I've posted the photos on the HammockCamping site under 'How to tie a
Lungi"  More details are below.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: changing rooms - How to Tie a Lungi
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 11:12:52 +0800
From: Cara Lin Bridgman <caralinb@...>
To: Rosalind Suit <rosalind.suit@...>
References: <002801c75e6a$ca6d6620$bc02fea9@rosalind9aa401>

Hi Rosie,

A lungi is a tube.  Sarongs are rectangle cloths.

The width of the tube can be whatever you want or need: 1.5 yards, 2
yards, 2.5 yards.  You adjust the width based on your own width.  When I
was in high school, 1.5 was plenty of room.  Now, I prefer 2 yards.

Length:  The trick here is to find a bolt with the right pattern and the
right width.  Hemming adds time and weight.  I like my lungis to be
40-46 inches long.  After I put them on and tie them up, they're just
right.  Too long and you trip over it and it's also unnecessary weight.
     Traditionally, however, they're supposed to go down to your ankles.

I've not found good pictoral instructions.  I got my husband to take a
series of photos.  Here is the description and I've noted which part
fits which picture.

How to tie it on:  Step through (TyingALungi-01.JPG).  Gather the top of
the lungi into two rabbit ears (TyingALungi-02.JPG, TyingALungi-03.JPGm
and TyingALungi-04.JPG).  In front of you, looking down, it will look a
little like this ---^^---, with the ^ being the rabbit ears.  You'll
know you've got the width of the lungi about right if your rabbit ears
are 6-10 inches long (too short and they come undone, too long and it's
a waste, waist, of cloth).  If you've pulled out the rabbit ears right,
the rest of the cloth should be against your waist (TyingALungi-04.JPG).
Now, cross one rabbit ear over the other (TyingALungi-05.JPG) and
twist (TyingALungi-06.JPG) the two tight against your waist
(TyingALungi-07.JPG).  I guess you could think about the rabbit ears
doing a do-se-do as in contra and square dancing.  The rabbit ears
should end up on the side they started.  Tuck them into the lungi and
you're done (TyingALungi-08.JPG).  Note, the knot is not tied.  The knot
is really a twist that's tucked in.

The standard for Bangladeshi men is to wear the resulting knot full
center (for good reasons...).  I find it more attractive on women if the
knot's worn off-center.  The knot isn't a real knot, but if you've tied
it snug against your waist, it holds well and makes for nice pleating
down the length of the lungi.  So, running, biking, and climbing trees
are all possible in a lungi.  If it starts to work loose, it's easy to
pull the rabbit ears out and tighten them up again.  In Bangladesh, the
men use the rabbit ears for pockets.

Being a tube, lungis can last longer than a sarong, especially if you
rotate and flip the tube each time you wear it.  My first few lungis
gave way when I squatted down to pick something up and duct-tape on a
lungi isn't very satisfactory.

CL

Rosalind Suit wrote:
> Cara Lin,
>
> I've tried googling lungi/longi to get an idea of how much material,
> length and width, make up the item.  I also wanted some pictorial
> instruction on how to tie the thing.  Any suggestions?  I've saved your
> description of how you change, but I'm not sure if it's a sewn tube of
> material, or a rectangular cloth.  thanks
>
> Rosie/mdhiker

I do both half-hitches as slippery half-hitches.  It holds well and you
only have to pull on one cord to release it all.  I've been using it on
my tarp like that for a while.

Stoikurt

-----Original Message-----
From: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Womble
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:09 PM
To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Hammock Camping] Re: Tying a hammock

Nate, the first half hitch being slippery and the second one not seems
kind of strange to me.  Does it release easily?

I use a slippery bowline alot and sometimes double up the rope in the
knot when I have a lot extra rope.  When it is done there is this
bunch of rope in a knot, with a single line, a looped line and a
doubled looped line exiting it.  I call it a combination knot because
to release it you have to know what to pull on and what order to
pull... you have to pull the looped line to clear the double looped
line and then the single line to clear the looped line to release it.
  It is real easy IF you do it right.

Youngblood

--- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "Nate" <natesdenn71@...> wrote:
>
> For the last year or so I used a clip in system to hang my hammock.  I
> recently came across a simple knot on the www.mosquitohammock.com
> website.  I used 1/2inch tubular climbing webbing for my hammock
> support "ropes."   This was webbing I was using as tree straps.  It
> works well!  I have 12ft. of webbing on each end.  Here is a link to
> the knot.
>
> http://www.mosquitohammock.com/hammockknots.html
>
>
> Nate
> Tripping Program Director
>






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--- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Womble" <dpwomble@...> wrote:
>
> Nate, the first half hitch being slippery and the second one not seems
> kind of strange to me.  Does it release easily?


I just started using this knot, and so far it seems to release easy.
This whole knot reminds me of a trucker's hitch.  So far I am liking
it because of the ease of release and the flexibility in adjusting the
hammock height I get from the knot.

Thanks again, CL !!  Hope you post the photos/directions/etc. on the WH's site,
too !!
You may have just started a new trail-related fad!!

Rosie
mdhiker

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where can i find a lungi.......i live in georgia.

On 3/8/07, Cara Lin Bridgman <caralinb@...> wrote:
>
>   I've posted the photos on the HammockCamping site under 'How to tie a
> Lungi" More details are below.
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: changing rooms - How to Tie a Lungi
> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 11:12:52 +0800
> From: Cara Lin Bridgman <caralinb@...<caralinb%40ms68.hinet.net>
> >
> To: Rosalind Suit <rosalind.suit@... <rosalind.suit%40verizon.net>
> >
> References: <002801c75e6a$ca6d6620$bc02fea9@rosalind9aa401>
>
> Hi Rosie,
>
> A lungi is a tube. Sarongs are rectangle cloths.
>
> The width of the tube can be whatever you want or need: 1.5 yards, 2
> yards, 2.5 yards. You adjust the width based on your own width. When I
> was in high school, 1.5 was plenty of room. Now, I prefer 2 yards.
>
> Length: The trick here is to find a bolt with the right pattern and the
> right width. Hemming adds time and weight. I like my lungis to be
> 40-46 inches long. After I put them on and tie them up, they're just
> right. Too long and you trip over it and it's also unnecessary weight.
> Traditionally, however, they're supposed to go down to your ankles.
>
> I've not found good pictoral instructions. I got my husband to take a
> series of photos. Here is the description and I've noted which part
> fits which picture.
>
> How to tie it on: Step through (TyingALungi-01.JPG). Gather the top of
> the lungi into two rabbit ears (TyingALungi-02.JPG, TyingALungi-03.JPGm
> and TyingALungi-04.JPG). In front of you, looking down, it will look a
> little like this ---^^---, with the ^ being the rabbit ears. You'll
> know you've got the width of the lungi about right if your rabbit ears
> are 6-10 inches long (too short and they come undone, too long and it's
> a waste, waist, of cloth). If you've pulled out the rabbit ears right,
> the rest of the cloth should be against your waist (TyingALungi-04.JPG).
> Now, cross one rabbit ear over the other (TyingALungi-05.JPG) and
> twist (TyingALungi-06.JPG) the two tight against your waist
> (TyingALungi-07.JPG). I guess you could think about the rabbit ears
> doing a do-se-do as in contra and square dancing. The rabbit ears
> should end up on the side they started. Tuck them into the lungi and
> you're done (TyingALungi-08.JPG). Note, the knot is not tied. The knot
> is really a twist that's tucked in.
>
> The standard for Bangladeshi men is to wear the resulting knot full
> center (for good reasons...). I find it more attractive on women if the
> knot's worn off-center. The knot isn't a real knot, but if you've tied
> it snug against your waist, it holds well and makes for nice pleating
> down the length of the lungi. So, running, biking, and climbing trees
> are all possible in a lungi. If it starts to work loose, it's easy to
> pull the rabbit ears out and tighten them up again. In Bangladesh, the
> men use the rabbit ears for pockets.
>
> Being a tube, lungis can last longer than a sarong, especially if you
> rotate and flip the tube each time you wear it. My first few lungis
> gave way when I squatted down to pick something up and duct-tape on a
> lungi isn't very satisfactory.
>
> CL
>
> Rosalind Suit wrote:
> > Cara Lin,
> >
> > I've tried googling lungi/longi to get an idea of how much material,
> > length and width, make up the item. I also wanted some pictorial
> > instruction on how to tie the thing. Any suggestions? I've saved your
> > description of how you change, but I'm not sure if it's a sewn tube of
> > material, or a rectangular cloth. thanks
> >
> > Rosie/mdhiker
>
>
>


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Sounds like any fabric store or the fabric department in your favorite big
box store would have one - they just don't know it. Buy a couple yards of
thin cotton that pleases your eye and sew the ends together making a tube.
You can even try on the fabric to find the right amount to buy.

But don't believe me, I'm the one who started this thread. One of the
experts will no doubt chime in.

Cheers,

Carey

   -----Original Message-----
   From: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of ij santiago
   Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 1:21 PM
   To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] [Fwd: Re: changing rooms - How to Tie a
Lungi] - photos posted


   where can i find a lungi.......i live in georgia.

   On 3/8/07, Cara Lin Bridgman <caralinb@...> wrote:
   >
   > I've posted the photos on the HammockCamping site under 'How to tie a
   > Lungi" More details are below.
   >
   > -------- Original Message --------
   > Subject: Re: changing rooms - How to Tie a Lungi
   > Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 11:12:52 +0800
   > From: Cara Lin Bridgman
<caralinb@...<caralinb%40ms68.hinet.net>
   > >
   > To: Rosalind Suit <rosalind.suit@...
<rosalind.suit%40verizon.net>
   > >
   > References: <002801c75e6a$ca6d6620$bc02fea9@rosalind9aa401>
   >
   > Hi Rosie,
   >
   > A lungi is a tube. Sarongs are rectangle cloths.
   >
   > The width of the tube can be whatever you want or need: 1.5 yards, 2
   > yards, 2.5 yards. You adjust the width based on your own width. When I
   > was in high school, 1.5 was plenty of room. Now, I prefer 2 yards.
   >
   > Length: The trick here is to find a bolt with the right pattern and the
   > right width. Hemming adds time and weight. I like my lungis to be
   > 40-46 inches long. After I put them on and tie them up, they're just
   > right. Too long and you trip over it and it's also unnecessary weight.
   > Traditionally, however, they're supposed to go down to your ankles.
   >
   > I've not found good pictoral instructions. I got my husband to take a
   > series of photos. Here is the description and I've noted which part
   > fits which picture.
   >
   > How to tie it on: Step through (TyingALungi-01.JPG). Gather the top of
   > the lungi into two rabbit ears (TyingALungi-02.JPG, TyingALungi-03.JPGm
   > and TyingALungi-04.JPG). In front of you, looking down, it will look a
   > little like this ---^^---, with the ^ being the rabbit ears. You'll
   > know you've got the width of the lungi about right if your rabbit ears
   > are 6-10 inches long (too short and they come undone, too long and it's
   > a waste, waist, of cloth). If you've pulled out the rabbit ears right,
   > the rest of the cloth should be against your waist (TyingALungi-04.JPG).
   > Now, cross one rabbit ear over the other (TyingALungi-05.JPG) and
   > twist (TyingALungi-06.JPG) the two tight against your waist
   > (TyingALungi-07.JPG). I guess you could think about the rabbit ears
   > doing a do-se-do as in contra and square dancing. The rabbit ears
   > should end up on the side they started. Tuck them into the lungi and
   > you're done (TyingALungi-08.JPG). Note, the knot is not tied. The knot
   > is really a twist that's tucked in.
   >
   > The standard for Bangladeshi men is to wear the resulting knot full
   > center (for good reasons...). I find it more attractive on women if the
   > knot's worn off-center. The knot isn't a real knot, but if you've tied
   > it snug against your waist, it holds well and makes for nice pleating
   > down the length of the lungi. So, running, biking, and climbing trees
   > are all possible in a lungi. If it starts to work loose, it's easy to
   > pull the rabbit ears out and tighten them up again. In Bangladesh, the
   > men use the rabbit ears for pockets.
   >
   > Being a tube, lungis can last longer than a sarong, especially if you
   > rotate and flip the tube each time you wear it. My first few lungis
   > gave way when I squatted down to pick something up and duct-tape on a
   > lungi isn't very satisfactory.
   >
   > CL
   >
   > Rosalind Suit wrote:
   > > Cara Lin,
   > >
   > > I've tried googling lungi/longi to get an idea of how much material,
   > > length and width, make up the item. I also wanted some pictorial
   > > instruction on how to tie the thing. Any suggestions? I've saved your
   > > description of how you change, but I'm not sure if it's a sewn tube of
   > > material, or a rectangular cloth. thanks
   > >
   > > Rosie/mdhiker
   >
   >
   >

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can't sew to safe my life!!!!!

On 3/8/07, Carey Parks <cjp129@...> wrote:
>
>   Sounds like any fabric store or the fabric department in your favorite
> big
> box store would have one - they just don't know it. Buy a couple yards of
> thin cotton that pleases your eye and sew the ends together making a tube.
> You can even try on the fabric to find the right amount to buy.
>
> But don't believe me, I'm the one who started this thread. One of the
> experts will no doubt chime in.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carey
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com <hammockcamping%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com <hammockcamping%40yahoogroups.com>]On
> Behalf Of ij santiago
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 1:21 PM
> To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com <hammockcamping%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] [Fwd: Re: changing rooms - How to Tie a
> Lungi] - photos posted
>
> where can i find a lungi.......i live in georgia.
>
> On 3/8/07, Cara Lin Bridgman
<caralinb@...<caralinb%40ms68.hinet.net>>
> wrote:
> >
> > I've posted the photos on the HammockCamping site under 'How to tie a
> > Lungi" More details are below.
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: changing rooms - How to Tie a Lungi
> > Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 11:12:52 +0800
> > From: Cara Lin Bridgman
> <caralinb@... <caralinb%40ms68.hinet.net><caralinb%40ms68.
> hinet.net>
> > >
> > To: Rosalind Suit <rosalind.suit@...<rosalind.suit%40verizon.net>
> <rosalind.suit%40verizon.net>
> > >
> > References: <002801c75e6a$ca6d6620$bc02fea9@rosalind9aa401>
> >
> > Hi Rosie,
> >
> > A lungi is a tube. Sarongs are rectangle cloths.
> >
> > The width of the tube can be whatever you want or need: 1.5 yards, 2
> > yards, 2.5 yards. You adjust the width based on your own width. When I
> > was in high school, 1.5 was plenty of room. Now, I prefer 2 yards.
> >
> > Length: The trick here is to find a bolt with the right pattern and the
> > right width. Hemming adds time and weight. I like my lungis to be
> > 40-46 inches long. After I put them on and tie them up, they're just
> > right. Too long and you trip over it and it's also unnecessary weight.
> > Traditionally, however, they're supposed to go down to your ankles.
> >
> > I've not found good pictoral instructions. I got my husband to take a
> > series of photos. Here is the description and I've noted which part
> > fits which picture.
> >
> > How to tie it on: Step through (TyingALungi-01.JPG). Gather the top of
> > the lungi into two rabbit ears (TyingALungi-02.JPG, TyingALungi-03.JPGm
> > and TyingALungi-04.JPG). In front of you, looking down, it will look a
> > little like this ---^^---, with the ^ being the rabbit ears. You'll
> > know you've got the width of the lungi about right if your rabbit ears
> > are 6-10 inches long (too short and they come undone, too long and it's
> > a waste, waist, of cloth). If you've pulled out the rabbit ears right,
> > the rest of the cloth should be against your waist (TyingALungi-04.JPG).
> > Now, cross one rabbit ear over the other (TyingALungi-05.JPG) and
> > twist (TyingALungi-06.JPG) the two tight against your waist
> > (TyingALungi-07.JPG). I guess you could think about the rabbit ears
> > doing a do-se-do as in contra and square dancing. The rabbit ears
> > should end up on the side they started. Tuck them into the lungi and
> > you're done (TyingALungi-08.JPG). Note, the knot is not tied. The knot
> > is really a twist that's tucked in.
> >
> > The standard for Bangladeshi men is to wear the resulting knot full
> > center (for good reasons...). I find it more attractive on women if the
> > knot's worn off-center. The knot isn't a real knot, but if you've tied
> > it snug against your waist, it holds well and makes for nice pleating
> > down the length of the lungi. So, running, biking, and climbing trees
> > are all possible in a lungi. If it starts to work loose, it's easy to
> > pull the rabbit ears out and tighten them up again. In Bangladesh, the
> > men use the rabbit ears for pockets.
> >
> > Being a tube, lungis can last longer than a sarong, especially if you
> > rotate and flip the tube each time you wear it. My first few lungis
> > gave way when I squatted down to pick something up and duct-tape on a
> > lungi isn't very satisfactory.
> >
> > CL
> >
> > Rosalind Suit wrote:
> > > Cara Lin,
> > >
> > > I've tried googling lungi/longi to get an idea of how much material,
> > > length and width, make up the item. I also wanted some pictorial
> > > instruction on how to tie the thing. Any suggestions? I've saved your
> > > description of how you change, but I'm not sure if it's a sewn tube of
> > > material, or a rectangular cloth. thanks
> > >
> > > Rosie/mdhiker
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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http://www.makezine.com/09/

Make Magazine in it's new edition Volume 09 has a 2 page article.

Instant Hammock  by Tim Anderson  in Heirloom Technology
Make your own hammock in less time than it takes to read this. Page 40

http://makezine.com/09/heirloom/


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Sorry guys! I sent out a reply through my email, it probably would be
better to do here - but what exactly is the benefit of a lungi over
pants?

i don't think i'll click on that link untill someone else does<g>.

Without_the_US <eagle@...> wrote:

http://www.makezine.com/09/

Make Magazine in it's new edition Volume 09 has a 2 page article.

Instant Hammock by Tim Anderson in Heirloom Technology
Make your own hammock in less time than it takes to read this. Page 40

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It takes you to a magazine which requires subscription to read the
article.  Don't bother.

Rick

tim garner wrote:
> i don't think i'll click on that link untill someone else does<g>.
>
> Without_the_US <eagle@...> wrote:
>
> http://www.makezine.com/09/
>
> Make Magazine in it's new edition Volume 09 has a 2 page article.
>
> Instant Hammock by Tim Anderson in Heirloom Technology
> Make your own hammock in less time than it takes to read this. Page 40
>
> http://makezine.com/09/heirloom/
>
>

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thanks rick.   do you think you'll be at hot springs in april?

Rick <ra1@...> wrote:  It takes you to a magazine which requires
subscription to read the
article. Don't bother.

Rick

tim garner wrote:
> i don't think i'll click on that link untill someone else does.
>
> Without_the_US wrote:
>
> http://www.makezine.com/09/
>
> Make Magazine in it's new edition Volume 09 has a 2 page article.
>
> Instant Hammock by Tim Anderson in Heirloom Technology
> Make your own hammock in less time than it takes to read this. Page 40
>
> http://makezine.com/09/heirloom/
>
>

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I just don't know yet.

Rick

tim garner wrote:
> thanks rick.   do you think you'll be at hot springs in april?
>
> Rick <ra1@...> wrote:  It takes you to a magazine which requires
subscription to read the
> article. Don't bother.
>
> Rick
>
> tim garner wrote:
>> i don't think i'll click on that link untill someone else does.
>>
>> Without_the_US wrote:
>>
>> http://www.makezine.com/09/
>>
>> Make Magazine in it's new edition Volume 09 has a 2 page article.
>>
>> Instant Hammock by Tim Anderson in Heirloom Technology
>> Make your own hammock in less time than it takes to read this. Page 40
>>
>> http://makezine.com/09/heirloom/
>>
>>
>

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Hi everybody!
eveybody is talking about the the lungi. Why not use the "malong" of the
maaranao tribe of southern Philippines instead. Its a piece of cloth (a tube in
fact)very similar to the lungi the only difference is that its 6 to 8 ft long.
You can use it as a blanket, towel, kilt, etc. The maranao tribesmen even made
a dance of the 101 ways to use the malong. They even use for it
sunshade, privacy curtain, temporary hammock for infants, blanket, towel etc.
Its very
practical and the only difference with the lungi is the length. In the southern
philippines it is usually made of
cotton although some malong used by the local "royalty" are made of silk,
good quality cotton, or indonesian "batik". Anyway just follow the instruction
on how to make a lungi but add a few ft. just enough to cover you from head to
foot. I once saw a basketball team of maranao tribesmen attired in malong (worn
like a kilt) and jersey.One member of the team even took a siesta break  by
untying his malong and extending it full length to cover his head. All i could
say is that the game was "unique" and "interesting." Women can wear the malong
too by tying it up at armpit level or tying a knot above the right or left
shoulder.

Rene

Quoting ij santiago <snoopylives1@...>:

> can't sew to safe my life!!!!!
>
> On 3/8/07, Carey Parks <cjp129@...> wrote:
> >
> >   Sounds like any fabric store or the fabric department in your favorite
> > big
> > box store would have one - they just don't know it. Buy a couple yards of
> > thin cotton that pleases your eye and sew the ends together making a tube.
> > You can even try on the fabric to find the right amount to buy.
> >
> > But don't believe me, I'm the one who started this thread. One of the
> > experts will no doubt chime in.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Carey
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com <hammockcamping%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
> <hammockcamping%40yahoogroups.com>]On
> > Behalf Of ij santiago
> > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 1:21 PM
> > To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com <hammockcamping%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Hammock Camping] [Fwd: Re: changing rooms - How to Tie a
> > Lungi] - photos posted
> >
> > where can i find a lungi.......i live in georgia.
> >
> > On 3/8/07, Cara Lin Bridgman
> <caralinb@...<caralinb%40ms68.hinet.net>>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I've posted the photos on the HammockCamping site under 'How to tie a
> > > Lungi" More details are below.
> > >
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: Re: changing rooms - How to Tie a Lungi
> > > Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 11:12:52 +0800
> > > From: Cara Lin Bridgman
> > <caralinb@... <caralinb%40ms68.hinet.net><caralinb%40ms68.
> > hinet.net>
> > > >
> > > To: Rosalind Suit
> <rosalind.suit@...<rosalind.suit%40verizon.net>
> > <rosalind.suit%40verizon.net>
> > > >
> > > References: <002801c75e6a$ca6d6620$bc02fea9@rosalind9aa401>
> > >
> > > Hi Rosie,
> > >
> > > A lungi is a tube. Sarongs are rectangle cloths.
> > >
> > > The width of the tube can be whatever you want or need: 1.5 yards, 2
> > > yards, 2.5 yards. You adjust the width based on your own width. When I
> > > was in high school, 1.5 was plenty of room. Now, I prefer 2 yards.
> > >
> > > Length: The trick here is to find a bolt with the right pattern and the
> > > right width. Hemming adds time and weight. I like my lungis to be
> > > 40-46 inches long. After I put them on and tie them up, they're just
> > > right. Too long and you trip over it and it's also unnecessary weight.
> > > Traditionally, however, they're supposed to go down to your ankles.
> > >
> > > I've not found good pictoral instructions. I got my husband to take a
> > > series of photos. Here is the description and I've noted which part
> > > fits which picture.
> > >
> > > How to tie it on: Step through (TyingALungi-01.JPG). Gather the top of
> > > the lungi into two rabbit ears (TyingALungi-02.JPG, TyingALungi-03.JPGm
> > > and TyingALungi-04.JPG). In front of you, looking down, it will look a
> > > little like this ---^^---, with the ^ being the rabbit ears. You'll
> > > know you've got the width of the lungi about right if your rabbit ears
> > > are 6-10 inches long (too short and they come undone, too long and it's
> > > a waste, waist, of cloth). If you've pulled out the rabbit ears right,
> > > the rest of the cloth should be against your waist (TyingALungi-04.JPG).
> > > Now, cross one rabbit ear over the other (TyingALungi-05.JPG) and
> > > twist (TyingALungi-06.JPG) the two tight against your waist
> > > (TyingALungi-07.JPG). I guess you could think about the rabbit ears
> > > doing a do-se-do as in contra and square dancing. The rabbit ears
> > > should end up on the side they started. Tuck them into the lungi and
> > > you're done (TyingALungi-08.JPG). Note, the knot is not tied. The knot
> > > is really a twist that's tucked in.
> > >
> > > The standard for Bangladeshi men is to wear the resulting knot full
> > > center (for good reasons...). I find it more attractive on women if the
> > > knot's worn off-center. The knot isn't a real knot, but if you've tied
> > > it snug against your waist, it holds well and makes for nice pleating
> > > down the length of the lungi. So, running, biking, and climbing trees
> > > are all possible in a lungi. If it starts to work loose, it's easy to
> > > pull the rabbit ears out and tighten them up again. In Bangladesh, the
> > > men use the rabbit ears for pockets.
> > >
> > > Being a tube, lungis can last longer than a sarong, especially if you
> > > rotate and flip the tube each time you wear it. My first few lungis
> > > gave way when I squatted down to pick something up and duct-tape on a
> > > lungi isn't very satisfactory.
> > >
> > > CL
> > >
> > > Rosalind Suit wrote:
> > > > Cara Lin,
> > > >
> > > > I've tried googling lungi/longi to get an idea of how much material,
> > > > length and width, make up the item. I also wanted some pictorial
> > > > instruction on how to tie the thing. Any suggestions? I've saved your
> > > > description of how you change, but I'm not sure if it's a sewn tube of
> > > > material, or a rectangular cloth. thanks
> > > >
> > > > Rosie/mdhiker
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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Visit us at http://www.msuiit.edu.ph.

You can't change you pants with your pants on, but you can change your pants
with your lungi on.

This whole thread started when I asked how hammockers would change out of a
wet, salty swim suit. I hung my hammock but could not pitch the tarp or
stake out the hammock even because the sea breeze was blowing about 15 kts.
By evening it would calm down, but I wanted to change into something dry
before the sun went down. That's what started the thread. The lungi was
suggested as that something dry I should change into. I could just put it
on, and slip the suit off the bottom.

That said, I expect a lungi would have all the other advantages of a kilt.
Check out Risk's page (imrisk.com) for some insight into his experiences
with a kilt on the AT.

C

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   To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: RE: [Hammock Camping] [Fwd: Re: changing rooms - How to Tie a
Lungi] - photos posted



   How are lungi's better than pants?

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Last year I tested a 4"  thick home made quilt, 3  3/8"  foam pads,
cuban tarp, and a silk hammock in the backyard .
At 17 degrees  and no wind I was cool but OK.
I realized that any appreciable wind would make staying
comfortable wishful thinking. I considered making a travel pod
but I use a ridge line and wanted enough room inside to read.
So this year I slapped together a hammock cocoon out of dacron
sail cloth (water repellent & breathable)to test the concept.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t198/pkaercher/DSC02029.jpg

(in case the photo does not show the caption here it is:
The cocoon is backlit so you can see the hammock inside,
the quilt is piled on the right half of the hammock.
The black fabric is the door cover, which is not attached to the failed
velcro attachment points and is hiding the vertical door slit.)

I was wearing a cotton undershirt, cotton long sleeved
shirt (I know cotton kills, but not in my back yard) a
mid-weight fleece top, Cotton sweat-pants, lined ski pants,
a balaclava and a knit cap, plus cotton gloves.
I also used a Stephenson's DAM instead of foam pads.

I was hot in 5 min. so I took off the ski pants and used
them as a pillow. The gloves came off, and the knit cap came off.
Then I un-tucked the quilt to let some cool air circulate.

The cocoon really makes a difference. As long as I breath
through the balaclava moisture buildup on the inside is
not too bad. However the balaclava was too tight (they
seem to only be sold as a one size fits all)
and was giving me a head ache, so off it came. The air
inside the cocoon was warm enough to be comfortable
without anything over my mouth & nose, but the part
of the cocoon closest to my face got wet. So in
the future I will have to breath through something loose
knit to reduce moisture build-up.

The door to the cocoon closes with 1" hook & loop
  with self stick backing. Well the velcro stuck
fine to itself but the self stick backing doesn't stick when it's cold,
so I will have to sew them on.

At 2pm I was still toasty but had to pee.  When I went inside
I checked the outside temp, only 21, not cold enough so I just stayed inside.
My wife woke up, looked at the clock, and mumbled
"wuss"  and went back to sleep.

2nd Night.

3" of new snow. wind 10-12mph.
Clothing:  cotton: socks, undershirt, long sleeved shirt,
sweat-pants. Plus a fleece jacket and polyester cap.

I slept until 4:30AM at which point I had to pee. (Denise
woke up, again, looked at the clock and said "Hmmm
I see you lasted a little longer tonight." I think she is under
the misconception that night testing should last all night.)
By then it was 13 degrees and almost no wind.
I was warm (not toasty) with a couple of cool spots
which (as I tested out) could be alleviated with the
closed cell foam sit pad I carry on trips (about 8"X12")
For cold weather camping I would carry 2 of them.

I had some ice and liquid water on the inside of the
cocoon around my head, but no moisture anywhere on the quilt
or on the cocoon from the waist down to my feet.

I used an old bulky loose knit beanie as a face cover.
It worked great, I breathed in warm moist air the whole
time. I find breathing cold air very annoying
when I'm trying to get to sleep. I'm getting crotchety
(soft) as I get older.

I had an indoor/outdoor thermometer on top of the
quilt and it varied between 40 & 45 degrees. The air in
the cocoon was cooler than that as you got away from the
surface of the quilt, but it was above freezing.
If I do this again I will bring a clip to hang the thermometer
from the ridge line to keep it off the quilt.
If you don't like sleeping with something over your face, using
the cocoon lets you breath air that is significantly warmer and
moister than the outside air.

If I had used my normal winter camping clothing, I would
probably be warm down to 8 degrees or so. Wind would
likely bump that up some, but when I fix the door flap,
the wind should not be too bad. It will be interesting to
test in more wind because I suspect as the cocoon flaps,
air will be pumped in and out of the snorkels (ends)
and the door. This will lower the inside air temp but will
also exhaust moisture.

I like the concept and will add 2 Cuben fabric windows so
I can see out both sides.

Paul

This is the second link..............
Actually Make is a good mag. and has an interesting web site.

Cool hammock, I have made 2
Reply

I made 2 hammocks like this from plans in "Hammock Camping" by ED Speer.

My boys (4 and 7) sleep in them most nights. Works great for thier allergies,
the bedding is much easier to keep clean.

Speer has a website

www.hammockcamping.com

With some great tips.

Art.

Posted by kf7gd on February 13, 2007 at 23:25:04 Pacific Time

At 07:40 PM 3/8/07, you wrote:

>I just don't know yet.
>
>Rick
>
>tim garner wrote:
>> thanks rick.   do you think you'll be at hot springs in april?
>>
>> Rick <ra1@...> wrote:  It takes you to a magazine which requires
subscription to read the
>> article. Don't bother.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> tim garner wrote:
>>> i don't think i'll click on that link untill someone else does.
>>>
>>> Without_the_US wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.makezine.com/09/
>>>
>>> Make Magazine in it's new edition Volume 09 has a 2 page article.
>>>
>>> Instant Hammock by Tim Anderson in Heirloom Technology
>>> Make your own hammock in less time than it takes to read this. Page 40
>>>
>>> http://makezine.com/09/heirloom/
>>>
>>>
>>
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ij santiago wrote:
  > can't sew to safe my life!!!!!

Well, a lungi could be a good way to start.  Few other things require
more elementary sewing than a lungi.  Lungis sold in Bangladesh and
other places are sold unsewn.

I suppose you could staple it together -- but that would add prickliness
and shorten the lungi life-span (rust, for one thing).

Fabric shops sell fabric glues.  You could try gluing the ends together.
   If you always have the seam in one of the rabbit ears, then there
would be no stress on the seam.

CL

Exactly right.  I'm fond of Madras Plaid, but any cloth would do (hmmm,
silk...).  Just check bolt width to make sure it suits you.

CL

Carey Parks wrote:
> Sounds like any fabric store or the fabric department in your favorite big
> box store would have one - they just don't know it. Buy a couple yards of
> thin cotton that pleases your eye and sew the ends together making a tube.
> You can even try on the fabric to find the right amount to buy.

trust me cara, you don't want me near a sewing machine.....but the glue
might be the ticket!
i will look for silk. cotton and the at, don't mix....
thakx...

On 3/8/07, Cara Lin Bridgman <caralinb@...> wrote:
>
>   ij santiago wrote:
> > can't sew to safe my life!!!!!
>
> Well, a lungi could be a good way to start. Few other things require
> more elementary sewing than a lungi. Lungis sold in Bangladesh and
> other places are sold unsewn.
>
> I suppose you could staple it together -- but that would add prickliness
> and shorten the lungi life-span (rust, for one thing).
>
> Fabric shops sell fabric glues. You could try gluing the ends together.
> If you always have the seam in one of the rabbit ears, then there
> would be no stress on the seam.
>
> CL
>
>
>


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Multi-use -- as others have stated before.

Although pants can also be multi-use, the only things they do better
than a lungi are save embarrassment if you fall out of a tree or do a
Marylin Monroe and reduce entanglement when bushwacking.  They are also
likely to be warmer when it's cold.

Cl

jamesdwampler wrote:
> what exactly is the benefit of a lungi over pants?

Sewing machine?  Who said anything about a sewing machine?  Dental floss
and a needle is about my limit!  And with a lungi, if you sew crooked,
it doesn't matter.

CL

ij santiago wrote:
> trust me cara, you don't want me near a sewing machine.....but the glue
> might be the ticket!
> i will look for silk. cotton and the at, don't mix....
> thakx...

Great idea & report Paul.  Let us know how it continues to work.  I'm
working on something similar for Speer Hammocks-should have it out soon..Ed



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From: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Paul Kaercher
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 10:36 PM
To: hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SPAM] [Hammock Camping] Hammock Cocoon & backyard testing.



Last year I tested a 4" thick home made quilt, 3 3/8" foam pads,
cuban tarp, and a silk hammock in the backyard .
At 17 degrees and no wind I was cool but OK.
I realized that any appreciable wind would make staying
comfortable wishful thinking. I considered making a travel pod
but I use a ridge line and wanted enough room inside to read.
So this year I slapped together a hammock cocoon out of dacron
sail cloth (water repellent & breathable)to test the concept.

http://i160.
<http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t198/pkaercher/DSC02029.jpg>
photobucket.com/albums/t198/pkaercher/DSC02029.jpg

(in case the photo does not show the caption here it is:
The cocoon is backlit so you can see the hammock inside,
the quilt is piled on the right half of the hammock.
The black fabric is the door cover, which is not attached to the failed
velcro attachment points and is hiding the vertical door slit.)

I was wearing a cotton undershirt, cotton long sleeved
shirt (I know cotton kills, but not in my back yard) a
mid-weight fleece top, Cotton sweat-pants, lined ski pants,
a balaclava and a knit cap, plus cotton gloves.
I also used a Stephenson's DAM instead of foam pads.

I was hot in 5 min. so I took off the ski pants and used
them as a pillow. The gloves came off, and the knit cap came off.
Then I un-tucked the quilt to let some cool air circulate.

The cocoon really makes a difference. As long as I breath
through the balaclava moisture buildup on the inside is
not too bad. However the balaclava was too tight (they
seem to only be sold as a one size fits all)
and was giving me a head ache, so off it came. The air
inside the cocoon was warm enough to be comfortable
without anything over my mouth & nose, but the part
of the cocoon closest to my face got wet. So in
the future I will have to breath through something loose
knit to reduce moisture build-up.

The door to the cocoon closes with 1" hook & loop
with self stick backing. Well the velcro stuck
fine to itself but the self stick backing doesn't stick when it's cold,
so I will have to sew them on.

At 2pm I was still toasty but had to pee. When I went inside
I checked the outside temp, only 21, not cold enough so I just stayed
inside.
My wife woke up, looked at the clock, and mumbled
"wuss" and went back to sleep.

2nd Night.

3" of new snow. wind 10-12mph.
Clothing: cotton: socks, undershirt, long sleeved shirt,
sweat-pants. Plus a fleece jacket and polyester cap.

I slept until 4:30AM at which point I had to pee. (Denise
woke up, again, looked at the clock and said "Hmmm
I see you lasted a little longer tonight." I think she is under
the misconception that night testing should last all night.)
By then it was 13 degrees and almost no wind.
I was warm (not toasty) with a couple of cool spots
which (as I tested out) could be alleviated with the
closed cell foam sit pad I carry on trips (about 8"X12")
For cold weather camping I would carry 2 of them.

I had some ice and liquid water on the inside of the
cocoon around my head, but no moisture anywhere on the quilt
or on the cocoon from the waist down to my feet.

I used an old bulky loose knit beanie as a face cover.
It worked great, I breathed in warm moist air the whole
time. I find breathing cold air very annoying
when I'm trying to get to sleep. I'm getting crotchety
(soft) as I get older.

I had an indoor/outdoor thermometer on top of the
quilt and it varied between 40 & 45 degrees. The air in
the cocoon was cooler than that as you got away from the
surface of the quilt, but it was above freezing.
If I do this again I will bring a clip to hang the thermometer
from the ridge line to keep it off the quilt.
If you don't like sleeping with something over your face, using
the cocoon lets you breath air that is significantly warmer and
moister than the outside air.

If I had used my normal winter camping clothing, I would
probably be warm down to 8 degrees or so. Wind would
likely bump that up some, but when I fix the door flap,
the wind should not be too bad. It will be interesting to
test in more wind because I suspect as the cocoon flaps,
air will be pumped in and out of the snorkels (ends)
and the door. This will lower the inside air temp but will
also exhaust moisture.

I like the concept and will add 2 Cuben fabric windows so
I can see out both sides.

Paul





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I was just out on hike with my son. I just made another hammock so he got my
old one.
I made one for him last year but it seemed a bit small. He likes the extra
room
and wrapping himself completely.
This made me wonder about something.
Has anyone made a long hammock?
As I saw my son laying in a 10' hammock he was in center far from the
whipped ends.
Mine is also 10' and longer than what most people probably do...I'm 6'3"
I was thinking about making one 12 to 13' long.
Something else I notice is all the extra fabric on the sides my latest is
48" wide.
So here's the questions:
If it's longer and I'm away from the whipped ends couldn't I make it
skinnier since I'm in the middle?
Laying diagnol I'd say I take up 30" or so on the width.....how much would
yall say you do?
So let's say I tried something like 13' by 42", how would that hang?
Would it be more comfortable, less comfortable, no different?
This would also use less webbing.


Scott


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You could try making a prototype with a bed sheet for width. See how
that works for you.
--- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Schroeder"
<schrochem@...> wrote:
>
> I was just out on hike with my son. I just made another hammock so
he got my
> old one.
> I made one for him last year but it seemed a bit small. He likes
the extra
> room
> and wrapping himself completely.
> This made me wonder about something.
> Has anyone made a long hammock?
> As I saw my son laying in a 10' hammock he was in center far from
the
> whipped ends.
> Mine is also 10' and longer than what most people probably do...I'm
6'3"
> I was thinking about making one 12 to 13' long.
> Something else I notice is all the extra fabric on the sides my
latest is
> 48" wide.
> So here's the questions:
> If it's longer and I'm away from the whipped ends couldn't I make it
> skinnier since I'm in the middle?
> Laying diagnol I'd say I take up 30" or so on the width.....how
much would
> yall say you do?
> So let's say I tried something like 13' by 42", how would that hang?
> Would it be more comfortable, less comfortable, no different?
> This would also use less webbing.
>
>
> Scott
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

i like my hammocks about 48 to 50" wide, but i don't know if you'd want to go
to much more narrow than that.  it might work fine for you but it might be a
good idea to start w/ about 48".
      it would be easy enough to take off more if you decided to.

   the length would probably add some comfort in the way of flexibility, but
would require the trees you use to be farther apart.  so it could limit you from
using two trees that you would really like to use at some point. just some thing
to have in mind.
     my latest hammock is 11' though.    ...tim


Scott Schroeder <schrochem@...> wrote:
   I was just out on hike with my son. I just made another hammock so he got my
old one.
I made one for him last year but it seemed a bit small. He likes the extra
room
and wrapping himself completely.
This made me wonder about something.
Has anyone made a long hammock?
As I saw my son laying in a 10' hammock he was in center far from the
whipped ends.
Mine is also 10' and longer than what most people probably do...I'm 6'3"
I was thinking about making one 12 to 13' long.
Something else I notice is all the extra fabric on the sides my latest is
48" wide.
So here's the questions:
If it's longer and I'm away from the whipped ends couldn't I make it
skinnier since I'm in the middle?
Laying diagnol I'd say I take up 30" or so on the width.....how much would
yall say you do?
So let's say I tried something like 13' by 42", how would that hang?
Would it be more comfortable, less comfortable, no different?
This would also use less webbing.


Scott


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my latest hammock is 11' though.    ...tim

My test hammocks start as 12 feet of cloth (then I tie the sheet bends) so
11' seems about right.


Ralph


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--- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph Oborn" <Ralph.oborn@...>
wrote:
>
>    my latest hammock is 11' though.    ...tim
>
> My test hammocks start as 12 feet of cloth (then I tie the sheet
bends) so
> 11' seems about right.
>
>
> Ralph
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Eleven feet... how long is the tarp you use with that?  If you start
making the tarp too long, then you almost need to made it wider as
well because you can't drop it down as close to the hammock in a storm
type setup.  For backpacking where I need a tarp, I use a 8.5 Speer
type hammock which is about 9 feet long and the full 5 foot width.  I
utilize the full width when I lay on a diagonal and find that the most
comfortable position for me.  That was as long as I was comfortable
with using with my 10.5 foot by 8 foot rectangular tarp when I
eyeballed the coverage and considered blowing rain.

Anyhow, when you start talking about longer hammocks you will need to
take a look at the tarp as well.  Then there is the bugnet, if you use
one of those as it might have to be rethought as well.  Most of the
more comfortable hammocks use a fabric that stretches, like nylon.
(If it doesn't stretch, then it will not conform all that well to your
body shape and you will get uncomfortable pressure points.)  I believe
the total fabric stretch will be proportional to the total fabric
length.  If that is the case, you may have a bigger issue with
overnight stretch and staying off the ground with a longer hammock.  I
think I end up roughly half a foot closer to the ground in the
mornings with my 9 foot hammocks so I would predict that I would end
up roughly 9 inches closer to the ground with a 14 foot hammock using
the same material.

Youngblood

Dave good points on the tarp and sag.
Okay, let's look at it from a dayhiking point of view.
I use a hammock regularly while just out taking photographs.
So the tarp factor aside I was wondering about how the long and skinny would
lie.
I guess I could get some cheap fabric and see.
I was hoping this would overcome two factors that seem a bit bothersome.
They are, the extra fabric on the sides kind of flopping around and the
other
is having my head too close to where the hammock tapers into the whipping.
So, it seemed (by looking at my son) that a longer, skinnier hammock would
be
more comfortable.

Scott



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> Eleven feet... how long is the tarp you use with that?  If you start
> making the tarp too long, then you almost need to made it wider as
> well because you can't drop it down as close to the hammock in a storm
> type setup.  For backpacking where I need a tarp, I use a 8.5 Speer
> type hammock which is about 9 feet long and the full 5 foot width.  I
> utilize the full width when I lay on a diagonal and find that the most
> comfortable position for me.  That was as long as I was comfortable
> with using with my 10.5 foot by 8 foot rectangular tarp when I
> eyeballed the coverage and considered blowing rain.
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> Anyhow, when you start talking about longer hammocks you will need to
> take a look at the tarp as well.  Then there is the bugnet, if you use
> one of those as it might have to be rethought as well.  Most of the
> more comfortable hammocks use a fabric that stretches, like nylon.
> (If it doesn't stretch, then it will not conform all that well to your
> body shape and you will get uncomfortable pressure points.)  I believe
> the total fabric stretch will be proportional to the total fabric
> length.  If that is the case, you may have a bigger issue with
> overnight stretch and staying off the ground with a longer hammock.  I
> think I end up roughly half a foot closer to the ground in the
> mornings with my 9 foot hammocks so I would predict that I would end
> up roughly 9 inches closer to the ground with a 14 foot hammock using
> the same material.
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