Kiochi, what is the Thanksgiving Holiday in JA. Is
that an old tradition or something that started after WW2?
I will try to catch up with you would love to make a contact with your
station LOLOL. ;)

Frank N6AQ

Koichi Kasamatsu wrote:
>
> Hi Doug and Shin,
>
> See you tomorrow! The band seems to be in good shape
> due to the sun spot currently getting higher.
>
> Here in Japan we are enjoying three day long weekend
> thanks to the Japanese Thanksgiving Day, Monday,
> 11/23/09. I will stay in town and enjoy playing radio.
>
> Dear Hex nuts,
>
> Any one should be welcome!
>
> Koichi
> JR1MLT
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: w6hb
> To: hex-beam@yahoogroups.com <mailto:hex-beam%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:31 AM
> Subject: [hex-beam] JA skeds on 17
>
> I have talked with Shin, JR1NHD, and Koichi, JR1MLT, yesterday and
> today on 17. For Hex to Hex Q's, we will be on again next Saturday
> (US) at 0000 Z / 1600 PST on 18.123 SSB. All are welcome. Shin has 1
> kW, Koichi has 200 watts and I have 100 watts.
>
> 73 - Doug - W6HB
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Hi Doug and Shin,

See you tomorrow!   The band seems to be in good shape
due to the sun spot currently getting higher.

Here in Japan we are enjoying three day long weekend
thanks to the Japanese Thanksgiving Day, Monday,
11/23/09.  I will stay in town and enjoy playing radio.

Dear Hex nuts,

Any one should be welcome!

Koichi
JR1MLT


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: w6hb
   To: hex-beam@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:31 AM
   Subject: [hex-beam] JA skeds on 17



   I have talked with Shin, JR1NHD, and Koichi, JR1MLT, yesterday and today on
17. For Hex to Hex Q's, we will be on again next Saturday (US) at 0000 Z / 1600
PST on 18.123 SSB. All are welcome. Shin has 1 kW, Koichi has 200 watts and I
have 100 watts.

   73 - Doug - W6HB






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Yes, I forgot....we do not have the market cornered on cold weather  :)
John-k3jvb


In a message dated 11/20/2009 9:13:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
nx7tt@... writes:




Idaho...early winter....little snow...11 degrees...but bright and sunny and
  no wind...hard on the hands HI HI...
I understand..

ED  NX7TT
Idaho Falls, Id

--- On Thu, 11/19/09, _bur52@..._ (mailto:bur52@...)
<_bur52@..._ (mailto:bur52@...) > wrote:

From: _bur52@..._ (mailto:bur52@...)   <_bur52@..._
(mailto:bur52@...) >
Subject: Re: [hex-beam]  Lowering a push-up mast
To: _hex-beam@yahoogrouphex-b_ (mailto:hex-beam@yahoogroups.com)
Date:  Thursday, November 19, 2009, 5:05 PM



That is how I did  it too. But on the East coast, middle of winter, at 24
degrees, it is very  tough on the hands. Another reason I went with the
roof
tower. That one ,  I can climb.
John-k3jvb

In a message dated 11/19/2009 11:14:00 A.M.  Eastern Standard Time,
_tsm1@..._ (mailto:tsm1@...)  writes:

> 1b. Re:  Getting the Hex Beam in the Air
> Posted by: "Grant Youngman" __nq5t@..._ (mailto:_nq5t@...) . com_
(mailto:_nq5t@..._ (mailto:nq5t@...) )
nq5t
> Date: Wed  Nov 18, 2009 8:19 am ((PST))
>
> So, a question beyond putting it  up is getting it down.
>
> back down in a controlled fashion  --e.g., something other than removing
> the cotter pins, loosening the  clamp and then jumping off the ladder and
> out of the way while the  section falls.

I put a gloved hand around the upper mast section,  squeeze tight, then
release the cotter pin / clamp and slower lower it,  either hand over hand,
or just let it slide through my gloved  hand.

Opposite of how it goes up.

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wow that is one i did not know...I have worked them both...they were both really
good here yesterday on 15...

ED NX7TT
Idaho Falls, Id

--- On Thu, 11/19/09, w6hb@... <w6hb@...> wrote:


From: w6hb@... <w6hb@...>
Subject: [hex-beam] Re:Hexbeams in ZS
To: hex-beam@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 10:55 PM


 



Danie's son is Andrew, ZS3RF. They have separate stations and share the
same Hex antennas.

73 - Doug - W6HB

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Just as a thought, I have always added strength to my push up masts by having
significant overlap of the sections.  I then drill and pin the sections. I used
a 40-foot mast and got about 28 feet out of the mast.  Very stiff and has been
up for abotu a decade w/o problems. This mast is mounted on a flat metal rood at
about 11 feet.
73 de Barry W4WB



--- In hex-beam@yahoogroups.com, "broudar63" <broudar63@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In hex-beam@yahoogroups.com, "w6onv" <w6onv@> wrote:
> >
> > What is the most cost effective way to get my hex beam atleast 20-25' in the
air? I was under the impression I could us a push up mast, but some more digging
and I have been told this is not the best idea. I do not want to break the bank
on getting the hex up. If I have to leave it at 15' then so be it. I was hoping
for something that could collapse to about 10-11' and extend to 20-25'. Any
suggestions on how some of you have done it with a mast?
> >
> > I originally intended to mount a push up mast (much like K4KIO has on his
site) to a 4x4 post that is set in concrete. Well, the post is set and I am
still in search of mast pieces to finish the job.. While 15' has been nice so
far, I know 25' would be better, but it must collapse for the HOA requirements I
am under.
> >
> > Thanks & 73
> > Steve W6ONV
>
>
> Hey Steve,
> I have been using a military surplus segmented mast. I drilled it and pinned
each segment up to 25 feet. It has worked well but it is not great when it comes
time to do repairs. So I found a great source for Rohn masts and they have a
great price on shipping. I have a 40 foot mast and a 50 foot mast. I plan on
pulling one section out of the 40 and making it a 30 foot telescoping mast. I
really haven't heard of anyone having problems with the Rohn masts. I would make
sure it's well guyed and I think short of a hurricane it will be ok.
>
> This the website for anyone who's looking for a mast.
>
>  http://www.3starinc.com/rohn_h50_telescopic_antenna_mast.html
>
> I bought a 40 and 50 and with shipping from VA to FL. It came to 299. He said
he shipped a 50 to WA and the shipping came to 95.
>
>
> 73
> Greg
> K2GSP
> >
>

Idaho...early winter....little snow...11 degrees...but bright and sunny and no
wind...hard on the hands HI HI...
  I understand...

ED NX7TT
Idaho Falls, Id

--- On Thu, 11/19/09, bur52@... <bur52@...> wrote:


From: bur52@... <bur52@...>
Subject: Re: [hex-beam] Lowering a push-up mast
To: hex-beam@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 5:05 PM


 



That is how I did it too. But on the East coast, middle of winter, at 24
degrees, it is very tough on the hands. Another reason I went with the roof
tower. That one , I can climb.
John-k3jvb


In a message dated 11/19/2009 11:14:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
tsm1@... writes:

> 1b. Re: Getting the Hex Beam in the Air
> Posted by: "Grant Youngman" _nq5t@.... com_ (mailto:nq5t@...)
nq5t
> Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:19 am ((PST))
>
> So, a question beyond putting it up is getting it down.
>
> back down in a controlled fashion --e.g., something other than removing
> the cotter pins, loosening the clamp and then jumping off the ladder and
> out of the way while the section falls.

I put a gloved hand around the upper mast section, squeeze tight, then
release the cotter pin / clamp and slower lower it, either hand over hand,
or just let it slide through my gloved hand.

Opposite of how it goes up.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]











[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Danie's son is Andrew, ZS3RF. They have separate stations and share the
same Hex antennas.

73 - Doug - W6HB




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Hi,

I notice this on my wire antennas too.

Trying to decide which HexBeam to get. The Octobeam looks very interesting.

Tnx,

Mike KA2FIR

--- In hex-beam@yahoogroups.com, bur52@... wrote:
>
> My Hex seems to have better tx than rx. But I think it more due to
> propagation, and the angle of radiation on rx.  I always seem to get a  little
> better report than I give. But So much for s meter readings...LOL
>
> I worked Tanzinia the other day on 15 meters. He was 3x3, my report was
> 5x9. So much for proagation.
> The bottom line, I made the contact, it works. It works very well for it's
> compact size !
> Just wish I could figure a way to get the 40 meter a little  smaller....LOL
> John-k3jvb
>
>
> In a message dated 11/1/2009 7:56:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> gbousman@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> My experience has been the opposite - I have occasionally clearly copied DX
>  stations who cannot hear me. I have particularly noticed this in RTTY
> contesting and somewhat on SSB. It is an infrequent experience but
> nonetheless, I have experienced it enough to believe that the Hex beam hears 
slightly
> bit better that it transmits. However I have also enjoyed the  wonderful
> excitement of busting through pileups with my K4KIO/G3TXQ 6-Band BB  hex beam
> on a number of occasions and therefore know that it is putting out a  very
> competitive transmitting signal. Overall, my belief is that the hex beam
> "hears" extremely well and that it's receiving characteristics are superior.
>
> 73
> Gordon NW7D
>
> --- In _hex-beam@yahoogrouphex-b_ (mailto:hex-beam@yahoogroups.com) ,
> "Steve" <steve@> wrote:
> >
> > I can't think of anything  that would cause these symptoms - a hexbeam of
> any flavour is a reciprocal  device. The A/B switching on Rx I have been
> doing to compare hexbeam Gain with  a reference dipole does exactly what you
> would expect - bigger signals from  the hexbeam.
> >
> > It can be very difficult to assess an antenna on  Rx unless you have a
> known reference with which to compare it - you are at the  mercy of
> propagation conditions. What appears to be a lack of signals might  simply be
a
> "closed" band.
> >
> > I'll correct my first sentence -  there is one explanation which might
> account for 10s of dB difference, but I  hardly dare suggest it ..... forgive
> me - could the Rx attenuator be switched  in?
> >
> > 73,
> > Steve G3TXQ
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

That is how I did it too. But on the East coast, middle of winter, at 24
degrees, it is very tough on the hands. Another reason I went with the roof
tower. That one , I can climb.
John-k3jvb


In a message dated 11/19/2009 11:14:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
tsm1@... writes:




> 1b. Re: Getting the Hex Beam in the Air
> Posted by: "Grant  Youngman" _nq5t@..._ (mailto:nq5t@...)
nq5t
> Date: Wed Nov  18, 2009 8:19 am ((PST))
>
> So, a question beyond putting it up  is getting it down.
>
> back down in a controlled fashion --e.g.,  something other than removing
> the cotter pins, loosening the clamp and  then jumping off the ladder and
> out of the way while the section  falls.

I put a gloved hand around the upper mast section, squeeze  tight, then
release the cotter pin / clamp and slower lower it, either hand  over hand,
or just let it slide through my gloved hand.

Opposite of  how it goes up.






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Yes what I have done...is let got of the pin and used my hands to let it slip
down to a resting spot...then do it again for each section...But working on the
ground letting the top
section down can be rough on the hands....but again...the lift woill come in
handy...
Once Iam able to put up the Octobeam will use the lift to make things such much
easier..
 
 

ED NX7TT
Idaho Falls, Id

--- On Thu, 11/19/09, Tom Mandera <tsm1@...> wrote:


From: Tom Mandera <tsm1@...>
Subject: [hex-beam] Lowering a push-up mast
To: hex-beam@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 4:10 PM


 



> 1b. Re: Getting the Hex Beam in the Air
> Posted by: "Grant Youngman" nq5t@... nq5t
> Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:19 am ((PST))
>
> So, a question beyond putting it up is getting it down.
>
> back down in a controlled fashion --e.g., something other than removing
> the cotter pins, loosening the clamp and then jumping off the ladder and
> out of the way while the section falls.

I put a gloved hand around the upper mast section, squeeze tight, then
release the cotter pin / clamp and slower lower it, either hand over hand,
or just let it slide through my gloved hand.

Opposite of how it goes up.










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also ZS3RF ... worked him yesterday on 15 hex to hex....

ED NX7TT
Idaho Falls, Id

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, w6hb <w6hb@...> wrote:


From: w6hb <w6hb@...>
Subject: [hex-beam] Hexbeams in ZS
To: hex-beam@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 7:41 PM


 



Hi All,

Looking for Hex Q's from ZS? Danie, ZS3D, has a 5-band homebrewed unit and can
be found at 21355 kHz most days around 1600-1630Z. He also has a 40 meter Hex
and can be found on 7133 kHz around 0300Z.

73 - Doug - W6HB











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> 1b. Re: Getting the Hex Beam in the Air
>     Posted by: "Grant Youngman" nq5t@... nq5t
>     Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:19 am ((PST))
>
> So, a question beyond putting it up is getting it down.
>
> back down in a controlled fashion --e.g., something other than removing
> the cotter pins, loosening the clamp and then jumping off the ladder and
> out of the way while the section falls.

I put a gloved hand around the upper mast section, squeeze tight, then
release the cotter pin / clamp and slower lower it, either hand over hand,
or just let it slide through my gloved hand.

Opposite of how it goes up.

Hi All,

Looking for Hex Q's from ZS? Danie, ZS3D, has a 5-band homebrewed unit and can
be found at 21355 kHz most days around 1600-1630Z. He also has a 40 meter Hex
and can be found on 7133 kHz around 0300Z.

73 - Doug - W6HB

So, a question beyond putting it up is getting it down.

i'm currently using a fiberglass 3-section push up.  I have friction clamps
between sections so I can relatively easily control descent on the few occasions
I've needed to lower the mast.  I do want to replace the fiberglass with a metal
pole -- maybe a Traffie HDX or Rohn push up-- because I don't think the
fiberglass can take all the twisting torque long term, but am curious about how
to get the typical multi-section metal pole back down in a controlled fashion
--e.g., something other than removing the cotter pins, loosening the clamp and
then jumping off the ladder and out of the way while the section falls.

Grant/NQ5T

On Nov 18, 2009, at 9:47 AM, Lou Campbell wrote:

> I have my hex ona 50' rohn push up...I use a stake in the ground to keep the
bottom from moving.. then I have it guyed to rohns specs for 120 MPH wind... has
been up 4 years now almost...
>   push up cost me 100.00....  so hope tht helps
>
>



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I have my hex ona 50' rohn push up...I use a stake in the ground to keep the
bottom from moving.. then I have it guyed to rohns specs for 120 MPH wind... has
been up 4 years now almost...
  push up cost me 100.00....  so hope tht helps

ED NX7TT
Idaho Falls, Id

--- On Tue, 11/17/09, broudar63 <broudar63@...> wrote:


From: broudar63 <broudar63@...>
Subject: [hex-beam] Re: Getting the Hex Beam in the Air
To: hex-beam@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 10:25 PM


 





--- In hex-beam@yahoogroup s.com, "w6onv" <w6onv@...> wrote:
>
> What is the most cost effective way to get my hex beam atleast 20-25' in the
air? I was under the impression I could us a push up mast, but some more digging
and I have been told this is not the best idea. I do not want to break the bank
on getting the hex up. If I have to leave it at 15' then so be it. I was hoping
for something that could collapse to about 10-11' and extend to 20-25'. Any
suggestions on how some of you have done it with a mast?
>
> I originally intended to mount a push up mast (much like K4KIO has on his
site) to a 4x4 post that is set in concrete. Well, the post is set and I am
still in search of mast pieces to finish the job.. While 15' has been nice so
far, I know 25' would be better, but it must collapse for the HOA requirements I
am under.
>
> Thanks & 73
> Steve W6ONV

Hey Steve,
I have been using a military surplus segmented mast. I drilled it and pinned
each segment up to 25 feet. It has worked well but it is not great when it comes
time to do repairs. So I found a great source for Rohn masts and they have a
great price on shipping. I have a 40 foot mast and a 50 foot mast. I plan on
pulling one section out of the 40 and making it a 30 foot telescoping mast. I
really haven't heard of anyone having problems with the Rohn masts. I would make
sure it's well guyed and I think short of a hurricane it will be ok.

This the website for anyone who's looking for a mast.

http://www.3starinc .com/rohn_ h50_telescopic_ antenna_mast. html

I bought a 40 and 50 and with shipping from VA to FL. It came to 299. He said he
shipped a 50 to WA and the shipping came to 95.

73
Greg
K2GSP
>











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I have the same basic one from Phillips (ar-500) and have been using it
for 2 years now... No problems

Alex


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Those towers sound nice ! But getting them to SE Penna, would be a issue  !
John-k3jvb


In a message dated 11/17/2009 6:34:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
duke.hoang@... writes:




If anyone wants a nice 55 ft tubular tower or a 40 ft tubular  tower
set-up to support their HexBeam, let me know. I have two  towers
available. Both are made by Wilson. They're free standing  tubular
tower. The 40ft has a free standing base with a raising fixture,  the 55
ft has a rotor base. Towers are located in Southern California.  Both
in excellent condition. Pick-up only. E-mail me direct for more  infos.
_Radiona1a@..._ (mailto:Radiona1a@...)

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I started with the Rohn-50, discarded the thin top section. I made brackets
  for the rear of the qth. It was fastened to about 18 feet. Then above that
guyed  on two levels. I used a Channel master rotor.
Worked great for three years. Then the wife started making noise about the
guy wires,,,
When to a Glenn Martin roof tower. I find that the best middle ground, not
a full tower, but no guys either.
John-k3jvb


In a message dated 11/17/2009 6:18:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
w6onv@... writes:




Greg,

Thanks for the link on the Rohn H50. I acquired a H20 from a  local ham who
had it lying around in the backyard, unused. While not optimal,  it has
worked better than I expected. I used brackets and mounted it to the  external
wall on the garage and I have a ladder at the base so when I need to  raise
it I climb the ladder, push it up and then go operate. Not sure this is  the
way I want to continue operating using the hex beam, but its the best I
can do for this current housing situation and the HOAs I must work  around.

I will look into the H50 a bit more serious now because I need  to find a
better way to mount the hex on the mast. Let's just say I rigged the
connection, but I am not at all happy with how it's currently working  out.

73, Steve W6ONV
--- On Tue, 11/17/09, broudar63 <_broudar63@..._
(mailto:broudar63@...) >  wrote:

From: broudar63 <_broudar63@..._ (mailto:broudar63@...) >
Subject:  [hex-beam] Re: Getting the Hex Beam in the Air
To: _hex-beam@yahoogrouphex-b_ (mailto:hex-beam@yahoogroups.com)
Date:  Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 10:25 PM



--- In  hex-beam@yahoogroup s.com, "w6onv" <w6onv@...>  wrote:

>

> What is the most cost effective way to get my  hex beam atleast 20-25' in
the air? I was under the impression I could us a  push up mast, but some
more digging and I have been told this is not the best  idea. I do not want to
break the bank on getting the hex up. If I have to  leave it at 15' then so
be it. I was hoping for something that could collapse  to about 10-11' and
extend to 20-25'. Any suggestions on how some of you have  done it with a
mast?

>

> I originally intended to mount a  push up mast (much like K4KIO has on
his site) to a 4x4 post that is set in  concrete. Well, the post is set and I
am still in search of mast pieces to  finish the job.. While 15' has been
nice so far, I know 25' would be better,  but it must collapse for the HOA
requirements I am under.

>

> Thanks & 73

> Steve W6ONV

Hey  Steve,

I have been using a military surplus segmented mast. I drilled  it and
pinned each segment up to 25 feet. It has worked well but it is not  great when
it comes time to do repairs. So I found a great source for Rohn  masts and
they have a great price on shipping. I have a 40 foot mast and a 50  foot
mast. I plan on pulling one section out of the 40 and making it a 30 foot
telescoping mast. I really haven't heard of anyone having problems with the
Rohn masts. I would make sure it's well guyed and I think short of a hurricane
it will be ok.

This the website for anyone who's looking for a mast.

_http://www.3starinc_ (http://www.3starinc/)  .com/rohn_ h50_telescopic_
antenna_mast. html

I bought a 40 and 50 and with shipping from VA to  FL. It came to 299. He
said he shipped a 50 to WA and the shipping came to  95.

73

Greg

K2GSP

>

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

If anyone wants a nice 55 ft tubular tower or a 40 ft tubular tower
set-up to support their HexBeam, let me know.   I have two towers
available.  Both are made by Wilson.  They're free standing tubular
tower.  The 40ft has a free standing base with a raising fixture, the 55
ft has a rotor base.  Towers are located in Southern California.  Both
in excellent condition.  Pick-up only.  E-mail me direct for more infos.
Radiona1a@...





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Greg,

Thanks for the link on the Rohn H50. I acquired a H20 from a local ham who had
it lying around in the backyard, unused. While not optimal, it has worked better
than I expected. I used brackets and mounted it to the external wall on the
garage and I have a ladder at the base so when I need to raise it I climb the
ladder, push it up and then go operate. Not sure this is the way I want to
continue operating using the hex beam, but its the best I can do for this
current housing situation and the HOAs I must work around.

I will look into the H50 a bit more serious now because I need to find a better
way to mount the hex on the mast. Let's just say I rigged the connection, but I
am not at all happy with how it's currently working out.

73, Steve W6ONV
--- On Tue, 11/17/09, broudar63 <broudar63@...> wrote:

From: broudar63 <broudar63@...>
Subject: [hex-beam] Re: Getting the Hex Beam in the Air
To: hex-beam@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 10:25 PM







 













--- In hex-beam@yahoogroup s.com, "w6onv" <w6onv@...> wrote:

>

> What is the most cost effective way to get my hex beam atleast 20-25' in the
air? I was under the impression I could us a push up mast, but some more digging
and I have been told this is not the best idea. I do not want to break the bank
on getting the hex up. If I have to leave it at 15' then so be it. I was hoping
for something that could collapse to about 10-11' and extend to 20-25'. Any
suggestions on how some of you have done it with a mast?

>

> I originally intended to mount a push up mast (much like K4KIO has on his
site) to a 4x4 post that is set in concrete. Well, the post is set and I am
still in search of mast pieces to finish the job.. While 15' has been nice so
far, I know 25' would be better, but it must collapse for the HOA requirements I
am under.

>

> Thanks & 73

> Steve W6ONV



Hey Steve,

I have been using a military surplus segmented mast. I drilled it and pinned
each segment up to 25 feet. It has worked well but it is not great when it comes
time to do repairs. So I found a great source for Rohn masts and they have a
great price on shipping. I have a 40 foot mast and a 50 foot mast. I plan on
pulling one section out of the 40 and making it a 30 foot telescoping mast. I
really haven't heard of anyone having problems with the Rohn masts. I would make
sure it's well guyed and I think short of a hurricane it will be ok.



This the website for anyone who's looking for a mast.



http://www.3starinc .com/rohn_ h50_telescopic_ antenna_mast. html



I bought a 40 and 50 and with shipping from VA to FL. It came to 299. He said he
shipped a 50 to WA and the shipping came to 95.



73

Greg

K2GSP

>

























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Thanks Bill. That will work nicely.

--- In hex-beam@yahoogroups.com, greathounder@... wrote:
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> Try this link...Bill  N8VWI   _http://k4kio.com/_ (http://k4kio.com/)
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>
> In a message dated 11/14/2009 9:20:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> broudar63@... writes:
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> Hey folks,
> I'm bringing my beam down for a rework. I remember seeing  someone selling
> precut element wires and center post feedline. I can't seem to  find it. I
> would greatly appreciate it if someone could point me in the right  direction.
>
> Thanks 73
> Greg
>
> K2GSP
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--- In hex-beam@yahoogroups.com, "w6onv" <w6onv@...> wrote:
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> What is the most cost effective way to get my hex beam atleast 20-25' in the
air? I was under the impression I could us a push up mast, but some more digging
and I have been told this is not the best idea. I do not want to break the bank
on getting the hex up. If I have to leave it at 15' then so be it. I was hoping
for something that could collapse to about 10-11' and extend to 20-25'. Any
suggestions on how some of you have done it with a mast?
>
> I originally intended to mount a push up mast (much like K4KIO has on his
site) to a 4x4 post that is set in concrete. Well, the post is set and I am
still in search of mast pieces to finish the job.. While 15' has been nice so
far, I know 25' would be better, but it must collapse for the HOA requirements I
am under.
>
> Thanks & 73
> Steve W6ONV


Hey Steve,
I have been using a military surplus segmented mast. I drilled it and pinned
each segment up to 25 feet. It has worked well but it is not great when it comes
time to do repairs. So I found a great source for Rohn masts and they have a
great price on shipping. I have a 40 foot mast and a 50 foot mast. I plan on
pulling one section out of the 40 and making it a 30 foot telescoping mast. I
really haven't heard of anyone having problems with the Rohn masts. I would make
sure it's well guyed and I think short of a hurricane it will be ok.

This the website for anyone who's looking for a mast.

  http://www.3starinc.com/rohn_h50_telescopic_antenna_mast.html

I bought a 40 and 50 and with shipping from VA to FL. It came to 299. He said he
shipped a 50 to WA and the shipping came to 95.


73
Greg
K2GSP
>

Hi Rene I have a 20 meter Traffie Hexbeam mounted on the NTE U-106 with no
problems.......  But be aware that the rotor is limited to turning in only
the clockwise direction from North.  I plan to replace it with one that I
hope turns both ways from North (Channel Master 9521)

73's
Hanford WA4LZC


-----Original Message-----
From: hex-beam@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hex-beam@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of k5jx
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 06:39
To: hex-beam@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [hex-beam] Rotator Question


Greetings, everyone.

Does anyone have any experience rotating a hexbeam with the NTE
Electronics rotator appearing at the following link?

http://www.weisd.com/store2/antenna_rotator.pdf
<http://www.weisd.com/store2/antenna_rotator.pdf>

I would appreciate any comments, pro or con. Please feel free to contact
me directly.

Thanks/73.

Rene, K5JX



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Yahoo! Groups Links

Sarge....email Bill Gilmore at OctoBeam@... .  I think he is
running a special for the next 5 OctoBeams sold.
K7Max


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarge" <smd_1@...>
To: <hex-beam@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 8:21 AM
Subject: RE: [hex-beam] Octobeam is a THREE element


I don't see a price on the website yet. Anyone know the price and
availability?

  Thanks, Sarge



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From: hex-beam@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hex-beam@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of K7Max
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 10:15 AM
To: hex-beam@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [hex-beam] Octobeam is a THREE element


I am one of the beta testers and the OctoBeam works! The first day I worked
WA, OH, England, British Columbia and Belgium and the worst signal report
was 5 x 2 (Ohio), all others were 5 x 7, 8 & 9 with the antenna base at 8ft
and running 100 watts. I am awaiting an alignment bearing before I raise
the beam higher to complete the beta testing. The OctoBeam is similar to
assembly of a Hex Beam, just two more spreaders and a reflector element.

k7max
Phoenix, Az









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I don’t see a price on the website yet. Anyone know the price and
availability?

  Thanks, Sarge



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From: hex-beam@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hex-beam@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of K7Max
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 10:15 AM
To: hex-beam@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [hex-beam] Octobeam is a THREE element





I am one of the beta testers and the OctoBeam works! The first day I worked
WA, OH, England, British Columbia and Belgium and the worst signal report
was 5 x 2 (Ohio), all others were 5 x 7, 8 & 9 with the antenna base at 8ft
and running 100 watts. I am awaiting an alignment bearing before I raise
the beam higher to complete the beta testing. The OctoBeam is similar to
assembly of a Hex Beam, just two more spreaders and a reflector element.

k7max
Phoenix, Az

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony MW0JZE" <laptop@inkinkink. <mailto:laptop%40inkinkink.net>
net>
To: <hex-beam@yahoogroup <mailto:hex-beam%40yahoogroups.com> s.com>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 5:21 AM
Subject: Re: [hex-beam] Octobeam is a THREE element

This should answer the question

" 9/10/2009 - We have our 3 beta testers committed to the program. We are
now under way. Note: 2 of our beta testers will be testing the OctoBeam side

by side with a Hex-Beam. This should be interesting. Come back frequently
for updates...."

MMM Could it be a HEX/Spider hybrid?

73's Ant MWØJZE
Elecraft K3 #485
MC0SHL DX & Contest Group
www.mc0shl.com
www.mw0jze.co.uk
www.pmtdxgoup.co.uk
Seach my log on line
http://www.clublog.
<http://www.clublog.org/logsearch.php?log=MW0JZE&iframe=1>
org/logsearch.php?log=MW0JZE&iframe=1
Eat, Sleep, Dream the ultimate DX Holiday!

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From: "nm5s" <nm5s@... <mailto:nm5s%40yahoo.com> >
To: hex-beam@yahoogroup <mailto:hex-beam%40yahoogroups.com> s.com
Sent: Wednesday, 11 November, 2009 2:13:32 PM
Subject: [hex-beam] Octobeam is a THREE element

I read on octobeam.com that their soon to be available product has the same
11 turn radius and similar features to the Hexbeam, but with 3 elements.
Sounds like very close element spacing or someone thinking out of the box

Alan, NM5S

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Greetings, everyone.

Does anyone have any experience rotating a hexbeam with the NTE
Electronics rotator appearing at the following link?

http://www.weisd.com/store2/antenna_rotator.pdf
<http://www.weisd.com/store2/antenna_rotator.pdf>

I would appreciate any comments, pro or con. Please feel free to contact
me directly.

Thanks/73.

Rene, K5JX



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Harry,

I agree!

I think I've always assumed that the fellow who's ambitious (brave, crazy)
enough to tackle a full-size 40m hex is probably also going to tackle a really
high tower ;)

73,
Steve G3TXQ

--- In hex-beam@yahoogroups.com, "wb3bel" <wb3bel@...> wrote:
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> I like the hex.  But for most amateurs with limited tower height, alternatives
for the low bands may be more achievable.
>
> 73,
> Harry WB3BEL
>

Hi,
  Heard you work him and I got him just after you...I will be interested to see
how he will do
once he gets his hex there...

ED NX7TT
Idaho Falls, Id

--- On Sun, 11/15/09, w6hb <w6hb@...> wrote:


From: w6hb <w6hb@...>
Subject: [hex-beam] Hexnut CT1ITZ in Angola
To: hex-beam@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 12:26 AM


 



Hexnut Paulo, CT1ITZ, is in Angola with the call of D2CQ. He is using 100 watts
to a Windom there and was holding court on 20 forever yesterday. I had a couple
minutes to ragchew in the middle of the pileup and he hopes to have a Hex there
in the future.

73 - Doug - W6HB











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Steve,
Yes, I guess I did exaggerate a bit. But the advice is still valid.  Using a
hexbeam support mast as a vertical for longer wavelengths than 30m band provides
good performance with low complexity.

For DX the low radiation angles are very important.  You confirmed that the hex
at 35ft does not have better gain than the vertical below 20 deg which includes
some of the most important takeoff angles for DX.

The support mast is already there, and it much easier to maintain than a huge
full size low band hex beam.

The vertical will be better than a low height bent single element horizontal
dipole integrated into a hex frame.  It may be better than many of the loaded or
size reduced hex array configurations at low height.

If gain and directivity are wanted, one might use creatively engineered
conducting guy lines in conjunction with the mast.  For example something along
the lines of the spitfire array...Even could be folded W or C  shape if you like
themes...

I like the hex.  But for most amateurs with limited tower height, alternatives
for the low bands may be more achievable.

73,
Harry WB3BEL



--- In hex-beam@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <steve@...> wrote:
>
> Harry,
>
> I don't think I'd be tempted to build a 40m hexbeam, but an EZNEC model I just
ran doesn't quite support what you are saying:
>
> A 40m hex at 35ft maintained its directivity for all take-off angles up to 35
degrees.
>
> Compared to a ground-mounted 40m quarter-wave vertical over average ground,
the hex at 35 ft was its equal at very low take-off angles, and better at any
take-off angle above 20 degrees.
>
> So, at very low angles the hex would have no more gain than the vertical, but
it would have useful directivity
>
> Note, these figures were for a full-size 40m hex - far too big for me:) I
assumed moderate ground losses for the vertical - 10 ohms.
>
> 73,
> Steve G3TXQ
>

Hi Doug and Shin,

It was very nice of chatting with you guys this morning (Japan time)
on 17 m.  Hex to Hex QSO makes me always excited.

I will listen to 18.123 next weekend and welcome any one to join!

Koichi
JR1MLT


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: w6hb
   To: hex-beam@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:31 AM
   Subject: [hex-beam] JA skeds on 17



   I have talked with Shin, JR1NHD, and Koichi, JR1MLT, yesterday and today on
17. For Hex to Hex Q's, we will be on again next Saturday (US) at 0000 Z / 1600
PST on 18.123 SSB. All are welcome. Shin has 1 kW, Koichi has 200 watts and I
have 100 watts.

   73 - Doug - W6HB






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