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Re: [hex-beam] Re: Center post

Bill,
I was going on appearance only on the size. The UV resistance
of the electrical schedule 80 PVC conduit is a plus.

The F1LPT baseplate "appears" to be not as thick as the baseplate
material that I use.

73,

Ron W4RDM


ko6hl@... wrote:
>
>
> Ron,
>
> FYI...
> 1" Schedule 40 dimensions: OD=1.315", WALL=0.143", ID=1.029"
> 1" Schedule 80 dimensions: OD=1.315", WALL=0.190", ID=0.935"
>
> That is approximately a 25% increase in wall thickness, not the 100%
> increase you stated below.
>
> The schedule 40 PVC is incredibly strong under stress. This includes
> bending, tension and compression. Granted, the schedule 80 is
> stronger, however, it is also more expensive, and heavier, as are the
> fittings, and in my opinion, totally unnecessary.
>
> There were some recent photos uploaded by F1LPT showing the failure of
> his aluminum base plate and spreaders. It seems the only part of his
> hexbeam to have survived the storm was the center post. It would be
> interesting to learn what the dimensions of his baseplate, spreader
> and center post materials were.
>
> 73!
>
> Bill, KO6HL
>
> --- In hex-beam@yahoogroups.com <mailto:hex-beam%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Ron Mott <w4rdm@...> wrote:
> >
> > Ant,
> > Here in the states I use schedule 80 PVC electrical conduit that is
> > gray in color on the 10 - 20 meter version. I use fiberglass tubing on
> > the 30/40 meter hex wire beam.
> >
> > The schedule 80 PVC electrical conduit is about two times thicker than
> > the schedule 40 pvc water pipe.
> >
> > You may want to try looking at a electrical outlet supply for the
> > electrical pvc conduit.
> >
> > Good Luck...
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Ron W4RDM
> >
> > Anthony MW0JZE wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Hexbeam lovers!
> > >
> > > I have managed to get my Hex in the air this weekend and wow well
> > > impressed, so firstly many thanks to all forum members for help and
> > > advice, and also many thanks to Steve G3TXQ and Leo K4KIO for their
> > > hard work in answering many forms of questions and the many hours of
> > > developing this broadband version of what is becoming a very popular
> > > antenna. I worked at least 5 USA stations that were also using the
> Hex
> > > in the small hours of Sunday morning on 20m on my first test. PS
> first
> > > station worked was N4NM in GA who passed me to his buddy NU6L who was
> > > 9+ 10 over hi hi, was impressed with that :-)
> > >
> > > My Question for the forum is this!
> > >
> > > I have made my center post out of PVC water pipe and cut it and
> > > sleeved it at every feed point so I can place the coax inside the
> post
> > > away from the weather! I am not convinced that this pipe will hold up
> > > in a gust as I have used high quality spreaders and they are quite
> > > strong which is creating quite a bit of force on the post, this is
> > > fine under normal conditions as the force is equal in all directions.
> > > If it gets real windy and the spreaders are blown about a unequal
> > > force will be placed on the post which could cause problems. I see
> > > that a few non UK builders have used the same method as I have but
> > > their pipe seems to have a thicker wall than mine. Mine is the 40mm
> > > waster water pipe that is readily available in many plumbing outlets
> > > in the UK but I have asked about the thinker wall pipe and they all
> > > look at me blank and say thats the only pipe they do! This must be
> > > available here in the UK, can anyone help??
> > >
> > > Many thanks in advance!
> > >
> > > 73's Ant MWØJZE
> > > Elecraft K3 #485
> > > MC0SHL DX & Contest Group
> > > www.mc0shl.com
> > > www.mw0jze.co.uk
> > > www.pmtdxgoup.co.uk
> > > Seach my log on line
> > > http://www.clublog.org/logsearch.php?log=MW0JZE&iframe=1
> <http://www.clublog.org/logsearch.php?log=MW0JZE&iframe=1>
> > > <http://www.clublog.org/logsearch.php?log=MW0JZE&iframe=1
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> > > Eat, Sleep, Dream the ultimate DX Holiday!
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>



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Hi Hexbeam lovers! I have managed to get my Hex in the air this weekend and wow well impressed, so firstly many thanks to all forum members for help and...
Anthony MW0JZE
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Jun 30, 2009
11:37 am

Ant, Great to hear that you are enjoying the antenna - well done! Can't help with the PVC question - I've always used fibreglass tubing for the CP, together...
Steve
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Jun 30, 2009
6:20 pm

Ant, I’ve searched extensively on the internet and have not been able to determine if Imperial size pipe and fittings are used in the UK or if the metric...
BG
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Jun 30, 2009
7:09 pm

Ant, Here in the states we use schedule 80 PVC electrical conduit that is grey in color. It is about two times as thick as water pvc pipe that is schedule 40. ...
Ron
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Jun 30, 2009
7:03 pm

Ant, Here in the states I use schedule 80 PVC electrical conduit that is gray in color on the 10 - 20 meter version. I use fiberglass tubing on the 30/40 meter...
Ron Mott
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Jun 30, 2009
10:36 pm

Ron, FYI... 1" Schedule 40 dimensions: OD=1.315", WALL=0.143", ID=1.029" 1" Schedule 80 dimensions: OD=1.315", WALL=0.190", ID=0.935" That is approximately a...
ko6hl@...
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Jul 1, 2009
2:23 pm

Bill, I was going on appearance only on the size. The UV resistance of the electrical schedule 80 PVC conduit is a plus. The F1LPT baseplate "appears" to be...
Ron
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Jul 1, 2009
3:32 pm

Bill, I was going on appearance only on the size. The UV resistance of the electrical schedule 80 PVC conduit is a plus. The F1LPT baseplate "appears" to be...
Ron Mott
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Jul 1, 2009
3:34 pm

Bill, Looks like F1LPT's baseplate was stainless steel from the photo caption. 73, Ron W4RDM...
w4rdm
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Jul 1, 2009
3:47 pm

Ant, I am using sch 40 PVC pipe which is not particularly well suited for a centerpost. To offset the pull from the driven elements, I added a couple of cords...
Phil
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Jul 1, 2009
4:29 am

HI all, Many thanks for all the replies. After much surfing about on-line I have found some fibreglass for Steve's suggestion, this could turn out to be the...
Anthony MW0JZE
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Jul 1, 2009
2:24 pm

Ant, I wouldn't use the hardening type foam as this could contaminate the coax cable. Also, enamel paints will also contaminate the center insulator of coax...
Phil
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Jul 1, 2009
7:29 pm

I am using a shedule 40 10 foot piece of PVC (water pipe) here on top of my tower to hold up two half wave dipoles. I live in Houston, texas where it gets...
LEE BAHR
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Jul 9, 2009
4:27 am

Hi Lee, Thanks for your sharing your experience with sched 40 pipe. I have with success tried Steve G3TXQ method. I have used a one piece length of 40mm...
Anthony MW0JZE
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Jul 10, 2009
9:46 am

Ant, Great to hear that the idea worked! Have you decided what to do with the holes at the rear - grommets, filler ? Steve G3TXQ...
Steve
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Jul 10, 2009
7:21 pm

Hi Steve, yes I forgot to say I have fitted grommets to them and filled with HOTGLUE, I will also spray it with a plasticote type arisol paint. Will stick some...
Anthony MW0JZE
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Jul 10, 2009
8:42 pm

I didn't botherr to look and see where you live, but down here (Phoenix) the Hot Melt glue would be a bad idea as it will soften and or melt in our weather....
Bill VanOrden
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Jul 14, 2009
3:54 am

Hi Bill, I am from Wales in the UK so heat is not an issue hi hi. 114f is about 44c and I can honestly say that if it was that hot here the last thing I would...
Anthony MW0JZE
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Jul 15, 2009
2:25 pm

Sure heat is an issue in Wales. The lack of it. :)...
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