I am still hoping to get better and run the race. I don't think we should
jump the gun yet.
After all I did pay my fees and I'm not 100% sure if I'm very badly injured,
and if I do recover I would like to have the option of coming back to
Colorado and running it.
Please don't decide for me what is good or bad I will make that decision
myself.
By the way, it would be a lot nicer if you people wished me speedy recovery
first before jumping the gun.
Thanks for being concern (not).
Bozena
-----Original Message-----
From: carolyn erdman [mailto:cerdman@...]
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 8:05 AM
To: hr100@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [hr100] Training in the Sawatch range
At 11:36 PM 7/1/01 -0700, you wrote:
>--- clapper@... wrote:
Bozena
>Maslanka is going home because of a leg injury (kicked
>in a soccer game a few weeks ago), so she will not be
>running Hardrock.
>
So why doesn't she call Dale and tell him so a person on the wiat list may
get her spot!!!????
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At 11:36 PM 7/1/01 -0700, you wrote:
>--- clapper@... wrote:
Bozena
>Maslanka is going home because of a leg injury (kicked
>in a soccer game a few weeks ago), so she will not be
>running Hardrock.
>
So why doesn't she call Dale and tell him so a person on the wiat list may
get her spot!!!????
--- clapper@... wrote:
>
> Now you wait a minute. She promise to go white
> kayaking with me tomorrow
> morning and Mt biking in the afternoon.
> Joe
Oops, I meant Sue Johnston, not Thompson. Anyway Sue
didn't climb with us on Princeton because she was
sick, coughing up green stuff or something. Bozena
Maslanka is going home because of a leg injury (kicked
in a soccer game a few weeks ago), so she will not be
running Hardrock.
On Friday Ginny LaForme and I climbed Princeton from
Maxwell Gulch, starting on the CO trail at 344 (2 mi.
S of Avalanche Gulch) to Grouse Canyon. We started at
7:45 AM, reached the abandoned jeep road up Maxwell
Gulch at 9:30 AM, the summit at 12:45 AM, Alpine at
3:15 PM, and finished at 3:45 PM. The jeep road
climbs steeply along the north side of the drainage
until it reaches the open meadow at 10,800 ft. We
climbed a steep slope of scree and loose rock from
13,200 ft. to a saddle 80 ft. below the summit on the
west ridge. This was a very dangerous climb, as the
rocks (up to 2 ft. wide) were all loose due to the
steepness. I think I would prefer to hike the extra 2
miles to the east ridge trail.
We descended directly over the top of point 13971,
following Roach's Grouse Canyon route. The descent
off the ridge to treeline is rocky, steep, and
dangerous with loose rocks. I nearly hit Ginny with a
2 ft. long rock after I started a slide. Most of the
time we took parallel routes down so as to avoid this
problem. We had good weather for the climb, but
descended in a thunderstorm and hail.
We found a good class 1 trail that is not on any map
that I know of. The trail is obvious. It leaves the
drainage going west at 10,800 ft, approximately
following the contour lines except that it descends at
about a 10% grade for 2 miles to 9800 ft. at the west
end of Alpine, on road 273C (dirt), 3 blocks north of
the main road (273). From there you can go 1/4 mile
west to the bridge at Baldwin Gulch for the climb up
Antero. We didn't know about the trail so we hiked
1.5 miles east back to the car (we used a 2 car
shuttle). This is a vastly better route than
descending directly to Grouse Canyon as described by
Roach, as we had planned to do.
My quads were real stiff the next day as I drove 500
miles to the Sawyer Mt. run, which I ran today (27 mi.
in 8:11, 8000-10000 ft, 4500 ft climb on trails).
Strangely enough, my legs aren't sore any more except
for about 20 scratches where the trail was overgrown
with alder (thorny like sawbriers).
> "Mike Dobies" <traildog@...> on 06/28/2001
> 08:58:44 PM
>
> Please respond to hr100@yahoogroups.com
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>
>
> Matt Mahoney <matmahoney@...> wrote:
> To: <hr100@yahoogroups.com>;
> <nolans14@yahoogroups.com>
>
> > Tomorrow morning (Fri) Sue Thompson, Ginny LaForme
> and
> > I will be traversing Mt. Princeton N to S. If you
> > want to join us, meet at Grouse Canyon at 700 AM
> or
> > Avalanche Gulch at 730 AM. Then I will camp at
> > Winfield and we will climb another 14er tomorrow,
> > maybe La Plata or Huron. If you can't make it
> then,
> > look for me at Winfield on 7/3-6. I have a rented
> > white Daewoo and a small blue tent.
>
> Hey, wait a minute!
>
> Sue Thompson had already promised to help me drive
> from
> Michigan to Colorado, starting tomorrow afternoon!
>
> See ya in Silverton, Matt.
>
> Mike Dobies
> traildog@...
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Matt Mahoney <matmahoney@...> wrote: To: <hr100@yahoogroups.com>; <nolans14@yahoogroups.com>
> Tomorrow morning (Fri) Sue Thompson, Ginny LaForme and > I will be traversing Mt. Princeton N to S. If you > want to join us, meet at Grouse Canyon at 700 AM or > Avalanche Gulch at 730 AM. Then I will camp at > Winfield and we will climb another 14er tomorrow, > maybe La Plata or Huron. If you can't make it then, > look for me at Winfield on 7/3-6. I have a rented > white Daewoo and a small blue tent.
Hey, wait a minute!
Sue Thompson had already promised to help me drive from Michigan to Colorado, starting tomorrow afternoon!
See ya in Silverton, Matt.
Mike Dobies traildog@...
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Now you wait a minute. She promise to go white kayaking with me tomorrow
morning and Mt biking in the afternoon.
Joe
"Mike Dobies" <traildog@...> on 06/28/2001 08:58:44 PM
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Matt Mahoney <matmahoney@...> wrote:
To: <hr100@yahoogroups.com>; <nolans14@yahoogroups.com>
> Tomorrow morning (Fri) Sue Thompson, Ginny LaForme and
> I will be traversing Mt. Princeton N to S. If you
> want to join us, meet at Grouse Canyon at 700 AM or
> Avalanche Gulch at 730 AM. Then I will camp at
> Winfield and we will climb another 14er tomorrow,
> maybe La Plata or Huron. If you can't make it then,
> look for me at Winfield on 7/3-6. I have a rented
> white Daewoo and a small blue tent.
Hey, wait a minute!
Sue Thompson had already promised to help me drive from
Michigan to Colorado, starting tomorrow afternoon!
See ya in Silverton, Matt.
Mike Dobies
traildog@...
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Matt Mahoney <matmahoney@...> wrote:
To: <hr100@yahoogroups.com>; <nolans14@yahoogroups.com>
> Tomorrow morning (Fri) Sue Thompson, Ginny LaForme and
> I will be traversing Mt. Princeton N to S. If you
> want to join us, meet at Grouse Canyon at 700 AM or
> Avalanche Gulch at 730 AM. Then I will camp at
> Winfield and we will climb another 14er tomorrow,
> maybe La Plata or Huron. If you can't make it then,
> look for me at Winfield on 7/3-6. I have a rented
> white Daewoo and a small blue tent.
Hey, wait a minute!
Sue Thompson had already promised to help me drive from
Michigan to Colorado, starting tomorrow afternoon!
Tomorrow morning (Fri) Sue Thompson, Ginny LaForme and
I will be traversing Mt. Princeton N to S. If you
want to join us, meet at Grouse Canyon at 700 AM or
Avalanche Gulch at 730 AM. Then I will camp at
Winfield and we will climb another 14er tomorrow,
maybe La Plata or Huron. If you can't make it then,
look for me at Winfield on 7/3-6. I have a rented
white Daewoo and a small blue tent.
Today we climbed Yale. No altitude problems this
time, after 2 days.
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