Hello Everyone!

Greetings!

Please,do you know where is Justin's site Pharaoh Vodka, or any mirror of it?
Seems to be no more at
http://www.geocities.com/aupyramid/aup.html
or at
http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/undergsci/

Thank you very much!

Renato

I don't know if Justin is still monitoring this group but it
looks like he took down his main website too:
   http://www.geocities.com/undergsci/
Now it just references this group.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org

Renato Cezar wrote:
> Hello Everyone!
>
> Greetings!
>
> Please,do you know where is Justin's site Pharaoh Vodka, or any mirror of it?
Seems to be no more at
> http://www.geocities.com/aupyramid/aup.html
> or at
> http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/undergsci/
>
> Thank you very much!
>
> Renato

I took my site down a while ago because I was no longer happy with it and I do
not have the time to properly manage the site and deal with the emails it
attracts.

I am still unsure if the Pyramid method is generating tiny amounts of ormes or
if it is a imprinting process. I have been able to get a super thin oil film but
never the white powder some claimed to have generated.

If you have any questions email me, this group is not really for discussing
pyramid energy.

Justin


--- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com, "Renato Cezar" <renlac10@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone!
>
> Greetings!
>
> Please,do you know where is Justin's site Pharaoh Vodka, or any mirror of it?
Seems to be no more at
> http://www.geocities.com/aupyramid/aup.html
> or at
> http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/undergsci/
>
> Thank you very much!
>
> Renato
>

Thank you very much, Steve and Justin!

hi group.

"if i were able to secure a large/sizable grant"--george, this
part makes me really worried. it makes me to speculate on things.
please, please dont take out any kind
of a loan against licensing the discoveries or working prototypes.
this road can give results fast, but in the end no one will be happy.
dont get me wrong, i really appreciate the initiative and please forgive me if i
may sound too negative here! i dont intend to, i just
gave a lot of thought on a similar idea and i have arrived at a few key points.
money and licensing go hand in hand. before i would even dare to
realise such a feature i would study for a long time how the major
open source projects keep themselves afloat. why? because they have results that
truly satisfies the people on the bottom of the chain and
they dont answer to a ruling power except the satisfaction of their users.
whoever makes such efforts hase to make sure that the licensing under they
operate are truly, truly is in the best interest of every individual in the
universe (not just planet erath, in other words it gives people knowledge
therefore elevating their consciousness so that they be able to use this as they
intended) and that how they handle funds is allways transparent, smart, aiding
the physical realisation of their ideas while at the same time if funds are gone
the gained knowledge is still available to everyone.
i stop here and apologise once more for disturbing the buzz, i really want this
to happen!
but in a smart way. i mean, a very, very smart way.
regards
greg

----- Original Message -----

From: tonytetryl

To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:57 AM

Subject: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??

 

hi group.

"if i were able to secure a large/sizable grant"--george, this
part makes me really worried. it makes me to speculate on things.
please, please dont take out any kind
of a loan against licensing the discoveries or working prototypes.
this road can give results fast, but in the end no one will be happy.
dont get me wrong, i really appreciate the initiative and please forgive me if i may sound too negative here! i dont intend to, i just
gave a lot of thought on a similar idea and i have arrived at a few key points.
money and licensing go hand in hand. before i would even dare to
realise such a feature i would study for a long time how the major
open source projects keep themselves afloat. why? because they have results that truly satisfies the people on the bottom of the chain and
they dont answer to a ruling power except the satisfaction of their users.
whoever makes such efforts hase to make sure that the licensing under they operate are truly, truly is in the best interest of every individual in the universe (not just planet erath, in other words it gives people knowledge therefore elevating their consciousness so that they be able to use this as they intended) and that how they handle funds is allways transparent, smart, aiding the physical realisation of their ideas while at the same time if funds are gone the gained knowledge is still available to everyone.
i stop here and apologise once more for disturbing the buzz, i really want this to happen!
but in a smart way. i mean, a very, very smart way.
regards
greg

----- Original Message -----

From: Jon C. Munson II

To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:44 AM

Subject: RE: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??

 

A restructuring of the economy is indeed underway (the collapses you are seeing are symptoms of such) – there is still further to go.  You are on the right track with the “for the love of it” part – moving forward, the licensing/greed will not fly.

Stay “pure” in intent, etc., and your venture will ultimately succeed, even though in the short term it may appear otherwise (due to the ongoing mandatory changes).

Peace, Love, and Light,

Jon C. Munson II

"And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible." [Mark 10:27; KJV]

I sign "Peace, Love, and Light" for at least two reasons.  First, it is my truest desire for this planet and her people to live in Peace, with Love, and in the Light of God.  Second, to be an Ascended Master, one must Be.  As I wish to Be an Ascended Master (someday if not sooner), I must also Be - thus I choose to Be Peace, Love, and Light as much as I can for everyone and am therefore reflecting those thoughts to you.

From: hameltech@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hameltech@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George Pantos
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:25 AM
To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??

 

yep. i agree that's why i was holding off.. but realistically to do this funding might be needed.. as far as licensing goes, i have no idea, first of all somebody will have to make this like GM makes cars so unless u want to restructure the way our whole economic system is based then i think somewhere down the line money and licensing will be involved.. like i said i want no part of this, unfortunately we would probably have to have some lawyers involved who i don't always like to deal with.. hopefully some of u guys will help me with this part.. i mean it is a group effort, and some chores would need to be done on a time to time basis. as for the grant, that is my secret.. i might be able to pull it off in a manner that i am comfortable with..

----- Original Message -----

From: tonytetryl

To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:57 AM

Subject: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??

 

hi group.

"if i were able to secure a large/sizable grant"--george, this
part makes me really worried. it makes me to speculate on things.
please, please dont take out any kind
of a loan against licensing the discoveries or working prototypes.
this road can give results fast, but in the end no one will be happy.
dont get me wrong, i really appreciate the initiative and please forgive me if i may sound too negative here! i dont intend to, i just
gave a lot of thought on a similar idea and i have arrived at a few key points.
money and licensing go hand in hand. before i would even dare to
realise such a feature i would study for a long time how the major
open source projects keep themselves afloat. why? because they have results that truly satisfies the people on the bottom of the chain and
they dont answer to a ruling power except the satisfaction of their users.
whoever makes such efforts hase to make sure that the licensing under they operate are truly, truly is in the best interest of every individual in the universe (not just planet erath, in other words it gives people knowledge therefore elevating their consciousness so that they be able to use this as they intended) and that how they handle funds is allways transparent, smart, aiding the physical realisation of their ideas while at the same time if funds are gone the gained knowledge is still available to everyone.
i stop here and apologise once more for disturbing the buzz, i really want this to happen!
but in a smart way. i mean, a very, very smart way.
regards
greg

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike

To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:58 AM

Subject: RE: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??

 

Hi Greg,

            Thank you for your insight, I also am aware of all the shortfalls, been there, got fingers burnt!

I do have an HONEST investor as a very good friend, who will give / support for the benefit of all mankind!

There is only one very big hurdle, which he and I have learnt through losses to Charlatans!

IF you cannot demonstrate any working device, on neutral territory, then the answer will be ‘Sorry……..!’

Proceeding to the “entrepreneur” level, the greater the risk, the less you will be able to retain, and usually, in any unprovable situation, will want part of your hide before you start!

IF you can find a ‘charitable’ millionaire, who GIVES freely without wanting any share for himself, then you are indeed blessed.

They DO exist, but most have given money to fraudsters, and are reluctant to give more!

SO, is the group as a whole able to demonstrate at least one inexplicable ‘event?’

I spent a considerable amount of time many years ago, and got NOTHING, however, I believe David Hamel implicitly!

It’s a great pity that David chose NOT to teach how to do & correcting mistakes. Now I have to place the works of David in the same category as keeley, even after 100 years, none can reproduce!

It would be very nice to be proven wrong!!!

Mike.

Mike. J. Furness

---

From: hameltech@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hameltech@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tonytetryl
Sent: 25 August 2009 10:57
To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??

 

hi group.

"if i were able to secure a large/sizable grant"--george, this
part makes me really worried. it makes me to speculate on things.
please, please dont take out any kind
of a loan against licensing the discoveries or working prototypes.
this road can give results fast, but in the end no one will be happy.
dont get me wrong, i really appreciate the initiative and please forgive me if i may sound too negative here! i dont intend to, i just
gave a lot of thought on a similar idea and i have arrived at a few key points.
money and licensing go hand in hand. before i would even dare to
realise such a feature i would study for a long time how the major
open source projects keep themselves afloat. why? because they have results that truly satisfies the people on the bottom of the chain and
they dont answer to a ruling power except the satisfaction of their users.
whoever makes such efforts hase to make sure that the licensing under they operate are truly, truly is in the best interest of every individual in the universe (not just planet erath, in other words it gives people knowledge therefore elevating their consciousness so that they be able to use this as they intended) and that how they handle funds is allways transparent, smart, aiding the physical realisation of their ideas while at the same time if funds are gone the gained knowledge is still available to everyone.
i stop here and apologise once more for disturbing the buzz, i really want this to happen!
but in a smart way. i mean, a very, very smart way.
regards
greg

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----- Original Message -----

From: George Pantos

To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:20 AM

Subject: Re: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??

 

to quote George (jack nicholson from Easy Rider..) "i got a helmet alright, one doozy of one.."

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike

To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:58 AM

Subject: RE: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??

 

Hi Greg,

            Thank you for your insight, I also am aware of all the shortfalls, been there, got fingers burnt!

I do have an HONEST investor as a very good friend, who will give / support for the benefit of all mankind!

There is only one very big hurdle, which he and I have learnt through losses to Charlatans!

IF you cannot demonstrate any working device, on neutral territory, then the answer will be ‘Sorry……..!’

Proceeding to the “entrepreneur” level, the greater the risk, the less you will be able to retain, and usually, in any unprovable situation, will want part of your hide before you start!

IF you can find a ‘charitable’ millionaire, who GIVES freely without wanting any share for himself, then you are indeed blessed.

They DO exist, but most have given money to fraudsters, and are reluctant to give more!

SO, is the group as a whole able to demonstrate at least one inexplicable ‘event?’

I spent a considerable amount of time many years ago, and got NOTHING, however, I believe David Hamel implicitly!

It’s a great pity that David chose NOT to teach how to do & correcting mistakes. Now I have to place the works of David in the same category as keeley, even after 100 years, none can reproduce!

It would be very nice to be proven wrong!!!

Mike.

Mike. J. Furness

---

From: hameltech@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hameltech@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tonytetryl
Sent: 25 August 2009 10:57
To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??

 

hi group.

"if i were able to secure a large/sizable grant"--george, this
part makes me really worried. it makes me to speculate on things.
please, please dont take out any kind
of a loan against licensing the discoveries or working prototypes.
this road can give results fast, but in the end no one will be happy.
dont get me wrong, i really appreciate the initiative and please forgive me if i may sound too negative here! i dont intend to, i just
gave a lot of thought on a similar idea and i have arrived at a few key points.
money and licensing go hand in hand. before i would even dare to
realise such a feature i would study for a long time how the major
open source projects keep themselves afloat. why? because they have results that truly satisfies the people on the bottom of the chain and
they dont answer to a ruling power except the satisfaction of their users.
whoever makes such efforts hase to make sure that the licensing under they operate are truly, truly is in the best interest of every individual in the universe (not just planet erath, in other words it gives people knowledge therefore elevating their consciousness so that they be able to use this as they intended) and that how they handle funds is allways transparent, smart, aiding the physical realisation of their ideas while at the same time if funds are gone the gained knowledge is still available to everyone.
i stop here and apologise once more for disturbing the buzz, i really want this to happen!
but in a smart way. i mean, a very, very smart way.
regards
greg

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----- Original Message -----

From: Jon C. Munson II

To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:16 AM

Subject: RE: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??

 

NOTE:  I did NOT say there would be a total economic collapse, now did I?

Re-read what I said and think it over again.  You are a smart cookie.

The Higher Powers are aware of the situation – that’s all that needs saying.

Have faith and soldier on…

If I were local to the Detroit area, I’d pitch in what help I could, so, yes, there’s definitely interest.

Peace, Love, and Light,

Jon C. Munson II

"And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible." [Mark 10:27; KJV]

I sign "Peace, Love, and Light" for at least two reasons.  First, it is my truest desire for this planet and her people to live in Peace, with Love, and in the Light of God.  Second, to be an Ascended Master, one must Be.  As I wish to Be an Ascended Master (someday if not sooner), I must also Be - thus I choose to Be Peace, Love, and Light as much as I can for everyone and am therefore reflecting those thoughts to you.

From: hameltech@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hameltech@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George Pantos
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:17 AM
To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??

 

no no no that is unrealistic.. first of all if we have energy that is pennies on the dollar the economy won't collapse.. and if u want a great depression.. then u have no idea what u're talking about..  i won't go on.. i just want to know if i there is an interest out there in creating a center/facility here in detroit, and if some of u all who a have a passion for this want to participate and try out your ideas with proper funding..  if we work off eachother perhaps each of our contributions will make this succeed.. a mini manhattan project if u so will..  done without minimal outside interference..

----- Original Message -----

From: Jon C. Munson II

To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:44 AM

Subject: RE: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??

 

A restructuring of the economy is indeed underway (the collapses you are seeing are symptoms of such) – there is still further to go.  You are on the right track with the “for the love of it” part – moving forward, the licensing/greed will not fly.

Stay “pure” in intent, etc., and your venture will ultimately succeed, even though in the short term it may appear otherwise (due to the ongoing mandatory changes).

Peace, Love, and Light,

Jon C. Munson II

"And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible." [Mark 10:27; KJV]

I sign "Peace, Love, and Light" for at least two reasons.  First, it is my truest desire for this planet and her people to live in Peace, with Love, and in the Light of God.  Second, to be an Ascended Master, one must Be.  As I wish to Be an Ascended Master (someday if not sooner), I must also Be - thus I choose to Be Peace, Love, and Light as much as I can for everyone and am therefore reflecting those thoughts to you.

From: hameltech@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hameltech@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George Pantos
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:25 AM
To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??

 

yep. i agree that's why i was holding off.. but realistically to do this funding might be needed.. as far as licensing goes, i have no idea, first of all somebody will have to make this like GM makes cars so unless u want to restructure the way our whole economic system is based then i think somewhere down the line money and licensing will be involved.. like i said i want no part of this, unfortunately we would probably have to have some lawyers involved who i don't always like to deal with.. hopefully some of u guys will help me with this part.. i mean it is a group effort, and some chores would need to be done on a time to time basis. as for the grant, that is my secret.. i might be able to pull it off in a manner that i am comfortable with..

----- Original Message -----

From: tonytetryl

To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:57 AM

Subject: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??

 

hi group.

"if i were able to secure a large/sizable grant"--george, this
part makes me really worried. it makes me to speculate on things.
please, please dont take out any kind
of a loan against licensing the discoveries or working prototypes.
this road can give results fast, but in the end no one will be happy.
dont get me wrong, i really appreciate the initiative and please forgive me if i may sound too negative here! i dont intend to, i just
gave a lot of thought on a similar idea and i have arrived at a few key points.
money and licensing go hand in hand. before i would even dare to
realise such a feature i would study for a long time how the major
open source projects keep themselves afloat. why? because they have results that truly satisfies the people on the bottom of the chain and
they dont answer to a ruling power except the satisfaction of their users.
whoever makes such efforts hase to make sure that the licensing under they operate are truly, truly is in the best interest of every individual in the universe (not just planet erath, in other words it gives people knowledge therefore elevating their consciousness so that they be able to use this as they intended) and that how they handle funds is allways transparent, smart, aiding the physical realisation of their ideas while at the same time if funds are gone the gained knowledge is still available to everyone.
i stop here and apologise once more for disturbing the buzz, i really want this to happen!
but in a smart way. i mean, a very, very smart way.
regards
greg

----- Original Message -----

From: Jon C. Munson II

To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:37 AM

Subject: RE: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??

 

George, where “we” as a People, are going, there will eventually be no need for any money, period.  I’m not sure when that is going to happen, but it will.  I’m personally hoping within my lifetime if it isn’t already around the corner (the Divine does not give hard timelines of course).  In the meantime, steps are being taken to transition from the “greed” based economy (currently, um, running) to that based more on “need/love.”  Again, the stuff you see going on is all part of that transitional period.  Earth has requested this, and “the people” have chimed in their desire as well.  The Divine is therefore answering and you are witnessing the product of the Answer.

Your project may very well be one of those transitional projects that gets us further down the path – so don’t give up on it.

Relative to your question however, in my particular case I cannot relocate – too tied to this area unfortunately.  If I were local, I wouldn’t necessarily need to be “paid” per se is what I meant by my reply.

Peace, Love, and Light,

Jon C. Munson II

"And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible." [Mark 10:27; KJV]

I sign "Peace, Love, and Light" for at least two reasons.  First, it is my truest desire for this planet and her people to live in Peace, with Love, and in the Light of God.  Second, to be an Ascended Master, one must Be.  As I wish to Be an Ascended Master (someday if not sooner), I must also Be - thus I choose to Be Peace, Love, and Light as much as I can for everyone and am therefore reflecting those thoughts to you.

From: hameltech@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hameltech@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George Pantos
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:29 AM
To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??

 

yeah the higher powers are aware of the situation.. that's what i attempting to resolve.. yes that is part of the deal a move to detroit.. that is why people will be paid, so they can support themselves while they are here.. otherwise if it could be done every one would be a volunteer..

----- Original Message -----

From: Jon C. Munson II

To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:16 AM

Subject: RE: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??

 

NOTE:  I did NOT say there would be a total economic collapse, now did I?

Re-read what I said and think it over again.  You are a smart cookie.

The Higher Powers are aware of the situation – that’s all that needs saying.

Have faith and soldier on…

If I were local to the Detroit area, I’d pitch in what help I could, so, yes, there’s definitely interest.

Peace, Love, and Light,

Jon C. Munson II

"And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible." [Mark 10:27; KJV]

I sign "Peace, Love, and Light" for at least two reasons.  First, it is my truest desire for this planet and her people to live in Peace, with Love, and in the Light of God.  Second, to be an Ascended Master, one must Be.  As I wish to Be an Ascended Master (someday if not sooner), I must also Be - thus I choose to Be Peace, Love, and Light as much as I can for everyone and am therefore reflecting those thoughts to you.

From: hameltech@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hameltech@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George Pantos
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:17 AM
To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??

 

no no no that is unrealistic.. first of all if we have energy that is pennies on the dollar the economy won't collapse.. and if u want a great depression.. then u have no idea what u're talking about..  i won't go on.. i just want to know if i there is an interest out there in creating a center/facility here in detroit, and if some of u all who a have a passion for this want to participate and try out your ideas with proper funding..  if we work off eachother perhaps each of our contributions will make this succeed.. a mini manhattan project if u so will..  done without minimal outside interference..

----- Original Message -----

From: Jon C. Munson II

To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:44 AM

Subject: RE: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??

 

A restructuring of the economy is indeed underway (the collapses you are seeing are symptoms of such) – there is still further to go.  You are on the right track with the “for the love of it” part – moving forward, the licensing/greed will not fly.

Stay “pure” in intent, etc., and your venture will ultimately succeed, even though in the short term it may appear otherwise (due to the ongoing mandatory changes).

Peace, Love, and Light,

Jon C. Munson II

"And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible." [Mark 10:27; KJV]

I sign "Peace, Love, and Light" for at least two reasons.  First, it is my truest desire for this planet and her people to live in Peace, with Love, and in the Light of God.  Second, to be an Ascended Master, one must Be.  As I wish to Be an Ascended Master (someday if not sooner), I must also Be - thus I choose to Be Peace, Love, and Light as much as I can for everyone and am therefore reflecting those thoughts to you.

From: hameltech@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hameltech@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George Pantos
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:25 AM
To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??

 

yep. i agree that's why i was holding off.. but realistically to do this funding might be needed... as far as licensing goes, i have no idea, first of all somebody will have to make this like GM makes cars so unless u want to restructure the way our whole economic system is based then i think somewhere down the line money and licensing will be involved.. like i said i want no part of this, unfortunately we would probably have to have some lawyers involved who i don't always like to deal with.. hopefully some of u guys will help me with this part.. i mean it is a group effort, and some chores would need to be done on a time to time basis. as for the grant, that is my secret.. i might be able to pull it off in a manner that i am comfortable with..

----- Original Message -----

From: tonytetryl

To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:57 AM

Subject: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??

 

hi group.

"if i were able to secure a large/sizable grant"--george, this
part makes me really worried. it makes me to speculate on things.
please, please dont take out any kind
of a loan against licensing the discoveries or working prototypes.
this road can give results fast, but in the end no one will be happy.
dont get me wrong, i really appreciate the initiative and please forgive me if i may sound too negative here! i dont intend to, i just
gave a lot of thought on a similar idea and i have arrived at a few key points.
money and licensing go hand in hand. before i would even dare to
realise such a feature i would study for a long time how the major
open source projects keep themselves afloat. why? because they have results that truly satisfies the people on the bottom of the chain and
they dont answer to a ruling power except the satisfaction of their users.
whoever makes such efforts hase to make sure that the licensing under they operate are truly, truly is in the best interest of every individual in the universe (not just planet erath, in other words it gives people knowledge therefore elevating their consciousness so that they be able to use this as they intended) and that how they handle funds is allways transparent, smart, aiding the physical realisation of their ideas while at the same time if funds are gone the gained knowledge is still available to everyone.
i stop here and apologise once more for disturbing the buzz, i really want this to happen!
but in a smart way. i mean, a very, very smart way.
regards
greg

Group,
When you get this straight,

Religion is the study of  Light   and
Science is the study of religion

;) and no kidding

Dell

Dan LaRochelle wrote:
>
> Jaro,
>
> Death of Religion and Technology?  I don't think so....!
>
> Until you can do the things that Jesus did _in front of multitudes_,
> you should not pretend to be in the know.
>
> "Those who believe in nothing, will believe in anything"!
>
> Religion is real and has been real since all times.
> No amount of new-age, old-age gooblygook is going to explain religion
> away.
>
> Unless you can do the same things as Jesus did, you need to express
> your writings as just your simple plain old opinion.
> Nothing more.....it just your opinion.
>
> It's my opinion that you know nothing about religion and thus believe
> anything that comes along all the while flip-flopping your beliefs as
> every hour changes.
> So, read another new-age gooblygook book and change your opinion
> again.  You're good at it!
>
> Good day,
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> Transworld2 wrote:
>
>> Well folks, the death of religion is upon us. It'll happen suddenly
>> within the
>> next few years. Why? Because even as we speak there are thousands of
>> people who
>> can heal the same way Jesus did. And very soon they'll figure out
>> that they can
>> use the same technique to turn water into wine, or walk on water.
>>
>> Jesus was considered a Deity because of his miracles, but when
>> thousands of people
>> worldwide start making the same miracles, even the masses will
>> realize that he was
>> nothing special. I mean who'd want to worship someone who's no more
>> powerful than
>> your neighbor?
>>
>> And of course, it'll be the death of technology too. I mean who'd
>> want to drive or
>> go by plane when you'll have the ability to teleport yourself
>> anywhere you like?
>> So guys, you can pretty much forget about antigravity too, since
>> people who can
>> directly control matter, don't need no machines or spaceships.
>>
>> BTW, creating miracles (like Jesus did), is really nothing special,
>> it is a
>> TECHNIQUE. Now that doesn't mean that everyone can use it, but those
>> who are more
>> spiritual will be able to use it most effectively. So Mankind is
>> coming of age and
>> we are about to experience the Age of miracles.
>>
>> Now the reason why I'm so sure about this, is because I now
>> understand how the
>> technique for creating miracles works. And like I said, it's being
>> used already,
>> mainly for healing. One of main proponents of this is Dr. Bartlett
>> who's website
>> is:
>>
>> http://www.matrixenergetics.com/ <http://www.matrixenergetics.com/>
>>
>> I've just analyzed the principles on which it works, and realized
>> that it can be
>> used for more than just healing, and soon will be used that way. Oh,
>> and thanks to
>> Kenny, who's story about the She-God turned me towards this, when I
>> was analyzing
>> Her instructions for teleportation.
>>
>> Jaro
>>
>
>

Hi Everyone

What is the argument here ? God (and Jesus) are spirits and
we have spirtis - anyone of us who "links" to our spirit
bodies in this world has these supernatural abilities.
Problem is we lost it when falling into sin via Adam. So,
there is nothing "fancy" about this, in fact, the sorcerers
of Farao did these things eons ago.  This will not change
the fact that JESUS IS ALIVE !

Blessings.

On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:07:02 -0600
  PICO TECH <picotech9999@...> wrote:
> Group,
> When you get this straight,
>
> Religion is the study of  Light   and
> Science is the study of religion
>
> ;) and no kidding
>
> Dell
>
> Dan LaRochelle wrote:
> >
> > Jaro,
> >
> > Death of Religion and Technology?  I don't think
> so....!
> >
> > Until you can do the things that Jesus did _in front of
> multitudes_,
> > you should not pretend to be in the know.
> >
> > "Those who believe in nothing, will believe in
> anything"!
> >
> > Religion is real and has been real since all times.
> > No amount of new-age, old-age gooblygook is going to
> explain religion
> > away.
> >
> > Unless you can do the same things as Jesus did, you
> need to express
> > your writings as just your simple plain old opinion.
> > Nothing more.....it just your opinion.
> >
> > It's my opinion that you know nothing about religion
> and thus believe
> > anything that comes along all the while flip-flopping
> your beliefs as
> > every hour changes.
> > So, read another new-age gooblygook book and change
> your opinion
> > again.  You're good at it!
> >
> > Good day,
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> > Transworld2 wrote:
> >
> >> Well folks, the death of religion is upon us. It'll
> happen suddenly
> >> within the
> >> next few years. Why? Because even as we speak there
> are thousands of
> >> people who
> >> can heal the same way Jesus did. And very soon they'll
> figure out
> >> that they can
> >> use the same technique to turn water into wine, or
> walk on water.
> >>
> >> Jesus was considered a Deity because of his miracles,
> but when
> >> thousands of people
> >> worldwide start making the same miracles, even the
> masses will
> >> realize that he was
> >> nothing special. I mean who'd want to worship someone
> who's no more
> >> powerful than
> >> your neighbor?
> >>
> >> And of course, it'll be the death of technology too. I
> mean who'd
> >> want to drive or
> >> go by plane when you'll have the ability to teleport
> yourself
> >> anywhere you like?
> >> So guys, you can pretty much forget about antigravity
> too, since
> >> people who can
> >> directly control matter, don't need no machines or
> spaceships.
> >>
> >> BTW, creating miracles (like Jesus did), is really
> nothing special,
> >> it is a
> >> TECHNIQUE. Now that doesn't mean that everyone can use
> it, but those
> >> who are more
> >> spiritual will be able to use it most effectively. So
> Mankind is
> >> coming of age and
> >> we are about to experience the Age of miracles.
> >>
> >> Now the reason why I'm so sure about this, is because
> I now
> >> understand how the
> >> technique for creating miracles works. And like I
> said, it's being
> >> used already,
> >> mainly for healing. One of main proponents of this is
> Dr. Bartlett
> >> who's website
> >> is:
> >>
> >> http://www.matrixenergetics.com/
> <http://www.matrixenergetics.com/>
> >>
> >> I've just analyzed the principles on which it works,
> and realized
> >> that it can be
> >> used for more than just healing, and soon will be used
> that way. Oh,
> >> and thanks to
> >> Kenny, who's story about the She-God turned me towards
> this, when I
> >> was analyzing
> >> Her instructions for teleportation.
> >>
> >> Jaro
> >>
> >
> >



________________________________________________________________________________\
_______
“EAST RAND SECURITY EXPO NOW ON”


http://www.swiftsms.co.za/swiftT/track.asp?e=*em*&cid=113&u=8&tid=2011

Jon
We already have one since 1933 -- just get rid on the middle-man and
tell folks how to use it. ;)

Dell


Jon C. Munson II wrote:
>
> George, where “we” as a People, are going, there will eventually be no
> need for any money, period. I’m not sure when that is going to happen,
> but it will. I’m personally hoping within my lifetime if it isn’t
> already around the corner (the Divine does not give hard timelines of
> course). In the meantime, steps are being taken to transition from the
> “greed” based economy (currently, um, running) to that based more on
> “need/love.” Again, the stuff you see going on is all part of that
> transitional period. Earth has requested this, and “the people” have
> chimed in their desire as well. The Divine is therefore answering and
> you are witnessing the product of the Answer.
>
> Your project may very well be one of those transitional projects that
> gets us further down the path – so don’t give up on it.
>
> Relative to your question however, in my particular case I cannot
> relocate – too tied to this area unfortunately. If I were local, I
> wouldn’t necessarily need to be “paid” per se is what I meant by my reply.
>
> Peace, Love, and Light,
>
> Jon C. Munson II
>
> "And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not
> with God: for *with God all things* are possible." [Mark 10:27; KJV]
>
> I sign "Peace, Love, and Light" for at least two reasons. First, it is
> my truest desire for this planet and her people to live in Peace, with
> Love, and in the Light of God. Second, to be an Ascended Master, one
> must Be. As I wish to Be an Ascended Master (someday if not sooner), I
> must also Be - thus I choose to Be Peace, Love, and Light as much as I
> can for everyone and am therefore reflecting those thoughts to you.
>
> *From:* hameltech@yahoogroups.com [mailto:hameltech@yahoogroups.com]
> *On Behalf Of *George Pantos
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:29 AM
> *To:* hameltech@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??
>
> yeah the higher powers are aware of the situation.. that's what i
> attempting to resolve.. yes that is part of the deal a move to
> detroit.. that is why people will be paid, so they can support
> themselves while they are here.. otherwise if it could be done every
> one would be a volunteer..
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>
>     *From:* Jon C. Munson II <mailto:jmunson@...>
>
>     *To:* hameltech@yahoogroups.com <mailto:hameltech@yahoogroups.com>
>
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:16 AM
>
>     *Subject:* RE: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??
>
>     NOTE: I did NOT say there would be a total economic collapse, now
>     did I?
>
>     Re-read what I said and think it over again. You are a smart cookie.
>
>     The Higher Powers are aware of the situation – that’s all that
>     needs saying.
>
>     Have faith and soldier on…
>
>     If I were local to the Detroit area, I’d pitch in what help I
>     could, so, yes, there’s definitely interest.
>
>     Peace, Love, and Light,
>
>     Jon C. Munson II
>
>     "And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but
>     not with God: for *with God all things* are possible." [Mark
>     10:27; KJV]
>
>     I sign "Peace, Love, and Light" for at least two reasons. First,
>     it is my truest desire for this planet and her people to live in
>     Peace, with Love, and in the Light of God. Second, to be an
>     Ascended Master, one must Be. As I wish to Be an Ascended Master
>     (someday if not sooner), I must also Be - thus I choose to Be
>     Peace, Love, and Light as much as I can for everyone and am
>     therefore reflecting those thoughts to you.
>
>     *From:* hameltech@yahoogroups.com
>     [mailto:hameltech@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *George Pantos
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:17 AM
>     *To:* hameltech@yahoogroups.com
>     *Subject:* Re: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??
>
>     no no no that is unrealistic.. first of all if we have energy that
>     is pennies on the dollar the economy won't collapse.. and if u
>     want a great depression.. then u have no idea what u're talking
>     about.. i won't go on.. i just want to know if i there is an
>     interest out there in creating a center/facility here in detroit,
>     and if some of u all who a have a passion for this want to
>     participate and try out your ideas with proper funding.. if we
>     work off eachother perhaps each of our contributions will make
>     this succeed.. a mini manhattan project if u so will.. done
>     without minimal outside interference..
>
>         ----- Original Message -----
>
>         *From:* Jon C. Munson II <mailto:jmunson@...>
>
>         *To:* hameltech@yahoogroups.com
>         <mailto:hameltech@yahoogroups.com>
>
>         *Sent:* Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:44 AM
>
>         *Subject:* RE: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??
>
>         A restructuring of the economy is indeed underway (the
>         collapses you are seeing are symptoms of such) – there is
>         still further to go. You are on the right track with the “for
>         the love of it” part – moving forward, the licensing/greed
>         will not fly.
>
>         Stay “pure” in intent, etc., and your venture will ultimately
>         succeed, even though in the short term it may appear otherwise
>         (due to the ongoing mandatory changes).
>
>         Peace, Love, and Light,
>
>         Jon C. Munson II
>
>         "And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible,
>         but not with God: for *with God all things* are possible."
>         [Mark 10:27; KJV]
>
>         I sign "Peace, Love, and Light" for at least two reasons.
>         First, it is my truest desire for this planet and her people
>         to live in Peace, with Love, and in the Light of God. Second,
>         to be an Ascended Master, one must Be. As I wish to Be an
>         Ascended Master (someday if not sooner), I must also Be - thus
>         I choose to Be Peace, Love, and Light as much as I can for
>         everyone and am therefore reflecting those thoughts to you.
>
>         *From:* hameltech@yahoogroups.com
>         [mailto:hameltech@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *George Pantos
>         *Sent:* Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:25 AM
>         *To:* hameltech@yahoogroups.com
>         *Subject:* Re: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??
>
>         yep. i agree that's why i was holding off.. but realistically
>         to do this funding might be needed... as far as licensing
>         goes, i have no idea, first of all somebody will have to make
>         this like GM makes cars so unless u want to restructure the
>         way our whole economic system is based then i think somewhere
>         down the line money and licensing will be involved.. like i
>         said i want no part of this, unfortunately we would probably
>         have to have some lawyers involved who i don't always like to
>         deal with.. hopefully some of u guys will help me with this
>         part.. i mean it is a group effort, and some chores would need
>         to be done on a time to time basis. as for the grant, that is
>         my secret.. i might be able to pull it off in a manner that i
>         am comfortable with..
>
>             ----- Original Message -----
>
>             *From:* tonytetryl <mailto:tonytetryl@...>
>
>             *To:* hameltech@yahoogroups.com
>             <mailto:hameltech@yahoogroups.com>
>
>             *Sent:* Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:57 AM
>
>             *Subject:* [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??
>
>             hi group.
>
>             "if i were able to secure a large/sizable grant"--george, this
>             part makes me really worried. it makes me to speculate on
>             things.
>             please, please dont take out any kind
>             of a loan against licensing the discoveries or working
>             prototypes.
>             this road can give results fast, but in the end no one
>             will be happy.
>             dont get me wrong, i really appreciate the initiative and
>             please forgive me if i may sound too negative here! i dont
>             intend to, i just
>             gave a lot of thought on a similar idea and i have arrived
>             at a few key points.
>             money and licensing go hand in hand. before i would even
>             dare to
>             realise such a feature i would study for a long time how
>             the major
>             open source projects keep themselves afloat. why? because
>             they have results that truly satisfies the people on the
>             bottom of the chain and
>             they dont answer to a ruling power except the satisfaction
>             of their users.
>             whoever makes such efforts hase to make sure that the
>             licensing under they operate are truly, truly is in the
>             best interest of every individual in the universe (not
>             just planet erath, in other words it gives people
>             knowledge therefore elevating their consciousness so that
>             they be able to use this as they intended) and that how
>             they handle funds is allways transparent, smart, aiding
>             the physical realisation of their ideas while at the same
>             time if funds are gone the gained knowledge is still
>             available to everyone.
>             i stop here and apologise once more for disturbing the
>             buzz, i really want this to happen!
>             but in a smart way. i mean, a very, very smart way.
>             regards
>             greg
>
>

I, too, would be willing, but time and money are required here at home :)
....unless an act of God forced me to 'make it so'...Swine Flu anyone.....?

It would be an honor to serve such a higher purpose and yet the only thing that
truly worries me is that 'what if' gov't officials and others got wind of such a
project!

If it were done somewhere neutral and unaffected by outside 'powers that be', it
may be worthwhile. David Hamel's land would have served a greater purpose if he
had not released to his unknowing son! Too bad he didn't leave it to the most
trusted and dedicated. Now, it just sits there, for sale.

----------------------------------------------------------------

One thing for sure, is that a great many of skilled people would need to come
forward. Highly skilled would be preferred....but as long as the will to
accomplish is there, that is all that is needed.

Skilled in many areas:

Welding
      -TIG, MIG, A/O, Plasma etc.
Stone Work
      -granite sphere making, cup making, diamond tooling (saws, drills, bores)
etc
Jig making
      -structural mechanics and all sorts of know how to make proper jigs for
wings and all pieces of the puzzle.

--------------------------------------------------------
etc...etc...etc
--------------------------------------------------------

I watched a program about the M-1, yesterday, about the M-1 tank refurbishing
facility in the U.S. (several of them). We would need, literally, a facility
which is equivalent or at least on a proportional scale to carry out a daunting
task of creating at least One Galaxy Trinity.

We would also, need a R & D facility which would be doing all the sub components
of the G.T., understanding everything.

That would be "weight into speed", in which a total dedication to mastering all
avenues of this methodology.

Then, others could be 'bellows', 'wings'....'snares'

A magnet dept, which looks after all magnets and handling and classification.

Be creative. I guess the best thing for any of us, George, would be to pre-plan
ever little nuance ahead of time.

Of course, what is also needed the MOST, is total fundamental understanding of
the 3 cone device.

This knowledge would serve an absolute baseline for the ship. You'd need to know
this stuff inside and out beforehand.

So perhaps, many persons could be attempting 3CD replication as well, during the
fabrication of the ship(s). All under the roof of one complex.

BTW, we have all had the time to understand the 3 cone device. If you don't
understand it now, then in order to begin a Galaxy Trinity project, one must
know the 3 cone device beforehand. That would mean, someone or a group who has
greatest understanding would thus teach all
those involved, all the nuances they have learned.

I could do it, as I have learned a great deal, but I am sure there are masters
on here, who know much much more :)

-----------------------------------------

ORGANIZATION...paperwork and practical all at once. You do what you say. You
walk the walk as much as talk the talk.

It will take great leadership to make this happen.

Don't let my post discourage any of you. This has been a goal of mine too, which
has not manifested at all. The timing isn't right just yet.

----- Original Message -----

From: demondoppel

To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:17 AM

Subject: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??

 

I, too, would be willing, but time and money are required here at home :) ....unless an act of God forced me to 'make it so'...Swine Flu anyone.....?

It would be an honor to serve such a higher purpose and yet the only thing that truly worries me is that 'what if' gov't officials and others got wind of such a project!

If it were done somewhere neutral and unaffected by outside 'powers that be', it may be worthwhile. David Hamel's land would have served a greater purpose if he had not released to his unknowing son! Too bad he didn't leave it to the most trusted and dedicated. Now, it just sits there, for sale.

----------------------------------------------------------

One thing for sure, is that a great many of skilled people would need to come forward. Highly skilled would be preferred....but as long as the will to accomplish is there, that is all that is needed.

Skilled in many areas:

Welding
-TIG, MIG, A/O, Plasma etc.
Stone Work
-granite sphere making, cup making, diamond tooling (saws, drills, bores) etc
Jig making
-structural mechanics and all sorts of know how to make proper jigs for wings and all pieces of the puzzle.

--------------------------------------------------------
etc...etc...etc
--------------------------------------------------------

I watched a program about the M-1, yesterday, about the M-1 tank refurbishing facility in the U.S. (several of them). We would need, literally, a facility which is equivalent or at least on a proportional scale to carry out a daunting task of creating at least One Galaxy Trinity.

We would also, need a R & D facility which would be doing all the sub components of the G.T., understanding everything.

That would be "weight into speed", in which a total dedication to mastering all avenues of this methodology.

Then, others could be 'bellows', 'wings'....'snares'

A magnet dept, which looks after all magnets and handling and classification.

Be creative. I guess the best thing for any of us, George, would be to pre-plan ever little nuance ahead of time.

Of course, what is also needed the MOST, is total fundamental understanding of the 3 cone device.

This knowledge would serve an absolute baseline for the ship. You'd need to know this stuff inside and out beforehand.

So perhaps, many persons could be attempting 3CD replication as well, during the fabrication of the ship(s). All under the roof of one complex.

BTW, we have all had the time to understand the 3 cone device. If you don't understand it now, then in order to begin a Galaxy Trinity project, one must know the 3 cone device beforehand. That would mean, someone or a group who has greatest understanding would thus teach all
those involved, all the nuances they have learned.

I could do it, as I have learned a great deal, but I am sure there are masters on here, who know much much more :)

-----------------------------------------

ORGANIZATION...paperwork and practical all at once. You do what you say. You walk the walk as much as talk the talk.

It will take great leadership to make this happen.

Don't let my post discourage any of you. This has been a goal of mine too, which has not manifested at all. The timing isn't right just yet.

 

i for one wouldn't begin to build a full ship until we had the 3CD fully perfected and working.. at that point we would probably have to move to another facility to build the Galaxy Trinity and funding would come much more easily.. in the mean time i had envisioned more of a fully equipped metal shop for now, of course some u have already been working out of one.. of course we could try and perfect some of the fabrication for the Galaxy Trinity in the shop until we move on to larger scale production..

but i guess this is an old story.. i still say it will take a full fledged effort getting a 3cd to work, trying every possible permutation of design.. much like edison went search for the right filament for his light bulb..

 

but matt u definitely have the right idea.. of what i am aiming at..

----- Original Message -----

From: demondoppel

To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:17 AM

Subject: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??

 

I, too, would be willing, but time and money are required here at home :) ....unless an act of God forced me to 'make it so'...Swine Flu anyone.....?

It would be an honor to serve such a higher purpose and yet the only thing that truly worries me is that 'what if' gov't officials and others got wind of such a project!

If it were done somewhere neutral and unaffected by outside 'powers that be', it may be worthwhile. David Hamel's land would have served a greater purpose if he had not released to his unknowing son! Too bad he didn't leave it to the most trusted and dedicated. Now, it just sits there, for sale.

----------------------------------------------------------

One thing for sure, is that a great many of skilled people would need to come forward. Highly skilled would be preferred....but as long as the will to accomplish is there, that is all that is needed.

Skilled in many areas:

Welding
-TIG, MIG, A/O, Plasma etc.
Stone Work
-granite sphere making, cup making, diamond tooling (saws, drills, bores) etc
Jig making
-structural mechanics and all sorts of know how to make proper jigs for wings and all pieces of the puzzle.

--------------------------------------------------------
etc...etc...etc
--------------------------------------------------------

I watched a program about the M-1, yesterday, about the M-1 tank refurbishing facility in the U.S. (several of them). We would need, literally, a facility which is equivalent or at least on a proportional scale to carry out a daunting task of creating at least One Galaxy Trinity.

We would also, need a R & D facility which would be doing all the sub components of the G.T., understanding everything.

That would be "weight into speed", in which a total dedication to mastering all avenues of this methodology.

Then, others could be 'bellows', 'wings'....'snares'

A magnet dept, which looks after all magnets and handling and classification.

Be creative. I guess the best thing for any of us, George, would be to pre-plan ever little nuance ahead of time.

Of course, what is also needed the MOST, is total fundamental understanding of the 3 cone device.

This knowledge would serve an absolute baseline for the ship. You'd need to know this stuff inside and out beforehand.

So perhaps, many persons could be attempting 3CD replication as well, during the fabrication of the ship(s). All under the roof of one complex.

BTW, we have all had the time to understand the 3 cone device. If you don't understand it now, then in order to begin a Galaxy Trinity project, one must know the 3 cone device beforehand. That would mean, someone or a group who has greatest understanding would thus teach all
those involved, all the nuances they have learned.

I could do it, as I have learned a great deal, but I am sure there are masters on here, who know much much more :)

-----------------------------------------

ORGANIZATION...paperwork and practical all at once. You do what you say. You walk the walk as much as talk the talk.

It will take great leadership to make this happen.

Don't let my post discourage any of you. This has been a goal of mine too, which has not manifested at all. The timing isn't right just yet.

----- Original Message -----

From: Dan LaRochelle

To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:01 PM

Subject: Re: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??

 

The 3CD is a WASTE OF YOUR TIME!  Don't build it.
Very few people know what they are doing and there have been nothing but failures over these past 10+ years.
Most people think if the 3-Cone Device wobbles continuously they have success.  NO. 
That is not what it is supposed to do, and besides you won't even get continuous movement anyway.
You see, it is not the wobble but the air that matters and 99% of you out there won't listen anyway.

The true message and technology of David Hamel is the ufo ship.  Period.  Nothing else.
Don't waste your time and money with the 3CD (3-Cone Device)!

David Hamel's ufo ship must be built first. Nothing else should be played with as it is just a waste of time.

Regards,

Dan LaRochelle





George Pantos wrote:

 

i for one wouldn't begin to build a full ship until we had the 3CD fully perfected and working.. at that point we would probably have to move to another facility to build the Galaxy Trinity and funding would come much more easily.. in the mean time i had envisioned more of a fully equipped metal shop for now, of course some u have already been working out of one.. of course we could try and perfect some of the fabrication for the Galaxy Trinity in the shop until we move on to larger scale production..

but i guess this is an old story.. i still say it will take a full fledged effort getting a 3cd to work, trying every possible permutation of design.. much like edison went search for the right filament for his light bulb..

 

but matt u definitely have the right idea.. of what i am aiming at..

----- Original Message -----

From: demondoppel

To: hameltech@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:17 AM

Subject: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??

 

I, too, would be willing, but time and money are required here at home :) ....unless an act of God forced me to 'make it so'...Swine Flu anyone.....?

It would be an honor to serve such a higher purpose and yet the only thing that truly worries me is that 'what if' gov't officials and others got wind of such a project!

If it were done somewhere neutral and unaffected by outside 'powers that be', it may be worthwhile. David Hamel's land would have served a greater purpose if he had not released to his unknowing son! Too bad he didn't leave it to the most trusted and dedicated. Now, it just sits there, for sale.

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One thing for sure, is that a great many of skilled people would need to come forward. Highly skilled would be preferred....but as long as the will to accomplish is there, that is all that is needed.

Skilled in many areas:

Welding
-TIG, MIG, A/O, Plasma etc.
Stone Work
-granite sphere making, cup making, diamond tooling (saws, drills, bores) etc
Jig making
-structural mechanics and all sorts of know how to make proper jigs for wings and all pieces of the puzzle.

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etc...etc...etc
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I watched a program about the M-1, yesterday, about the M-1 tank refurbishing facility in the U.S. (several of them). We would need, literally, a facility which is equivalent or at least on a proportional scale to carry out a daunting task of creating at least One Galaxy Trinity.

We would also, need a R & D facility which would be doing all the sub components of the G.T., understanding everything.

That would be "weight into speed", in which a total dedication to mastering all avenues of this methodology.

Then, others could be 'bellows', 'wings'....'snares'

A magnet dept, which looks after all magnets and handling and classification.

Be creative. I guess the best thing for any of us, George, would be to pre-plan ever little nuance ahead of time.

Of course, what is also needed the MOST, is total fundamental understanding of the 3 cone device.

This knowledge would serve an absolute baseline for the ship. You'd need to know this stuff inside and out beforehand.

So perhaps, many persons could be attempting 3CD replication as well, during the fabrication of the ship(s). All under the roof of one complex.

BTW, we have all had the time to understand the 3 cone device. If you don't understand it now, then in order to begin a Galaxy Trinity project, one must know the 3 cone device beforehand. That would mean, someone or a group who has greatest understanding would thus teach all
those involved, all the nuances they have learned.

I could do it, as I have learned a great deal, but I am sure there are masters on here, who know much much more :)

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ORGANIZATION...paperwork and practical all at once. You do what you say. You walk the walk as much as talk the talk.

It will take great leadership to make this happen.

Don't let my post discourage any of you. This has been a goal of mine too, which has not manifested at all. The timing isn't right just yet.

I too disagree with Dan that the 3CD is a waste of time but in
a way I also agree with both George and Dan. I think ionization
of the air occurs at the sharp cone tips and leads to the plasma
but without enclosing the 3CD in a drum or other cylinder, it
won't build up. Too many people test it without enclosing it.
So the air, or what it becomes, is important.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org

George Pantos wrote:
> i don't buy that..
> plus if the 3cd is to work, my definition would be generation of a
> plasma, or new dimensionality of existence.. not just wobble
> perpetually, although it should if all the rest of this is going on..
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Dan LaRochelle <mailto:danswaay@...>
>     *To:* hameltech@yahoogroups.com <mailto:hameltech@yahoogroups.com>
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:01 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [hameltech] Re: question to the group..??
>
>     The 3CD is a WASTE OF YOUR TIME!  Don't build it.
>     Very few people know what they are doing and there have been
>     _nothing but failures_ over these past 10+ years.
>     Most people think if the 3-Cone Device wobbles continuously they
>     have success.  NO.
>     That is not what it is supposed to do, and besides you won't even
>     get continuous movement anyway.
>     You see, it is not the wobble but the air that matters and 99% of
>     you out there won't listen anyway.
>
>     The true message and technology of David Hamel is the ufo ship.
>     Period.  Nothing else.
>     Don't waste your time and money with the 3CD (3-Cone Device)!
>
>     David Hamel's ufo ship must be built first. Nothing else should be
>     played with as it is just a waste of time.
>
>     Regards,
>
>     Dan LaRochelle