Sandy, for the slip resist dots full strenth may be ok.  for just
plain old seam sealing mix the silicone with mineral spirits about
50/50 or even a little thiner depending on project.

Coy Boy


--- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, Sandy Kramer
<sandykayak@y...> wrote:
> now, that IS a good tip.  I just received a small tube of sil
sealant but the larger should work out much cheaper...plus I need
some for the kitchen counter tiles!!
>
>
>
> Dick Matthews <dick@c...> wrote:
> Sandy,
>
> I should have been more specific.  GE Silicone II can be used for
> sealing silnylon.  Different products are used on the coated
fabrics.
>
>
http://www.gesealants.com/sealants/diy/portfolio/silicones/silicone2.
shtml
>
> Dick Matthews
>
>
> Sandy Kramer wrote:
>
> >speaking of seam sealing...  a section hiker friend taught me to
use Thompson's water sealant (the stuff you use for your deck) to
seal tent seams.  It does leave a definite "watermark" but the price
is right.
> >
> >I used it recently for some deck backs that are not meant to be
waterproof but I thought that sealing the seams wouldn't hurt.
> >
> >for making the mattress slipproof...do you use a lot of sealant
so it is raised or do you think Thompson's would work as well?
> >
> >Dick Matthews <dick@c...> wrote:
> >I also use a 3/4 inflatable mattress inside the tent with seal
sealer dots to prevent slipping.
> >
> >Dick Matthews
> >
> >
> >
> >Sandy Kramer wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Dick Matthews <dick@c...> wrote:
> >><<This is THE most comfortable camp chair. >>
> >>
> >>sorry, I forgot to mention this.  I really like the way it
adjusts as you either sit up or recline.
> >>
> >><<I only carry it when I can use it as the frame in my Moonbow
Gearskin (24.4 oz.).  >>
> >>
> >>I googled them after you mentioned it before.  (okay, i'll
fess..i also ordered their $10 video).  I love the way you just fold
everything up into one bundle.  No need to stuff things into
individual sacks.
> >>
> >><<When I am a ground dweller I carry a RidgeRest pad (13.0 oz.)
used as the ground cloth under the tent. >>
> >>
> >>is it also your only mattress for sleeping "comfort"??
> >>
> >><< The pad fits in a Therm-A-Rest chair kit (9.9 oz.).  >>
> >>
> >>I got the Z-rest and was going to see if it would fit in my TAR
chair kit.
> >>
> >><<Hammock hangers don't need no stinkin' chair.>>
> >>
> >>still haven't had a chance to use my hammock in the field. But
the Byer's Moskito Traveler says you just flip it over when you
don't need the bugnet, so that should be easy.
> >>
> >><<5    This review is too late to help you.>>
> >>
> >>it probably wouldn't have deterred me as the new kayak has no
hatches (my lightweight Lafuma butterfly chair just slid inside the
Hobie Pursuit hatch)but the Sling-Light will sit nicely on the flat
stern.
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oh and i forgot to add,  use a little talcum powder on the seams
after it dries completly (24 hours usually works).  I did a tarp
once and did not do that and it wanted to stick together whan i
folded it up. after about a year and several uses it got less sticky
though.

Coy Boy

--- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "Coy" <starnescr@y...> wrote:
> Sandy, for the slip resist dots full strenth may be ok.  for just
> plain old seam sealing mix the silicone with mineral spirits about
> 50/50 or even a little thiner depending on project.
>
> Coy Boy
>
>
> --- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, Sandy Kramer
> <sandykayak@y...> wrote:
> > now, that IS a good tip.  I just received a small tube of sil
> sealant but the larger should work out much cheaper...plus I need
> some for the kitchen counter tiles!!

Thanks Coy Boy.  All very good advice that I forgot to add.

Dick Matthews


Coy wrote:

>oh and i forgot to add,  use a little talcum powder on the seams
>after it dries completly (24 hours usually works).  I did a tarp
>once and did not do that and it wanted to stick together whan i
>folded it up. after about a year and several uses it got less sticky
>though.
>
>Coy Boy
>
>--- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "Coy" <starnescr@y...> wrote:
>
>
>>Sandy, for the slip resist dots full strenth may be ok.  for just
>>plain old seam sealing mix the silicone with mineral spirits about
>>50/50 or even a little thiner depending on project.
>>
>>Coy Boy
>>
>>
>>--- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, Sandy Kramer
>><sandykayak@y...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>now, that IS a good tip.  I just received a small tube of sil
>>>
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Whacked.

Shane

Hello!

I just finished an incredibly successful two week trip through the
mountains and coasts of Shikoku, Japan, and I`d like to take this
chance to thank everybody in this message group. My Hammock (HH
ulasym) became much more than just a shelter at the end of a day. It
rocked me to sleep, provided a writing chair, and not to mention
quick escape from rain (and rain there was. Everything from a happy
sun shower to gumball size drops of water). It was such a breeze
setting up everytime, that I no longer had to look for camp two ours
before sun down like I usually like to. I was so excited the first
few times I used it before I set out, and was sure that the novelty
would wear off once I had to do a rain setup after a 30km day, but I
found myself actually looking forward to pitching the hammock and
making camp- half of the fun of this shelter is working it into a
desired space. I`m so used to using a tent that I just figured that
the old square peg and round hole rule would apply with the hammock
as well. To my delight, the hammock seems to operate more like a
fluid than a solid- it will pretty much just conform to any place
you can string it up (and I was afraid this would be a problem- but
once you figure out how much distance you need, potential hammock
`anchors` are everywhere) and rock you gently to sleep OFF THE
GROUND! Once again thank you to all who have posted, asked
questions, answered questions, and especially those who have
speculated about hammocking possibilities. I think that my mobility
has almost doubled with this shelter, while cutting my shelter
weight in half!

everett

Evereet,  Did you do part of the route of the 88
Temples of Shikoku?

Bill in Texas

--- ekunitz <everettkunitz@...> wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I just finished an incredibly successful two week
> trip through the
> mountains and coasts of Shikoku, Japan, and I`d like
> to take this
> chance to thank everybody in this message group. My
> Hammock (HH
> ulasym) became much more than just a shelter at the
> end of a day. It
> rocked me to sleep, provided a writing chair, and
> not to mention
> quick escape from rain (and rain there was.
> Everything from a happy
> sun shower to gumball size drops of water). It was
> such a breeze
> setting up everytime, that I no longer had to look
> for camp two ours
> before sun down like I usually like to. I was so
> excited the first
> few times I used it before I set out, and was sure
> that the novelty
> would wear off once I had to do a rain setup after a
> 30km day, but I
> found myself actually looking forward to pitching
> the hammock and
> making camp- half of the fun of this shelter is
> working it into a
> desired space. I`m so used to using a tent that I
> just figured that
> the old square peg and round hole rule would apply
> with the hammock
> as well. To my delight, the hammock seems to operate
> more like a
> fluid than a solid- it will pretty much just conform
> to any place
> you can string it up (and I was afraid this would be
> a problem- but
> once you figure out how much distance you need,
> potential hammock
> `anchors` are everywhere) and rock you gently to
> sleep OFF THE
> GROUND! Once again thank you to all who have posted,
> asked
> questions, answered questions, and especially those
> who have
> speculated about hammocking possibilities. I think
> that my mobility
> has almost doubled with this shelter, while cutting
> my shelter
> weight in half!
>
> everett
>
>
>
>


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Yes, that exactly. Although, I deviated from the marked route as
much as possible- I didn`t feel like walking next to highways!
Although the 88 temples pilgrimage is really more of a walking
journey, it does involve some fairly difficult and overgrown
mountain paths and contending with the weather in Shikoku makes the
journey difficult enough! I completed my first leg of the circular
route, walking 330km from temple 1 to temple 29 (basically ending in
Kochi, at the first possible train station- there was a supposed 11
force typhoon on my heels).

everett

--- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, Bill Fornshell
<bfornshell@y...> wrote:
> Evereet,  Did you do part of the route of the 88
> Temples of Shikoku?
>
> Bill in Texas
>
> --- ekunitz <everettkunitz@h...> wrote:
>
> > Hello!
> >
> > I just finished an incredibly successful two week
> > trip through the
> > mountains and coasts of Shikoku, Japan, and I`d like
> > to take this
> > chance to thank everybody in this message group. My
> > Hammock (HH
> > ulasym) became much more than just a shelter at the
> > end of a day. It
> > rocked me to sleep, provided a writing chair, and
> > not to mention
> > quick escape from rain (and rain there was.
> > Everything from a happy
> > sun shower to gumball size drops of water). It was
> > such a breeze
> > setting up everytime, that I no longer had to look
> > for camp two ours
> > before sun down like I usually like to. I was so
> > excited the first
> > few times I used it before I set out, and was sure
> > that the novelty
> > would wear off once I had to do a rain setup after a
> > 30km day, but I
> > found myself actually looking forward to pitching
> > the hammock and
> > making camp- half of the fun of this shelter is
> > working it into a
> > desired space. I`m so used to using a tent that I
> > just figured that
> > the old square peg and round hole rule would apply
> > with the hammock
> > as well. To my delight, the hammock seems to operate
> > more like a
> > fluid than a solid- it will pretty much just conform
> > to any place
> > you can string it up (and I was afraid this would be
> > a problem- but
> > once you figure out how much distance you need,
> > potential hammock
> > `anchors` are everywhere) and rock you gently to
> > sleep OFF THE
> > GROUND! Once again thank you to all who have posted,
> > asked
> > questions, answered questions, and especially those
> > who have
> > speculated about hammocking possibilities. I think
> > that my mobility
> > has almost doubled with this shelter, while cutting
> > my shelter
> > weight in half!
> >
> > everett
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Hi Evereet,  A bunch of years ago I was referred to a
book called "Echoes of Incense, A Pilgrimage in Japan
by Don Weiss.  I really enjoyed the book.  It was
about the Shikoku 88 Temple Pilgrimage (walk).  The
author did it twice.  Once in the winter (1993) in
reverse order like as he says most  "Priest" do and
once during the spring same year.  I always thought I
would like to do it.

Last year I thought about a long AT hike.  I planned
my 88 Shelter Pilgrimage.  It turned out to be about
1200 Kilometers just like the Shikoku walk.  Springer
Mt to Catawba Mt Shelter 695.4 miles, 88 Shelters.

When will you go back for the next part?  Do you speak
Japanese?  Did you sleep out each night?

Bill in Texas


--- ekunitz <everettkunitz@...> wrote:

> Yes, that exactly. Although, I deviated from the
> marked route as
> much as possible- I didn`t feel like walking next to
> highways!
> Although the 88 temples pilgrimage is really more of
> a walking
> journey, it does involve some fairly difficult and
> overgrown
> mountain paths and contending with the weather in
> Shikoku makes the
> journey difficult enough! I completed my first leg
> of the circular
> route, walking 330km from temple 1 to temple 29
> (basically ending in
> Kochi, at the first possible train station- there
> was a supposed 11
> force typhoon on my heels).
>
> everett
>
> --- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, Bill
> Fornshell
> <bfornshell@y...> wrote:
> > Evereet,  Did you do part of the route of the 88
> > Temples of Shikoku?
> >
> > Bill in Texas
> >
> > --- ekunitz <everettkunitz@h...> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello!
> > >
> > > I just finished an incredibly successful two
> week
> > > trip through the
> > > mountains and coasts of Shikoku, Japan, and I`d
> like
> > > to take this
> > > chance to thank everybody in this message group.
> My
> > > Hammock (HH
> > > ulasym) became much more than just a shelter at
> the
> > > end of a day. It
> > > rocked me to sleep, provided a writing chair,
> and
> > > not to mention
> > > quick escape from rain (and rain there was.
> > > Everything from a happy
> > > sun shower to gumball size drops of water). It
> was
> > > such a breeze
> > > setting up everytime, that I no longer had to
> look
> > > for camp two ours
> > > before sun down like I usually like to. I was so
> > > excited the first
> > > few times I used it before I set out, and was
> sure
> > > that the novelty
> > > would wear off once I had to do a rain setup
> after a
> > > 30km day, but I
> > > found myself actually looking forward to
> pitching
> > > the hammock and
> > > making camp- half of the fun of this shelter is
> > > working it into a
> > > desired space. I`m so used to using a tent that
> I
> > > just figured that
> > > the old square peg and round hole rule would
> apply
> > > with the hammock
> > > as well. To my delight, the hammock seems to
> operate
> > > more like a
> > > fluid than a solid- it will pretty much just
> conform
> > > to any place
> > > you can string it up (and I was afraid this
> would be
> > > a problem- but
> > > once you figure out how much distance you need,
> > > potential hammock
> > > `anchors` are everywhere) and rock you gently to
> > > sleep OFF THE
> > > GROUND! Once again thank you to all who have
> posted,
> > > asked
> > > questions, answered questions, and especially
> those
> > > who have
> > > speculated about hammocking possibilities. I
> think
> > > that my mobility
> > > has almost doubled with this shelter, while
> cutting
> > > my shelter
> > > weight in half!
> > >
> > > everett

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--- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "ekunitz" <everettkunitz@h...>
wrote:
> I just finished an incredibly successful two week trip through the
> mountains and coasts of Shikoku, Japan, and I`d like to take this
> chance to thank everybody in this message group. My Hammock (HH
> ulasym) became much more than just a shelter at the end of a day.


What did the Japanese think of hammock camping?  Hopefully you'll
have taken pictures of this trip and will post an account/journal.
It'd be interesting to see.

Doug Frost

doug,

I unfortunately didn`t get any pictures whatsoever (I spent the last of
my money on the hammock (no joke), and the planned purchase of a
digital camera will have to wait). The hammock turned out to be quite a
conversation opener. If I was setting up camp somewhere inhabited, I
usally like to ask permission from the first person I meet. My Japanese
is horrible, but when I mention "Hammock", everybodys eyes got really
big. Most of the people who saw me setting up waited around until I
invited them to try it out- in my experience the Japanese love anything
new, gimmicky and even remotely useful. In fact, now that I think of
it, I was turned down a prime camping spot until I mentioned that I`d
be sleeping in a hammock and without making a fire. Turns out the guy
was a sailor who spoke some english. He talked about how he used to
have to sleep in a hammock in the big offshore fishing boats, stacked
like "sakana" (fish). He layed down for all of five secods in my HH,
and a smooth and heartfelt "sugoi!" (Amazing!) was all he had to say.
Not only did he tell me I was more than welcome to sleep there, but he
returned a bit later with some fruit from his wife`s garden. It was
then that I understood the true potential of the hammock...


everett

p.s.- I would love to be able to get my journal online, but I don`t
have anywhere to post. Where might one do that?

--- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "dlfrost_1" <dlfrost@a...> wrote:
> --- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "ekunitz" <everettkunitz@h...>
> wrote:
> > I just finished an incredibly successful two week trip through the
> > mountains and coasts of Shikoku, Japan, and I`d like to take this
> > chance to thank everybody in this message group. My Hammock (HH
> > ulasym) became much more than just a shelter at the end of a day.
>
>
> What did the Japanese think of hammock camping?  Hopefully you'll
> have taken pictures of this trip and will post an account/journal.
> It'd be interesting to see.
>
> Doug Frost

Bill,

I also read Mr. Weiss`s book, "Echoes of Inscence". I read it after
I`d decided that this was where I would be headed, and it was a
great primer for what to look out for. Unfortuatly, I couldn`t help
but feel slightly misled. While road walking is mentioned in the
book, I should warn anybody to expect at least 80% of the journey to
be paved. As I understand it, it wasn`t always this way, and in fact
many of today`s roadways follow the ancient routes path, but it is
roads none the less. With cars. And convenience stores. A benefit in
some ways, but it kind of completely destroys the whole esoteric
part of the walk. I`m not sure I would have undertaken the adventure
had I know this beforehand, but it is immpossible to get ahold of
anything like a guidebook or topographical maps of the area from
outside of Japan (where I planned as best I could without maps!) I
speak a smattering of Japanese, mostly profanity and I can name most
of what I ate. I hope.

I undertook this first section of the walk in "Nojuku" style, which
means sleeping outside unless offered shelter. Of the 13 days, I was
offered 3 accomadations, ranging from a bell tower in the entrance
gate of a temple to a cockroach infested all-night-prayer shack. I
much preferred my hammock. I tied my HH to anything I could find,
which included between a lampost and a pickup truck on a seawall,
between the supporting pillars of a "Torii" (those famous japanese
gateways) and in a bamboo thicket (I woke up in a rather saggy
hammock, and thought maybe I`d missed a hitch or something. To my
dismay, I discovered that both anchoring bamboo stalks (each must
have been at least 10cm in diameter) were bent over and almost
touching eachother. This was once I`d gotten OUT of the hammock.
Apparently Bamboo doesn`t really have firm routing. Let this be a
lesson to us all!). One night I tied up to what I thought was an
electrical pole and a tree. When it got dark out, it turns out that
I probably should have looked up and checked because I was stationed
directly under a lampost. Not so stealthy; which could be a bad idea
considering I was walking through a No Illegal camping area and had
already been stopped once by the police that day. Luckily I was only
woken up by a man practicing some sort of verbal and bodily taichi
next to me. I guess I must have been in his favorite spot, because
as I was packing up he kept casting nasty looks at between the
threatening looking jab motions he was making with his hands. But it
could have been just part of the excercise...

Everett

did it twice.  Once in the winter (1993) in
> reverse order like as he says most  "Priest" do and
> once during the spring same year.  I always thought I
> would like to do it.
>
> Last year I thought about a long AT hike.  I planned
> my 88 Shelter Pilgrimage.  It turned out to be about
> 1200 Kilometers just like the Shikoku walk.  Springer
> Mt to Catawba Mt Shelter 695.4 miles, 88 Shelters.
>
> When will you go back for the next part?  Do you speak
> Japanese?  Did you sleep out each night?
>
> Bill in Texas
>
>
> --- ekunitz <everettkunitz@h...> wrote:

> > Yes, that exactly. Although, I deviated from the
> > marked route as
> > much as possible- I didn`t feel like walking next to
> > highways!
> > Although the 88 temples pilgrimage is really more of
> > a walking
> > journey, it does involve some fairly difficult and
> > overgrown
> > mountain paths and contending with the weather in
> > Shikoku makes the
> > journey difficult enough! I completed my first leg
> > of the circular
> > route, walking 330km from temple 1 to temple 29
> > (basically ending in
> > Kochi, at the first possible train station- there
> > was a supposed 11
> > force typhoon on my heels).
> >
> > everett
> >
> > --- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, Bill
> > Fornshell
> > <bfornshell@y...> wrote:
> > > Evereet,  Did you do part of the route of the 88
> > > Temples of Shikoku?
> > >
> > > Bill in Texas
> > >
> > > --- ekunitz <everettkunitz@h...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello!
> > > >
> > > > I just finished an incredibly successful two
> > week
> > > > trip through the
> > > > mountains and coasts of Shikoku, Japan, and I`d
> > like
> > > > to take this
> > > > chance to thank everybody in this message group.
> > My
> > > > Hammock (HH
> > > > ulasym) became much more than just a shelter at
> > the
> > > > end of a day. It
> > > > rocked me to sleep, provided a writing chair,
> > and
> > > > not to mention
> > > > quick escape from rain (and rain there was.
> > > > Everything from a happy
> > > > sun shower to gumball size drops of water). It
> > was
> > > > such a breeze
> > > > setting up everytime, that I no longer had to
> > look
> > > > for camp two ours
> > > > before sun down like I usually like to. I was so
> > > > excited the first
> > > > few times I used it before I set out, and was
> > sure
> > > > that the novelty
> > > > would wear off once I had to do a rain setup
> > after a
> > > > 30km day, but I
> > > > found myself actually looking forward to
> > pitching
> > > > the hammock and
> > > > making camp- half of the fun of this shelter is
> > > > working it into a
> > > > desired space. I`m so used to using a tent that
> > I
> > > > just figured that
> > > > the old square peg and round hole rule would
> > apply
> > > > with the hammock
> > > > as well. To my delight, the hammock seems to
> > operate
> > > > more like a
> > > > fluid than a solid- it will pretty much just
> > conform
> > > > to any place
> > > > you can string it up (and I was afraid this
> > would be
> > > > a problem- but
> > > > once you figure out how much distance you need,
> > > > potential hammock
> > > > `anchors` are everywhere) and rock you gently to
> > > > sleep OFF THE
> > > > GROUND! Once again thank you to all who have
> > posted,
> > > > asked
> > > > questions, answered questions, and especially
> > those
> > > > who have
> > > > speculated about hammocking possibilities. I
> > think
> > > > that my mobility
> > > > has almost doubled with this shelter, while
> > cutting
> > > > my shelter
> > > > weight in half!
> > > >
> > > > everett
>
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i host some yahoo groups and there is a way for a poster to delete his/her own
post.

go to home page
click on messages
find the damning item
delete

of course, those of us getting individual emails WILL have received it.

sandy in miami who only suffered some lost trees and roof tiles post Katrina

jwj32542 <jwj32542@...> wrote:
Sorry...I've been getting a lot of emails over this and I didn't
realize this one was going to the list.  AAAARGH!!

Talk about letting the genie out of the bottle...I'm just not learning
today!  :)

Shane, please delete this, too...I didn't mean to send it to the list
either.

Knocking it off,

Jeff

--- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, J J <jwj32542@y...> wrote:
> Yeah...I sent him an email about that.  He said he just got confused
on
> the email addresses and wasn't implying anything about me.  Sure
looked
> like it to me.
>
> Damn...all this over a BGT review!
>
> --- RevT <brian.tannehill@g...> wrote:
>
> > Its the power......
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > >  Easy as pie.  I have a thing about spammers and cheats...





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--- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "ekunitz" <everettkunitz@h...>
wrote:
> I unfortunately didn`t get any pictures whatsoever (I spent the
last of
> my money on the hammock (no joke), and the planned purchase of a
> digital camera will have to wait).

You mean to tell me that you could not find a cheepie film camera
anywhere in Japan ?  ;-)  Darned shame tho...

> Not only did he tell me I was more than welcome to sleep there, but
he
> returned a bit later with some fruit from his wife`s garden. It was
> then that I understood the true potential of the hammock...

Hey, I'll have to try this... heh.

Doug Frost

Doug,

This trip was also my first experiment into the realm of the
lightweight. I was trying to leave EVERYTHING out of my pack. In
retrospect, I probably could have traded the four extra stakes I was
carrying for a disposable camera, as the stakes don`t really have
anything relevant to say about the trip (they didn`t once come out of
my pack). It is a darned shame I didn`t get any photos.
--- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "dlfrost_1" <dlfrost@a...> wrote:
> --- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "ekunitz" <everettkunitz@h...>
> wrote:
> > I unfortunately didn`t get any pictures whatsoever (I spent the
> last of
> > my money on the hammock (no joke), and the planned purchase of a
> > digital camera will have to wait).
>
> You mean to tell me that you could not find a cheepie film camera
> anywhere in Japan ?  ;-)  Darned shame tho...
>
> > Not only did he tell me I was more than welcome to sleep there, but
> he
> > returned a bit later with some fruit from his wife`s garden. It was
> > then that I understood the true potential of the hammock...
>
> Hey, I'll have to try this... heh.
>
> Doug Frost

Hi,
I tried a number of local (Tucson, AZ) hardware/lumber stores to buy a
relatively small amount of tyvek (10 ft.) but it was only sold in rolls
much longer than I needed. Anyone have suggestions ? Thanks.

Careful monitoring of dumpsters at new housing
development is my method. I've been too cheap to speak
to workers, but I'll bet that'd work also.
Woody in Washington, DC

--- mhrothery1 <mhrothery1@...> wrote:

> Hi,
> I tried a number of local (Tucson, AZ)
> hardware/lumber stores to buy a
> relatively small amount of tyvek (10 ft.) but it was
> only sold in rolls
> much longer than I needed. Anyone have suggestions ?
> Thanks.
>
>
>




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i just bought 10 yards of 1" webbing from wall mart. it`s grey &
looks (& cost ) same as risk shows on his test hammock. anyway, i`ve
been using 1" webbing i got from the local outfitters (seems to be a
little lighter weight). it goes from hammock to & around tree. a
couple times i used trees that were a little farther apart than normal
& had quite a bit of stretching going on. the new (slightly heaver)
webbing may not stretch as much if i find myself needing to use two
trees a little father apart, but i`m wondering if i could tye w/ more
distance if need be, w/ rope going from hammock to tree hugger & have
less stretch than webbing?  and if so what size/type rope would yall
suggest?   thanks...slowhike

--- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "slowhike" <slowhike@y...>
wrote:
>   i just bought 10 yards of 1" webbing from wall mart. it`s grey &
> looks (& cost ) same as risk shows on his test hammock. anyway,
i`ve
> been using 1" webbing i got from the local outfitters (seems to be
a
> little lighter weight). it goes from hammock to & around tree. a
> couple times i used trees that were a little farther apart than
normal
> & had quite a bit of stretching going on. the new (slightly heaver)
> webbing may not stretch as much if i find myself needing to use two
> trees a little father apart, but i`m wondering if i could tye w/
more
> distance if need be, w/ rope going from hammock to tree hugger &
have
> less stretch than webbing?  and if so what size/type rope would
yall
> suggest?   thanks...slowhike

The poly webbing you got at WalMart should stretch out to it's final
length after the first few hangings and stay that way.  Nylon webbing
will stretch gradually throughout the night and then recover after
you exit the hammock ("memory stretch").  Which is why we avoid
nylon.  (It's also heavier.)

Lots of folks are using the Spectra line along with straps just long
enough to get around the most common trees in their areas.  It sets
up pretty much like the Hennessey.  Garlington's Silk Hammock page
shows one example.
http://www.garlington.biz/Ray/SilkHammock/

Keep in mind that the farther away the trees are from the hammock the
higher up on the trunk you'll be tying the straps in order to
maintain the same hanging angle.  So how high you can practically
reach imposes a limit there.

Doug Frost

doug... good info & i hadn`t seen ray`s photos.  yep i was begining to think
that i would have less stretching w/ webbing just serving as tree huggers & rope
to hammock. and i`m glad to hear that the poly webbing will stretch less. what
size spectra rope do most people use?    thanks...slowhike

dlfrost_1 <dlfrost@...> wrote:--- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com,
"slowhike" <slowhike@y...>
wrote:
>   i just bought 10 yards of 1" webbing from wall mart. it`s grey &
> looks (& cost ) same as risk shows on his test hammock. anyway,
i`ve
> been using 1" webbing i got from the local outfitters (seems to be
a
> little lighter weight). it goes from hammock to & around tree. a
> couple times i used trees that were a little farther apart than
normal
> & had quite a bit of stretching going on. the new (slightly heaver)
> webbing may not stretch as much if i find myself needing to use two
> trees a little father apart, but i`m wondering if i could tye w/
more
> distance if need be, w/ rope going from hammock to tree hugger &
have
> less stretch than webbing?  and if so what size/type rope would
yall
> suggest?   thanks...slowhike

The poly webbing you got at WalMart should stretch out to it's final
length after the first few hangings and stay that way.  Nylon webbing
will stretch gradually throughout the night and then recover after
you exit the hammock ("memory stretch").  Which is why we avoid
nylon.  (It's also heavier.)

Lots of folks are using the Spectra line along with straps just long
enough to get around the most common trees in their areas.  It sets
up pretty much like the Hennessey.  Garlington's Silk Hammock page
shows one example.
http://www.garlington.biz/Ray/SilkHammock/

Keep in mind that the farther away the trees are from the hammock the
higher up on the trunk you'll be tying the straps in order to
maintain the same hanging angle.  So how high you can practically
reach imposes a limit there.

Doug Frost






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--- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, tim garner <slowhike@y...>
wrote:
>  what size spectra rope do most people use?

You'd like to use something that has a tensile strength greater than
about 1000 pounds.  with spectra line, or equivalent, that is
something greater than 2mm.  3mm cord gets you about 1600 pounds of
tensile strength, which is about the size used on most of the
Hennessey hammocks.

www.questoutfitters.com

about $5-6/yd

woody woodrich <fatherrules@...> wrote:
Careful monitoring of dumpsters at new housing
development is my method. I've been too cheap to speak
to workers, but I'll bet that'd work also.
Woody in Washington, DC

--- mhrothery1 <mhrothery1@...> wrote:

> Hi,
> I tried a number of local (Tucson, AZ)
> hardware/lumber stores to buy a
> relatively small amount of tyvek (10 ft.) but it was
> only sold in rolls
> much longer than I needed. Anyone have suggestions ?
> Thanks.
>
>
>




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--- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "Ray Garlington"
<rgarling@y...> wrote:
> --- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, tim garner <slowhike@y...>
> wrote:
> >  what size spectra rope do most people use?
>
> You'd like to use something that has a tensile strength greater than
> about 1000 pounds.  with spectra line, or equivalent, that is
> something greater than 2mm.  3mm cord gets you about 1600 pounds of
> tensile strength, which is about the size used on most of the
> Hennessey
hammocks.
       thanks ray   ...slowhike

From: "dlfrost_1" <dlfrost@...>
> Subject: Re: hammock hanging question
  poly webbing WalMart stretch final > length and stay
that> way.

i get 'come along' with web and ratchet in
different sizes, cheapo at walmart - easier
to tighten than untie and tie etc






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From: "dlfrost_1" <dlfrost@...>
> Subject: Re: hammock hanging question

  > http://www.garlington.biz/Ray/SilkHammock/

i clicked and read yours as to build hammock,
many thanks for info well presented,,,, if you
ever open a club or the like, pls put me on
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Thanks to all who responded. I stumbled on following site as another
option for purchasing: http://www.geocities.com/amytys/Tyvek.htm

thanks...i need to buy a bunch to cover my kayaks and one is 15' long!!

mhrothery1 <mhrothery1@...> wrote:Thanks to all who responded. I stumbled
on following site as another
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Anyone heard from Shane? I know we have a couple of other members in
the area hit by the hurricane. Anyone know if they are okay?

Shane and his family are with family in Houston, still unclear about the
status of his house
Ralph


  On 8/31/05, Lenny Nichols <lnichols@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone heard from Shane? I know we have a couple of other members in
> the area hit by the hurricane. Anyone know if they are okay?
>
>


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--- In hammockcamping@yahoogroups.com, "Ray Garlington"
<rgarling@y...> wrote:
> You'd like to use something that has a tensile strength greater
than
> about 1000 pounds.  with spectra line, or equivalent, that is
> something greater than 2mm.  3mm cord gets you about 1600 pounds of
> tensile strength, which is about the size used on most of the
> Hennessey hammocks.

Been meaning to ask you a question about your silk hammock...  Is
silk any more prone to absorbing moisture than nylon or poly?  Now
that you've been using it a while, how's it holding up to wear and
tear?

Doug Frost