Disregard my previous.  Didn't  read the later post first.
 
Chris Lutz
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________________________________
From: rgochicoa <rgochicoa@...>
To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:31:41 AM
Subject: [Hammock Camping] Re: California Hammocks

 
Follow this link for detailed instructions on how to hang a hammock without
trees (or door jams or other).

http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to/article/pitch-a-hammock-without-trees-066669/

Bob

--- In hammockcamping@ yahoogroups. com, Cara Lin Bridgman <shokulan@.. .>
wrote:
>
> The problem with door frames and posts is they only work in campgrounds
> and in 'civilized' areas. Backpacking with door frames and posts gets a
> little tricky...
>
> CL
>
> Ralph Oborn wrote:
> > Desert: not many opportunities to hammock camp, unless, like Cara said, you
> > can find rocks to attach to...
> >
> > A creative hanger will come up with a way to use a vehicle roof rack or door
> > post instead of a tree.
> > And a guyed post or xframe as the other tree.
> >
> > Ralph
>




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Has anybody been able to use a guyed post or x- frame successfully.  I tried
several DIY designs, but none that could acutally hold my wt.  Ralph, what do
you mean by x-frame, anyway?  Thanks.
 
Chris Lutz
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________________________________
From: Ralph Oborn <Ralph.oborn@...>
To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 11:20:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] Re: California Hammocks

 
Desert: not many opportunities to hammock camp, unless, like Cara said, you
can find rocks to attach to...

A creative hanger will come up with a way to use a vehicle roof rack or door
post instead of a tree.
And a guyed post or xframe as the other tree.

Ralph

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 9:54 AM, sawyer7271 <sawyer7271@yahoo. com> wrote:

> I never chimed in here, as I'm a recent convert to hammock camping, so
> haven't done much, but I've lived in San Diego all my life...
>
> Desert: not many opportunities to hammock camp, unless, like Cara said,
> you can find rocks to attach to...
>
> A good overnight trip in the fall->early spring is Cougar Canyon or Sheep's
> canyon... <2 hour drive by car (4x4 suggested) and depending on where you
> park, 1-4 miles in, with ground water available most of the year.
>
> Local mountains are a different story. There are plenty of trees on
> Palomar/Cuyamaca. Idyllwild isn't too far (2.5 hours if I recall), and if
> you're looking for a thru-hike, you can go from Palm Springs, up the tramway
> (a very cool ride - pstramway.com) and hike to Idyllwild, or go up the
> tram and spend a few days hiking around at 9000ft...
> http://www.parks. ca.gov/mediagall ery/?page_ id=636&viewtype= 7
>
> The wonderful thing about San Diego is we're 2 hours from everything:
> Desert, scrub/oak forests (Julian), Pine Forests (Mt. San Jacinto), and even
> snow (Big Bear, etc.).
>
> A place I camped many years ago that was great: Barker Valley (Mt.
> Palomar), although I don't know what it looks like since the fires... Water
> is available post-winter. Hammocking is definitely a possibility.
>
> John
> >
> > quantum72000 wrote:
> > > However, last week I moved to San Diego. In my excitement I didn't
> think very much about what the geography down here would be like. Now that
> I've arrived I am painfully aware that most of the terrain here consists of
> sage brush and windy flats.
> > >
> > > Has anyone spent time hiking down here? My first impression is that
> maybe I should swap the hammock for a microlight tent, but maybe there are
> enough scattered trees to find somewhere to put up a hammock? If anyone has
> used a hammock down in this region I would be greatly heartened.
> >
>
>
>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Chris Lutz <chrislutz25@...> wrote:

> Has anybody been able to use a guyed post or x- frame successfully.  I
> tried several DIY designs, but none that could acutally hold my wt.  Ralph,
> what do you mean by x-frame, anyway?  Thanks.
>
> Chris Lutz
>



Rick has some ideas here:

http://www.imrisk.com/hammock/singlepolehammock.htm

I'ts on my list of things to develop............

I intend to prototype with two 6 foot 2X2s crossed about 6 inches from the
top, then run a single line down to a spiral dog tie out stake.

After that a single pole with two lines running to the ground.


Ralph


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I have contemplated a pair of inverted Vs made from 2x4s. One inverted V
would be placed at each end of the hammock stand on a beach. The Vs
prevent collapse to the side. To support the ends, it should be possible
to bury a piece of plywood - or better yet a small "parachute" of 1.9 oz
ripstop - of sufficient size as an anchor at each end. I have not tested
this.

Risk

Ralph Oborn wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Chris Lutz <chrislutz25@...> wrote:
>
>> Has anybody been able to use a guyed post or x- frame successfully.  I
>> tried several DIY designs, but none that could acutally hold my wt.  Ralph,
>> what do you mean by x-frame, anyway?  Thanks.
>>
>> Chris Lutz
>>
>
>
>
> Rick has some ideas here:
>
> http://www.imrisk.com/hammock/singlepolehammock.htm
>
> I'ts on my list of things to develop............
>
> I intend to prototype with two 6 foot 2X2s crossed about 6 inches from the
> top, then run a single line down to a spiral dog tie out stake.
>
> After that a single pole with two lines running to the ground.
>
>
> Ralph
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

Might take a look at Byer's Madera stand.

http://www.byerofmaine.com/amaz-acces_madera.htm

Chuck

Rick <ra1@...> wrote:
> I have contemplated a pair of inverted Vs made from 2x4s.
One inverted V
> ...

$5 for two sticks??!! interesting design, but be aware of the geometry of
hammock tension. the anchor better be well screwed into the ground. if you use
stakes, they better be hefty. (see my circus stake pic
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hammockcamping/photos/album/185462806/pic/list> )
there could be several hundred lbs of stress on it. likewise for that flimsy
railing on the RV it's tied to.
bill keiser

> Might take a look at Byer's Madera stand.
> http://www.byerofmaine.com/amaz-acces_madera.htm
> Chuck

> Rick <ra1@> wrote:
> > I have contemplated a pair of inverted Vs made from 2x4s.
>> One inverted V

>  ... interesting design, but be aware of the geometry of hammock tension. the
anchor better be well screwed into the ...

Indeed. It's well understood and explained in several locations around the net.
:)

Cheers!
Chuck

--- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "Sandy" <sandykayak@...> wrote:
>
>
> I'm always looking for the perfect hammock/tent combo.  Is there such a thing?
It's easy to take a hammock and a tent when kayak camping.
>
> sandy in miami
>
> --- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "quantum72000" <quantum7@> wrote:
> >
> > I recently saw a friend's camping hammock and immediately went out and
bought one. I lived in Seattle, so a hammock seemed perfect for the kind of
backpacking I was used toâ€"dense forests and mountain streams.
> >
> > However, last week I moved to San Diego. In my excitement I didn't think
very much about what the geography down here would be like. Now that I've
arrived I am painfully aware that most of the terrain here consists of sage
brush and windy flats.
> >
> > Has anyone spent time hiking down here? My first impression is that maybe I
should swap the hammock for a microlight tent, but maybe there are enough
scattered trees to find somewhere to put up a hammock? If anyone has used a
hammock down in this region I would be greatly heartened.
> >
> > -Spencer
> >
>
I just purchased the Lawson tent/hammock and waiting for it to come in the mail.
Hope it works, looks cool in the pics. Google it.

http://www.cabelas.com/p-0057411518634a.shtml

I will let you know.
Patty

Oops, I gave the wrong website.  There is no "s" at the end.  The site for the
jungle hammocks is www.junglehammock.com

--- On Mon, 10/5/09, pattysueanderson <pattysueanderson@...> wrote:

From: pattysueanderson <pattysueanderson@...>
Subject: [Hammock Camping] Re: Tent/hammocks (was California Hammocks
To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, October 5, 2009, 10:48 AM






 









--- In hammockcamping@ yahoogroups. com, "Sandy" <sandykayak@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> I'm always looking for the perfect hammock/tent combo.  Is there such a thing?
It's easy to take a hammock and a tent when kayak camping.

>

> sandy in miami

>

> --- In hammockcamping@ yahoogroups. com, "quantum72000" <quantum7@> wrote:

> >

> > I recently saw a friend's camping hammock and immediately went out and
bought one. I lived in Seattle, so a hammock seemed perfect for the kind of
backpacking I was used toâ€"dense forests and mountain streams.

> >

> > However, last week I moved to San Diego. In my excitement I didn't think
very much about what the geography down here would be like. Now that I've
arrived I am painfully aware that most of the terrain here consists of sage
brush and windy flats.

> >

> > Has anyone spent time hiking down here? My first impression is that maybe I
should swap the hammock for a microlight tent, but maybe there are enough
scattered trees to find somewhere to put up a hammock? If anyone has used a
hammock down in this region I would be greatly heartened.

> >

> > -Spencer

> >

>

I just purchased the Lawson tent/hammock and waiting for it to come in the mail.
Hope it works, looks cool in the pics. Google it.



http://www.cabelas. com/p-0057411518 634a.shtml



I will let you know.

Patty































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I know there's a lot of different opinion, but mine is that to really have the
benefits of a tent with your hammock, I think the NX 150 Jungle Hammock, at
www.junglehammocks.com is easily the best way to go (though it is also
unfortunately quite expensive).

If you consider the cost of making lots of modifications, tarps, and under
insulation to other brands, then the jungle hammock brand is not all that much
more expensive, and you'd have a very difficult time trying to get all the
features let alone quality that it offers by making your own modifications,
without adding a lot more of weight than the weight of the whole set up of the
Clark Jungle Hammock brand.  I hate the high price, but I've tried other
systems, and various modifications, and I'm convinced that the junglehammock
systems are the best way to go, all things considered.

John

--- On Mon, 10/5/09, pattysueanderson <pattysueanderson@...> wrote:

From: pattysueanderson <pattysueanderson@...>
Subject: [Hammock Camping] Re: Tent/hammocks (was California Hammocks
To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, October 5, 2009, 10:48 AM






 









--- In hammockcamping@ yahoogroups. com, "Sandy" <sandykayak@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> I'm always looking for the perfect hammock/tent combo.  Is there such a thing?
It's easy to take a hammock and a tent when kayak camping.

>

> sandy in miami

>

> --- In hammockcamping@ yahoogroups. com, "quantum72000" <quantum7@> wrote:

> >

> > I recently saw a friend's camping hammock and immediately went out and
bought one. I lived in Seattle, so a hammock seemed perfect for the kind of
backpacking I was used toâ€"dense forests and mountain streams.

> >

> > However, last week I moved to San Diego. In my excitement I didn't think
very much about what the geography down here would be like. Now that I've
arrived I am painfully aware that most of the terrain here consists of sage
brush and windy flats.

> >

> > Has anyone spent time hiking down here? My first impression is that maybe I
should swap the hammock for a microlight tent, but maybe there are enough
scattered trees to find somewhere to put up a hammock? If anyone has used a
hammock down in this region I would be greatly heartened.

> >

> > -Spencer

> >

>

I just purchased the Lawson tent/hammock and waiting for it to come in the mail.
Hope it works, looks cool in the pics. Google it.



http://www.cabelas. com/p-0057411518 634a.shtml



I will let you know.

Patty































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Personally, I love the North American model of the Clark Jungle Hammock...and in
camou! However, my reason, like many, is that I simply can't afford to shell out
that amount of money, so I've got a commercial close with my Claytor (has a
double bottom to use with pads) and I've gotten into sewing up hammocks myself.
There's relatively no waste because I use just a rectangle of 1.9 oz. ripstop
nylon and no-see-um mesh netting. If I wanted pockets on the bottom I'd quite
easily sew it on and if I wanted a double bottom I'd just sew two laters of 1.9
oz ripstop nylon instead of just the one with perhaps a hem and a little velcro
on one side to hold that pad pocket shut. This would cost me substantially less
than a Clark N. American and still give me what I want.

As to tarp, I much prefer my Jacks-r-better hammock hut for most activities for
it's potential total privacy or my Speer Winter Tarp for general use. Then on
nice sunny days where I just need to blend and have shade, but rain isn't really
threatening I can bring out my Clark diamond tarp (it poured really bad here
yesterday and that tarp leaked---more like absorbed and dispersed the raindrops
into the nylon taffeta and when there was just too much rain in one spot the
result would be a drop to the interior!). Though, I'm going to get me some
1.1oz. silnylon and sew up a new super small, lightweight diamond tarp for
summer use that should be much better than the nylon taffeta and still cheaper
than the Clark.

I can set any of my hammocks up as a tent. My home-made version was
intentionally built with a 'tent mode' capability in mind, but the only thing
that really changed was how I rigged the suspension up for the netting, the
bottom of the hammock just becomes my ground tarp, my pad would rest inside with
me, under my sleeping bag, and all the lines, as well as the tarp itself, are
held up with my two trekking poles. I can do this with my Claytor Jungle Hammock
as well, but I do prefer my home-made to even the Claytor as I've made mine a
little wider and a little longer so I can be more comfy when I rest diagonally
on it. Oh, but the N. American is such eye candy!




   ----- Original Message -----
   From: John Coy
   To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 10:17 AM
   Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] Re: Tent/hammocks (was California Hammocks


     I know there's a lot of different opinion, but mine is that to really have
the benefits of a tent with your hammock, I think the NX 150 Jungle Hammock, at
www.junglehammocks.com is easily the best way to go (though it is also
unfortunately quite expensive).

   If you consider the cost of making lots of modifications, tarps, and under
insulation to other brands, then the jungle hammock brand is not all that much
more expensive, and you'd have a very difficult time trying to get all the
features let alone quality that it offers by making your own modifications,
without adding a lot more of weight than the weight of the whole set up of the
Clark Jungle Hammock brand.  I hate the high price, but I've tried other
systems, and various modifications, and I'm convinced that the junglehammock
systems are the best way to go, all things considered.

   John

   --- On Mon, 10/5/09, pattysueanderson <pattysueanderson@...> wrote:

   From: pattysueanderson <pattysueanderson@...>
   Subject: [Hammock Camping] Re: Tent/hammocks (was California Hammocks
   To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
   Date: Monday, October 5, 2009, 10:48 AM



   --- In hammockcamping@ yahoogroups. com, "Sandy" <sandykayak@ ...> wrote:

   >

   >

   > I'm always looking for the perfect hammock/tent combo. Is there such a
thing? It's easy to take a hammock and a tent when kayak camping.

   >

   > sandy in miami

   >

   > --- In hammockcamping@ yahoogroups. com, "quantum72000" <quantum7@> wrote:

   > >

   > > I recently saw a friend's camping hammock and immediately went out and
bought one. I lived in Seattle, so a hammock seemed perfect for the kind of
backpacking I was used toâ€"dense forests and mountain streams.

   > >

   > > However, last week I moved to San Diego. In my excitement I didn't think
very much about what the geography down here would be like. Now that I've
arrived I am painfully aware that most of the terrain here consists of sage
brush and windy flats.

   > >

   > > Has anyone spent time hiking down here? My first impression is that maybe
I should swap the hammock for a microlight tent, but maybe there are enough
scattered trees to find somewhere to put up a hammock? If anyone has used a
hammock down in this region I would be greatly heartened.

   > >

   > > -Spencer

   > >

   >

   I just purchased the Lawson tent/hammock and waiting for it to come in the
mail. Hope it works, looks cool in the pics. Google it.

   http://www.cabelas. com/p-0057411518 634a.shtml

   I will let you know.

   Patty











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Kayank users and hammock hikers in the treeless dessert.

For those that want/need a pitchable tent and a hammock this one might be worth
looking at.
The websight does not state a price and it's company base is in Denmark.  Worth
a look.
Rogene

http://nordictenthammock.com/index.htm

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Looks interesting! Let me know how you like it when you get it.
Carey

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Rogene Calkins <ccwayah@...> wrote:

>
>
>
> Kayank users and hammock hikers in the treeless dessert.
>
> For those that want/need a pitchable tent and a hammock this one might be
> worth looking at.
> The websight does not state a price and it's company base is in Denmark.
> Worth a look.
> Rogene
>
> http://nordictenthammock.com/index.htm
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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I have a hennesy way before I came acorss this tonight
so pretty set in my ways but thought somone might like to investiage this
system of hanging
since some of the Kayak hangers and dessert folks ahve been asking about
hammocks and tents.

Rogene
.




----- Original Message -----
From: "Carey Parks" <Carey@...>
To: <hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] Nordic hammock tent


> Looks interesting! Let me know how you like it when you get it.
> Carey
>
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Rogene Calkins <ccwayah@...>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kayank users and hammock hikers in the treeless dessert.
>>
>> For those that want/need a pitchable tent and a hammock this one might be
>> worth looking at.
>> The websight does not state a price and it's company base is in Denmark.
>> Worth a look.
>> Rogene
>>
>> http://nordictenthammock.com/index.htm
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Oh and BTW I like the idea of the  two triangle shaped  storage spots.
Sounds interting to me but a bit teh whole hamock seams heavy.

Rogene


----- Original Message -----
From: "Carey Parks" <Carey@...>
To: <hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] Nordic hammock tent


> Looks interesting! Let me know how you like it when you get it.
> Carey
>
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Rogene Calkins <ccwayah@...>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kayank users and hammock hikers in the treeless dessert.
>>
>> For those that want/need a pitchable tent and a hammock this one might be
>> worth looking at.
>> The websight does not state a price and it's company base is in Denmark.
>> Worth a look.
>> Rogene
>>
>> http://nordictenthammock.com/index.htm
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

I've managed to rig something up with my Hennessy the couple times I've had
to pitch it on the ground just using what I found at the time. Once you get
used to using the hammock, you don't need as "pristine" a location as I
thought when just starting out. Just so long as there's someplace to tie the
ends.

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Rogene Calkins <ccwayah@...> wrote:

>
>
> I have a hennesy way before I came acorss this tonight
> so pretty set in my ways but thought somone might like to investiage this
> system of hanging
> since some of the Kayak hangers and dessert folks ahve been asking about
> hammocks and tents.
>
> Rogene
> .
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carey Parks" <Carey@... <Carey%40jimparksfamily.com>
> >
> To: <hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com <hammockcamping%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] Nordic hammock tent
>
> > Looks interesting! Let me know how you like it when you get it.
> > Carey
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Rogene Calkins
<ccwayah@...<ccwayah%40charter.net>>
>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Kayank users and hammock hikers in the treeless dessert.
> >>
> >> For those that want/need a pitchable tent and a hammock this one might
> be
> >> worth looking at.
> >> The websight does not state a price and it's company base is in Denmark.
> >> Worth a look.
> >> Rogene
> >>
> >> http://nordictenthammock.com/index.htm
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
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> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>


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Has anyone used a yoga mat for under pad insulation instead of normal camping
pad (CCF).  It would seem to be pretty dense, but light and not take up a lot of
room.  There's not too much thickness for insulation, but the density could be a
plus.  Just wondering if anyone has tried it.  Thinking about it this weekend in
N. VA.
 
Chris Lutz
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________________________________
From: Carey Parks <Carey@...>
To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 9:06:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] Nordic hammock tent

 
I've managed to rig something up with my Hennessy the couple times I've had
to pitch it on the ground just using what I found at the time. Once you get
used to using the hammock, you don't need as "pristine" a location as I
thought when just starting out. Just so long as there's someplace to tie the
ends.

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Rogene Calkins <ccwayah@charter. net> wrote:

>
>
> I have a hennesy way before I came acorss this tonight
> so pretty set in my ways but thought somone might like to investiage this
> system of hanging
> since some of the Kayak hangers and dessert folks ahve been asking about
> hammocks and tents.
>
> Rogene
> .
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carey Parks" <Carey@jimparksfamil y.com <Carey%40jimparksfa mily.com>
> >
> To: <hammockcamping@ yahoogroups. com <hammockcamping% 40yahoogroups. com>>
> Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] Nordic hammock tent
>
> > Looks interesting! Let me know how you like it when you get it.
> > Carey
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Rogene Calkins <ccwayah@charter.
net<ccwayah%40charter. net>>
>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Kayank users and hammock hikers in the treeless dessert.
> >>
> >> For those that want/need a pitchable tent and a hammock this one might
> be
> >> worth looking at.
> >> The websight does not state a price and it's company base is in Denmark.
> >> Worth a look.
> >> Rogene
> >>
> >> http://nordictenthammock.com/index.htm
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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I found the thinner mats buckled and creased too easily in a hammock?

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On 6 Oct 2009, at 18:26, Chris Lutz <chrislutz25@...> wrote:

> Has anyone used a yoga mat for under pad insulation instead of
> normal camping pad (CCF).  It would seem to be pretty dense, but
> light and not take up a lot of room.  There's not too much thickness
> for insulation, but the density could be a plus.  Just wondering if
> anyone has tried it.  Thinking about it this weekend in N. VA.
>
> Chris Lutz
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> From: Carey Parks <Carey@...>
> To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 9:06:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] Nordic hammock tent
>
>
> I've managed to rig something up with my Hennessy the couple times
> I've had
> to pitch it on the ground just using what I found at the time. Once
> you get
> used to using the hammock, you don't need as "pristine" a location
> as I
> thought when just starting out. Just so long as there's someplace to
> tie the
> ends.
>
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Rogene Calkins <ccwayah@charter.
> net> wrote:
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> >
> >
> > I have a hennesy way before I came acorss this tonight
> > so pretty set in my ways but thought somone might like to
> investiage this
> > system of hanging
> > since some of the Kayak hangers and dessert folks ahve been asking
> about
> > hammocks and tents.
> >
> > Rogene
> > .
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Carey Parks" <Carey@jimparksfamil y.com <Carey%40jimparksfa mily.com
> >
> > >
> > To: <hammockcamping@ yahoogroups. com <hammockcamping%
> 40yahoogroups. com>>
> > Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] Nordic hammock tent
> >
> > > Looks interesting! Let me know how you like it when you get it.
> > > Carey
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Rogene Calkins <ccwayah@charter.
> net<ccwayah%40charter. net>>
> >
> > > wrote:
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> > >>
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> > >> Kayank users and hammock hikers in the treeless dessert.
> > >>
> > >> For those that want/need a pitchable tent and a hammock this
> one might
> > be
> > >> worth looking at.
> > >> The websight does not state a price and it's company base is in
> Denmark.
> > >> Worth a look.
> > >> Rogene
> > >>
> > >> http://nordictenthammock.com/index.htm
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sand/snow anchors:  http://www.rei.com/product/725165#

sandy in miami

--- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, Rick <ra1@...> wrote:
>
> I have contemplated a pair of inverted Vs made from 2x4s. One inverted V
> would be placed at each end of the hammock stand on a beach. The Vs
> prevent collapse to the side. To support the ends, it should be possible
> to bury a piece of plywood - or better yet a small "parachute" of 1.9 oz
> ripstop - of sufficient size as an anchor at each end. I have not tested
> this.
>
> Risk
>
> Ralph Oborn wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Chris Lutz <chrislutz25@...> wrote:
> >
> >> Has anybody been able to use a guyed post or x- frame successfully.  I
> >> tried several DIY designs, but none that could acutally hold my wt.  Ralph,
> >> what do you mean by x-frame, anyway?  Thanks.
> >>
> >> Chris Lutz
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick has some ideas here:
> >
> > http://www.imrisk.com/hammock/singlepolehammock.htm
> >
> > I'ts on my list of things to develop............
> >
> > I intend to prototype with two 6 foot 2X2s crossed about 6 inches from the
> > top, then run a single line down to a spiral dog tie out stake.
> >
> > After that a single pole with two lines running to the ground.
> >
> >
> > Ralph
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nice...but don't see any no see 'um netting...if anyone finds price and
availability, pl post

sandy in miami

--- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "Rogene Calkins" <ccwayah@...> wrote:
>
>
> Kayank users and hammock hikers in the treeless dessert.
>
> For those that want/need a pitchable tent and a hammock this one might be
worth looking at.
> The websight does not state a price and it's company base is in Denmark. 
Worth a look.
> Rogene
>
> http://nordictenthammock.com/index.htm
>
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>

You need to look over the sight as they do mention
no seeum netting ? as an add on.

Rogene


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandy" <sandykayak@...>
To: <hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:40 PM
Subject: [Hammock Camping] Re: Nordic hammock tent


>
> nice...but don't see any no see 'um netting...if anyone finds price and
> availability, pl post
>
> sandy in miami
>
> --- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "Rogene Calkins" <ccwayah@...>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Kayank users and hammock hikers in the treeless dessert.
>>
>> For those that want/need a pitchable tent and a hammock this one might be
>> worth looking at.
>> The websight does not state a price and it's company base is in Denmark.
>> Worth a look.
>> Rogene
>>
>> http://nordictenthammock.com/index.htm
>>
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>>
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insulation is by trapped pockets of air. while there is a fine balance, if the
air pockets are smaller ( more dense ) there is more material to conduct heat
(or cold). just wanted to make sure you thought of that. any way, happy
hammocking.


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HI CHRIS !!!! no I haven't.what I use is "mini-cell foam" 1 1/2" padding,cut
from a sheet[4x8']that I got at a foam store[hear in burlington nc].I use
the stuff for  kayak bulkheads,seats&thigh braces.the stuff is "dense",but
lite.I hope this will both help and save ya money!!!! later gumby/zenkayaker
enjoy your days&remember your nites, move or die ,the only
easyday,was,yesterday


On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Chris Lutz <chrislutz25@...> wrote:

>
>
> Has anyone used a yoga mat for under pad insulation instead of normal
> camping pad (CCF).  It would seem to be pretty dense, but light and not take
> up a lot of room.  There's not too much thickness for insulation, but the
> density could be a plus.  Just wondering if anyone has tried it.  Thinking
> about it this weekend in N. VA.
>
> Chris Lutz
> Sign up for online personal training
> www.spartafitnesstraining.com
>
> ________________________________
> From: Carey Parks <Carey@... <Carey%40jimparksfamily.com>>
> To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com <hammockcamping%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 9:06:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] Nordic hammock tent
>
>
> I've managed to rig something up with my Hennessy the couple times I've had
> to pitch it on the ground just using what I found at the time. Once you get
> used to using the hammock, you don't need as "pristine" a location as I
> thought when just starting out. Just so long as there's someplace to tie
> the
> ends.
>
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Rogene Calkins <ccwayah@charter. net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I have a hennesy way before I came acorss this tonight
> > so pretty set in my ways but thought somone might like to investiage this
> > system of hanging
> > since some of the Kayak hangers and dessert folks ahve been asking about
> > hammocks and tents.
> >
> > Rogene
> > .
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Carey Parks" <Carey@jimparksfamil y.com <Carey%40jimparksfa
> mily.com>
> > >
> > To: <hammockcamping@ yahoogroups. com <hammockcamping% 40yahoogroups.
> com>>
> > Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] Nordic hammock tent
> >
> > > Looks interesting! Let me know how you like it when you get it.
> > > Carey
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Rogene Calkins
<ccwayah@...<ccwayah%40charter. net>>
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Kayank users and hammock hikers in the treeless dessert.
> > >>
> > >> For those that want/need a pitchable tent and a hammock this one might
> > be
> > >> worth looking at.
> > >> The websight does not state a price and it's company base is in
> Denmark.
> > >> Worth a look.
> > >> Rogene
> > >>
> > >> http://nordictenthammock.com/index.htm
> > >>
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Here's a video of a guy using an inverted Vee.  He's prototyping an anchoring
method.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk8YnPJXtG4

Chuck

That looked pretty cool!


   Rick



On Oct 10, 2009, at 8:08, "ChuckB" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

> Here's a video of a guy using an inverted Vee.  He's prototyping an
> anchoring method.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk8YnPJXtG4
>
> Chuck
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Anyone know if the measurements in the book are correct for building a Speer
Hammock? the measurements are in square yards, and that seems like an awfully
lot of fabric.

Thanks,

Shane

Followed the directions to the "T". Everything has worked out well so far for
three that we're making.

Things get expensive when you get to making the tarp with silnylon. My boys and
I have loved using them.

Dave
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: "Shane" <vsf_public@...>
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:59:44
To: <hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Hammock Camping] Ed Speer book

Anyone know if the measurements in the book are correct for building a Speer
Hammock? the measurements are in square yards, and that seems like an awfully
lot of fabric.

Thanks,

Shane




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10 ft long and 60 inches wide is what I always used. I got the
original measurement from Ed. Some later hammocks were made 50 in wide
to save weight.

   Rick



On Oct 12, 2009, at 18:59, "Shane" <vsf_public@...> wrote:

> Anyone know if the measurements in the book are correct for building
> a Speer Hammock? the measurements are in square yards, and that
> seems like an awfully lot of fabric.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Shane
>
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I'm 6' tall, and used 3 yards of material for mine.  Instead of tying a knot at
the end, I whipped the ends, which saves some length. (Details on the two
websites below...)

Checkout the make your own gear links at:  imrisk.com and www.tothewoods.net
There are some great tips and DIY projects there....

If you don't like sewing silnylon, you can always get a Tyvek tarp.  They're
cheap (around $15 on ebay) and function reasonably well.  (just run it though
the washing machine for 1/2 hour or so...)  The best part is, you can start big
(8x? or 9x?) then cut it all you want until you get the size and shape you
really want... (I sewed the speer tarp from the book, but I'm beginning to think
I like my 8x8 tyvek better since I can set it up with 2 stakes...)

Tyvek doesn't pack as small as Sil, and it weighs a bit more, but it's a LOT
less work than sewing a tarp, or re-sewing a tarp.

If I were to do it again, I'd most likely make a catenary cut tarp...

Best of luck!

John

--- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, dp_stickney@... wrote:
>
> Followed the directions to the "T". Everything has worked out well so far for
three that we're making.
>
> Things get expensive when you get to making the tarp with silnylon. My boys
and I have loved using them.
>
> Dave
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Shane" <vsf_public@...>
> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:59:44
> To: <hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Hammock Camping] Ed Speer book
>
> Anyone know if the measurements in the book are correct for building a Speer
Hammock? the measurements are in square yards, and that seems like an awfully
lot of fabric.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Shane
>
>
>
>
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>

I have recently revisited Dave Womble's excellent files on the forces on hammock
suspensions and ridgelines here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hammockcamping/files/Youngblood%27s/

I like to hang my dog's hammock under mine, so I tighten the support ropes to
raise my hammock and make room for his.  This greatly increases the forces on
the support ropes and structural ridgeline. (Both hammocks hang from the same
points at the ends of the ridgeline.) Add in the extra 70 lb. that the dog
weighs for more force.  Then consider the occasional need to use trees that are
farther apart.  My 7/64" amsteel support ropes are cut to handle tree-to-tree
separations of up to 25 ft., but I've only been able to use that use that a
couple of times, and the tension is scary. (I usually try to do this across a
hollow, so I have the benefit of extra height, hence more sag.  My question is
this: has anyone devised a method of attaching tree huggers higher, possibly
using hiking poles or forked sticks?  I'd like to be able to easily place my
tree huggers about two or three feet higher than I can reach (and retrieve them
easily the next morning). I use a hammock because about 25 years ago I lost my
ability to sleep soundly on roots and rocks.  Somewhere along the way my
enthusiasm for shinnying up trees with a strap in my mouth went away, too.