I've updated Virtual NEC Trek on my website.  It now has full screen
and paste and a few other features that had recently been added to
Virtual Aquarius and My First Alice 32 Emulator.

www.geocities.com/emucompboy
Home of the Virtual Aquarius

Hi all.
   I'm selling my Computer Collection at very reasonable prices.In my
collection are 1 tomytutor with cassete drive and cartridges, vic 20
computers 5 units also with or with out cassete drives, programs,
books, Timex sinclair 1000, Adam ,trs80 ect, magazines, hardware ect. I
live in Canada, Windsor Ontario. I will not ship, you must make
arangements for pick up. Example of pricing Vic20 $25 firm. If
interested in any or any questions please E-mail me.

Hi all,
OK, I'm cross-posting but this was a good morning for me as I received
an eBay package in the mail today and it is exciting at least for me.

During a recent move I lost track of my TRS-80 Micro Color 10 (aka the
MC-10 or PoCo or CoCo Jr. or Mini-CoCo) collection of 2 MC-10s and 3 16K
ram-packs. This model was my 2nd computer back in 1983 or so and my
first computer with color & sound. So while researching on eBay to find
out going prices for some items I'm thinking of selling I came across an
auction that had a title of "Radio Shack TRS 80 used for parts" for a
starting bid of $2.99 (item #8768762043). I took a look and it was an
MC-10 w/PS, cassette cable and video cable.

The seller honestly stated that he had tried it and only got snow on the
screen. Now knowing that most people think an RCA connector means
composite video (having bought a working 64K CoCo 2 at a junk store for
a buck because of that same mistake) I figured he probably connected it
to the composite-in of a TV and since it was RF-out it did not work
correctly. I also figured that hardcore TRS-80 people would take one
look and say "Oh, it's one of those!" since it only said "TRS 80" and
not "MC-10" in the title. So I bookmarked it.

Right before the auction was to end with no bids I went back and grabbed
it for the beginning bid of $2.99. With shipping of $6.15 it ended up
costing me $9.14; IMHO not a bad deal for the computer and all it needs
to be a working system. And as I correctly surmised there was no problem
with it. I hooked it up correctly and it works fine; I cleaned it up and
have been running a simple CLS program for an hour and it is still
cranking away. Emulators are great but nothing beats the real thing
especially when I start to remember where all the MC-10 CONTROL shortcut
keys are located; it's bliss. Now to get a 16K ram-pack for it so it's
actually useful!

The moral of the story is, don't throw away possibilities that may bear
fruit especially when you have some experience or another one's
ignorance can contribute to your gain. Have a super weekend collector
friends!
WarpDavey
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All I really want is a president who is smarter than I am...

"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit
atrocities." - Voltaire

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I've released version 0.40 of My First Alice32 Emulator.
Find it on my website
www.geocities.com/emucompboy
Home of the Virtual Aquarius


With that out of the way, updating the Panasonic JR-200U emulator
returns to the top of my list.

I was thinking about writing an Ultima IV simulator... nah, there're
already several out there.

At 10:01 PM -0800 1/21/06, Neil Morrison wrote:
> Search for (Floppy ROM) for more info.
>
> http://incolor.inebraska.com/bill_r/interface%20age.htm

But that doesn't answer my question about whether the PiO
"sonsheeto" media for NEC was the same thing as the "Floppy
ROM"...  Anyone know for sure?

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Russ Perry Jr" <slapdash@...>
>
>
>> Sorry to ressurect such an old post, but...
>>
>> At 7:35 PM -0800 11/21/05, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
>>> At 12:59 AM +0000 11/22/05, emucompboy wrote:
>>>> Russ Perry Jr wrote:
>>>>> there are some games -- only by PiO -- that the media is listed as
>>>>> "sonsheeto" (that's the phonetic equivalent of the katakana)...
>>>>> What the heck is that?  Were they "mini-vinyl".
>>
>>>> Another was, you got it, records.  My mother subscribed to Keyboard
>>>> magazine 'way back in the early 80s, and she had a keyboard that'd
>>>> read cassettes, just like a computer.  Every now and then, the
>>>> magazine would include a record.  You were supposed to play it on
>>>> your turntable, and hook up your amplifier's aux out to your
>>>> keyboard's cassette in.  What fun.  Some home computer magazines in
>>>> Japan did the same thing, I think.
>>
>>> This is probably what Russ is referring to ... ?
>>
>> That is indeed what I was asking -- was the PiO "sonsheeto" format
>> vinyl/records?  I'm thinking of the word "sonsheeto" being a
>> phonetization of "sonic (sound) sheet", i.e. audio floppy vinyl,
>> but I'm not sure, hence I was asking if anyone knew for sure.
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Search for (Floppy ROM) for more info.

http://incolor.inebraska.com/bill_r/interface%20age.htm

IIRC, I have one from a Mad Magazine with 'music' on it. I have a couple
with software also.

Neil

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From: "Russ Perry Jr" <slapdash@...>


> Sorry to ressurect such an old post, but...
>
> At 7:35 PM -0800 11/21/05, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
>> At 12:59 AM +0000 11/22/05, emucompboy wrote:
>>> Russ Perry Jr wrote:
>>>> there are some games -- only by PiO -- that the media is listed as
>>>> "sonsheeto" (that's the phonetic equivalent of the katakana)...
>>>> What the heck is that?  Were they "mini-vinyl".
>
>>> Another was, you got it, records.  My mother subscribed to Keyboard
>>> magazine 'way back in the early 80s, and she had a keyboard that'd
>>> read cassettes, just like a computer.  Every now and then, the
>>> magazine would include a record.  You were supposed to play it on
>>> your turntable, and hook up your amplifier's aux out to your
>>> keyboard's cassette in.  What fun.  Some home computer magazines in
>>> Japan did the same thing, I think.
>
>> This is probably what Russ is referring to ... ?
>
> That is indeed what I was asking -- was the PiO "sonsheeto" format
> vinyl/records?  I'm thinking of the word "sonsheeto" being a
> phonetization of "sonic (sound) sheet", i.e. audio floppy vinyl,
> but I'm not sure, hence I was asking if anyone knew for sure.

Sorry to ressurect such an old post, but...

At 7:35 PM -0800 11/21/05, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
> At 12:59 AM +0000 11/22/05, emucompboy wrote:
>> Russ Perry Jr wrote:
>>> there are some games -- only by PiO -- that the media is listed as
>>> "sonsheeto" (that's the phonetic equivalent of the katakana)...
>>> What the heck is that?  Were they "mini-vinyl".

>> Another was, you got it, records.  My mother subscribed to Keyboard
>> magazine 'way back in the early 80s, and she had a keyboard that'd
>> read cassettes, just like a computer.  Every now and then, the
>> magazine would include a record.  You were supposed to play it on
>> your turntable, and hook up your amplifier's aux out to your
>> keyboard's cassette in.  What fun.  Some home computer magazines in
>> Japan did the same thing, I think.

> This is probably what Russ is referring to ... ?

That is indeed what I was asking -- was the PiO "sonsheeto" format
vinyl/records?  I'm thinking of the word "sonsheeto" being a
phonetization of "sonic (sound) sheet", i.e. audio floppy vinyl,
but I'm not sure, hence I was asking if anyone knew for sure.
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emucompboy wrote:
> Alll righty, Davey hasn't visited in a while, but I know how wake him
> up if he's lurking:
>
> Commodore 64 is great!  TI 99/4a isn't!  So there!
>

Hi to all in both groups,
OK, my life is a jumble. In August I was effectively laid-off from my
contract tech job for almost 4 months and ran out of savings by the end
of November. In that period of time my mother and step-father quite
suddenly sold my father's 11-room home out from under me so I had to
move. As of November 21st I live in a 5 room apartment in LA (no, not
THAT LA! This is Lower Akron, Ohio, a scary but cheap place to live). My
vintage computer collection was put in storage with 50% of what I own
and I am just weeks away from losing it all due to non-payment of my
storage rent. Even though work is picking up I'm still at least $750
behind on my bills. I have to have some things for my job, like my HP
laptop and my internet access, so they are priorities or they would be
gone. As you can see things have not been well and I've been busy just
trying to survive.

I did download the latest emucompboy emulators and ran them on my only
Windows XP computer, my HP laptop. I enjoy them and they run pretty
smoothly even in WinXP. The only thing is that, as with every vintage
emulation system I've tried, they run the fan constantly on my laptop.
But is was a lot of fun showing them to my best friend (who is 18 years
younger than me) and explaining that these systems are what I grew up
with. He was fascinated and amazed at how far computers have progressed
in 25 years.

Now about the TI-99-vs-C64 thingy: please keep in mind that the TI-99/4
was developed to compete with the VIC-20, not the Commie 64, and it
kicked the VIC-20's butt! The un-released TI-99/8
<http://www.99er.net/998.html> was made to compete with the C64 and
Apple. I've seen the prototypes of the TI-99/8 and it would have booted
the C64 out of play (if TI hadn't quit). But to this day I'll admit that
the C64 did have the best sound of any vintage computer. ;)

I hope I can participate in the groups more now. I really enjoyed all
the Aquarius info & work. Keep it up guys!

WarpDavey
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"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit
atrocities." - Voltaire

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I was just looking for an old school laptop on ebay and I found this Old Toshiba
Model.

What do you guys think is the exact year of manufacturing? Any opinions on
quality of this model?



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> > means, I figure it's still tape related.  However, there are some
> > games -- only by PiO -- that the media is listed as "sonsheeto"
> > (that's the phonetic equivalent of the katakana)...  What the
> > heck is that?  Were they "mini-vinyl".
>
> Another was, you got it, records.  My mother subscribed to Keyboard
> magazine 'way back in the early 80s, and she had a keyboard that'd
> read cassettes, just like a computer.  Every now and then, the
> magazine would include a record.  You were supposed to play it on
> your turntable, and hook up your amplifier's aux out to your
> keyboard's cassette in.  What fun.  Some home computer magazines in
> Japan did the same thing, I think.

This is probably what Russ is referring to ... ?

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> One was a sort of bar code scanner.  The barcode would be printed in
> a magazine and you'd run the little pen-like attachment over it to
> enter the program.

The Model 100 TRS-80 supported that. Also there was the Cauzin Softstrip

The records wre known as Floppy ROMs

Neil

> means, I figure it's still tape related.  However, there are some
> games -- only by PiO -- that the media is listed as "sonsheeto"
> (that's the phonetic equivalent of the katakana)...  What the
> heck is that?  Were they "mini-vinyl".

Weird.
Nec TREK had tapes and 5.25" disks and ROM cartridges.  There was
also a cartridge (the RAM/ROM cartridge) with an empty ZIF socket
where you could stick your own PROM.

But... back in the day, there were other means of getting data into
home computers.

One was a sort of bar code scanner.  The barcode would be printed in
a magazine and you'd run the little pen-like attachment over it to
enter the program.

Another was, you got it, records.  My mother subscribed to Keyboard
magazine 'way back in the early 80s, and she had a keyboard that'd
read cassettes, just like a computer.  Every now and then, the
magazine would include a record.  You were supposed to play it on
your turntable, and hook up your amplifier's aux out to your
keyboard's cassette in.  What fun.  Some home computer magazines in
Japan did the same thing, I think.

"haohmaruus" <ccollet@e...> wrote:
> A good resource for what's out on the PC-6001/Trek (at least in
> Japan) is http://p6-kei.hp.infoseek.co.jp/softindex.html. It not
> only has screenshots of many games, but it also lets you know if
> it was released on cartridge, tape, or disk.

Now that I've looked, I have another question...  Cartridge games
are listed as "ROM", that's easy enough; and though I don't have
my kanji dictionary handy to figure out what "tape/[some kanji]"
means, I figure it's still tape related.  However, there are some
games -- only by PiO -- that the media is listed as "sonsheeto"
(that's the phonetic equivalent of the katakana)...  What the
heck is that?  Were they "mini-vinyl".

At 12:25 PM +0000 10/17/05, haohmaruus wrote:
> Russ Perry Jr. wrote:
>> Is Tut a cartridge game, or a cassette game?  NEC Trek carts come
>> up so infrequently, I don't have a handle on what is out there...

> It's a cartridge. At least I'm pretty sure it's Tutankham, it doesn't
> look too much like the 2600 or Intellivision versions I've played.
> The game title is in katakana (�c�^�"�J�[�*), though, and it seems
> phonetically to spell Tutankham. Plus it's by Konami, and when I do
> a web search for �c�^�"�J�[�* I get web pages for Tutankham.

That all sounds reasonable...  I have to admit, I never really knew
what was out there for this computer.

> A good resource for what's out on the PC-6001/Trek (at least in
> Japan) is http://p6-kei.hp.infoseek.co.jp/softindex.html.

Cool, thanks for the link.  I hope to find the time to check it
out "soon".  But does anyone know of a similar list for US titles?
I have to admit, I haven't looked on Google or anything...

> if you go to the Konami section [...] you'll see that they released
> Amidar, Frogger, Scramble, Turpin, Super Cobra and Tutankham all on
> cartridge. I'd love to find a copy of Turpin, it looks slightly
> better than the Odyssey 2 version.

Heh...  I'd love to find ALL of those, and I haven't even seen the
pictures yet.  :-)
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> I'd love to have images of those.  D'ya know, I started being an
> emucompboy in 1999 in hopes of writing a Tomy Tutor emulator... and
> here it is more than six years later and I STILL HAVEN'T written one!
>

Later today I'm going to try opening up one of my duplicate carts and
see how feasible it'd be to desolder the ROM. I'm also a little
worried that the ROM might not be something common I can read since
it's probably 16 bit.

> I'm afraid of heat-damaging the chips while melting the solder!  My
> Uncle Millard says that he used to use a handheld hair dryer, set on
> high.

I've never heard of anybody using a hair dryer, but I have heard of
people using a heat gun (used for peeling paint) to do the same thing,
so it's probably feasible. But that'd probably subject the chip to
more heat than a desoldering iron would, especially if you were quick
with it. I've never burned up a chip, at least.

Back to the PC-6001, I've noticed that the NEC Trek has a real
keyboard whereas my PC-6001 has a chicklet one. Does the Trek
correspond directly to some later Japanese model?

> Interesting! Hmm, the PC-6001 does have a cassette deck port, I
> wonder if I could load the cartridge into RAM and then use
> the "SAVE" command to send it out the tape port, assuming it works.
> I've never been good with Z80 assembly and I haven't programmed
> anything BASIC since the 80's, but I bet it'd be fairly simple.

I'm still thinking there's a BASIC command to do a binary save of an
area of memory, but I don't remember what it is.  You'd jam the
cartridge in while the computer was on, and then type in a quick and
dirty program to:

1.  bank switch in the cartridge
2.  save it
--
When I was doing tones, I used a POKE to turn off the screen DMA, but
I don't think that'd be necessary for saving to cassette.


> I'm thinking of doing the
> same with my Tomy Pyuuta cartridges, too. Most of mine have ripped
> or missing labels already so it'd be no great loss if I had to
> damage them slightly to open the things up.

I'd love to have images of those.  D'ya know, I started being an
emucompboy in 1999 in hopes of writing a Tomy Tutor emulator... and
here it is more than six years later and I STILL HAVEN'T written one!

> Desoldering chips with a cheapo desoldering iron from Radio Shack
> isn't too difficult, the real difficulty is removing the chips once
> you've sucked all the solder out.

I'm afraid of heat-damaging the chips while melting the solder!  My
Uncle Millard says that he used to use a handheld hair dryer, set on
high.  He'd just hold the board in front, and when the solder looked
shiny, he'd nab the chip with a chip puller.  (This might be a tall
tale -- but then again, Uncle M. did unsolder all the ROMs in his
Commodore 64, and put in sockets for PROMs.)

> EGAD!  I'm too fumble-fingered to try that.  Instead, I jam the
> cartridge into the computer while the computer is on (actually I
used
> the expansion thingie, but I disconnected the reset-on-cartridge-
> insert) and run a BASIC program which reads the bytes and makes
> noise.  Hmmm, I guess that wouldn't do you any good.  I had the
NEC
> TREK's audio output connected to my PC's audio aux in jack, and
> recorded it at 8-bit Mono 44,100Hz using the Creative Labs
Creative
> Wavestudio which came with an old sound card years ago.

Interesting! Hmm, the PC-6001 does have a cassette deck port, I
wonder if I could load the cartridge into RAM and then use
the "SAVE" command to send it out the tape port, assuming it works.
I've never been good with Z80 assembly and I haven't programmed
anything BASIC since the 80's, but I bet it'd be fairly simple.

But actually, I opened the cartridge last night just fine so I might
go ahead and just desolder the ROM (It's a common 2764 or something
like that). There's only one screw in the back and the thing pops
open, no damage to the case or anything. I'm thinking of doing the
same with my Tomy Pyuuta cartridges, too. Most of mine have ripped
or missing labels already so it'd be no great loss if I had to
damage them slightly to open the things up.

Desoldering chips with a cheapo desoldering iron from Radio Shack
isn't too difficult, the real difficulty is removing the chips once
you've sucked all the solder out. When you pry the things out, if
there's just a tiny bit of solder left, one of the legs can get
stuck and rip off! Or sometime the chip just snaps in half, although
that usually happens to narrow chips, not wide ones like most ROMs.
But if you're extremely careful and slowly shimmy the chip out with
a flat head screw driver or something.

Another possibility would be to just create an adaptor to hook the
whole cartridge up to the parallel port on a PC. The 8 data lines on
the parallel port plus control signals for chip select and read
logic should be up to doing the job. I bet Digikey or Jameco sells
edge connectors you could plug the cartridges into.

> If I can open the cartridge without damaging the label, I'll
attempt
> to desolder the ROM and upload it. At the very least I'll upload an
> image of the cartridge label. It's got a pretty funny drawing on it.

EGAD!  I'm too fumble-fingered to try that.  Instead, I jam the
cartridge into the computer while the computer is on (actually I used
the expansion thingie, but I disconnected the reset-on-cartridge-
insert) and run a BASIC program which reads the bytes and makes
noise.  Hmmm, I guess that wouldn't do you any good.  I had the NEC
TREK's audio output connected to my PC's audio aux in jack, and
recorded it at 8-bit Mono 44,100Hz using the Creative Labs Creative
Wavestudio which came with an old sound card years ago.

Then on the PC I ran a program which analyzed the noise and converted
it into bytes.

Hm, I s'pose doing a binary save of the cartridge area of memory
would work just as good.

But I've never-no-never unsoldered ROMs.  If I could do that, I'd do
that to all the Tomy Tutor stuff, for sure!

> Ah, but do you have the last of the MSX-II line?  *chuckles*  I
think
> they hung every abbreviation in the book onto the end of it so it
ended
> up being something like MSX II+ Turbo R.

I haven't bothered with the Turbo R, I'm happy with just having an
example of each series, not every model in the series. There seems
to only be a handful of games for the Turbo R anyways. I've got a
fairly mundane Panasonic FS-A1 MSX2 computer with floppy drive, and
it gets the job done for me. It would be pretty awesome to have a
Turbo R someday, though.


>
> The last of the PC-6000 line was the NEC PC-6001mkIIsr -- I have
one of
> these, but unfortunately its monitor was broken in transit.

That's why I never have monitors shipped, especially from over
seas . Just about every home computer under the sun works with the
NEC Multisync II, so I just use that. It can do 15-31khz horizontal
sync so it'll work with stuff like the FM Towns that outputs a 24khz
signal, and it automatically adjusts the vertical hold so European
computers like the Spectrum run fine with it too. The only thing it
can't do that I wish it could is use a composite video signal for
sync. It can handle horizontal, vertical, composite sync, and sync
on green, though. And although it can do analog and digital RGB, it
doesn't like non-TTL digital RGB signals. The only computer that's
given me that problem is an Amstrad CPC464, though.


> I think so, but haven't confirmed.  I'm always interested in
obtaining
> new tape and cartridge images...
>

If I can open the cartridge without damaging the label, I'll attempt
to desolder the ROM and upload it. At the very least I'll upload an
image of the cartridge label. It's got a pretty funny drawing on it.

> My goal is to get an example of every major Japanese 8 bit computer
> line. So far I have a Sharp X1, NEC PC-8801, NEC PC-6001, the
> Fujitsu FM-7, and of course an MSX computer.

Ah, but do you have the last of the MSX-II line?  *chuckles*  I think
they hung every abbreviation in the book onto the end of it so it ended
up being something like MSX II+ Turbo R.

The last of the PC-6000 line was the NEC PC-6001mkIIsr -- I have one of
these, but unfortunately its monitor was broken in transit.


>
> I wonder, will the NEC Trek play PC-6001 cartridges/tapes and vice
> versa?
>
I think so, but haven't confirmed.  I'm always interested in obtaining
new tape and cartridge images...

> Check that extra RCA connector -- I think if something's plugged
into
> it, it disables the speaker.  It just might be that whatever
> mechanism does that is jammed, so the speaker disabled.

Even with the cable out, still nothing. Since I've already had to
reseat a couple chips on the board just to get it to boot up, I'm
assuming something's happened to the audio circuit. Working on the
PC-6001 when it's on is a huuuuuge pain, because the power supply is
mounted on top of the RF shield you have to remove to get at
everything.

>
> > Speaking of the FM-7, does anybody else have one?
>
> Nope.  Old computer collection already exceeds allocated storage
> space :)

The FM-7 is pretty cool. I only have one game for it, Thunder Force,
on cassette. The main two downsides to the thing is that although it
will work with a TV, it only outputs black & white. You've got to
hook it up to a 15khz RGB monitor for color. Also, there's no built
in Joystick support. You have to buy an external card to hook one
up, sort of like you have to do with a Sinclair Spectrum. There are
nicer models, the FM New 7 and the FM-77, but I bought the original
(and least expensive) model.

My goal is to get an example of every major Japanese 8 bit computer
line. So far I have a Sharp X1, NEC PC-8801, NEC PC-6001, the
Fujitsu FM-7, and of course an MSX computer.

> Just the NEC Trek.  If you can find ROMs, then it'll emulate the
PC-
> 6001.  For the other computers, google "Incomprehensible
Emulation."
> There are emulators for those computers, I think, but they're in
> Japanese.
>

I wonder, will the NEC Trek play PC-6001 cartridges/tapes and vice
versa?

Hey,
Name some of your prices please?
Thanks!
Vintagepc.
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computer museum--
his site is http://computermuseum.20m.com --- There's an E-mail there
somewhere...


Davey Brain wrote:

>Hi gang,
>I have a TI-74 Basicalc computer w/case that is my back-up TI-74. I am
>also selling a near mint boxed and complete Atari 1200XL cassette-based
>system, a mint boxed V-Tech I.Q.Unlimited computer and a complete (minus
>TV) boxed Timex-Sinclair 1000 16K system. I have been laid-off from HP
>since 7/27 and I am being forced to move from a 1 room house to a small
>apartment in the next 3 weeks. I need money badly so I am taking offers
>on these.
>
>Some facts: I paid $26.00 plus shipping for the TI-74 on eBay; it works
>well but it does have some writing in white on the case.  The Atari
>1200XL works well now that I worked on the keyboard. The V-Tech is
>absolutely perfect and like new but is missing the manual. The TS/1000
>works and even comes with some cassette programs and a cassette player
>to load them. I can take some digital pics and email them if anyone is
>interested. Please email me directly if you want more info or have an
>offer. Note: I am in the Akron/Canton area of Ohio.
>
>Feel free to forward these offers to other appropriate groups. I may be
>selling a lot of other vintage computer stuff (I have over 50 vintage
>systems) if things don't improve soon. As Lily Tomlin said, "No matter
>how cynical I get, I can't keep up."
>
>Sincerely,
>WarpDavey
>
>

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> No dice. BASIC recognized the command, and printed "OKAY" after a
> second or two, but that was it. I also looked at the audio output
to
> the built in speaker with an oscilloscope (in case the speaker
> itself was damaged), but there's no signal being sent to it.

Check that extra RCA connector -- I think if something's plugged into
it, it disables the speaker.  It just might be that whatever
mechanism does that is jammed, so the speaker disabled.

> Speaking of the FM-7, does anybody else have one?

Nope.  Old computer collection already exceeds allocated storage
space :)

> I definitely intend to play with the emulator a bit. Out of
> curiousity, does it just emulate the NEC Trek/PC-6001, or does it
> also support the PC-6001mk2 and/or the PC-6601?

Just the NEC Trek.  If you can find ROMs, then it'll emulate the PC-
6001.  For the other computers, google "Incomprehensible Emulation."
There are emulators for those computers, I think, but they're in
Japanese.

Hi gang,
I have a TI-74 Basicalc computer w/case that is my back-up TI-74. I am
also selling a near mint boxed and complete Atari 1200XL cassette-based
system, a mint boxed V-Tech I.Q.Unlimited computer and a complete (minus
TV) boxed Timex-Sinclair 1000 16K system. I have been laid-off from HP
since 7/27 and I am being forced to move from a 1 room house to a small
apartment in the next 3 weeks. I need money badly so I am taking offers
on these.

Some facts: I paid $26.00 plus shipping for the TI-74 on eBay; it works
well but it does have some writing in white on the case.  The Atari
1200XL works well now that I worked on the keyboard. The V-Tech is
absolutely perfect and like new but is missing the manual. The TS/1000
works and even comes with some cassette programs and a cassette player
to load them. I can take some digital pics and email them if anyone is
interested. Please email me directly if you want more info or have an
offer. Note: I am in the Akron/Canton area of Ohio.

Feel free to forward these offers to other appropriate groups. I may be
selling a lot of other vintage computer stuff (I have over 50 vintage
systems) if things don't improve soon. As Lily Tomlin said, "No matter
how cynical I get, I can't keep up."

Sincerely,
WarpDavey
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--- In homecomputerclub@yahoogroups.com, emucompboy <no_reply@y...>
wrote:

> If I remember correctly, which I probably don't, BASIC had the
PLAY
> command to make sound, e.g.
> PLAY "CDEFG"

No dice. BASIC recognized the command, and printed "OKAY" after a
second or two, but that was it. I also looked at the audio output to
the built in speaker with an oscilloscope (in case the speaker
itself was damaged), but there's no signal being sent to it. I also
tried the "PLAY" command on my Fujitsu FM-7 (A Japanese computer
from the same era with Microsoft Basic) and it played the notes just
fine.

Speaking of the FM-7, does anybody else have one?

> --
> Heck, grab the emulator from my site, and have a look at some of
the
> demo programs.  Some of them have a sort of mini-tutorial, and, if
I
> remember (which I probably don't), there were a couple of them
dealing
> with sound and music -- one of them played the theme from the Odd
> Couple.
>
> www.geocities.com/emucompboy
> Home of the Virtual MC-10
> (Was Home of the Virtual Aquarius, but I really really need to
update
> that).

I definitely intend to play with the emulator a bit. Out of
curiousity, does it just emulate the NEC Trek/PC-6001, or does it
also support the PC-6001mk2 and/or the PC-6601?

I also intend to play with the Aquarius emulator. I have an Aquarius
and a couple games, but I don't have the expansion pack that lets
you use joysticks so I can't really play them.

Try it without the game.  The NEC Trek has a built-in BASIC.

I could be wrong (and I probably am) but I think one of my computers,
which might have been the NEC Trek but then again might not have, had
an internal speaker and an audio-out connector -- and if anything was
plugged into the audio-out connector, the internal speaker was disabled.

My NEC Trek is in storage...

If I remember correctly, which I probably don't, BASIC had the PLAY
command to make sound, e.g.
PLAY "CDEFG"
--
Heck, grab the emulator from my site, and have a look at some of the
demo programs.  Some of them have a sort of mini-tutorial, and, if I
remember (which I probably don't), there were a couple of them dealing
with sound and music -- one of them played the theme from the Odd
Couple.

www.geocities.com/emucompboy
Home of the Virtual MC-10
(Was Home of the Virtual Aquarius, but I really really need to update
that).


--- In homecomputerclub@yahoogroups.com, "haohmaruus" <ccollet@e...>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I recently got a PC-6001, and after some minor repair work (some of
> the chips needed resocketing) I've got it up and running. But I can't
> seem to get any sound out of it. It has a built in speaker, but
> nothing comes out of it. I noticed a knob beneath it, is that the
> volume? And is there any way to hook audio up to a TV set? I noticed
> there's three RCA jacks on the thing. One's for composite video, one
> is for RF, but I don't know what the third is for.
>
> I've only got one game for it, Tutankham, so I guess it could be
> something wrong with the game itself.
>

> Is Tut a cartridge game, or a cassette game?  NEC Trek carts come
> up so infrequently, I don't have a handle on what is out there...
> --

It's a cartridge. At least I'm pretty sure it's Tutankham, it doesn't
look too much like the 2600 or Intellivision versions I've played. The
game title is in katakana (�c�^�"�J�[��), though, and it seems
phonetically to spell Tutankham. Plus it's by Konami, and when I do a
web search for �c�^�"�J�[�� I get web pages for Tutankham.

A good resource for what's out on the PC-6001/Trek (at least in Japan)
is http://p6-kei.hp.infoseek.co.jp/softindex.html. It not only has
screenshots of many games, but it also lets you know if it was
released on cartridge, tape, or disk. It's organized by developer, and
if you go to the Konami section (http://p6-
kei.hp.infoseek.co.jp/Konami.html) you'll see that they released
Amidar, Frogger, Scramble, Turpin, Super Cobra and Tutankham all on
cartridge. I'd love to find a copy of Turpin, it looks slightly better
than the Odyssey 2 version.

At 11:33 PM +0000 10/15/05, haohmaruus wrote:
> I've only got one game for it, Tutankham, so I guess it could
> be something wrong with the game itself.

Is Tut a cartridge game, or a cassette game?  NEC Trek carts come
up so infrequently, I don't have a handle on what is out there...
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Hi,

I recently got a PC-6001, and after some minor repair work (some of
the chips needed resocketing) I've got it up and running. But I can't
seem to get any sound out of it. It has a built in speaker, but
nothing comes out of it. I noticed a knob beneath it, is that the
volume? And is there any way to hook audio up to a TV set? I noticed
there's three RCA jacks on the thing. One's for composite video, one
is for RF, but I don't know what the third is for.

I've only got one game for it, Tutankham, so I guess it could be
something wrong with the game itself.

Davey Brain wrote:
> Members,
> You can ignore this test message. There once again seems to be a problem
> with my subscriptions & ownership/moderation at any Yahoo groups this
> morning. Sending of moderated messages was rejected 5 times these past 2
> hours and no Yahoo messages have been received for the last 3 hours.
>
> Sincerely,
> WarpDavey

Test received.

WarpDavey
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