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Re: [howard-citizen] FW: Saturday Rallies for Responsible Development in Doughoregan

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Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:07 AM
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·      Doughoregan Manor is arguably one of the most important intact 
historic sites in the United States.  National historians at a 
conference on Doughoregan a few years ago described it as beyond 
compare… as an intact plantation with existing historic resources far 
beyond what Williamsburg has in terms of building resources…  as an 
essential component of colonial history, of catholic history, of 
agricultural history….  Etc. etc. etc.


There are many more pieces to this puzzle that deserve thoughtful 
review and discourse.   I’d like to encourage it to happen on this 
list so that we can all learn.
i disagree with mary catherine's use of the word "arguably." 
 
i consider the historic significance of doughoregan manor beyond dispute and that significance should guide discussion of how best to deal with the FUTURE of doughoregan.  in light of its historic value, the "private property" aspect of doughoregan is a sham issue.  the question is whether the american public is going to sit by, in ignorance, while an irreplacable american historic site is destroyed piecemeal.
 
howard county local politics is much too small a forum for planning the destruction (or preservation) of doughoregan manor.
 
allen dyer
 


Tue Mar 9, 2010 2:06 pm

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FYI. I am forwarding the following information at the request of the communities surrounding the proposed development of Doughoregan Manor. They have been...
Marc Norman
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Mar 9, 2010
7:24 am

Mr. Norman, Readers should note that the owners of Doughoregan are seeking to assemble a package of preservation and development that would allow them to get...
Mary Catherine Cochran
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Mar 9, 2010
2:07 pm

Dear Mary Catherine, Thank you for laying out all the pieces of the development puzzle on the table for all to see. Clearly, there are a variety of parties at...
Michael W. Davis
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Mar 9, 2010
2:57 pm

The DPZ presentation on the Doughoregan development is available on the web. I recommend anyone who did not see it live or on TV on March 1, to view it on the...
Ray Cole
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Mar 9, 2010
3:08 pm

Mary Catherine, Thank you for your overview of the issues. I haven't heard anyone say "no" to development. Rather, it seems that reasonable people are...
Marc Norman
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Mar 9, 2010
2:36 pm

You didn't answer my question. ;-) mc ... You didn't answer my question. ;-) mc On Mar 9, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Marc Norman wrote: Mary Catherine, Thank you for...
Mary Catherine Cochran
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Mar 9, 2010
2:39 pm

Mary Catherine, According to Joe Rutter. The balance of the property after removing the 94 acres in the core and the 75 acres currently preserved could at the...
jczj@... Send Email Mar 9, 2010
2:47 pm

There is no guarantee that the 94 acre core can or will be preserved. So if you include that as a potential, we are talking about 176 to ? homes depending on...
Mary Catherine Cochran
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Mar 9, 2010
3:33 pm

Mary Catherine, Somehow they get to 400 if they were to develop every acre of the entire property and every perk they tested worked, that is the big question...
jczj@... Send Email Mar 9, 2010
5:07 pm

Who is "JL"? (AKA jcz@...) Mike Berla *********************************** From: jczj@... Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 12:06 PM To:...
Mike Berla
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Mar 9, 2010
5:14 pm

Thanks for the reminder, Mike. howard-citizen listserv netiquette rules require that posts be signed. Russ Swatek howard-citizen listserv moderator ... From:...
Russ Swatek
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Mar 9, 2010
5:37 pm

Sorry folks. JL aka John Lederer ... From: Russ Swatek <swatek1@...> To: howard-citizen@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, Mar 9, 2010 12:30 pm Subject:...
jczj@... Send Email Mar 9, 2010
8:59 pm

So realistically... we can say that the number is somewhere around 250, maybe a little higher? Which is 75 less units than what is proposed, but spread out...
Mary Catherine Cochran
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Mar 9, 2010
5:27 pm

Mary Catherine, I think that is a fair statement. I personally do not think it should be spread out,I just believe the number they are proposing is above what...
jczj@... Send Email Mar 9, 2010
5:37 pm

So... setting aside the potential benefit of preservation of a national treasure and focusing on just development impacts and issues... help me understand why...
Mary Catherine Cochran
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Mar 10, 2010
4:16 am

Mary Catherine, The community is concerned about a number of issues. Traffic being directed solely to Frederick road near the intersection of Rt 40 next to...
jczj@... Send Email Mar 10, 2010
2:00 pm

... From: Mary Catherine Cochran To: howard-citizen@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [howard-citizen] FW: Saturday Rallies...
Allen Dyer
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Mar 9, 2010
2:53 pm

Allen, It's refreshing to hear a big picture person.  I too wish there was a clear cut way for us to lift our horizons beyond our own immediate interests. ...
Russ Swatek
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Mar 9, 2010
3:23 pm

Allen: If your assessment is correct, that "[H]oward county local politics is much too small a forum for planning the destruction (or preservation) of...
Mike Berla
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Mar 9, 2010
4:35 pm

PMJI. I am no expert on historical sites, and defer to MCC and Allen. But if it is so important, then I think the most effective use of activist time and...
Phil Marcus
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Mar 9, 2010
5:18 pm

Mr. Marcus, The family is not interested in selling their home. Foundations, non- profits- both environmental and historic will not step in to give money to...
Mary Catherine Cochran
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Mar 9, 2010
5:26 pm

I fully agree with Allen that Howard County presents too small a forum for planning the future of Doughoregan Manor. Unfortunately we don't have a National...
Ed Walter
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Mar 11, 2010
10:02 pm

Mary Catherine, You asked a question that requires expertise in rural zoning and Ag Pres. I'm not trying to be coy. It seems that you and Courtney have...
Marc Norman
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Mar 9, 2010
2:55 pm

Marc, I don't have an opinion. I'm trying to form one. I see no guarantees for preservation in any option. At least not yet. I am not being disingenuous, I...
Mary Catherine Cochran
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Mar 9, 2010
3:38 pm

I guess my question is ... won't we have these impacts with 250 homes or 325 homes? Also- Traffic: I don't think access could be via Manor Road. I would object...
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Mar 10, 2010
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