Dominic- Thank you for your excellent post, and again, for the patience you have exhibited throughout all this discussion. Let me just say, this is tapping...
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Jeff Peterson
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Feb 17, 2000 11:23 pm
Prof. Crossan, It wasn't my intention to pass BoC in review, but rather to raise a basic question regarding sources and method that seems frequently neglected...
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Mark T. Cameron
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Feb 18, 2000 1:18 am
Dr. Crossan, In BofC, you propose some tests to determine how what we now consider to be intracanonical versus extracanonical texts were viewed in the early ...
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Mike MacDonell
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Feb 18, 2000 1:20 am
Dear Dr. Crossan: Due to the directness of his challenge to your methodology, you are probably flinching about now at the mention of Dale Allison. However, I...
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Jeffrey B. Gibson
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Feb 18, 2000 2:56 pm
Apologies for this interruption. I discovered this morning in personal conversation with a Seminar member that a message he sent to the Seminar never arrived...
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John Dominic Crossan
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Feb 18, 2000 7:33 pm
You spoke, Jeff, about the "assessment and use of the Pauline evidence for Jesus' early ministry." My point about Pauline testimonia for the historical Jesus...
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John Dominic Crossan
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Feb 18, 2000 7:33 pm
I would not agree with you, Mark, on how you read the tables that I give on pages 125 & 127 of BofC. I did not intend any sort of crude combination of Van...
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John Dominic Crossan
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Feb 18, 2000 7:33 pm
You say, David, that "If one permits himself/herself to pick the presuppositions without restriction, then one is more than likely to pick the one that...
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John Dominic Crossan
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Feb 18, 2000 7:33 pm
You state, David, that "it finally occurs to me why Davidson drives the historians in the Jesus Seminar nuts (at least, that's how I read it, Davidson): if...
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John Dominic Crossan
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Feb 18, 2000 7:33 pm
Actually, Mike, I am not "flinching about now at the mention of Dale Allison." Two reasons: One is that I seldom flinch at challenge, but only at inaccuracy...
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John Dominic Crossan
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Feb 18, 2000 7:36 pm
Hi Jeffrey, I just sent in five responses. Dom...
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Jeffrey B. Gibson
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Feb 18, 2000 9:08 pm
May I remind Seminar members that should you wish to continue to discuss amongst **yourselves** the issues raised in any exchange between a given member and...
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DavidLoehr@...
Feb 19, 2000 1:51 am
Dominic: Well, this relevance-of-Jesus point is another Pandora's box (though perhaps not the Epicurean version, so not even Hope will remain inside). Off the...
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Brian McCarthy
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Feb 19, 2000 1:51 am
Dom, Given 1) the unique importance of Josephus for all our understanding of the world of Jesus and the emerging 'Christian39; movement; 2) Josephus heavy...
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Ted Weeden
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Feb 19, 2000 1:51 am
Dear Dom, Thank you for sharing in this e-mail discussion. I have been following the discussion over a number of topics and have not jumped in until now. I do...
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Brian McCarthy
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Feb 19, 2000 1:51 am
Dom, Like most Questers you seem to follow the Markan scenario with its public mission in S. Galilee, and a single journey to Jerusalem which ends in Jesus'...
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John Dominic Crossan
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Feb 19, 2000 3:04 pm
You mentioned two books, Brian, one of which I have read and the other I have not. I agree with you about Luttwak of which I have a well-marked-up copy. I...
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John Dominic Crossan
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Feb 19, 2000 3:04 pm
This will be a very limited response to your very detailed post, Ted, and you may want to come back again on separate points. I apologize that I am not able to...
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John Dominic Crossan
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Feb 19, 2000 3:04 pm
I am not quite certain, Davidson, what to do with your post which seems to have moved far beyond the protocols of the seminar into a discussion of whether...
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John Dominic Crossan
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Feb 19, 2000 3:04 pm
My own position has always been much more ambiguous, Brian, about following the Mark or John scenario. The way I put the problem in Jesus: a RevBio was this:...
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Jeffrey B. Gibson
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Feb 19, 2000 11:57 pm
A Break from protocol. I'm forwarding a message from Steve Mason which, contrary to protocol, is not a question for Professor Crossan (and which therefore does...
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Stephen C. Carlson
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Feb 20, 2000 12:08 am
Dear Dr. Crossan, Thank you for agreeing to participate in this on-line seminar. Your contributions have made this seminar a valuable and interesting ...
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Hope_Rosenbaum_Werner...
Feb 20, 2000 12:14 am
Professor Crossan: Although you have been thanked for your participation many times before, let me publicly add my thanks. As a non-scholar (a/k/a "lurker") ...
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Stevan Davies
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Feb 20, 2000 12:14 am
Hi Dom ... I find it immensely frustrating that Historical Jesus reconstructions are possible either by first solving the source-critical problems successfully...
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Bob Schacht
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Feb 20, 2000 12:14 am
At 10:04 AM 2/19/00 -0500, you wrote, in response to Brian, concerning how ... Dom, I am not aware of any scrap of evidence that Jesus was ever a peasant, or ...
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John Dominic Crossan
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Feb 20, 2000 4:43 pm
Thank you, Stephen, for an easy question or, at least, one I can answer easily. You ask "How should the Historical Jesus researcher take into account...
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John Dominic Crossan
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Feb 20, 2000 4:43 pm
We may have a misunderstanding here, Bob, about the point of my argument. It is sometimes said that Jesus must have gone up regularly to Jerusalem because that...
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John Dominic Crossan
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Feb 20, 2000 4:43 pm
You say, Stevan, that "if Thomas is not an independent source, your whole enterprise flounders." I agree with you absolutely and have tried, ad nauseam, as I...
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John Dominic Crossan
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Feb 20, 2000 4:43 pm
I have not read Pixner's article, Hope, and can only comment in general. I do not want to get trapped in a question of genetic relationships between Essene...
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Bob Schacht
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Feb 21, 2000 3:03 am
Professor Crossan, I want to preface my remarks by expressing my appreciation for your introduction of cultural anthropology as a major feature of the study of...