
Great idea. In fact we can be flexible about the
starting time and date. Just go run the course on
your own and tell us how long it took. We can even
drop the entry fee and qualifications. And for those
who are bored with the current course or don't think
it's tough enough, I can suggest a few changes around
Sneffels, Sunshine, and Redcloud.
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many people understand your feeling. i just try to consider the source. the
appology was thoughtful. kerry trammellAt 06:08 PM 11/13/2001 -0700, you
wrote:
>Greetings To All
>
>My apologies. I was definitely out-of-line.
>My email (toward Matt) was quite obviously and intentionally personal.
>It was also obviously a personal attack. No excuses.
>I can only say I'm sorry for involving everyone else.
>
>I quite obviously have a problem with Matt's perpetual emails (about
>himself)
>That is my problem. No need to involve you all.
>>From now on, if Matt and I have personal issues to discuss
>we can do so off line.
>
>
>Incidentally, my originating email was not really intended for my own
>good.
>My training partner has repeatedly expressed concern about her continued
>ability to get into the Hardrock
>I thought I would stir the pot and wave the flag in her behalf.
>That is what friends and training partners are for
>
>Maybe the good outcome of all this is that it will run its course
>and everyone will have their say in the next few days.
>Then when the HR100 selection committee does their thing at the end of
>Janurary
>they wont need a raft of lawyers to defend their decisions.
>So look at the bright side, there may be a benefit in all this.
>
>Again my apologies for engaging in personal business over the group
>chatroom
>
>Jim Fisher
>
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Matt,
I need to apologize for the comments I made to you. You will always be my
friend no matter what. Looking back at my poor performance every time at
Hardrock makes everyone question my ability. I keep coming back to Hardrock
because I love the race, the runners, race directors, volunteers.
I come early and spend time with my friends trail marking, listening to
everyone's interesting stories.
The last time Joel Zuker run at Hardrock I was with him for most of the
race. Since we were the last two runners he made sure that I didn't get
lost. I got stock in mud knee deep and was not able to get out of it,
without Joel and two of our pacers I might still be out there stuck in the
mud.
I'm sure the front runners don't have the kind of stories to tell like us. I
bet that the rocks are not moving for them, they don't see Dinosaurs, cars
on trail, Knights and other interesting objects.
My English is not so good but I'm trying to make a point that we are all
unique and all love Hardrock.
We should let the race committee decide what the requirements are for the
race entry, so far they have done outstanding job.
Sorry again the outburst, you are still my friend.
Bozena
--- "Maslanka, Bozena (SC)" <bmaslank@...>
wrote:
> Matt,
> I need to apologize for the comments I made to you.
> You will always be my
> friend no matter what.
Apology accepted. And I didn't mean to upset you with
my comments. I don't envy the people who have to
select who gets to run Hardrock. They are going to
make some people unhappy no matter what.
I think we first ran together in 1998 on the Bear
Creek trail at night, although you probably didn't
know it. You had a pacer and I could not keep up
descending to the Uncompahgre river. I eventually
DNFed with 51 hours.
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This is what Hardrock is all about: People that care about each other. What
a Great event. Thanks to Dale and all the Directiors. It is truly a unique
event and I believe the town of Silverton is a Huge contributing factor.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Mahoney" <matmahoney@...>
To: <hr100@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:34 PM
Subject: RE: [hr100] Apologies To All
>
> --- "Maslanka, Bozena (SC)" <bmaslank@...>
> wrote:
> > Matt,
> > I need to apologize for the comments I made to you.
> > You will always be my
> > friend no matter what.
>
> Apology accepted. And I didn't mean to upset you with
> my comments. I don't envy the people who have to
> select who gets to run Hardrock. They are going to
> make some people unhappy no matter what.
>
> I think we first ran together in 1998 on the Bear
> Creek trail at night, although you probably didn't
> know it. You had a pacer and I could not keep up
> descending to the Uncompahgre river. I eventually
> DNFed with 51 hours.
>
> =====
> -- Matt Mahoney, matmahoney@...
>
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Aw geez. You mean everybody kissed
and made up? That's no fun!
-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Huff [mailto:midnightframing@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:11 PM
To: hr100@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [hr100] Apologies To All
This is what Hardrock is all about: People that care about each other. What
a Great event. Thanks to Dale and all the Directiors. It is truly a unique
event and I believe the town of Silverton is a Huge contributing factor.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Mahoney" <matmahoney@...>
To: <hr100@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:34 PM
Subject: RE: [hr100] Apologies To All
>
> --- "Maslanka, Bozena (SC)" <bmaslank@...>
> wrote:
> > Matt,
> > I need to apologize for the comments I made to you.
> > You will always be my
> > friend no matter what.
>
> Apology accepted. And I didn't mean to upset you with
> my comments. I don't envy the people who have to
> select who gets to run Hardrock. They are going to
> make some people unhappy no matter what.
>
> I think we first ran together in 1998 on the Bear
> Creek trail at night, although you probably didn't
> know it. You had a pacer and I could not keep up
> descending to the Uncompahgre river. I eventually
> DNFed with 51 hours.
>
> =====
> -- Matt Mahoney, matmahoney@...
>
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Ok Animal
When are you gonna get a shave and a haircut and learn how to wear clothes ?
Ginny LaForme
Espanola,NM
rlaforme@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Herr, Dennis B." <dennis_herr@...>
To: <hr100@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 6:46 AM
Subject: RE: [hr100] Apologies To All
> Aw geez. You mean everybody kissed
> and made up? That's no fun!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dick Huff [mailto:midnightframing@...]
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:11 PM
> To: hr100@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [hr100] Apologies To All
>
>
> This is what Hardrock is all about: People that care about each other.
What
> a Great event. Thanks to Dale and all the Directiors. It is truly a
unique
> event and I believe the town of Silverton is a Huge contributing factor.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt Mahoney" <matmahoney@...>
> To: <hr100@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:34 PM
> Subject: RE: [hr100] Apologies To All
>
>
> >
> > --- "Maslanka, Bozena (SC)" <bmaslank@...>
> > wrote:
> > > Matt,
> > > I need to apologize for the comments I made to you.
> > > You will always be my
> > > friend no matter what.
> >
> > Apology accepted. And I didn't mean to upset you with
> > my comments. I don't envy the people who have to
> > select who gets to run Hardrock. They are going to
> > make some people unhappy no matter what.
> >
> > I think we first ran together in 1998 on the Bear
> > Creek trail at night, although you probably didn't
> > know it. You had a pacer and I could not keep up
> > descending to the Uncompahgre river. I eventually
> > DNFed with 51 hours.
> >
> > =====
> > -- Matt Mahoney, matmahoney@...
> >
> > __________________________________________________
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Let's rumble, Ginny!
-----Original Message-----
From: LaForme [mailto:RLAFORME@...]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:52 AM
To: hr100@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [hr100] Apologies To All
Ok Animal
When are you gonna get a shave and a haircut and learn how to wear clothes ?
Ginny LaForme
Espanola,NM
rlaforme@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Herr, Dennis B." <dennis_herr@...>
To: <hr100@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 6:46 AM
Subject: RE: [hr100] Apologies To All
> Aw geez. You mean everybody kissed
> and made up? That's no fun!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dick Huff [mailto:midnightframing@...]
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:11 PM
> To: hr100@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [hr100] Apologies To All
>
>
> This is what Hardrock is all about: People that care about each other.
What
> a Great event. Thanks to Dale and all the Directiors. It is truly a
unique
> event and I believe the town of Silverton is a Huge contributing factor.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt Mahoney" <matmahoney@...>
> To: <hr100@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:34 PM
> Subject: RE: [hr100] Apologies To All
>
>
> >
> > --- "Maslanka, Bozena (SC)" <bmaslank@...>
> > wrote:
> > > Matt,
> > > I need to apologize for the comments I made to you.
> > > You will always be my
> > > friend no matter what.
> >
> > Apology accepted. And I didn't mean to upset you with
> > my comments. I don't envy the people who have to
> > select who gets to run Hardrock. They are going to
> > make some people unhappy no matter what.
> >
> > I think we first ran together in 1998 on the Bear
> > Creek trail at night, although you probably didn't
> > know it. You had a pacer and I could not keep up
> > descending to the Uncompahgre river. I eventually
> > DNFed with 51 hours.
> >
> > =====
> > -- Matt Mahoney, matmahoney@...
> >
> > __________________________________________________
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Hey Matt, You didn't DNF! At HR you just finished the race a little over
cutoff. Bet you don't get lost on the last leg again. Carl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Mahoney" <matmahoney@...>
To: <hr100@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:34 AM
Subject: RE: [hr100] Apologies To All
>
> --- "Maslanka, Bozena (SC)" <bmaslank@...>
> wrote:
> > Matt,
> > I need to apologize for the comments I made to you.
> > You will always be my
> > friend no matter what.
>
> Apology accepted. And I didn't mean to upset you with
> my comments. I don't envy the people who have to
> select who gets to run Hardrock. They are going to
> make some people unhappy no matter what.
>
> I think we first ran together in 1998 on the Bear
> Creek trail at night, although you probably didn't
> know it. You had a pacer and I could not keep up
> descending to the Uncompahgre river. I eventually
> DNFed with 51 hours.
>
> =====
> -- Matt Mahoney, matmahoney@...
>
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Greetings from the snowy San Juans!!
We had a heck of a snowstorm here this week. the peaks and valleys are
now covered in white! I am looking for whoever had their words
immortalized on the National Geographic video when they said "If I
wanted to watch my feet, I would have stayed at home." Does anybody out
there know who said this?
Dale G.
That was Eric Clifton on the final climb to Engineer. He was pacing someone -
Scott Mills or Scott Gordon, I think.
- Blake
At 09:29 PM 11/28/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>Greetings from the snowy San Juans!!
> We had a heck of a snowstorm here this week. the peaks and valleys are
>now covered in white! I am looking for whoever had their words
>immortalized on the National Geographic video when they said "If I
>wanted to watch my feet, I would have stayed at home." Does anybody out
>there know who said this?
>Dale G.
Dale:
It was Eric Clifton, on Engineer, pacing me.
Creative whining is a game we play. He won.
-Scott Gordon
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Thanks Scott
I'm thinking of possibly using it for a saying on a shirt. Do you have
Eric's e-mail so I can ask him about using it. Will you handle the
trademark negotiations?
dale
chilpup@... wrote:
>
> Dale:
>
> It was Eric Clifton, on Engineer, pacing me.
>
> Creative whining is a game we play. He won.
>
> -Scott Gordon
>
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I apologize to one and all, but it has finally happened to
me. My computer was hit with a virus.
The Number One Rule to remember here is:
NEVER, EVER OPEN AN E-MAIL ATTACHMENT.
======= ==== ===== === ====== ============
Even if it comes from a friend, someone close to you,
someone you usually trust, or even someone you don't know
but whose "attachment" seem harmless because it is not an
executable (".exe") file.
I received this latest virus from someone I know and whom I
also trust would never deliberately send me a virus. In
fact, he didn't know he was doing it. The virus does this
all by itself. THAT's what's so scary. But there are dead
people now who once opened innocent mail coming through the
United States Postal Service because they never dreamed it
contained anthrax.
We live in the Age of Terrorism. We must all be ALWAYS on
guard.
If you don't want to read any more, you can stop now. I've
warned you not to open ANY attachment whatsoever. Period.
Not ever! That's it. And it is also why my recently begun
"Middle Income Richard's Almanack" e-zine is strictly
text-body only. Never an attachment. Not even HTML. I do
not wish to infect anyone's computer, not now, not ever. So
I never attach anything. What you see in your e-mail's
in-box is what you get, and it's ALL you get.
If your computer hasn't been infected and you don't know
what I'm talking about with my e-zine, you can either: a)
stop reading and delete this message, or b) send me a reply
saying you'd like to see my e-zine.
If you're still with me, here's how this new worm-virus
called "Badtrans" works:
It hides within a BLANK "txt" or "Notepad" attachment file.
If you don't have some kind of "firewall" safety system set
up on your computer, you will see an innocent-looking
*non-executable* file attachment coming from some otherwise
trustworthy source. So you might equally innocently click
on it.
WHAM-O! Too late.
It downloads immediately, invisibly, without even your
system asking whether you want to download it or not.
Then--damn it all anyway--every time you go online *it*
works in the background sending itself out like this to
everybody in your "address book." And I have a BIG address
book. (Sorry about that.)
However, if you ever do or ever did get this nasty little
worm-virus in just this fashion, follow this link which I
kindly received from a friend, Matt Mahoney, on how to
destroy it:
http://www.google.com/search?q=badtrans.b
In my case, I've worked a day and a half on tracking it down
in the wasteland of my Windows environment. I believe now
the little bastard, like bin Laden, is finished.
I'm also convinced, if HE could, he would have already
e-mailed me anthrax.
Many apologies,
Rich Limacher
TheTroubadour@...
^
No "_" underscore symbol there (note this)
----- Notes from other Original Messages -----
> ...it's the virus called Badtrans. It
> spreads when someone unknowingly
> opens an email attachment that comes from
> someone whose computer is infected. The
> virus then sends itself to everyone in their
> address book, using a variety of file names.
> For more info:
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.
badtrans.b@...
> I have received several emails over the last few days
> with the following characteristics:
>
> 1. Email from a name I recognize.
>
> 2. The return email [address] is being altered in
> these emails with an underscore as the first
> character. The most recent header is
> [something like this]:
> >
> >> From: "Rich Limacher" <_TheTroubadour@...>
> >> To: [victim's e-mail address]
> >> Subject: Re: Re: [some old topic]
> >> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 11:36:36 -0500
> >
> 3. There are two attachments to each of these
> messages. One is a text.txt file; the other has
> a random name and a .pif or a .scr extension.
>
> Rich's note had a file named:
> "ME_NUDE.MP3.SCR" attached. This is the
> virus-containing note. Note: the .scr filename
> appears to be named at random.
>
> I just thought that if I'm getting these, then so
might
> others on [his] list.
> Please be doubly aware that these attachments
> are not safe.
>
> FWIW, the subject line appears to be a topic that is
> rather old, at least in [current discussion terms]...
>
> A Friend
> (who isn't infected because I checked, even though
> Hotmail won't let me download ANYTHING that
> suggests Rich will appear on my screen without
> clothes on)
Melody and Tim
Please get in touch with me (off list) re Sportsmobile.
(My apologies for sending a non-HR msg, but I have no other way to contact these
folks.)
Max Welker
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