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hardbat · A discussion forum for topics relating to classic-style hardbat table tennis

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  • Category: Table Tennis
  • Founded: Dec 30, 2000
  • Language: English
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This discussion group is intended for players, fans, and supporters of classic hardbat table tennis, as it was played throughout the world until the 1950's. The term "hardbat" refers to the type of paddle that is used. A "normal" modern sponge-rubber paddle consists of a wood or carbon paddle covered on either side by a thin layer of soft sponge and then a smooth, sticky rubber hitting surface. This sponge-rubber surface allows a skilled player to generate large amounts of spin and speed when hitting the ball. A hardbat paddle does not have a soft layer of sponge between the wood of the paddle and the rubber hitting surface. Further, the rubber hitting surface is pimpled and is not nearly as sticky. Players who use a hardbat can only generate a small amount of spin when hitting the ball. For most players, the speed at which the ball is hit is reduced slightly when compared to a sponge-rubber paddle.

When played with hardbats, the game of table tennis is significantly different than when played with the modern "sponge rubber." Since a hardbat can only generate a small amount on spin on the ball, much of the deception of the modern sponge-rubber game is removed, and the opponent's control of the return shot is enhanced. The advantage to the server is diminished considerably without the high amounts of spin. The classic hardbat game therefore tends to have longer rallys, is much more interesting to watch to the average spectator, and is also easier to begin learning since novice players cannot as easily be deceived by tricky spin serves and strange ball bounces off of the table (also due to excessive spin).

Supporters of classic hardbat table tennis generally think that the hardbat game is more fun!

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Re: U1800 HB and U1800 Sponge events at US Closed--a Hobson's Choice
Dear Tom, The Hardbat and Sponge ratings are two different entities. What is the UHRL rating? tandy g. Are you going to the US Closed?
Posted - Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:55 am
Tandy Goldberg
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Re: U1800 HB and U1800 Sponge events at US Closed--a Hobson's Choice
I am still getting up-to-speed on hardbat. I noticed the ratings page at: http://www.hardbat.com/hbratings.html Do all the hardbat events feed results into
Posted - Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:46 pm
Tom Kluegel
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I Found a hardbat partner for doubles at Nationals
Thanks to the Las Vegas Table Tennis club(Odo)for finding me a partner for hardbat doubles. Jerry will be my partner. I'm sure you all know who he is.
Posted - Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:19 pm
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Re: U1800 HB and U1800 Sponge events at US Closed--a Hobson's Choice
... No. You can enter one or the other, but not both. All the individual rated hardbat events have that limitation. There is even the possibility (not sure
Posted - Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:37 pm
Jay Turberville
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U1800 HB and U1800 Sponge events at US Closed--a Hobson's Choice?
Yeaher, can one enter these two events and play both? They a scheduled at the SAME TIME? Yours in HB, Tandy G.
Posted - Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:14 am
Tandy Goldberg
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