I also have a HH and have found it to be dry during major storms. I would
suggest getting the larger rain fly. This rain fly is nice to throw up when
you get caught in a major storm while on the trail. There is an acquired
manual dexterity needed to get out of the HH. Gary


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scrool down to the second post for a pic of a sure fire bike lock...

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=295834

not really hammocking relavent but with all the talk of tree damage by
hammockers I thought this might be interesting.  apears a tree can
overcome quite a bit of stess.  I can relate as my dad had an old hay
rake that had a tree grow through the steel rims.  and the past few
days he has been cleaning of an old fence row and has had to cut the
web wire off a lot of trees. Now off to help him and burn a stump of my
own.

Coy Boy

I'd say that bike's going to stay there for a while, wouldn't you?

CL

Coy wrote:
> scrool down to the second post for a pic of a sure fire bike lock...
>
> http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=295834
>
> not really hammocking relavent but with all the talk of tree damage by
> hammockers I thought this might be interesting.  apears a tree can
> overcome quite a bit of stess.  I can relate as my dad had an old hay
> rake that had a tree grow through the steel rims.  and the past few
> days he has been cleaning of an old fence row and has had to cut the
> web wire off a lot of trees. Now off to help him and burn a stump of my
> own.
>
> Coy Boy
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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On 5/8/07, Coy <starnescr@...> wrote:
> PS garizon, I saw your pic of the blue bag.  If you could get one (a
> closeup) of the hood slit cut it would be great.  I may try that on
> my Volt.

Here are the (unsorted) pics from last night.
I made some close-ups of both ends.

gerzson

And the link ... :)
http://picasaweb.google.com/mircea.pop.ro/PadureDeSalcamiSagul09052007?authkey=F\
HgI1X1CmPo

gerzson


On 5/9/07, gerzson <gerzson@...> wrote:
> On 5/8/07, Coy <starnescr@...> wrote:
> > PS garizon, I saw your pic of the blue bag.  If you could get one (a
> > closeup) of the hood slit cut it would be great.  I may try that on
> > my Volt.
>
> Here are the (unsorted) pics from last night.
> I made some close-ups of both ends.
>
> gerzson
>

I've put up a few pictures of Lake Lucerne. There's not a hammock on
anyone of them, so I put them in the photo section of BackpackingTalk.
http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackingTalk/photos/browse/4bf0

I hope the link works for everyone.

André

--- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "C C Wayah" <ccwayah@...> wrote:
>
>
> André
> Please
> Post pictures of your hike.
> It's been 40 years since I've seen Lake Lucern in person and post
pictures
> of your other hike.
>
> Rogene
>

Flights to Vegas are $344-380 round trip OUt door
retailer show is Aug 9-12. We'd go for a 1.5 days.
then continue our tour.

Shall we go?

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i didn't see anything about this on the speer hammock site so i was
wondering about washing the older version (sewn through construction)
top blanket.
  i washed it w/ woolite, gentle cycle, but after running it through
the dryer on low heat w/ a couple other things, it's still a little
heavy w/ moister & the down is still clumping.
  i took it out & fluffed it around in my hands (trying not to be to
rough though) & put it back in the dryer on medium heat.
  i'll keep an eye on it... don't want it to get hotter than needed.
BTW ed... i'm loving the pea pod & top blanket! i've been using them
at home... especially the top blanket.  just right!   thanks.   ..tim

Put it in the dryer with a couple of tennis balls.

TV

or a clean tennis shoe - you want something with a little weight that will break
up those clumps as the dryer turns. A

-----Original Message-----
From: redroach@...
To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 11 May 2007 11:30 PM
Subject: RE: [Hammock Camping] washing down quilt,etc


Put it in the dryer with a couple of tennis balls.

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Glad you like the PeaPod & Top Blanket Tim.  You're doing fine with the
drying-it just takes a long time to get all of the moisture out.  That down
should be very fluffy when you're done.  See ya next weekend end at
TrailDays07..ed



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From: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of tim garner
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 10:20 PM
To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SPAM] [Hammock Camping] washing down quilt,etc



i didn't see anything about this on the speer hammock site so i was
wondering about washing the older version (sewn through construction)
top blanket.
i washed it w/ woolite, gentle cycle, but after running it through
the dryer on low heat w/ a couple other things, it's still a little
heavy w/ moister & the down is still clumping.
i took it out & fluffed it around in my hands (trying not to be to
rough though) & put it back in the dryer on medium heat.
i'll keep an eye on it... don't want it to get hotter than needed.
BTW ed... i'm loving the pea pod & top blanket! i've been using them
at home... especially the top blanket. just right! thanks. ..tim





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a "clean" tennis shoe??? what's that???<g>
     OK, i've herd that (& done that) many times in the past. but in recent times
i herd somewhere not to put stuff like that in the dryer because it's hard on
the baffles & seams.
      but both here & on the jacks r better website, it's still recommended, so i
guess who ever said not to put stuff in the dryer to help break up the clumps
was just being overly cautious.
      i've never seen evidence of a problem w/ the seems.  thanks.    ...tim

karens62@... wrote:
   or a clean tennis shoe - you want something with a little weight that will
break up those clumps as the dryer turns. A

-----Original Message-----
From: redroach@...
To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 11 May 2007 11:30 PM
Subject: RE: [Hammock Camping] washing down quilt,etc


Put it in the dryer with a couple of tennis balls.

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yep, i ran it through 2 cycles in the dryer & it seemed that it was dry (or
very close to dry), but when i put it on me in the hammock i could feel a slight
dampness.
       but i decided to let my body heat dry it through the night.
   i've shone the pea pod & top blanket to several people that came over to the
house. it's a truly versatile system.   looking forward to trail days.  ..tim

Ed Speer <ed@...> wrote:
   Glad you like the PeaPod & Top Blanket Tim. You're doing fine with the
drying-it just takes a long time to get all of the moisture out. That down
should be very fluffy when you're done. See ya next weekend end at
TrailDays07..ed



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From: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of tim garner
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 10:20 PM
To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SPAM] [Hammock Camping] washing down quilt,etc



i didn't see anything about this on the speer hammock site so i was
wondering about washing the older version (sewn through construction)
top blanket.
i washed it w/ woolite, gentle cycle, but after running it through
the dryer on low heat w/ a couple other things, it's still a little
heavy w/ moister & the down is still clumping.
i took it out & fluffed it around in my hands (trying not to be to
rough though) & put it back in the dryer on medium heat.
i'll keep an eye on it... don't want it to get hotter than needed.
BTW ed... i'm loving the pea pod & top blanket! i've been using them
at home... especially the top blanket. just right! thanks. ..tim





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"Instructions for washing a down bag..
First buy a 12 pack, you're going to need it.
1. FILL your bath tub with water and down soap, warm water please. Drink
a beer.
2. Take your bag stuffed in it's small stuff sack submerge the whole
thing and unstuff it under water.  Allow it to (gasp) soak up the
water/soap. Let it sit.  Work it around etc for like 15 min. Drink a beer.
3. Drain the water from the tube refill with clean warm water and make
sure that you work the clean water into the bag to get all the soap out
of the feathers. Drain again, and drink another beer
4. Repeat step three, drinka' beer
5. Repeat step three, drinka' nother
6. "MUSH" all the water out of the bag and let it sit in the tub for a
while to drain as much excess as you can. This a two beer time period,
watch TV do something.
7. Call a buddy, have him/her come over (they are going to drive you to
the laundry mat, you're drunk). Give them a beer and have another your
self.  You have 3 beers left and $20 for a huge front loading dryer, and
a two pack of tennis balls
8. Take the bag, balls, and beer to the laundry mat. Throw the bag and
balls into the FRONT loading dryer and turn the heat as low as possible.
Sit and watch it spin and drink the remainder of your 12 pack, this is
at least a 3 beer time period, if not more. Occasionally check to make
sure that the down "clumps" are breakin' up and drying up good.  Now the
bag is clean and hopefully dry, let it air dry over night and you should
be good to go in the morning. Well at least the bag will, you'll have a
hang over "

Accurate instructions with a little humor.

Dick Matthews

karens62@... wrote:

> or a clean tennis shoe - you want something with a little weight that
> will break up those clumps as the dryer turns. A
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: redroach@... <mailto:redroach%40gmail.com>
> To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:hammockcamping%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Fri, 11 May 2007 11:30 PM
> Subject: RE: [Hammock Camping] washing down quilt,etc
>
> Put it in the dryer with a couple of tennis balls.
>
> TV
>
>



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hehe... I think I'm going to like it here a lot!  Thanks for letting me join
your great group here!

Go Brian Canter (PBR) !!!!!  Go Jennifer Santiago (WCL) !!!!!!  wooohoooo
!!!!!
-------Original Message-------

From: tim garner
Date: 5/12/2007 5:23:16 AM
To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] washing down quilt,etc

a "clean" tennis shoe??? what's that???<g>
.



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welcome to the group melissa.
   yep, we have fun while we finetune the great sport of hammocking<g>.  ...tim

Melissa <mislilmis@...> wrote:
   hehe... I think I'm going to like it here a lot! Thanks for letting me join
your great group here!

Go Brian Canter (PBR) !!!!! Go Jennifer Santiago (WCL) !!!!!! wooohoooo
!!!!!
-------Original Message-------

From: tim garner
Date: 5/12/2007 5:23:16 AM
To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] washing down quilt,etc

a "clean" tennis shoe??? what's that???
.



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Great instructions, reading between the suds. (Hey, that's an idea! Can you
substitute books for beer?  How many chapters = one 12 oz.?)
David

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good idea david.  i don't drink, so reading between steps would work for me<g>.
...tim

David Elliott <delliott78@...> wrote:  Great instructions, reading
between the suds. (Hey, that's an idea! Can you
substitute books for beer? How many chapters = one 12 oz.?)
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We hope everyone is planning to attend Trail Days next weekend in
Damascus, VA.  As usual, Speer Hammocks will have a booth in the
vendor area--drop by & say 'Hi' & receive a special appreciation
gift!  Karen, Tim & I are looking forward to meeting everyone.  Yes,
Tim, our own 'Slowhike', will be helping at the booth this year.

Speer Hammocks will be introducing several new products, including
our improved hammock, 8x10 cat tarp, & the much-anticipated SnugFit
UnderQuilt!  These items are so new, they're not even on the website
yet!  Those lucky enough to make it to Trail Days will be the first
to see and try our newest products!

In addition, all hammocks & down items will be 10% during the show!
OK, to be fair to all of our valued customers, including those who
can't make Trail Days next weekend, the 10% off all hammocks and down
items, starts at 9am tomorrow (Monday May 11, 2007) and runs til 5pm
May 31, 2007!

Come join us in celebrating the Appalachian Trail in Damascus next
weekend--we'll be looking for ya!

....Ed

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yep, i'm excited about helping out at the speer hammocks booth this year!
   thursday night i'll probably be like that kid in the disney commercial...
        "i'm too excited to sleep!!!".
      i hope to meet a lot of new folks as well as seeing old friends.   looking
forward!   ...tim

Ed Speer <ed@...> wrote:
   We hope everyone is planning to attend Trail Days next weekend in
Damascus, VA. As usual, Speer Hammocks will have a booth in the
vendor area--drop by & say 'Hi' & receive a special appreciation
gift! Karen, Tim & I are looking forward to meeting everyone. Yes,
Tim, our own 'Slowhike', will be helping at the booth this year.

Speer Hammocks will be introducing several new products, including
our improved hammock, 8x10 cat tarp, & the much-anticipated SnugFit
UnderQuilt! These items are so new, they're not even on the website
yet! Those lucky enough to make it to Trail Days will be the first
to see and try our newest products!

In addition, all hammocks & down items will be 10% during the show!
OK, to be fair to all of our valued customers, including those who
can't make Trail Days next weekend, the 10% off all hammocks and down
items, starts at 9am tomorrow (Monday May 11, 2007) and runs til 5pm
May 31, 2007!

Come join us in celebrating the Appalachian Trail in Damascus next
weekend--we'll be looking for ya!

....Ed

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I wish I could be there, it sounds like a great time.

Go Brian Canter (PBR) !!!!!  Go Jennifer Santiago (WCL) !!!!!!  wooohoooo
!!!!!
-------Original Message-------

From: tim garner
Date: 5/13/2007 6:33:56 PM
To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] TrailDays07 May 18-20, 2007

yep, i'm excited about helping out at the speer hammocks booth this year!
thursday night i'll probably be like that kid in the disney commercial...
"i'm too excited to sleep!!!".
i hope to meet a lot of new folks as well as seeing old friends. looking
forward! ...tim
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if you're ever out this way in may, it's a pretty cool place to be.   ...tim

Melissa <mislilmis@...> wrote:  I wish I could be there, it sounds
like a great time.

Go Brian Canter (PBR) !!!!! Go Jennifer Santiago (WCL) !!!!!! wooohoooo
!!!!!
-------Original Message-------

From: tim garner
Date: 5/13/2007 6:33:56 PM
To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] TrailDays07 May 18-20, 2007

yep, i'm excited about helping out at the speer hammocks booth this year!
thursday night i'll probably be like that kid in the disney commercial...
"i'm too excited to sleep!!!".
i hope to meet a lot of new folks as well as seeing old friends. looking
forward! ...tim
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I have finally gotten the chance to spend a weekend hanging. I spent a
long time reading and researching prior to taking the plunge. I am
really surprised it has taken me this long. Well it was a great
weekend, the weather dropped to the mid-high 30's and I was still
toasty warm. I am going again this weekend.

One question for the group, what do you do with your shoes to keep
them accessible, dry, and not so the creepy-crawlies can get in them?

mrb

--- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "mrbyer" <mrbyer@...> wrote:
>
> I have finally gotten the chance to spend a weekend hanging. I spent a
> long time reading and researching prior to taking the plunge. I am
> really surprised it has taken me this long. Well it was a great
> weekend, the weather dropped to the mid-high 30's and I was still
> toasty warm. I am going again this weekend.
>
> One question for the group, what do you do with your shoes to keep
> them accessible, dry, and not so the creepy-crawlies can get in them?
>
> mrb
>

Tie them together and hang them from the ridgeline or at the foot end
of the hammock. With an HH I usually hang them from the inside
ridgeline either with one of the hooks supplied with the hammock or an
extra biner i have with. With my Speer hammock I just drape them tied
together over the foot end of the hammock.

Touch of Grey

a lot of people tie them to the hammock support rope or webbing, but if it
rains they will get wet unless you cover them w/ a trash bag or some thing.
        some of us just have them setting on the ground, under the edge of the
hammock... right were my feet go when i get up.
    if you're concerned about bugs & stuff getting into them, just turn each one
upside down & give it a few good wacks.
      some people put them in their backpack beneath the hammock on the ground...
maybe w/ a pack cover or trash bag over the pack if the rain is blowing.  
...tim

mrbyer <mrbyer@...> wrote:
   I have finally gotten the chance to spend a weekend hanging. I spent a
long time reading and researching prior to taking the plunge. I am
really surprised it has taken me this long. Well it was a great
weekend, the weather dropped to the mid-high 30's and I was still
toasty warm. I am going again this weekend.

One question for the group, what do you do with your shoes to keep
them accessible, dry, and not so the creepy-crawlies can get in them?

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I turn mine over in the morning and shake them hard. Sometimes I hang them
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I had a bag hanging by a webbing strap from ridge line of my Hennessey
Backpacking Ultralight.  The bag was outside the hammock.  A huge
cricket (>1 inch long) somehow managed to join me inside the hammock.
Imagine how much fun it is to catch a cricket when you and it are
confined inside a hammock!  I assume the cricket worked it's way inside
through the gap made by the webbing of the bag.  The rest of the velcro
closure was closed.  I don't think I had bits of sleeping bag poking
through the closure.

On the other hand, camping in central Alabama last summer, the place was
literally crawling with ants.  Huge 1/2 inch columns going up the north
side of every tree.  They started using tarp guylines and soon I had
huge columns on my hammock.  The velcro worked to keep them out.  I
would have noticed if they got in, because these ants bit.

Anyone else had critters breaking and entering?

CL

amendment2@... wrote:
> I turn mine over in the morning and shake them hard. Sometimes I hang them
> on a tree with my pack and cover them both with a big plastic  bag.

sounds like you may want to treat your hammock w/ permethrin.

Cara Lin Bridgman <caralinb@...> wrote:  I had a bag hanging by a
webbing strap from ridge line of my Hennessey
Backpacking Ultralight. The bag was outside the hammock. A huge
cricket (>1 inch long) somehow managed to join me inside the hammock.
Imagine how much fun it is to catch a cricket when you and it are
confined inside a hammock! I assume the cricket worked it's way inside
through the gap made by the webbing of the bag. The rest of the velcro
closure was closed. I don't think I had bits of sleeping bag poking
through the closure.

On the other hand, camping in central Alabama last summer, the place was
literally crawling with ants. Huge 1/2 inch columns going up the north
side of every tree. They started using tarp guylines and soon I had
huge columns on my hammock. The velcro worked to keep them out. I
would have noticed if they got in, because these ants bit.

Anyone else had critters breaking and entering?

CL

amendment2@... wrote:
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> on a tree with my pack and cover them both with a big plastic bag.




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Thanks for the suggestion, but Permethrin might not be necessary.  So
far, not hanging webbing through the Hennessey exit has worked to keep
out crickets and ants.  Hanging anything through might not keep out
ants, but probably would keep out crickets.  It makes me wonder how the
Adventure Racer would work--no velcro.  In other words, my point is that
the velcro is important whether you're occupying the hammock or not.
Some folks have pointed out the velcro mainly functions to keep things
out when you're not in.

CL

tim garner wrote:
> sounds like you may want to treat your hammock w/ permethrin.
>
> Cara Lin Bridgman <caralinb@...> wrote:  I had a bag hanging by a
webbing strap from ridge line of my Hennessey
> Backpacking Ultralight. The bag was outside the hammock. A huge
> cricket (>1 inch long) somehow managed to join me inside the hammock.
> Imagine how much fun it is to catch a cricket when you and it are
> confined inside a hammock! I assume the cricket worked it's way inside
> through the gap made by the webbing of the bag. The rest of the velcro
> closure was closed. I don't think I had bits of sleeping bag poking
> through the closure.
>
> On the other hand, camping in central Alabama last summer, the place was
> literally crawling with ants. Huge 1/2 inch columns going up the north
> side of every tree. They started using tarp guylines and soon I had
> huge columns on my hammock. The velcro worked to keep them out. I
> would have noticed if they got in, because these ants bit.
>
> Anyone else had critters breaking and entering?

1. Buy or make an equipment hammock for your shoes and things. 2. If not, put
your shoes inside a large ziplock bag, stuffsack, or any large plastic bag and
hang it on your hammock suspension with a cord.
Quoting mrbyer <mrbyer@...>:

> I have finally gotten the chance to spend a weekend hanging. I spent a
> long time reading and researching prior to taking the plunge. I am
> really surprised it has taken me this long. Well it was a great
> weekend, the weather dropped to the mid-high 30's and I was still
> toasty warm. I am going again this weekend.
>
> One question for the group, what do you do with your shoes to keep
> them accessible, dry, and not so the creepy-crawlies can get in them?
>
> mrb
>
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