After upgrading to 2.7f have been unable to crash it anymore ;-) but
today it became apparent that something is odd with the Phone/CID
section. The same macro that worked before the upgrade does strange
things now. The Phone macro changes the video input from TV to Video 1
for :10 seconds (to display CallerID info) and then presses IR Video3,
Video+, Video+, Video+ to return to TV video. With 2.7f the same macro
now changes the Cable box channel to 99.

Unzipping 2.7c, launching and redownloading the original schedule and
it works as before.
Gone back to the 16bit version for now...

Check out: http://www.onelist.com/files/homevision-users/Pre-OneListArchives/

Jeff


>>> "Ed Maurus" <emaurus@...> 11/19 5:20 PM >>>
From: "Ed Maurus" <emaurus@...>

Can someone post where these digests are?

Thanks - Ed

----- Original Message -----
From: Jeffery Thompson <Thompsje@...>
To: <Homevision-users@onelist.com>
Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 10:51 AM
Subject: [HOMEVIS] 1997 Archives


> From: "Jeffery Thompson" <Thompsje@...>
>
> Ingo,
> Thanks for taking the time to administer this list. Being a relatively new
user (10 mo.), I find the list very helpful. I have used the archive files
quit a bit. I see you now have the 1998 and 1999 archives from the old list
in the files area.  Are we going to have access to the 1997 digests?  I was
going to retrieve them from the old list, but I ran out of time.
> Jeff
>
> > Community email addresses:
>   Post message: homevision-users@onelist.com
>   Subscribe:    homevision-users-subscribe@onelist.com
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>
> Shortcut URL to this page:
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Here are the anomalies I've noticed so far:

1) (Menu) Configure->Thermostats

       Run-time error '31037':
       Error loading from file

2) (Menu) File->Open Schedule
    (Menu) Objects/Events->Phone Events

       Minimize/Maximize/Terminate buttons not displayed on title bar.

3) (Menu) Advanced->AC/Heating TV Screen
       OR
    (Menu) Advanced->Security TV Screen
       OR
    (Menu) Advanced->Custom TV Menu Page

       Run-time error '31037':
       Error loading from file

--
Mun

It's the first I've heard of any problems...

I'm also sending this to the list.  If anyone on the list is having
problems, please mail me directly and/or report your problem to
help@onelist.com

postmaster@... wrote:

> Is the new homevision list functioning OK, a couple of users are
> getting bounces saying "relaying denied" or their posts never make it
> and they claim they subscribed and confirmed.
> Thanks,
> Charles
>
> >Receiver of original message: homevision-users@onelist.com
>
> >Subject of original message: Re: RE: [HOMEVIS] HomeVision 32-bit Beta
> >Software - Corrected Web Page
>
> >Delivery of your mail failed.
> >Mail server response to RCPT TO command:
> >550 <homevision-users@onelist.com>... Relaying denied.

Could someone confirm this apparent bug:
Opened a PE and changed the length of a Wait Timer, after the dialog
closes the actions after it expires no longer appear. Clicking OK and
reopening the same PE immediately and there they are <scratching head>.
System WinNT 4s (sp5), 64m, PPro200.
Jonathan

Again, I do not see that here Dan, I am using the same resolution as you
except that mine is running on Win2000.

One strange thing did happen just now though. Out of nowhere I saw constant
activity in the X10 transmission. In looking at the terminal server the J
mode of X10 was sending constant commands. I do not have anything programmed
into J, nor do I have a transmitter set to J. In fact I unchecked ALL of the
J enable boxes and re loaded the controller. Still went crazy.

Shut down HV 32, reloaded HV 16 and an older schedule (by about 3 hours) and
things are still again.

George

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Hoehnen" <dhoehnen@...>
To: <homevision-users@onelist.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 7:55 PM
Subject: [HOMEVIS] 2.7f font problem


> From: "Dan Hoehnen" <dhoehnen@...>
>
> Go to Advanced/Security TV Screen and then go to the "Select macros" tab.
> The text for the label control for item 4 is wrapped and I can't see the
> last word .  I can see "Change perimeter" and then I think the last word
is
> supposed to be "Mode" (I can only see the top few pixels of each letter).
>
> I am running Win95 OSR2, 1024 x 768, 256 color, large fonts.
>
> I just checked and this is also a problem in 2.7c 16-bit, I just never
> noticed.  Making the label control a little wider should fix it.
>
> Dan
>
> >   Post message: homevision-users@onelist.com
>   Unsubscribe:  homevision-users-unsubscribe@onelist.com
>   Homepage:     http://www.onelist.com/community/homevision-users

Go to Advanced/Security TV Screen and then go to the "Select macros" tab.
The text for the label control for item 4 is wrapped and I can't see the
last word .  I can see "Change perimeter" and then I think the last word is
supposed to be "Mode" (I can only see the top few pixels of each letter).

I am running Win95 OSR2, 1024 x 768, 256 color, large fonts.

I just checked and this is also a problem in 2.7c 16-bit, I just never
noticed.  Making the label control a little wider should fix it.

Dan

Mine open OK here too.

Dan

> From: "George M" <gmotich@...>
>
> Not here. Mine open fine with 2.7f.
>
> George
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Tollini" <john@...>
> To: "Home Vision Users" <homevision-users@onelist.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 9:40 AM
> Subject: [HOMEVIS] 2.7f bug
>
>
> > From: John Tollini <john@...>
> >
> > Craig,
> > On 2.7f, attempting to open custom TV menu or system pages.
> >
> > Advanced, Custom TV Page OR Advanced, Custom TV System.
> > "Runtime error 31037 - error loading from file"
> >
> > Same action, same file from 2.7c no problem.
> >
> > John
> >
> > >   Post message: homevision-users@onelist.com
> >   Unsubscribe:  homevision-users-unsubscribe@onelist.com
> >   Homepage:     http://www.onelist.com/community/homevision-users
>
> >   Post message: homevision-users@onelist.com
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The Port B inputs have 2700 Ohm "pullup" resistors connected to 5V.  The
input chips also draw a good deal of current to ground.  This drops the
voltage to around 3V (which is read as "high") when the input is not
connected.  If you connect a switch (or other contact closure) from the
input to ground, it pulls the voltage to 0V, which is read as "low".

When you apply 12V, the voltage goes even higher than 3V, and is read as
"high".  If your 12V signal went to ground when not activated, then it would
be read as "low".  However, if it instead just opens when not activated,
HomeVision can't distinguish between the two conditions, as they're both
"high".  Ideally, we should have allowed you to remove the pullup resistor,
but we didn't.

So how can you make this work?  What you have to do is add a resistor from
the input to ground.  The idea is to drop the voltage (when the input is
open) to less than 1V so it's read as a low.  Resistors between 560 and 680
Ohms are ideal, but values as high as 1K will normally also work.

Thanks,

Craig Chadwick
President
Custom Solutions, Inc. (a.k.a., HomeVision)
mailto:csi@...
http://www.csi3.com
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------
HOMEVISION: Home automation controller with two-way X-10,
two-way infrared, 24 I/O ports, over 50 video screens
on your TV, and much more!  Add-on phone interface, serial
ports, analog inputs, digital temperature sensors, and more.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------

> -----Original Message-----
> From: carter@... [mailto:carter@...]
> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 2:54 PM
> To: homevision-users@onelist.com
> Subject: [HOMEVIS] EE explanation for input ports
>
>
> From: carter@...
>
> I need some pretty basic help/education from one of you electrical
> engineers out there.  I've been using input ports successfully to
> measure a
> contact closure, and I understand perfectly how the 5v source with the
> pull-up resistor works.  Despite that confidence, let me try to explain it
> in a sentence if for no other reason than to give background for my
> question/confusion below.  When the circuit is open, no current
> is actually
> flowing, so there is no voltage drop across the pull-up resistor, so the
> input port measures 5v.  Once the circuit is closed, all 5v must be lost
> over the pull-up resister (and to whatever resistance there may
> in the line
> itself, which I'll assume is negligible), so the input port measures a low
> signal since it measures the voltage after the pull-up resistor.
>
> I now have need to have HV detect a 12v signal (from one of those new
> wireless driveway monitors from Design Tech) rather than simple contact
> closure.  The manual give an example of a 5v external source, stating that
> it can simply be hooked to the input (and use a common ground).  Would
> someone please help me understand how that works?  When the 5v is
> not being
> output from the external device, it would seem that the input would still
> see 5v for the same reason described above.  An exception might
> be that the
> current is allowed to flow into the external device, but I'll assume that
> doesn't happen.  Now, when the external 5v signal is activated,
> doesn't the
> input port still measure 5v?  How do I ever produce a low signal for the
> input port?  I have this feeling I'm missing something very obvious, so
> fire away with your response.  Thanks.
>
> >   Post message: homevision-users@onelist.com
>   Unsubscribe:  homevision-users-unsubscribe@onelist.com
>   Homepage:     http://www.onelist.com/community/homevision-users
>

The answer is that the driveway monitor is putting out 12 volts when active
and  a ground when not.  In this case you would not use a pull up resistor
at the HV if you could indeed hook 12v to its input.  You would let the
driveway monitor do that for you internally.

However, since you said the HV uses a pull up to 5volts, I would not hook
12v directly up to its ports. ( I don't know the specs so I am saying this
for safety reasons).  Your best bet would be to hook up the output of the
driveway monitor to a relay and then use the contact closure in conjunction
with a pull up resistor on the HV.

You have to make sure the driveway monitor can supply enough current to
safety operate a relay.  If you need sensitive relay operating at less then
2mA try www.elkpro.com.

-Tim
tim.shephard@...
tims.phone@...
http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard/tim/ha
eFax (508) 590-0302

-----Original Message-----
From: carter@... <carter@...>
To: homevision-users@onelist.com <homevision-users@onelist.com>
Date: Sunday, November 21, 1999 11:54 AM
Subject: [HOMEVIS] EE explanation for input ports


>From: carter@...
>
>I need some pretty basic help/education from one of you electrical
>engineers out there.  I've been using input ports successfully to measure a
>contact closure, and I understand perfectly how the 5v source with the
>pull-up resistor works.  Despite that confidence, let me try to explain it
>in a sentence if for no other reason than to give background for my
>question/confusion below.  When the circuit is open, no current is actually
>flowing, so there is no voltage drop across the pull-up resistor, so the
>input port measures 5v.  Once the circuit is closed, all 5v must be lost
>over the pull-up resister (and to whatever resistance there may in the line
>itself, which I'll assume is negligible), so the input port measures a low
>signal since it measures the voltage after the pull-up resistor.
>
>I now have need to have HV detect a 12v signal (from one of those new
>wireless driveway monitors from Design Tech) rather than simple contact
>closure.  The manual give an example of a 5v external source, stating that
>it can simply be hooked to the input (and use a common ground).  Would
>someone please help me understand how that works?  When the 5v is not being
>output from the external device, it would seem that the input would still
>see 5v for the same reason described above.  An exception might be that the
>current is allowed to flow into the external device, but I'll assume that
>doesn't happen.  Now, when the external 5v signal is activated, doesn't the
>input port still measure 5v?  How do I ever produce a low signal for the
>input port?  I have this feeling I'm missing something very obvious, so
>fire away with your response.  Thanks.
>
>>  Post message: homevision-users@onelist.com
>  Unsubscribe:  homevision-users-unsubscribe@onelist.com
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>

Why not use that 12v to power a relay and use the contact closure from the
relay for the input to HV.

That way you dont have to change any programming either.

Gary

> -----Original Message-----
> From: carter@... [mailto:carter@...]
> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 2:54 PM
> To: homevision-users@onelist.com
> Subject: [HOMEVIS] EE explanation for input ports
>
>
> From: carter@...
>
> I need some pretty basic help/education from one of you electrical
> engineers out there.  I've been using input ports successfully to
> measure a
> contact closure, and I understand perfectly how the 5v source with the
> pull-up resistor works.  Despite that confidence, let me try to explain it
> in a sentence if for no other reason than to give background for my
> question/confusion below.  When the circuit is open, no current
> is actually
> flowing, so there is no voltage drop across the pull-up resistor, so the
> input port measures 5v.  Once the circuit is closed, all 5v must be lost
> over the pull-up resister (and to whatever resistance there may
> in the line
> itself, which I'll assume is negligible), so the input port measures a low
> signal since it measures the voltage after the pull-up resistor.
>
> I now have need to have HV detect a 12v signal (from one of those new
> wireless driveway monitors from Design Tech) rather than simple contact
> closure.  The manual give an example of a 5v external source, stating that
> it can simply be hooked to the input (and use a common ground).  Would
> someone please help me understand how that works?  When the 5v is
> not being
> output from the external device, it would seem that the input would still
> see 5v for the same reason described above.  An exception might
> be that the
> current is allowed to flow into the external device, but I'll assume that
> doesn't happen.  Now, when the external 5v signal is activated,
> doesn't the
> input port still measure 5v?  How do I ever produce a low signal for the
> input port?  I have this feeling I'm missing something very obvious, so
> fire away with your response.  Thanks.
>
> >   Post message: homevision-users@onelist.com
>   Unsubscribe:  homevision-users-unsubscribe@onelist.com
>   Homepage:     http://www.onelist.com/community/homevision-users
>

I need some pretty basic help/education from one of you electrical
engineers out there.  I've been using input ports successfully to measure a
contact closure, and I understand perfectly how the 5v source with the
pull-up resistor works.  Despite that confidence, let me try to explain it
in a sentence if for no other reason than to give background for my
question/confusion below.  When the circuit is open, no current is actually
flowing, so there is no voltage drop across the pull-up resistor, so the
input port measures 5v.  Once the circuit is closed, all 5v must be lost
over the pull-up resister (and to whatever resistance there may in the line
itself, which I'll assume is negligible), so the input port measures a low
signal since it measures the voltage after the pull-up resistor.

I now have need to have HV detect a 12v signal (from one of those new
wireless driveway monitors from Design Tech) rather than simple contact
closure.  The manual give an example of a 5v external source, stating that
it can simply be hooked to the input (and use a common ground).  Would
someone please help me understand how that works?  When the 5v is not being
output from the external device, it would seem that the input would still
see 5v for the same reason described above.  An exception might be that the
current is allowed to flow into the external device, but I'll assume that
doesn't happen.  Now, when the external 5v signal is activated, doesn't the
input port still measure 5v?  How do I ever produce a low signal for the
input port?  I have this feeling I'm missing something very obvious, so
fire away with your response.  Thanks.

Not here. Mine open fine with 2.7f.

George


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Tollini" <john@...>
To: "Home Vision Users" <homevision-users@onelist.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 9:40 AM
Subject: [HOMEVIS] 2.7f bug


> From: John Tollini <john@...>
>
> Craig,
> On 2.7f, attempting to open custom TV menu or system pages.
>
> Advanced, Custom TV Page OR Advanced, Custom TV System.
> "Runtime error 31037 - error loading from file"
>
> Same action, same file from 2.7c no problem.
>
> John
>
> >   Post message: homevision-users@onelist.com
>   Unsubscribe:  homevision-users-unsubscribe@onelist.com
>   Homepage:     http://www.onelist.com/community/homevision-users

Craig,
On 2.7f, attempting to open custom TV menu or system pages.

Advanced, Custom TV Page OR Advanced, Custom TV System.
"Runtime error 31037 - error loading from file"

Same action, same file from 2.7c no problem.

John

Thanks for this tip off on this Dan, I thought I had "upgraded" to 2.7f, but
it was really 2.7e.
No more dde problems with ACE-S32 and 2.7f.

Gary.

>
> Craig, I noticed that on your web page, both the full installation and the
> upgrade are labeled as being 2.7f.  But, only the full
> installation is 2.7f.
> The upgrade is 2.7e.  So, anyone using the upgrade file to
> upgrade will not
> get 2.7f.
>
> Everyone, make sure you check Help/About on the HV software and make sure
> you have version 2.7f if you are also running ACE.
>
> Dan

I have verified that 2.7f works with the 32-bit ACE Server.  Thanks Craig.

Craig, if you want to change your internal name back to HomeVision, I can
change ACE to use that instead.  The only reason I can see to do this would
be to allow both the 16 and 32 bit versions of HV to run at the same time,
which is probably not necessary.

Craig, I noticed that on your web page, both the full installation and the
upgrade are labeled as being 2.7f.  But, only the full installation is 2.7f.
The upgrade is 2.7e.  So, anyone using the upgrade file to upgrade will not
get 2.7f.

Everyone, make sure you check Help/About on the HV software and make sure
you have version 2.7f if you are also running ACE.

Dan

> From: "Craig Chadwick" <csi@...>
>
> George,
>
> Make sure you have the latest 32-bit Beta version (2.7f) from our
> web page,
> as the earlier versions wouldn't do DDE properly.  The problem was related
> to how we changed the application name from "HomeVis" in the
> 16-bit version
> to "HomeVision" in the 32-bit version.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Craig Chadwick
> President
> Custom Solutions, Inc. (a.k.a., HomeVision)
> mailto:csi@...
> http://www.csi3.com
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------
> --------------
> HOMEVISION: Home automation controller with two-way X-10,
> two-way infrared, 24 I/O ports, over 50 video screens
> on your TV, and much more!  Add-on phone interface, serial
> ports, analog inputs, digital temperature sensors, and more.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------
> --------------
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: George M [mailto:gmotich@...]
> > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 1999 10:35 AM
> > To: homevision-users@...
> > Subject: Re: [HOMEVIS] HomeVision 32-bit Beta Software - Corrected Web
> > Page
> >
> >
> > From: "George M" <gmotich@...>
> >
> > Craig,
> >
> > I am getting NO DDE conversation with HV and ACE while running under
> > Win2000. Don't know if it matters but I am running off the 2.74
> beta prom.
> > Also on a side note and I don't know yet if it has anything to
> do with the
> > 2.74, but I learned a new remote into HV last week. However, even
> > though it
> > learned with no problems, so far it has not been able to transmit
> > the codes
> > back.
> >
> > George
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Craig Chadwick" <csi@...>
> > To: "HomeVision E-Mail List" <homevision-users@...>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 10:16 AM
> > Subject: [HOMEVIS] HomeVision 32-bit Beta Software - Corrected Web Page
> >
> >
> > > Sorry, but I left a "/" out of the web address for the
> HomeVision 32-bit
> > > beta software.  The correct address is:
http://www.csi3.com/beta_32.htm.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Craig Chadwick
> > President
> > Custom Solutions, Inc. (a.k.a., HomeVision)
> > mailto:csi@...
> > http://www.csi3.com
> >
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > --------------
> > HOMEVISION: Home automation controller with two-way X-10,
> > two-way infrared, 24 I/O ports, over 50 video screens
> > on your TV, and much more!  Add-on phone interface, serial
> > ports, analog inputs, digital temperature sensors, and more.
> >
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > --------------
> >
> > -
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> subscribe.
>
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>

   Post message: homevision-users@onelist.com
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George,

Make sure you have the latest 32-bit Beta version (2.7f) from our web page,
as the earlier versions wouldn't do DDE properly.  The problem was related
to how we changed the application name from "HomeVis" in the 16-bit version
to "HomeVision" in the 32-bit version.

Thanks,

Craig Chadwick
President
Custom Solutions, Inc. (a.k.a., HomeVision)
mailto:csi@...
http://www.csi3.com
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------
HOMEVISION: Home automation controller with two-way X-10,
two-way infrared, 24 I/O ports, over 50 video screens
on your TV, and much more!  Add-on phone interface, serial
ports, analog inputs, digital temperature sensors, and more.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------

> -----Original Message-----
> From: George M [mailto:gmotich@...]
> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 1999 10:35 AM
> To: homevision-users@...
> Subject: Re: [HOMEVIS] HomeVision 32-bit Beta Software - Corrected Web
> Page
>
>
> From: "George M" <gmotich@...>
>
> Craig,
>
> I am getting NO DDE conversation with HV and ACE while running under
> Win2000. Don't know if it matters but I am running off the 2.74 beta prom.
> Also on a side note and I don't know yet if it has anything to do with the
> 2.74, but I learned a new remote into HV last week. However, even
> though it
> learned with no problems, so far it has not been able to transmit
> the codes
> back.
>
> George
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Craig Chadwick" <csi@...>
> To: "HomeVision E-Mail List" <homevision-users@...>
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 10:16 AM
> Subject: [HOMEVIS] HomeVision 32-bit Beta Software - Corrected Web Page
>
>
> > Sorry, but I left a "/" out of the web address for the HomeVision 32-bit
> > beta software.  The correct address is: http://www.csi3.com/beta_32.htm.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Craig Chadwick
> > President
> > Custom Solutions, Inc. (a.k.a., HomeVision)
> > mailto:csi@...
> > http://www.csi3.com
> >
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > --------------
> > HOMEVISION: Home automation controller with two-way X-10,
> > two-way infrared, 24 I/O ports, over 50 video screens
> > on your TV, and much more!  Add-on phone interface, serial
> > ports, analog inputs, digital temperature sensors, and more.
> >
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > --------------
> >
> > -
> > This list is being moved to OneList.com
> > Please visit http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/homevision-users to
> subscribe.
>
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>

Craig,

I am getting NO DDE conversation with HV and ACE while running under
Win2000. Don't know if it matters but I am running off the 2.74 beta prom.
Also on a side note and I don't know yet if it has anything to do with the
2.74, but I learned a new remote into HV last week. However, even though it
learned with no problems, so far it has not been able to transmit the codes
back.

George





----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Chadwick" <csi@...>
To: "HomeVision E-Mail List" <homevision-users@...>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 10:16 AM
Subject: [HOMEVIS] HomeVision 32-bit Beta Software - Corrected Web Page


> Sorry, but I left a "/" out of the web address for the HomeVision 32-bit
> beta software.  The correct address is: http://www.csi3.com/beta_32.htm.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Craig Chadwick
> President
> Custom Solutions, Inc. (a.k.a., HomeVision)
> mailto:csi@...
> http://www.csi3.com
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> --------------
> HOMEVISION: Home automation controller with two-way X-10,
> two-way infrared, 24 I/O ports, over 50 video screens
> on your TV, and much more!  Add-on phone interface, serial
> ports, analog inputs, digital temperature sensors, and more.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> --------------
>
> -
> This list is being moved to OneList.com
> Please visit http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/homevision-users to
subscribe.

Mike,

Yes, you can do what you want.  It's perfectly fine for the actions for H1
ON (i.e., when H1 ON is received) to send an H1 On command (you won't get
into an endless loop!)

Thanks,

Craig Chadwick
President
Custom Solutions, Inc. (a.k.a., HomeVision)
mailto:csi@...
http://www.csi3.com
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HOMEVISION: Home automation controller with two-way X-10,
two-way infrared, 24 I/O ports, over 50 video screens
on your TV, and much more!  Add-on phone interface, serial
ports, analog inputs, digital temperature sensors, and more.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mike@... [mailto:mike@...]
> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 1999 7:26 AM
> To: homevision-users@onelist.com
> Subject: [HOMEVIS] RE: beta 32 bit
>
>
> From: mike@...
>
> thanks
> The implimentation of the right click in the Control read flags though
> is MUCH better (turning the whole line black) :)
>
> On the point of HV only TXing X10 commands from a macro
> and never acting upon them
> Can I confirm then that if I'm using say Touchlinc
> to fire a macro (say Study On) on say "H1 on",
> I may also include in that macro the command "H1 force on"
> so that if HV runs Study on macro  the touchlinc mimics that it is On ??
>
> Nearly confused myself with that question :)
> but do you see what I'm getting at?
> I have 3 Touchlincs round the house
> purely firing Macros to the HV
> and it would be usefull to always having them show the right condition
> even if HV has executed the macro
> thanks in advance
> Mike
>
> >   Post message: homevision-users@onelist.com
>   Unsubscribe:  homevision-users-unsubscribe@onelist.com
>   Homepage:     http://www.onelist.com/community/homevision-users
>

thanks
The implimentation of the right click in the Control read flags though
is MUCH better (turning the whole line black) :)

On the point of HV only TXing X10 commands from a macro
and never acting upon them
Can I confirm then that if I'm using say Touchlinc
to fire a macro (say Study On) on say "H1 on",
I may also include in that macro the command "H1 force on"
so that if HV runs Study on macro  the touchlinc mimics that it is On ??

Nearly confused myself with that question :)
but do you see what I'm getting at?
I have 3 Touchlincs round the house
purely firing Macros to the HV
and it would be usefull to always having them show the right condition
even if HV has executed the macro
thanks in advance
Mike

Mike,

The right mouse click doesn't work in the Actions Entry Screen.  We will fix
this.

As for faster downloads, I'm not sure.  In our testing here on other tasks
(like opening the View Schedule screen), the 32-bit version actually is
SLOWER than the 16-bit version!

Thanks,

Craig Chadwick
President
Custom Solutions, Inc. (a.k.a., HomeVision)
mailto:csi@...
http://www.csi3.com
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HOMEVISION: Home automation controller with two-way X-10,
two-way infrared, 24 I/O ports, over 50 video screens
on your TV, and much more!  Add-on phone interface, serial
ports, analog inputs, digital temperature sensors, and more.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mike@... [mailto:mike@...]
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 4:58 PM
> To: homevision-users@onelist.com
> Subject: [HOMEVIS] beta 32 bit
>
>
> From: mike@...
>
> Is it me or does the right mouse click not work ??
> And is the load into HV faster?
> Mike
>
> >   Post message: homevision-users@onelist.com
>   Unsubscribe:  homevision-users-unsubscribe@onelist.com
>   Homepage:     http://www.onelist.com/community/homevision-users
>

See my comments inserted below.

Thanks,

Craig Chadwick
President
Custom Solutions, Inc. (a.k.a., HomeVision)
mailto:csi@...
http://www.csi3.com
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HOMEVISION: Home automation controller with two-way X-10,
two-way infrared, 24 I/O ports, over 50 video screens
on your TV, and much more!  Add-on phone interface, serial
ports, analog inputs, digital temperature sensors, and more.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mun Johl [mailto:mj@...]
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 11:45 AM
> To: HomeVision Users
> Cc: Mun Johl
> Subject: [HOMEVIS] A couple of newby questions
>
>
> From: Mun Johl <mj@...>
>
> Hi all,
>
> 1) I noticed that with the HV Phone/CID device, if I try to send HV a
>    command with begins with more than one '#' character, it seems to be
>    ignored.  Is this the designed behavior, or am I not doing something
>    correctly?
>
>    For example:
>
>       If
>         Received phone touch-tone sequence is '#1234'
>       Then
>         <This works as expected.>
>
>    But,
>
>       If
>         Received phone touch-tone sequence is '##123'
>       Then
>         <This branch is never executed.>
>

This is the way we designed it.  The "initiator" key (# in this case) resets
HV to start looking for another command.  We did this so that if you make a
mistake when pressing keys, you could simply press # to start over.

>
> 2) I'm trying to set up the HV to detect certain X10 commands, and use
>    that as a trigger to send other X10 commands.  For example, the "A16
>    On" trigger  is used to send "House Code A, All Lights On".
>
>    However, HV never seems to detect any of the X10 command
>    transmissions.  Not even if HV itself transmits the "trigger"
>    commands.  Is there some configuration variable or something that
>    needs to be set so that HV will "listen" for X10 commands and perform
>    other operations?
>

HV only performs actions when it RECEIVES the X-10 signal, NOT when it
transmits it.  Although HV does receive it's own transmission, this is just
for error checking, and won't trigger more actions.

> Thanks in advance.
>
> --
> Mun
>
> >   Post message: homevision-users@onelist.com
>   Unsubscribe:  homevision-users-unsubscribe@onelist.com
>   Homepage:     http://www.onelist.com/community/homevision-users
>

Can someone post where these digests are?

Thanks - Ed

----- Original Message -----
From: Jeffery Thompson <Thompsje@...>
To: <Homevision-users@onelist.com>
Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 10:51 AM
Subject: [HOMEVIS] 1997 Archives


> From: "Jeffery Thompson" <Thompsje@...>
>
> Ingo,
> Thanks for taking the time to administer this list. Being a relatively new
user (10 mo.), I find the list very helpful. I have used the archive files
quit a bit. I see you now have the 1998 and 1999 archives from the old list
in the files area.  Are we going to have access to the 1997 digests?  I was
going to retrieve them from the old list, but I ran out of time.
> Jeff
>
> > Community email addresses:
>   Post message: homevision-users@onelist.com
>   Subscribe:    homevision-users-subscribe@onelist.com
>   Unsubscribe:  homevision-users-unsubscribe@onelist.com
>   List owner:   homevision-users-owner@onelist.com
>
> Shortcut URL to this page:
>   http://www.onelist.com/community/homevision-users
>

Is it me or does the right mouse click not work ??
And is the load into HV faster?
Mike

Hi all,

1) I noticed that with the HV Phone/CID device, if I try to send HV a
    command with begins with more than one '#' character, it seems to be
    ignored.  Is this the designed behavior, or am I not doing something
    correctly?

    For example:

       If
         Received phone touch-tone sequence is '#1234'
       Then
         <This works as expected.>

    But,

       If
         Received phone touch-tone sequence is '##123'
       Then
         <This branch is never executed.>


2) I'm trying to set up the HV to detect certain X10 commands, and use
    that as a trigger to send other X10 commands.  For example, the "A16
    On" trigger  is used to send "House Code A, All Lights On".

    However, HV never seems to detect any of the X10 command
    transmissions.  Not even if HV itself transmits the "trigger"
    commands.  Is there some configuration variable or something that
    needs to be set so that HV will "listen" for X10 commands and perform
    other operations?

Thanks in advance.

--
Mun

I ran out of space on OneList's file area already, I have to trim out all the
extra headers and resubmit the digest zips.

In the meantime, the 1997 archive is available at my personal homepage on
GeoCities: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/2948/homevis_digests97.zip

Jeffery Thompson wrote:

> From: "Jeffery Thompson" <Thompsje@...>
>
> Ingo,
> Thanks for taking the time to administer this list. Being a relatively new
user (10 mo.), I find the list very helpful. I have used the archive files quit
a bit. I see you now have the 1998 and 1999 archives from the old list in the
files area.  Are we going to have access to the 1997 digests?  I was going to
retrieve them from the old list, but I ran out of time.
> Jeff
>
> > Community email addresses:
>   Post message: homevision-users@onelist.com
>   Subscribe:    homevision-users-subscribe@onelist.com
>   Unsubscribe:  homevision-users-unsubscribe@onelist.com
>   List owner:   homevision-users-owner@onelist.com
>
> Shortcut URL to this page:
>   http://www.onelist.com/community/homevision-users

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Ingo,
Thanks for taking the time to administer this list. Being a relatively new user
(10 mo.), I find the list very helpful. I have used the archive files quit a
bit. I see you now have the 1998 and 1999 archives from the old list in the
files area.  Are we going to have access to the 1997 digests?  I was going to
retrieve them from the old list, but I ran out of time.
Jeff

Please drop by http://www.onelist.com/surveys/homevision-users when you
get a chance to fill in a quick survey.  It'd be nice to know how many
users vs. lurkers are here.  :-)

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This is a test of the very temporary mail forwarder in warren.mentorg.com

Ingo Dean wrote:

> This should be the last message you get from warren.mentorg.com.
>
> I'm turning off the list here.
>
> --ingo
>
> Ingo Dean wrote:
>
> > Tomorrow morning (Friday, the 19th) I will disable the list here at my
> > workplace.  If you haven't subscribed to the new list host yet, please
> > visit http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/homevision-users tonight.
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After you download and install Misterhouse (v1.87) from
http://www.misterhouse.net
successfully, overlay these files to add Homevision support:
http://www.onelist.com/files/homevision-users/MH/update.zip

Check out code/idean/test_homevision.pl to see how to use some of the stuff. 
The
other files in the code/idean directory are also there for you to peruse,
however,
they might not even "compile".


Doug Smith wrote:

> >It's funny you asked....
> >
> >I'm just about finished porting a module so that MisterHouse will support the
> >Homevision controller....
> >
> >MisterHouse (http://www.misterhouse.net/) is probably just what you're
looking
> >for.  It's "an open source, multi-platform, home automation program" that
runs
> >on LINUX or Win32.  Check it out.  Oh, it's got a cool web interface, does
> >speech and speech recognition, and it's all in PERL!!!  (I love PERL, can you
> >tell?)
> >
> >I've almost finished the initial stab at the Homevision module - it can do
> >X10, IR, and digital I/O already.  Right now I'm the only Homevision user of
> >MisterHouse, but I'd sure like some beta testers for my code.
>
> That's great. I was also thinking about creating a HV module for
> MisterHouse but I knew I wouldn't have time for a while. I'd be happy
> to help test.
>
> --
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> <http://www.execpc.com/~dsmith>
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