i am trying to compare kants conceptualization of duty with that of hegel in the philsophy of right. could someone help me shed light on this? thanks michael,...
It seems to me that the French fashion of multiple face piercings and multiple and large tatoo sufferings are examples of a modern sado-masochistic trend in...
Paul Trejo
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Jan 20, 2003 7:32 pm
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I am going to re-start a discussion I began with Paul, Kai, Beat and Maurizio last week, on Hegel's Ethics. The first question is this. In modern debate about...
... Let me be the first to welcome you, Andy, to the Hegel Lists set up by Kai a few years ago. Your own presence on the Internet for many, many years is...
Paul Trejo
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Feb 18, 2003 7:41 am
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... The first point is that the values of a community are not static. They change and for Hegel the telos of rationality and individual freedom in community is...
Ivor Sarakinsky
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Feb 18, 2003 9:16 am
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The following excerpt comes from Agnes Heller's excellent work "Beyond Justice". Heller also comes from the Habermas/Kant tradition of Moral Philosophy, but...
No, Ivor. I think the way you have answered supports the "allegation" of the communicative ethics people, that the ethical subject (if she is Hegelian) is left...
... the ... is ... are ... the ... future, ... does ... If culture is not static, then how does it change? It changes by people reflecting on their values and...
Ivor Sarakinsky
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Feb 18, 2003 2:15 pm
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... This is my first encounter with Heller's writings, Andy, so I'll approach her paragraphs at face value today. ... This is not bad, but still not precise...
Paul Trejo
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Feb 18, 2003 8:04 pm
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I understand that Ivor and you make a good point here. Nevertheless, the "fact" of 'dynamic justice' gives no guidance to a person as to which moral norms may ...
Possibly the most important contribution of Hegel to both science and ethics is his understanding of the dynamic, historical character of ethical life. Ivor ...
... Andy, I like your emphasis on the dynamic & historical character of ethical life. I think there is something else important at work, and that is that Hegel...
Peter G. Stillman
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Feb 19, 2003 2:49 am
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Thank you, Peter. The problem still remains. In the off-line discussion, Maurizio pointed, correctly as far as it goes, to the fact that the existing society...
... Andy, Hegel's System clearly has a theological element. The theological element is not an afterthought -- it is a major aspect of the System. If I did not...
Paul Trejo
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Feb 19, 2003 7:29 am
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... is rational and which irrational? Clearly there is a struggle going on here in modernity. << *** *** *** *** 1. I believe that we need to remember one of...
Maurizio Canfora
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Feb 19, 2003 8:28 am
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... Yes, the person who challenges a moral norm is an ethical subject. How can this be justified if she challenges the moral norms of their own society? There...
Ivor Sarakinsky
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Feb 19, 2003 10:31 am
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Maurizio, Let's leave aside all talk of predicting the future. After all, what is predictable is trivial and what we really care about has to be decided in ...
Yes I agree Ivor, and in particualr of course in your point against Rawls. But I would go a wee bit further: ... but surely not only external sources, but...
... a ... while ... the ... Yes Andy, it is my turn to agree with you. The struggle to open and maintain such a dialogue is a crucial source of ethical...
Ivor Sarakinsky
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Feb 21, 2003 1:49 pm
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Ivor, you are from South Africa, aren't you. So you made this point on the basis of experience. Do you have a "hegelian" interpretation of the truth and ...
Andy ... and ... land ... change ... Yes, I am South African and not enjoying the World Cup cricket at the moment! The Ausies are looking very good as likely...
Ivor Sarakinsky
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Feb 24, 2003 10:09 am
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Ivor, my particular interest, and what led me to look at Agnes Heller, is looking for the kind of ethics which is necessary to maintain a world in which there...
There is an error in my last message - I mean mutual dependence NOT mutual independence. Freudian parapraxis !!! Regards Ivor...
Ivor Sarakinsky
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Feb 24, 2003 1:50 pm
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Andy stated; ... which ... relation ... while ... Indeed, this is exactly the problem facing so many developing and developing countries at the moment. The...
Ivor Sarakinsky
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Feb 25, 2003 7:49 am
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We are clearly a long way from the vision of the Philosophy of Right where the State and its Head are seen by the citizens as expressions of their own powers, ...
Hi people, Kai pointed me to Jon Stewart's useful book "The Hegel Myths and Legends". Following the same reasoning as with Magee's book, I have loaded the ...
Hello, Andy. ... Excellent initiative! I hope Kai will create a link to marxists.org so that Stewart's introduction can become readily available to all the...
Maurizio Canfora
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Mar 16, 2003 7:53 am
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Howard will do whatever Bush wants despite having 22% support of the population. Spain and Blair have even less popular support but they have minds of their...
Dear Listmembers, Here we have this inviting Hegel-OS (objective spirit) list, and it gets little use. Yet this topic is perhaps the most colorful of all the...
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