Hi Meredith! I share your reply with Mark Roest. Andrius

Meredith L. Patterson wrote:
> Sometime in the next month or two I will be going to Ghent to take a
> workshop from Casa Calida (http://www.casacalida.be), which teaches
> people how to construct low-cost timber-and-strawbale homes. I suspect
> they will be quite interested in practical solutions for solar
> electricity and heat, and I'm interested in finding out more about the
> Butterfly for my own house project.
>
> Cheers,
> --mlp

>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Andrius Kulikauskas<ms@...> wrote:
>
>> Mark, Thank you for inviting us to work with your business
>> http://www.renewableswest.com I share with more groups so that we might
>> give serious thought. Please keep us posted. Your Solar Rover is
>> relevant for Ricardo, Pamela McLean's and Folabi Sunday's discussion of
>> how to power an IT centre in rural Nigeria. I have created a wiki page:
>> http://www.worknets.org/wiki.cgi?RenewablesWest
>> and through that page's metadata I included Renewables West in our Shop
>> With Us network http://www.shopwithus.org
>> Thank you to Leon Benjamin for his idea and phrase "winning by sharing"
>> http://www.winningbysharing.net
>> Andrius Kulikauskas, Minciu Sodas, http://www.ms.lt, ms@...
>>
>> Mark Roest wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Mark Roest <marklroest@...
>>> <mailto:marklroest@...>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Janet, Andrius and All,
>>>
>>> Last Sunday I spent several hours at the Maker Fair (see Make
>>> Magazine's website) and afterward discussing his family of
>>> inventions for sustainability, and the associated business
>>> opportunities. I thought of you all, and this seems like a
>>> good point to introduce it.
>>>
>>> Jon is the head of Kyoto, Free is the Sun,
>>> www.kyoto-energy.com <http://www.kyoto-energy.com>. I would
>>> like to invite discussion with you all about setting up one or
>>> more distributorships (larger scale) and / or dealerships
>>> (local level) to retail his product line. The Kyoto Family
>>> product group is particularly appropriate for small social
>>> ventures created by and around both Independent Thinkers and
>>> mutual support groups. This will generate real revenues, and
>>> it will also pave the way to creating complex solar businesses
>>> -- look at the Butterfly, which generates 800 watts per panel,
>>> plus 400 degree Celcius air and 70 degree C water from cooling
>>> the panels (it's a concentrating collector, 12 feet long, and
>>> tracks the sun on two axes!). That business can create
>>> revenues that can be the capital for building the houses he
>>> designed, which will sell for $1000 per 100 square foot (9
>>> square meters) module, which can be arranged 4 around a
>>> central space, which needs floor and roof to make a 5th module
>>> -- 500 square feet of high-tech living space, with
>>> eco-utilities, for $5000.
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you would like to participate in
>>> planning this social business venture. David Alan Foster,
>>> David's employer, and I are also building a solar sales
>>> business, Renewables West, which can source and sell globally;
>>> see www.renewableswest.com <http://www.renewableswest.com>.
>>> That is probably the vehicle we will use to work with Jon.
>>>
>>> Jon has a franchising system to make learning and managing
>>> relatively easy, but the minimum container-load shipments and
>>> Jon's habit of making products that start flat for shipping,
>>> mean large-budget purchases -- probably on the order of
>>> $50,000 to $150,000. That means we need to, and have the
>>> opportunity to, aggregate orders from multiple dealers and
>>> distributors, as long as we can cover the financing and get
>>> the loads broken down and safely shipped to their
>>> destinations. Who has more ideas and resources?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Mark Roest
>>>
>>>
>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Mark Roest <marklroest@...
>> <mailto:marklroest@...>> wrote:
>> Hello All!
>>
>> Sorry, I forgot to mention that Jon also set up a carbon credits
>> operation, so the cost of the energy saving and producing hardware can
>> be recovered from selling them to people in Germany, and he also has
>> financing, although I don't know the details yet. In other words, this
>> thing is set up to succeed, and to empower low-income populations to
>> succeed too -- in fact, that is his purpose in doing it in the first place!
>>
>> So do you want to make a difference with something that will go global,
>> while empowering holistichelping and your other groups?
>>
>> Please let me know, and give me a sense of the scale you think you can
>> operate on, by direct email, as well as posting: MarkLRoest@...
>> <mailto:MarkLRoest@...>.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -----------------
>>
>> Hello All again:
>>
>> By the way, I realized that some will ask what the relationship of my
>> communication is to the posting: I responded to the phrase, "winning by
>> sharing"!, because that is what I am seeking here, along with the others
>> in the network in the San Francisco Bay area.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
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