Kenny,
I posted about this a while back, proposing that combinations of certain sounds
(like maybe the Fibonacci scale) might produce higher-dimensional effects. I
found
interesting info on that website about Hermes. Living in ancient Egypt, that was
one smart dude! Anybody wants to know the Greatest Secret of the Universe?

I like especially this part: "By bringing together the First and Third Hermetic
Law the ancient formula of: visualization+vibration=manifestation may be
induced."

And what is vibration? SOUND! Also, mechanical and electromagnetic waves.

http://9waysmysteryschool.tripod.com/sacredsoundtools/id17.html

"Most important of all are three works: the oldest is the 'Divine Pymander'
which
contained the divine wisdom and the secrets of the universe as revealed to
Hermes.
It consists on 17 fragments all in one work. The second book of the Divine
Pymander was 'Poimmandres'or 'The Vision', it relates Hermes mystical vision,
cosmogony, and the secret sciences of the Egyptians and spiritual development of
the Soul. The third work is known as 'The Emerald Tablet' or 'The Emerald
Table'(Smaragdine Table). According to legend, The Emerald Tablet is said to
have
been discovered in a caved tomb, clutched in the hands of the corpse of Hermes
Trismegistus. Regarded as the most revered magical document in Western
occultism,
The Emerald Tablet is the foundation of astrology and alchemy. The most
significant part of The Emerald Tablet is within its opening tractate:

" I am Hermes Trismegistus, One in Essence, Three in Substance. I am Hermes, the
Universal Agent or Primordial Life Force, My Three Aspects are the Male, Female,
and Male-Female Principles."

" Know then the Greatest Secret of the Universe: As Above,So Below - As Within,
So
Without".

" It is true and most certain that: That which Above reflects that which is
Below.
Know this to understand the secret of what is infinitely large, infinitely small
and in between, and the Nature, Form, Structure and Function of all things."

" That which is Within reflects that which is Without, know this to understand
the
Secret of Creation. The inner Divine Fire of Thought creates the multiplicity of
form and texture on earth. Thus, water, fire and spirit mixed by wind are
contained within the substance of earth."

" With utmost concentration, awareness and focus, discriminate the Spiritous
Earth
thus: seperate the Gross from the Subtle, first by gentle heat, then by great
fire. Thus, the Subtle ascends to heaven, the Gross descends to earth, Above and
Below are equalized: Within and Without are transmuted. From darkness is born
the
New Light and the New Energy that penetrates all substances: the Universal
Solvent
of Creation."

" This is why I am Hermes Trismegistus: I know the Secret of the Three-In-One,
thus is performed the Great Work, the mystery of the Great Akh-Nun-Ra!"

Important to students and practitioners of Sacred Sound is the KYBALION which
contains the tenets of hermetic philosophy known as The Seven Hermetic
Principles
or the Seven Laws of Hermes Mercurius Trismegistus.

" The principles of Truth are seven; he who knows these, understandingly,
possesses the Magic Key before whose touch all the Doors of the Temple fly
open."

1) THE PRINCIPLE OF MENTALISM
2) THE PRINCIPLE OF CORRESPONDENCE
3) THE PRINCIPLE OF VIBRATION
4) THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY
5) THE PRINCIPLE OF RHYTHM
6) THE PRINCIPLE OF CAUSE AND EFFECT
7) THE PRINCIPLE OF GENDER

The great Third Principle of Vibration embodies the truth that motion is
manifest
in everything in the universe, that nothing is at rest, that everything moves,
vibrates, and circles. Every thought, emotion or mental state has its
corresponding rate and mode of vibration. And by an effort of the Will of the
person, or of other persons, these mental states may be reproduced, just as a
musical tone may be reproduced by causing an instrument to vibrate at a certain
rate. By bringing together the First and Third Hermetic Law the ancient formula
of: visualization+vibration=manifestation may be induced. "

Jaro

--- In aggroup, "Kenneth" <rockindolphin@...> wrote:
>
> Hey, All!
>
> I was trying to 'do my thing', but not getting the desired results,
> tonight, and I got to thinking about Cymatics. I ran across this
> interesting page and it says that this guy who invented the Tonoscope
> could make water defy gravity with sound. 'Might be worth looking at!
>
> http://9waysmysteryschool.tripod.com/sacredsoundtools/id12.html
>
> I decided to look into this because certain tones/sounds from sounds
> were making my mind explode, so they seemed quite powerful and
> profound.I believe that the 'sound forms' created by sound resonate
> with the 'Cosmic Oneness/God/whatever'. It takes shape within your
> brain and turns it into somekind of 'quantum communications device'
> allowing us to do amazing things by communicating with Creation. Maybe
> this is why people say 'AUM'/'OM' during meditation?
>
> ~Kenny
>

chapter 11...sound circle...music of the spheres within the genesis model   maybe this is why old eddy of the coral castle toned a G# in the fifth and a D,....... 180 degrees apart.....and the D is at the point of creation(starte new cycle) on the fib. scale.....the interval of semi-tones is 6 (the star of david).......interval name ? augmented fourth......characteristic?...neutral or restless....the D also matches the gematrian sine curve..... being two harmonic opposites,this sets up the energy potential.....the disruption of the sub-atomic .......harmonic minimums create the void from which the spark generated at the harmonic maximum by the star is created....

Transworld2 <jaro@...> wrote:

Kenny,
I posted about this a while back, proposing that combinations of certain sounds
(like maybe the Fibonacci scale) might produce higher-dimensional effects. I found
interesting info on that website about Hermes. Living in ancient Egypt, that was
one smart dude! Anybody wants to know the Greatest Secret of the Universe?

I like especially this part: "By bringing together the First and Third Hermetic
Law the ancient formula of: visualization+vibration=manifestation may be induced."

And what is vibration? SOUND! Also, mechanical and electromagnetic waves.

http://9waysmysteryschool.tripod.com/sacredsoundtools/id17.html

"Most important of all are three works: the oldest is the 'Divine Pymander' which
contained the divine wisdom and the secrets of the universe as revealed to Hermes.
It consists on 17 fragments all in one work. The second book of the Divine
Pymander was 'Poimmandres'or 'The Vision', it relates Hermes mystical vision,
cosmogony, and the secret sciences of the Egyptians and spiritual development of
the Soul. The third work is known as 'The Emerald Tablet' or 'The Emerald
Table'(Smaragdine Table). According to legend, The Emerald Tablet is said to have
been discovered in a caved tomb, clutched in the hands of the corpse of Hermes
Trismegistus. Regarded as the most revered magical document in Western occultism,
The Emerald Tablet is the foundation of astrology and alchemy. The most
significant part of The Emerald Tablet is within its opening tractate:

" I am Hermes Trismegistus, One in Essence, Three in Substance. I am Hermes, the
Universal Agent or Primordial Life Force, My Three Aspects are the Male, Female,
and Male-Female Principles."

" Know then the Greatest Secret of the Universe: As Above,So Below - As Within, So
Without".

" It is true and most certain that: That which Above reflects that which is Below.
Know this to understand the secret of what is infinitely large, infinitely small
and in between, and the Nature, Form, Structure and Function of all things."

" That which is Within reflects that which is Without, know this to understand the
Secret of Creation. The inner Divine Fire of Thought creates the multiplicity of
form and texture on earth. Thus, water, fire and spirit mixed by wind are
contained within the substance of earth."

" With utmost concentration, awareness and focus, discriminate the Spiritous Earth
thus: seperate the Gross from the Subtle, first by gentle heat, then by great
fire. Thus, the Subtle ascends to heaven, the Gross descends to earth, Above and
Below are equalized: Within and Without are transmuted. From darkness is born the
New Light and the New Energy that penetrates all substances: the Universal Solvent
of Creation."

" This is why I am Hermes Trismegistus: I know the Secret of the Three-In-One,
thus is performed the Great Work, the mystery of the Great Akh-Nun-Ra!"

Important to students and practitioners of Sacred Sound is the KYBALION which
contains the tenets of hermetic philosophy known as The Seven Hermetic Principles
or the Seven Laws of Hermes Mercurius Trismegistus.

" The principles of Truth are seven; he who knows these, understandingly,
possesses the Magic Key before whose touch all the Doors of the Temple fly open."

1) THE PRINCIPLE OF MENTALISM
2) THE PRINCIPLE OF CORRESPONDENCE
3) THE PRINCIPLE OF VIBRATION
4) THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY
5) THE PRINCIPLE OF RHYTHM
6) THE PRINCIPLE OF CAUSE AND EFFECT
7) THE PRINCIPLE OF GENDER

The great Third Principle of Vibration embodies the truth that motion is manifest
in everything in the universe, that nothing is at rest, that everything moves,
vibrates, and circles. Every thought, emotion or mental state has its
corresponding rate and mode of vibration. And by an effort of the Will of the
person, or of other persons, these mental states may be reproduced, just as a
musical tone may be reproduced by causing an instrument to vibrate at a certain
rate. By bringing together the First and Third Hermetic Law the ancient formula
of: visualization+vibration=manifestation may be induced. "

Jaro

--- In aggroup, "Kenneth" <rockindolphin@...> wrote:
>
> Hey, All!
>
> I was trying to 'do my thing', but not getting the desired results,
> tonight, and I got to thinking about Cymatics. I ran across this
> interesting page and it says that this guy who invented the Tonoscope
> could make water defy gravity with sound. 'Might be worth looking at!
>
> http://9waysmysteryschool.tripod.com/sacredsoundtools/id12.html
>
> I decided to look into this because certain tones/sounds from sounds
> were making my mind explode, so they seemed quite powerful and
> profound.I believe that the 'sound forms' created by sound resonate
> with the 'Cosmic Oneness/God/whatever'. It takes shape within your
> brain and turns it into somekind of 'quantum communications device'
> allowing us to do amazing things by communicating with Creation. Maybe
> this is why people say 'AUM'/'OM' during meditation?
>
> ~Kenny
>

Here are a few thoughts about the Hermes' claim that ancient formula
of: visualization+vibration=manifestation. The Tibetan monk stone levitation
could
be an example of this. Those monks used musical instruments and chanting to move
a
large stone to a cave that was 250 meters up and 500m away. And how did the
stone
know where to go? Obviously it followed the INTENT of those monks, which most
likely was applied using visualization.

  http://www.labyrinthina.com/grid.htm

And what about Leedskalnin and his moving large blocks of stone without any
heavy
equipment? Reportedly he had a network of copper wire several yards above the
ground. If you power that wire with high voltage AC current, you'll get
alternating electric field between that wire and ground. Most stones have
thousands of tiny quartz crystals in them, so if you put them in AC electric
field, they'll start to mechanically vibrate, due to the piezoelectric effect.

This is how Leedskalnin could have vibrated those stone blocks, more easily,
efficiently and quietly than those Tibetan monks. Then he just might have
visualized them rising up and moving where he wanted them to go. He also
reportedly talked and sang to those stones, which might have been another part
of
his technique.

Additionally, he did a lot of reading in a library, and claimed to have known
the
secret of how pyramids were built. This could have been something he learned
from
Hermes' writings, since Hermes seems to have been one of the main Egyptian
"science teachers".

And regarding sacred sounds like the Aum, those seem to be low frequency sounds
which will vibrate the body. High frequency sounds won't work for that, because
they get dampened by soft tissues. Incidentally, the resonant frequency of human
body is between 7 and about 12Hz, so even low intensity sounds at those
frequencies would propagate deep into the tissues. And if you add visualization
to
that vibration, you might restore health of the body, if Hermes' claim is true.

The video of the Qigong master teaching the 7 healing sounds (that I posted last
week) would tend to support that also, since he was using visualization together
with those sounds also.

Jaro

----- Original Message -----
From: "Transworld2"
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [aggroup] Possibly Linking Anti-Grav With What I've Been Saying...
(Hermes)


> Kenny,
> I posted about this a while back, proposing that combinations of certain
sounds
> (like maybe the Fibonacci scale) might produce higher-dimensional effects. I
found
> interesting info on that website about Hermes. Living in ancient Egypt, that
was
> one smart dude! Anybody wants to know the Greatest Secret of the Universe?
>
> I like especially this part: "By bringing together the First and Third
Hermetic
> Law the ancient formula of: visualization+vibration=manifestation may be
induced."
>
> And what is vibration? SOUND! Also, mechanical and electromagnetic waves.
>
> http://9waysmysteryschool.tripod.com/sacredsoundtools/id17.html
>
> "Most important of all are three works: the oldest is the 'Divine Pymander'
which
> contained the divine wisdom and the secrets of the universe as revealed to
Hermes.
> It consists on 17 fragments all in one work. The second book of the Divine
> Pymander was 'Poimmandres'or 'The Vision', it relates Hermes mystical vision,
> cosmogony, and the secret sciences of the Egyptians and spiritual development
of
> the Soul. The third work is known as 'The Emerald Tablet' or 'The Emerald
> Table'(Smaragdine Table). According to legend, The Emerald Tablet is said to
have
> been discovered in a caved tomb, clutched in the hands of the corpse of Hermes
> Trismegistus. Regarded as the most revered magical document in Western
occultism,
> The Emerald Tablet is the foundation of astrology and alchemy. The most
> significant part of The Emerald Tablet is within its opening tractate:
>
> " I am Hermes Trismegistus, One in Essence, Three in Substance. I am Hermes,
the
> Universal Agent or Primordial Life Force, My Three Aspects are the Male,
Female,
> and Male-Female Principles."
>
> " Know then the Greatest Secret of the Universe: As Above,So Below - As
Within,
So
> Without".
>
> " It is true and most certain that: That which Above reflects that which is
Below.
> Know this to understand the secret of what is infinitely large, infinitely
small
> and in between, and the Nature, Form, Structure and Function of all things."
>
> " That which is Within reflects that which is Without, know this to understand
the
> Secret of Creation. The inner Divine Fire of Thought creates the multiplicity
of
> form and texture on earth. Thus, water, fire and spirit mixed by wind are
> contained within the substance of earth."
>
> " With utmost concentration, awareness and focus, discriminate the Spiritous
Earth
> thus: seperate the Gross from the Subtle, first by gentle heat, then by great
> fire. Thus, the Subtle ascends to heaven, the Gross descends to earth, Above
and
> Below are equalized: Within and Without are transmuted. From darkness is born
the
> New Light and the New Energy that penetrates all substances: the Universal
Solvent
> of Creation."
>
> " This is why I am Hermes Trismegistus: I know the Secret of the Three-In-One,
> thus is performed the Great Work, the mystery of the Great Akh-Nun-Ra!"
>
> Important to students and practitioners of Sacred Sound is the KYBALION which
> contains the tenets of hermetic philosophy known as The Seven Hermetic
Principles
> or the Seven Laws of Hermes Mercurius Trismegistus.
>
> " The principles of Truth are seven; he who knows these, understandingly,
> possesses the Magic Key before whose touch all the Doors of the Temple fly
open."
>
> 1) THE PRINCIPLE OF MENTALISM
> 2) THE PRINCIPLE OF CORRESPONDENCE
> 3) THE PRINCIPLE OF VIBRATION
> 4) THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY
> 5) THE PRINCIPLE OF RHYTHM
> 6) THE PRINCIPLE OF CAUSE AND EFFECT
> 7) THE PRINCIPLE OF GENDER
>
> The great Third Principle of Vibration embodies the truth that motion is
manifest
> in everything in the universe, that nothing is at rest, that everything moves,
> vibrates, and circles. Every thought, emotion or mental state has its
> corresponding rate and mode of vibration. And by an effort of the Will of the
> person, or of other persons, these mental states may be reproduced, just as a
> musical tone may be reproduced by causing an instrument to vibrate at a
certain
> rate. By bringing together the First and Third Hermetic Law the ancient
formula
> of: visualization+vibration=manifestation may be induced. "
>
> Jaro
>

Jaro,
The seven healing sounds are based on the laws of entrainment, that a
vibration will entrain other suitably disposed objects to vibrate. The sounds
ss, shh, etc,  have been observed align organ function over 2500 years.
There is a chinese concept of jing or power which I will describe badly here,
but it will serve the purpose. There are many types of jing, but the common
characteristic is that is a short sharp stroke, like a Bruce Lee one-inch
punch, but it is in the mind.  Thereis no muscle involved strictly mental.
Then when a physical punch kick etc is given, you can add thousands of these
little mental strikes to the physical action. You can gather up thousands and
add them to your punch or kick. When you have that then you can imagine the
punch or kick with even more thousands of -> added. By visualizing this, it
is delivered to the intended opponent. Punch out four guys from across the
room ;)  Anyway, jing is beyond most folks, but not quite getting into the
realm of monks lifting stones, etc. Another example of hidden stuff we might
not normally run across.
Just to add some relevance to Hameltech, it shows that you have to believe the
effect (success or cone spin up) will happen, or else it wont. Henry Ford
said it best, "Whether you think you can, or think you can't, you're right".
Dell


On Monday 07 April 2008 23:38:53 Transworld2 wrote:
> Here are a few thoughts about the Hermes' claim that ancient formula
> of: visualization+vibration=manifestation. The Tibetan monk stone
> levitation could be an example of this. Those monks used musical
> instruments and chanting to move a large stone to a cave that was 250
> meters up and 500m away. And how did the stone know where to go? Obviously
> it followed the INTENT of those monks, which most likely was applied using
> visualization.
>
>  http://www.labyrinthina.com/grid.htm
>
> And what about Leedskalnin and his moving large blocks of stone without any
> heavy equipment? Reportedly he had a network of copper wire several yards
> above the ground. If you power that wire with high voltage AC current,
> you'll get alternating electric field between that wire and ground. Most
> stones have thousands of tiny quartz crystals in them, so if you put them
> in AC electric field, they'll start to mechanically vibrate, due to the
> piezoelectric effect.
>
> This is how Leedskalnin could have vibrated those stone blocks, more
> easily, efficiently and quietly than those Tibetan monks. Then he just
> might have visualized them rising up and moving where he wanted them to go.
> He also reportedly talked and sang to those stones, which might have been
> another part of his technique.
>
> Additionally, he did a lot of reading in a library, and claimed to have
> known the secret of how pyramids were built. This could have been something
> he learned from Hermes' writings, since Hermes seems to have been one of
> the main Egyptian "science teachers".
>
> And regarding sacred sounds like the Aum, those seem to be low frequency
> sounds which will vibrate the body. High frequency sounds won't work for
> that, because they get dampened by soft tissues. Incidentally, the resonant
> frequency of human body is between 7 and about 12Hz, so even low intensity
> sounds at those frequencies would propagate deep into the tissues. And if
> you add visualization to that vibration, you might restore health of the
> body, if Hermes' claim is true.
>
> The video of the Qigong master teaching the 7 healing sounds (that I posted
> last week) would tend to support that also, since he was using
> visualization together with those sounds also.
>
> Jaro
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Transworld2"
> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 7:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [aggroup] Possibly Linking Anti-Grav With What I've Been
> Saying... (Hermes)
>
> > Kenny,
> > I posted about this a while back, proposing that combinations of certain
> > sounds (like maybe the Fibonacci scale) might produce higher-dimensional
> > effects. I
>
> found
>
> > interesting info on that website about Hermes. Living in ancient Egypt,
> > that was one smart dude! Anybody wants to know the Greatest Secret of the
> > Universe?
> >
> > I like especially this part: "By bringing together the First and Third
> > Hermetic Law the ancient formula of:
> > visualization+vibration=manifestation may be
>
> induced."
>
> > And what is vibration? SOUND! Also, mechanical and electromagnetic waves.
> >
> > http://9waysmysteryschool.tripod.com/sacredsoundtools/id17.html
> >
> > "Most important of all are three works: the oldest is the 'Divine
> > Pymander'
>
> which
>
> > contained the divine wisdom and the secrets of the universe as revealed
> > to
>
> Hermes.
>
> > It consists on 17 fragments all in one work. The second book of the
> > Divine Pymander was 'Poimmandres'or 'The Vision', it relates Hermes
> > mystical vision, cosmogony, and the secret sciences of the Egyptians and
> > spiritual development of the Soul. The third work is known as 'The
> > Emerald Tablet' or 'The Emerald Table'(Smaragdine Table). According to
> > legend, The Emerald Tablet is said to
>
> have
>
> > been discovered in a caved tomb, clutched in the hands of the corpse of
> > Hermes Trismegistus. Regarded as the most revered magical document in
> > Western
>
> occultism,
>
> > The Emerald Tablet is the foundation of astrology and alchemy. The most
> > significant part of The Emerald Tablet is within its opening tractate:
> >
> > " I am Hermes Trismegistus, One in Essence, Three in Substance. I am
> > Hermes, the Universal Agent or Primordial Life Force, My Three Aspects
> > are the Male, Female, and Male-Female Principles."
> >
> > " Know then the Greatest Secret of the Universe: As Above,So Below - As
> > Within,
>
> So
>
> > Without".
> >
> > " It is true and most certain that: That which Above reflects that which
> > is
>
> Below.
>
> > Know this to understand the secret of what is infinitely large,
> > infinitely small and in between, and the Nature, Form, Structure and
> > Function of all things."
> >
> > " That which is Within reflects that which is Without, know this to
> > understand
>
> the
>
> > Secret of Creation. The inner Divine Fire of Thought creates the
> > multiplicity of form and texture on earth. Thus, water, fire and spirit
> > mixed by wind are contained within the substance of earth."
> >
> > " With utmost concentration, awareness and focus, discriminate the
> > Spiritous
>
> Earth
>
> > thus: seperate the Gross from the Subtle, first by gentle heat, then by
> > great fire. Thus, the Subtle ascends to heaven, the Gross descends to
> > earth, Above and Below are equalized: Within and Without are transmuted.
> > From darkness is born
>
> the
>
> > New Light and the New Energy that penetrates all substances: the
> > Universal
>
> Solvent
>
> > of Creation."
> >
> > " This is why I am Hermes Trismegistus: I know the Secret of the
> > Three-In-One, thus is performed the Great Work, the mystery of the Great
> > Akh-Nun-Ra!"
> >
> > Important to students and practitioners of Sacred Sound is the KYBALION
> > which contains the tenets of hermetic philosophy known as The Seven
> > Hermetic
>
> Principles
>
> > or the Seven Laws of Hermes Mercurius Trismegistus.
> >
> > " The principles of Truth are seven; he who knows these, understandingly,
> > possesses the Magic Key before whose touch all the Doors of the Temple
> > fly
>
> open."
>
> > 1) THE PRINCIPLE OF MENTALISM
> > 2) THE PRINCIPLE OF CORRESPONDENCE
> > 3) THE PRINCIPLE OF VIBRATION
> > 4) THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY
> > 5) THE PRINCIPLE OF RHYTHM
> > 6) THE PRINCIPLE OF CAUSE AND EFFECT
> > 7) THE PRINCIPLE OF GENDER
> >
> > The great Third Principle of Vibration embodies the truth that motion is
>
> manifest
>
> > in everything in the universe, that nothing is at rest, that everything
> > moves, vibrates, and circles. Every thought, emotion or mental state has
> > its corresponding rate and mode of vibration. And by an effort of the
> > Will of the person, or of other persons, these mental states may be
> > reproduced, just as a musical tone may be reproduced by causing an
> > instrument to vibrate at a certain rate. By bringing together the First
> > and Third Hermetic Law the ancient formula of:
> > visualization+vibration=manifestation may be induced. "
> >
> > Jaro

Dell,
yes, some sounds have healing effects (like cat's purr which
accelerates bone healing), but it seems quite likely that if you add
visualization to it, the effect will be much more powerful.

And that jing is just mental generation of the Chi energy, which
takes years to achieve. I'm looking for something easier, like for
example vibrating stones and using visualization on them, like
Leedskalnin probably did.

And David Hamel's aliens were also big on vibration. They were saying
something like "mass into speed, speed into vibration.."

Jaro

--- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com, Dell Coleman <picotech9999@...>
wrote:
>
> Jaro,
> The seven healing sounds are based on the laws of entrainment, that
a
> vibration will entrain other suitably disposed objects to vibrate.
The sounds
> ss, shh, etc,  have been observed align organ function over 2500
years.
> There is a chinese concept of jing or power which I will describe
badly here,
> but it will serve the purpose. There are many types of jing, but
the common
> characteristic is that is a short sharp stroke, like a Bruce Lee
one-inch
> punch, but it is in the mind.  Thereis no muscle involved strictly
mental.
> Then when a physical punch kick etc is given, you can add thousands
of these
> little mental strikes to the physical action. You can gather up
thousands and
> add them to your punch or kick. When you have that then you can
imagine the
> punch or kick with even more thousands of -> added. By visualizing
this, it
> is delivered to the intended opponent. Punch out four guys from
across the
> room ;)  Anyway, jing is beyond most folks, but not quite getting
into the
> realm of monks lifting stones, etc. Another example of hidden stuff
we might
> not normally run across.
> Just to add some relevance to Hameltech, it shows that you have to
believe the
> effect (success or cone spin up) will happen, or else it wont.
Henry Ford
> said it best, "Whether you think you can, or think you can't,
you're right".
> Dell
>
>
> On Monday 07 April 2008 23:38:53 Transworld2 wrote:
> > Here are a few thoughts about the Hermes' claim that ancient
formula
> > of: visualization+vibration=manifestation. The Tibetan monk stone
> > levitation could be an example of this. Those monks used musical
> > instruments and chanting to move a large stone to a cave that was
250
> > meters up and 500m away. And how did the stone know where to go?
Obviously
> > it followed the INTENT of those monks, which most likely was
applied using
> > visualization.
> >
> >  http://www.labyrinthina.com/grid.htm
> >
> > And what about Leedskalnin and his moving large blocks of stone
without any
> > heavy equipment? Reportedly he had a network of copper wire
several yards
> > above the ground. If you power that wire with high voltage AC
current,
> > you'll get alternating electric field between that wire and
ground. Most
> > stones have thousands of tiny quartz crystals in them, so if you
put them
> > in AC electric field, they'll start to mechanically vibrate, due
to the
> > piezoelectric effect.
> >
> > This is how Leedskalnin could have vibrated those stone blocks,
more
> > easily, efficiently and quietly than those Tibetan monks. Then he
just
> > might have visualized them rising up and moving where he wanted
them to go.
> > He also reportedly talked and sang to those stones, which might
have been
> > another part of his technique.
> >
> > Additionally, he did a lot of reading in a library, and claimed
to have
> > known the secret of how pyramids were built. This could have been
something
> > he learned from Hermes' writings, since Hermes seems to have been
one of
> > the main Egyptian "science teachers".
> >
> > And regarding sacred sounds like the Aum, those seem to be low
frequency
> > sounds which will vibrate the body. High frequency sounds won't
work for
> > that, because they get dampened by soft tissues. Incidentally,
the resonant
> > frequency of human body is between 7 and about 12Hz, so even low
intensity
> > sounds at those frequencies would propagate deep into the
tissues. And if
> > you add visualization to that vibration, you might restore health
of the
> > body, if Hermes' claim is true.
> >
> > The video of the Qigong master teaching the 7 healing sounds
(that I posted
> > last week) would tend to support that also, since he was using
> > visualization together with those sounds also.
> >
> > Jaro
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Transworld2"
> > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 7:46 AM
> > Subject: Re: [aggroup] Possibly Linking Anti-Grav With What I've
Been
> > Saying... (Hermes)
> >
> > > Kenny,
> > > I posted about this a while back, proposing that combinations
of certain
> > > sounds (like maybe the Fibonacci scale) might produce higher-
dimensional
> > > effects. I
> >
> > found
> >
> > > interesting info on that website about Hermes. Living in
ancient Egypt,
> > > that was one smart dude! Anybody wants to know the Greatest
Secret of the
> > > Universe?
> > >
> > > I like especially this part: "By bringing together the First
and Third
> > > Hermetic Law the ancient formula of:
> > > visualization+vibration=manifestation may be
> >
> > induced."
> >
> > > And what is vibration? SOUND! Also, mechanical and
electromagnetic waves.
> > >
> > > http://9waysmysteryschool.tripod.com/sacredsoundtools/id17.html
> > >
> > > "Most important of all are three works: the oldest is
the 'Divine
> > > Pymander'
> >
> > which
> >
> > > contained the divine wisdom and the secrets of the universe as
revealed
> > > to
> >
> > Hermes.
> >
> > > It consists on 17 fragments all in one work. The second book of
the
> > > Divine Pymander was 'Poimmandres'or 'The Vision', it relates
Hermes
> > > mystical vision, cosmogony, and the secret sciences of the
Egyptians and
> > > spiritual development of the Soul. The third work is known
as 'The
> > > Emerald Tablet' or 'The Emerald Table'(Smaragdine Table).
According to
> > > legend, The Emerald Tablet is said to
> >
> > have
> >
> > > been discovered in a caved tomb, clutched in the hands of the
corpse of
> > > Hermes Trismegistus. Regarded as the most revered magical
document in
> > > Western
> >
> > occultism,
> >
> > > The Emerald Tablet is the foundation of astrology and alchemy.
The most
> > > significant part of The Emerald Tablet is within its opening
tractate:
> > >
> > > " I am Hermes Trismegistus, One in Essence, Three in Substance.
I am
> > > Hermes, the Universal Agent or Primordial Life Force, My Three
Aspects
> > > are the Male, Female, and Male-Female Principles."
> > >
> > > " Know then the Greatest Secret of the Universe: As Above,So
Below - As
> > > Within,
> >
> > So
> >
> > > Without".
> > >
> > > " It is true and most certain that: That which Above reflects
that which
> > > is
> >
> > Below.
> >
> > > Know this to understand the secret of what is infinitely large,
> > > infinitely small and in between, and the Nature, Form,
Structure and
> > > Function of all things."
> > >
> > > " That which is Within reflects that which is Without, know
this to
> > > understand
> >
> > the
> >
> > > Secret of Creation. The inner Divine Fire of Thought creates the
> > > multiplicity of form and texture on earth. Thus, water, fire
and spirit
> > > mixed by wind are contained within the substance of earth."
> > >
> > > " With utmost concentration, awareness and focus, discriminate
the
> > > Spiritous
> >
> > Earth
> >
> > > thus: seperate the Gross from the Subtle, first by gentle heat,
then by
> > > great fire. Thus, the Subtle ascends to heaven, the Gross
descends to
> > > earth, Above and Below are equalized: Within and Without are
transmuted.
> > > From darkness is born
> >
> > the
> >
> > > New Light and the New Energy that penetrates all substances: the
> > > Universal
> >
> > Solvent
> >
> > > of Creation."
> > >
> > > " This is why I am Hermes Trismegistus: I know the Secret of the
> > > Three-In-One, thus is performed the Great Work, the mystery of
the Great
> > > Akh-Nun-Ra!"
> > >
> > > Important to students and practitioners of Sacred Sound is the
KYBALION
> > > which contains the tenets of hermetic philosophy known as The
Seven
> > > Hermetic
> >
> > Principles
> >
> > > or the Seven Laws of Hermes Mercurius Trismegistus.
> > >
> > > " The principles of Truth are seven; he who knows these,
understandingly,
> > > possesses the Magic Key before whose touch all the Doors of the
Temple
> > > fly
> >
> > open."
> >
> > > 1) THE PRINCIPLE OF MENTALISM
> > > 2) THE PRINCIPLE OF CORRESPONDENCE
> > > 3) THE PRINCIPLE OF VIBRATION
> > > 4) THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY
> > > 5) THE PRINCIPLE OF RHYTHM
> > > 6) THE PRINCIPLE OF CAUSE AND EFFECT
> > > 7) THE PRINCIPLE OF GENDER
> > >
> > > The great Third Principle of Vibration embodies the truth that
motion is
> >
> > manifest
> >
> > > in everything in the universe, that nothing is at rest, that
everything
> > > moves, vibrates, and circles. Every thought, emotion or mental
state has
> > > its corresponding rate and mode of vibration. And by an effort
of the
> > > Will of the person, or of other persons, these mental states
may be
> > > reproduced, just as a musical tone may be reproduced by causing
an
> > > instrument to vibrate at a certain rate. By bringing together
the First
> > > and Third Hermetic Law the ancient formula of:
> > > visualization+vibration=manifestation may be induced. "
> > >
> > > Jaro
>

Hi, could someone please either re-post or direct me to the Chi-qung
masters Seven healing Sounds site.
I've missed that post. Thanks guys...Tara

On 4/7/08, Transworld2 <jaro@...> wrote:
> Here are a few thoughts about the Hermes' claim that ancient formula
> of: visualization+vibration=manifestation. The Tibetan monk stone levitation
> could
> be an example of this. Those monks used musical instruments and chanting to
> move a
> large stone to a cave that was 250 meters up and 500m away. And how did the
> stone
> know where to go? Obviously it followed the INTENT of those monks, which
> most
> likely was applied using visualization.
>
>  http://www.labyrinthina.com/grid.htm
>
> And what about Leedskalnin and his moving large blocks of stone without any
> heavy
> equipment? Reportedly he had a network of copper wire several yards above
> the
> ground. If you power that wire with high voltage AC current, you'll get
> alternating electric field between that wire and ground. Most stones have
> thousands of tiny quartz crystals in them, so if you put them in AC electric
> field, they'll start to mechanically vibrate, due to the piezoelectric
> effect.
>
> This is how Leedskalnin could have vibrated those stone blocks, more easily,
> efficiently and quietly than those Tibetan monks. Then he just might have
> visualized them rising up and moving where he wanted them to go. He also
> reportedly talked and sang to those stones, which might have been another
> part of
> his technique.
>
> Additionally, he did a lot of reading in a library, and claimed to have
> known the
> secret of how pyramids were built. This could have been something he learned
> from
> Hermes' writings, since Hermes seems to have been one of the main Egyptian
> "science teachers".
>
> And regarding sacred sounds like the Aum, those seem to be low frequency
> sounds
> which will vibrate the body. High frequency sounds won't work for that,
> because
> they get dampened by soft tissues. Incidentally, the resonant frequency of
> human
> body is between 7 and about 12Hz, so even low intensity sounds at those
> frequencies would propagate deep into the tissues. And if you add
> visualization to
> that vibration, you might restore health of the body, if Hermes' claim is
> true.
>
> The video of the Qigong master teaching the 7 healing sounds (that I posted
> last
> week) would tend to support that also, since he was using visualization
> together
> with those sounds also.
>
> Jaro
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Transworld2"
> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 7:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [aggroup] Possibly Linking Anti-Grav With What I've Been
> Saying...
> (Hermes)
>
>
> > Kenny,
> > I posted about this a while back, proposing that combinations of certain
> sounds
> > (like maybe the Fibonacci scale) might produce higher-dimensional effects.
> I
> found
> > interesting info on that website about Hermes. Living in ancient Egypt,
> that was
> > one smart dude! Anybody wants to know the Greatest Secret of the Universe?
> >
> > I like especially this part: "By bringing together the First and Third
> Hermetic
> > Law the ancient formula of: visualization+vibration=manifestation may be
> induced."
> >
> > And what is vibration? SOUND! Also, mechanical and electromagnetic waves.
> >
> > http://9waysmysteryschool.tripod.com/sacredsoundtools/id17.html
> >
> > "Most important of all are three works: the oldest is the 'Divine
> Pymander'
> which
> > contained the divine wisdom and the secrets of the universe as revealed to
> Hermes.
> > It consists on 17 fragments all in one work. The second book of the Divine
> > Pymander was 'Poimmandres'or 'The Vision', it relates Hermes mystical
> vision,
> > cosmogony, and the secret sciences of the Egyptians and spiritual
> development of
> > the Soul. The third work is known as 'The Emerald Tablet' or 'The Emerald
> > Table'(Smaragdine Table). According to legend, The Emerald Tablet is said
> to
> have
> > been discovered in a caved tomb, clutched in the hands of the corpse of
> Hermes
> > Trismegistus. Regarded as the most revered magical document in Western
> occultism,
> > The Emerald Tablet is the foundation of astrology and alchemy. The most
> > significant part of The Emerald Tablet is within its opening tractate:
> >
> > " I am Hermes Trismegistus, One in Essence, Three in Substance. I am
> Hermes, the
> > Universal Agent or Primordial Life Force, My Three Aspects are the Male,
> Female,
> > and Male-Female Principles."
> >
> > " Know then the Greatest Secret of the Universe: As Above,So Below - As
> Within,
> So
> > Without".
> >
> > " It is true and most certain that: That which Above reflects that which
> is
> Below.
> > Know this to understand the secret of what is infinitely large, infinitely
> small
> > and in between, and the Nature, Form, Structure and Function of all
> things."
> >
> > " That which is Within reflects that which is Without, know this to
> understand
> the
> > Secret of Creation. The inner Divine Fire of Thought creates the
> multiplicity of
> > form and texture on earth. Thus, water, fire and spirit mixed by wind are
> > contained within the substance of earth."
> >
> > " With utmost concentration, awareness and focus, discriminate the
> Spiritous
> Earth
> > thus: seperate the Gross from the Subtle, first by gentle heat, then by
> great
> > fire. Thus, the Subtle ascends to heaven, the Gross descends to earth,
> Above and
> > Below are equalized: Within and Without are transmuted. From darkness is
> born
> the
> > New Light and the New Energy that penetrates all substances: the Universal
> Solvent
> > of Creation."
> >
> > " This is why I am Hermes Trismegistus: I know the Secret of the
> Three-In-One,
> > thus is performed the Great Work, the mystery of the Great Akh-Nun-Ra!"
> >
> > Important to students and practitioners of Sacred Sound is the KYBALION
> which
> > contains the tenets of hermetic philosophy known as The Seven Hermetic
> Principles
> > or the Seven Laws of Hermes Mercurius Trismegistus.
> >
> > " The principles of Truth are seven; he who knows these, understandingly,
> > possesses the Magic Key before whose touch all the Doors of the Temple fly
> open."
> >
> > 1) THE PRINCIPLE OF MENTALISM
> > 2) THE PRINCIPLE OF CORRESPONDENCE
> > 3) THE PRINCIPLE OF VIBRATION
> > 4) THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY
> > 5) THE PRINCIPLE OF RHYTHM
> > 6) THE PRINCIPLE OF CAUSE AND EFFECT
> > 7) THE PRINCIPLE OF GENDER
> >
> > The great Third Principle of Vibration embodies the truth that motion is
> manifest
> > in everything in the universe, that nothing is at rest, that everything
> moves,
> > vibrates, and circles. Every thought, emotion or mental state has its
> > corresponding rate and mode of vibration. And by an effort of the Will of
> the
> > person, or of other persons, these mental states may be reproduced, just
> as a
> > musical tone may be reproduced by causing an instrument to vibrate at a
> certain
> > rate. By bringing together the First and Third Hermetic Law the ancient
> formula
> > of: visualization+vibration=manifestation may be induced. "
> >
> > Jaro
> >
>
>
>

Jaro,
So if just for fun we apply these principles to the 3 cone device, how
do they apply

As above, so below   and we have three cones, three rings an osc and a
top activation

At the middle cone there is a fit, there is a cone both above and below
There are a set of oscs both above and below.  If we welded the cones
into a vertical line,
it would move in unison back an forth across the osc pair   \      /
->  X
But we have three separate pieces and three "legs" to the motion.
If we look at the bottom osc the saying does not hold, nor for the
bottom cone alone,
nor the top cone alone nor the top osc alone. For single items it only
applies to the middle cone

Taken pairwise, treating the top two cones as a group, the saying again
applies, same for the bottom two pairwise.
That is, taking a dividing line at the bottom of the second cone,
separating the third, there is a mirror,
but in a sense the sides of the mirror are uneven, the two cones being a
bigger mass-lump than the single.
This is probably the configuration where the power is coming from since
we need a plus/ minus division to create and sustain the vibration

Taking all three as a group, the saying applies yet again.

So we have three conditions that meet the saying - middle cone alone,
any two cones pairwise, and all three cones together.

  From this we can imply that the middle cone is the focus of the action,
the transmitter and receiver, and that
the pairwise action of two cones makes the power.

As for the ring magnets, the centre hoop is the only one meeting the
criteria


Dell



starraider25 wrote:
>
> Dell,
> yes, some sounds have healing effects (like cat's purr which
> accelerates bone healing), but it seems quite likely that if you add
> visualization to it, the effect will be much more powerful.
>
> And that jing is just mental generation of the Chi energy, which
> takes years to achieve. I'm looking for something easier, like for
> example vibrating stones and using visualization on them, like
> Leedskalnin probably did.
>
> And David Hamel's aliens were also big on vibration. They were saying
> something like "mass into speed, speed into vibration.."
>
> Jaro
>
> --- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com <mailto:hameltech%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Dell Coleman <picotech9999@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Jaro,
> > The seven healing sounds are based on the laws of entrainment, that
> a
> > vibration will entrain other suitably disposed objects to vibrate.
> The sounds
> > ss, shh, etc, have been observed align organ function over 2500
> years.
> > There is a chinese concept of jing or power which I will describe
> badly here,
> > but it will serve the purpose. There are many types of jing, but
> the common
> > characteristic is that is a short sharp stroke, like a Bruce Lee
> one-inch
> > punch, but it is in the mind. Thereis no muscle involved strictly
> mental.
> > Then when a physical punch kick etc is given, you can add thousands
> of these
> > little mental strikes to the physical action. You can gather up
> thousands and
> > add them to your punch or kick. When you have that then you can
> imagine the
> > punch or kick with even more thousands of -> added. By visualizing
> this, it
> > is delivered to the intended opponent. Punch out four guys from
> across the
> > room ;) Anyway, jing is beyond most folks, but not quite getting
> into the
> > realm of monks lifting stones, etc. Another example of hidden stuff
> we might
> > not normally run across.
> > Just to add some relevance to Hameltech, it shows that you have to
> believe the
> > effect (success or cone spin up) will happen, or else it wont.
> Henry Ford
> > said it best, "Whether you think you can, or think you can't,
> you're right".
> > Dell
> >
> >
> > On Monday 07 April 2008 23:38:53 Transworld2 wrote:
> > > Here are a few thoughts about the Hermes' claim that ancient
> formula
> > > of: visualization+vibration=manifestation. The Tibetan monk stone
> > > levitation could be an example of this. Those monks used musical
> > > instruments and chanting to move a large stone to a cave that was
> 250
> > > meters up and 500m away. And how did the stone know where to go?
> Obviously
> > > it followed the INTENT of those monks, which most likely was
> applied using
> > > visualization.
> > >
> > > http://www.labyrinthina.com/grid.htm
> <http://www.labyrinthina.com/grid.htm>
> > >
> > > And what about Leedskalnin and his moving large blocks of stone
> without any
> > > heavy equipment? Reportedly he had a network of copper wire
> several yards
> > > above the ground. If you power that wire with high voltage AC
> current,
> > > you'll get alternating electric field between that wire and
> ground. Most
> > > stones have thousands of tiny quartz crystals in them, so if you
> put them
> > > in AC electric field, they'll start to mechanically vibrate, due
> to the
> > > piezoelectric effect.
> > >
> > > This is how Leedskalnin could have vibrated those stone blocks,
> more
> > > easily, efficiently and quietly than those Tibetan monks. Then he
> just
> > > might have visualized them rising up and moving where he wanted
> them to go.
> > > He also reportedly talked and sang to those stones, which might
> have been
> > > another part of his technique.
> > >
> > > Additionally, he did a lot of reading in a library, and claimed
> to have
> > > known the secret of how pyramids were built. This could have been
> something
> > > he learned from Hermes' writings, since Hermes seems to have been
> one of
> > > the main Egyptian "science teachers".
> > >
> > > And regarding sacred sounds like the Aum, those seem to be low
> frequency
> > > sounds which will vibrate the body. High frequency sounds won't
> work for
> > > that, because they get dampened by soft tissues. Incidentally,
> the resonant
> > > frequency of human body is between 7 and about 12Hz, so even low
> intensity
> > > sounds at those frequencies would propagate deep into the
> tissues. And if
> > > you add visualization to that vibration, you might restore health
> of the
> > > body, if Hermes' claim is true.
> > >
> > > The video of the Qigong master teaching the 7 healing sounds
> (that I posted
> > > last week) would tend to support that also, since he was using
> > > visualization together with those sounds also.
> > >
> > > Jaro
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Transworld2"
> > > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 7:46 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [aggroup] Possibly Linking Anti-Grav With What I've
> Been
> > > Saying... (Hermes)
> > >
> > > > Kenny,
> > > > I posted about this a while back, proposing that combinations
> of certain
> > > > sounds (like maybe the Fibonacci scale) might produce higher-
> dimensional
> > > > effects. I
> > >
> > > found
> > >
> > > > interesting info on that website about Hermes. Living in
> ancient Egypt,
> > > > that was one smart dude! Anybody wants to know the Greatest
> Secret of the
> > > > Universe?
> > > >
> > > > I like especially this part: "By bringing together the First
> and Third
> > > > Hermetic Law the ancient formula of:
> > > > visualization+vibration=manifestation may be
> > >
> > > induced."
> > >
> > > > And what is vibration? SOUND! Also, mechanical and
> electromagnetic waves.
> > > >
> > > > http://9waysmysteryschool.tripod.com/sacredsoundtools/id17.html
> <http://9waysmysteryschool.tripod.com/sacredsoundtools/id17.html>
> > > >
> > > > "Most important of all are three works: the oldest is
> the 'Divine
> > > > Pymander'
> > >
> > > which
> > >
> > > > contained the divine wisdom and the secrets of the universe as
> revealed
> > > > to
> > >
> > > Hermes.
> > >
> > > > It consists on 17 fragments all in one work. The second book of
> the
> > > > Divine Pymander was 'Poimmandres'or 'The Vision', it relates
> Hermes
> > > > mystical vision, cosmogony, and the secret sciences of the
> Egyptians and
> > > > spiritual development of the Soul. The third work is known
> as 'The
> > > > Emerald Tablet' or 'The Emerald Table'(Smaragdine Table).
> According to
> > > > legend, The Emerald Tablet is said to
> > >
> > > have
> > >
> > > > been discovered in a caved tomb, clutched in the hands of the
> corpse of
> > > > Hermes Trismegistus. Regarded as the most revered magical
> document in
> > > > Western
> > >
> > > occultism,
> > >
> > > > The Emerald Tablet is the foundation of astrology and alchemy.
> The most
> > > > significant part of The Emerald Tablet is within its opening
> tractate:
> > > >
> > > > " I am Hermes Trismegistus, One in Essence, Three in Substance.
> I am
> > > > Hermes, the Universal Agent or Primordial Life Force, My Three
> Aspects
> > > > are the Male, Female, and Male-Female Principles."
> > > >
> > > > " Know then the Greatest Secret of the Universe: As Above,So
> Below - As
> > > > Within,
> > >
> > > So
> > >
> > > > Without".
> > > >
> > > > " It is true and most certain that: That which Above reflects
> that which
> > > > is
> > >
> > > Below.
> > >
> > > > Know this to understand the secret of what is infinitely large,
> > > > infinitely small and in between, and the Nature, Form,
> Structure and
> > > > Function of all things."
> > > >
> > > > " That which is Within reflects that which is Without, know
> this to
> > > > understand
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > > > Secret of Creation. The inner Divine Fire of Thought creates the
> > > > multiplicity of form and texture on earth. Thus, water, fire
> and spirit
> > > > mixed by wind are contained within the substance of earth."
> > > >
> > > > " With utmost concentration, awareness and focus, discriminate
> the
> > > > Spiritous
> > >
> > > Earth
> > >
> > > > thus: seperate the Gross from the Subtle, first by gentle heat,
> then by
> > > > great fire. Thus, the Subtle ascends to heaven, the Gross
> descends to
> > > > earth, Above and Below are equalized: Within and Without are
> transmuted.
> > > > From darkness is born
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > > > New Light and the New Energy that penetrates all substances: the
> > > > Universal
> > >
> > > Solvent
> > >
> > > > of Creation."
> > > >
> > > > " This is why I am Hermes Trismegistus: I know the Secret of the
> > > > Three-In-One, thus is performed the Great Work, the mystery of
> the Great
> > > > Akh-Nun-Ra!"
> > > >
> > > > Important to students and practitioners of Sacred Sound is the
> KYBALION
> > > > which contains the tenets of hermetic philosophy known as The
> Seven
> > > > Hermetic
> > >
> > > Principles
> > >
> > > > or the Seven Laws of Hermes Mercurius Trismegistus.
> > > >
> > > > " The principles of Truth are seven; he who knows these,
> understandingly,
> > > > possesses the Magic Key before whose touch all the Doors of the
> Temple
> > > > fly
> > >
> > > open."
> > >
> > > > 1) THE PRINCIPLE OF MENTALISM
> > > > 2) THE PRINCIPLE OF CORRESPONDENCE
> > > > 3) THE PRINCIPLE OF VIBRATION
> > > > 4) THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY
> > > > 5) THE PRINCIPLE OF RHYTHM
> > > > 6) THE PRINCIPLE OF CAUSE AND EFFECT
> > > > 7) THE PRINCIPLE OF GENDER
> > > >
> > > > The great Third Principle of Vibration embodies the truth that
> motion is
> > >
> > > manifest
> > >
> > > > in everything in the universe, that nothing is at rest, that
> everything
> > > > moves, vibrates, and circles. Every thought, emotion or mental
> state has
> > > > its corresponding rate and mode of vibration. And by an effort
> of the
> > > > Will of the person, or of other persons, these mental states
> may be
> > > > reproduced, just as a musical tone may be reproduced by causing
> an
> > > > instrument to vibrate at a certain rate. By bringing together
> the First
> > > > and Third Hermetic Law the ancient formula of:
> > > > visualization+vibration=manifestation may be induced. "
> > > >
> > > > Jaro
> >
>
>

Jaro
About  the seven laws, how many can we see applying?

1) THE PRINCIPLE OF MENTALISM
Henry Ford - already talked about him and the reason why debunkers
almost always debunk - suck the energy right out.

2) THE PRINCIPLE OF CORRESPONDENCE
No idea

3) THE PRINCIPLE OF VIBRATION
Yes cones vibrate or form standing waves more or less

4) THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY
There are specific magnet polarities in the instructions. There is more
polarity in

5) THE PRINCIPLE OF RHYTHM
This is repetitive cyclical motion. We want the vibration to  cycle up
and down the cone set.

6) THE PRINCIPLE OF CAUSE AND EFFECT
Osc effects top rejection, cones effect each other and the bottom osc.
Rings effect cone magnets
Lots of effects.

7) THE PRINCIPLE OF GENDER
This is expand and compress. In this setup with the activation coming
from the top,
we first have compression going to the bottom osc, and expansion coming
back out.
At the top and bottom osc, we have reflection, an energy as above, so
below, not a physical one.
The cone configuration gives the gender hint   >>
It also says the centre cone is both male and female >>>

What is the principle of correspondence about, Jaro? Maybe there is a
fit there too.


Dell

The relection drives the compression back into expansion


starraider25 wrote:
>
> Dell,
> yes, some sounds have healing effects (like cat's purr which
> accelerates bone healing), but it seems quite likely that if you add
> visualization to it, the effect will be much more powerful.
>
> And that jing is just mental generation of the Chi energy, which
> takes years to achieve. I'm looking for something easier, like for
> example vibrating stones and using visualization on them, like
> Leedskalnin probably did.
>
> And David Hamel's aliens were also big on vibration. They were saying
> something like "mass into speed, speed into vibration.."
>
> Jaro
>
> --- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com <mailto:hameltech%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Dell Coleman <picotech9999@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Jaro,
> > The seven healing sounds are based on the laws of entrainment, that
> a
> > vibration will entrain other suitably disposed objects to vibrate.
> The sounds
> > ss, shh, etc, have been observed align organ function over 2500
> years.
> > There is a chinese concept of jing or power which I will describe
> badly here,
> > but it will serve the purpose. There are many types of jing, but
> the common
> > characteristic is that is a short sharp stroke, like a Bruce Lee
> one-inch
> > punch, but it is in the mind. Thereis no muscle involved strictly
> mental.
> > Then when a physical punch kick etc is given, you can add thousands
> of these
> > little mental strikes to the physical action. You can gather up
> thousands and
> > add them to your punch or kick. When you have that then you can
> imagine the
> > punch or kick with even more thousands of -> added. By visualizing
> this, it
> > is delivered to the intended opponent. Punch out four guys from
> across the
> > room ;) Anyway, jing is beyond most folks, but not quite getting
> into the
> > realm of monks lifting stones, etc. Another example of hidden stuff
> we might
> > not normally run across.
> > Just to add some relevance to Hameltech, it shows that you have to
> believe the
> > effect (success or cone spin up) will happen, or else it wont.
> Henry Ford
> > said it best, "Whether you think you can, or think you can't,
> you're right".
> > Dell
> >
> >
> > On Monday 07 April 2008 23:38:53 Transworld2 wrote:
> > > Here are a few thoughts about the Hermes' claim that ancient
> formula
> > > of: visualization+vibration=manifestation. The Tibetan monk stone
> > > levitation could be an example of this. Those monks used musical
> > > instruments and chanting to move a large stone to a cave that was
> 250
> > > meters up and 500m away. And how did the stone know where to go?
> Obviously
> > > it followed the INTENT of those monks, which most likely was
> applied using
> > > visualization.
> > >
> > > http://www.labyrinthina.com/grid.htm
> <http://www.labyrinthina.com/grid.htm>
> > >
> > > And what about Leedskalnin and his moving large blocks of stone
> without any
> > > heavy equipment? Reportedly he had a network of copper wire
> several yards
> > > above the ground. If you power that wire with high voltage AC
> current,
> > > you'll get alternating electric field between that wire and
> ground. Most
> > > stones have thousands of tiny quartz crystals in them, so if you
> put them
> > > in AC electric field, they'll start to mechanically vibrate, due
> to the
> > > piezoelectric effect.
> > >
> > > This is how Leedskalnin could have vibrated those stone blocks,
> more
> > > easily, efficiently and quietly than those Tibetan monks. Then he
> just
> > > might have visualized them rising up and moving where he wanted
> them to go.
> > > He also reportedly talked and sang to those stones, which might
> have been
> > > another part of his technique.
> > >
> > > Additionally, he did a lot of reading in a library, and claimed
> to have
> > > known the secret of how pyramids were built. This could have been
> something
> > > he learned from Hermes' writings, since Hermes seems to have been
> one of
> > > the main Egyptian "science teachers".
> > >
> > > And regarding sacred sounds like the Aum, those seem to be low
> frequency
> > > sounds which will vibrate the body. High frequency sounds won't
> work for
> > > that, because they get dampened by soft tissues. Incidentally,
> the resonant
> > > frequency of human body is between 7 and about 12Hz, so even low
> intensity
> > > sounds at those frequencies would propagate deep into the
> tissues. And if
> > > you add visualization to that vibration, you might restore health
> of the
> > > body, if Hermes' claim is true.
> > >
> > > The video of the Qigong master teaching the 7 healing sounds
> (that I posted
> > > last week) would tend to support that also, since he was using
> > > visualization together with those sounds also.
> > >
> > > Jaro
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Transworld2"
> > > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 7:46 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [aggroup] Possibly Linking Anti-Grav With What I've
> Been
> > > Saying... (Hermes)
> > >
> > > > Kenny,
> > > > I posted about this a while back, proposing that combinations
> of certain
> > > > sounds (like maybe the Fibonacci scale) might produce higher-
> dimensional
> > > > effects. I
> > >
> > > found
> > >
> > > > interesting info on that website about Hermes. Living in
> ancient Egypt,
> > > > that was one smart dude! Anybody wants to know the Greatest
> Secret of the
> > > > Universe?
> > > >
> > > > I like especially this part: "By bringing together the First
> and Third
> > > > Hermetic Law the ancient formula of:
> > > > visualization+vibration=manifestation may be
> > >
> > > induced."
> > >
> > > > And what is vibration? SOUND! Also, mechanical and
> electromagnetic waves.
> > > >
> > > > http://9waysmysteryschool.tripod.com/sacredsoundtools/id17.html
> <http://9waysmysteryschool.tripod.com/sacredsoundtools/id17.html>
> > > >
> > > > "Most important of all are three works: the oldest is
> the 'Divine
> > > > Pymander'
> > >
> > > which
> > >
> > > > contained the divine wisdom and the secrets of the universe as
> revealed
> > > > to
> > >
> > > Hermes.
> > >
> > > > It consists on 17 fragments all in one work. The second book of
> the
> > > > Divine Pymander was 'Poimmandres'or 'The Vision', it relates
> Hermes
> > > > mystical vision, cosmogony, and the secret sciences of the
> Egyptians and
> > > > spiritual development of the Soul. The third work is known
> as 'The
> > > > Emerald Tablet' or 'The Emerald Table'(Smaragdine Table).
> According to
> > > > legend, The Emerald Tablet is said to
> > >
> > > have
> > >
> > > > been discovered in a caved tomb, clutched in the hands of the
> corpse of
> > > > Hermes Trismegistus. Regarded as the most revered magical
> document in
> > > > Western
> > >
> > > occultism,
> > >
> > > > The Emerald Tablet is the foundation of astrology and alchemy.
> The most
> > > > significant part of The Emerald Tablet is within its opening
> tractate:
> > > >
> > > > " I am Hermes Trismegistus, One in Essence, Three in Substance.
> I am
> > > > Hermes, the Universal Agent or Primordial Life Force, My Three
> Aspects
> > > > are the Male, Female, and Male-Female Principles."
> > > >
> > > > " Know then the Greatest Secret of the Universe: As Above,So
> Below - As
> > > > Within,
> > >
> > > So
> > >
> > > > Without".
> > > >
> > > > " It is true and most certain that: That which Above reflects
> that which
> > > > is
> > >
> > > Below.
> > >
> > > > Know this to understand the secret of what is infinitely large,
> > > > infinitely small and in between, and the Nature, Form,
> Structure and
> > > > Function of all things."
> > > >
> > > > " That which is Within reflects that which is Without, know
> this to
> > > > understand
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > > > Secret of Creation. The inner Divine Fire of Thought creates the
> > > > multiplicity of form and texture on earth. Thus, water, fire
> and spirit
> > > > mixed by wind are contained within the substance of earth."
> > > >
> > > > " With utmost concentration, awareness and focus, discriminate
> the
> > > > Spiritous
> > >
> > > Earth
> > >
> > > > thus: seperate the Gross from the Subtle, first by gentle heat,
> then by
> > > > great fire. Thus, the Subtle ascends to heaven, the Gross
> descends to
> > > > earth, Above and Below are equalized: Within and Without are
> transmuted.
> > > > From darkness is born
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > > > New Light and the New Energy that penetrates all substances: the
> > > > Universal
> > >
> > > Solvent
> > >
> > > > of Creation."
> > > >
> > > > " This is why I am Hermes Trismegistus: I know the Secret of the
> > > > Three-In-One, thus is performed the Great Work, the mystery of
> the Great
> > > > Akh-Nun-Ra!"
> > > >
> > > > Important to students and practitioners of Sacred Sound is the
> KYBALION
> > > > which contains the tenets of hermetic philosophy known as The
> Seven
> > > > Hermetic
> > >
> > > Principles
> > >
> > > > or the Seven Laws of Hermes Mercurius Trismegistus.
> > > >
> > > > " The principles of Truth are seven; he who knows these,
> understandingly,
> > > > possesses the Magic Key before whose touch all the Doors of the
> Temple
> > > > fly
> > >
> > > open."
> > >
> > > > 1) THE PRINCIPLE OF MENTALISM
> > > > 2) THE PRINCIPLE OF CORRESPONDENCE
> > > > 3) THE PRINCIPLE OF VIBRATION
> > > > 4) THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY
> > > > 5) THE PRINCIPLE OF RHYTHM
> > > > 6) THE PRINCIPLE OF CAUSE AND EFFECT
> > > > 7) THE PRINCIPLE OF GENDER
> > > >
> > > > The great Third Principle of Vibration embodies the truth that
> motion is
> > >
> > > manifest
> > >
> > > > in everything in the universe, that nothing is at rest, that
> everything
> > > > moves, vibrates, and circles. Every thought, emotion or mental
> state has
> > > > its corresponding rate and mode of vibration. And by an effort
> of the
> > > > Will of the person, or of other persons, these mental states
> may be
> > > > reproduced, just as a musical tone may be reproduced by causing
> an
> > > > instrument to vibrate at a certain rate. By bringing together
> the First
> > > > and Third Hermetic Law the ancient formula of:
> > > > visualization+vibration=manifestation may be induced. "
> > > >
> > > > Jaro
> >
>
>

The "As Above So Below" term takes into account of sacred
geometry...which is behind the operation of the 3CD and any of
David's machines.
This geometry is both micro and macro scaled.

Looking Below: If we peer into the DNA, for example, there is
geometry there...or a micro-sized crystal of some mineral...there is
geometry there.
Looking Above: If we look out into the world, we will see that life
and inanimate objects can take on the expressions of the micro and
make aware in the macro. They mirror the same geometry.
The universe at large, the galaxies can have that same geometry...as
doth the planets in their sizes and also orbits.

The pyramids in egypt, especially the big one...is saying this,
through geometry, As Above so below. The Great Pyramid is making
clear that Life is expansive and can evolve forward...becoming
greater.

Involving the 3CD, the geometry we are using in the 3CD is going to
effectively tunnel back to the source. It is the geometry which makes
this possible. So the term above, does indeed work with the 3CD..as
the machine will work from 'above' and go down 'below' in order to
access the source.


Matt

--- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com, Dell Coleman <picotech9999@...>
wrote:
>
> Jaro,
> So if just for fun we apply these principles to the 3 cone device,
how
> do they apply
>
> As above, so below   and we have three cones, three rings an osc
and a
> top activation
>
> At the middle cone there is a fit, there is a cone both above and
below
> There are a set of oscs both above and below.  If we welded the
cones
> into a vertical line,
> it would move in unison back an forth across the osc pair
\      /
> ->  X
> But we have three separate pieces and three "legs" to the motion.
> If we look at the bottom osc the saying does not hold, nor for the
> bottom cone alone,
> nor the top cone alone nor the top osc alone. For single items it
only
> applies to the middle cone
>
> Taken pairwise, treating the top two cones as a group, the saying
again
> applies, same for the bottom two pairwise.
> That is, taking a dividing line at the bottom of the second cone,
> separating the third, there is a mirror,
> but in a sense the sides of the mirror are uneven, the two cones
being a
> bigger mass-lump than the single.
> This is probably the configuration where the power is coming from
since
> we need a plus/ minus division to create and sustain the vibration
>
> Taking all three as a group, the saying applies yet again.
>
> So we have three conditions that meet the saying - middle cone
alone,
> any two cones pairwise, and all three cones together.
>
>  From this we can imply that the middle cone is the focus of the
action,
> the transmitter and receiver, and that
> the pairwise action of two cones makes the power.
>
> As for the ring magnets, the centre hoop is the only one meeting
the
> criteria
>
>
> Dell
>
>
>
> starraider25 wrote:
> >
> > Dell,
> > yes, some sounds have healing effects (like cat's purr which
> > accelerates bone healing), but it seems quite likely that if you
add
> > visualization to it, the effect will be much more powerful.
> >
> > And that jing is just mental generation of the Chi energy, which
> > takes years to achieve. I'm looking for something easier, like for
> > example vibrating stones and using visualization on them, like
> > Leedskalnin probably did.
> >
> > And David Hamel's aliens were also big on vibration. They were
saying
> > something like "mass into speed, speed into vibration.."
> >
> > Jaro
> >
> > --- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com <mailto:hameltech%
40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Dell Coleman <picotech9999@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Jaro,
> > > The seven healing sounds are based on the laws of entrainment,
that
> > a
> > > vibration will entrain other suitably disposed objects to
vibrate.
> > The sounds
> > > ss, shh, etc, have been observed align organ function over 2500
> > years.
> > > There is a chinese concept of jing or power which I will
describe
> > badly here,
> > > but it will serve the purpose. There are many types of jing, but
> > the common
> > > characteristic is that is a short sharp stroke, like a Bruce Lee
> > one-inch
> > > punch, but it is in the mind. Thereis no muscle involved
strictly
> > mental.
> > > Then when a physical punch kick etc is given, you can add
thousands
> > of these
> > > little mental strikes to the physical action. You can gather up
> > thousands and
> > > add them to your punch or kick. When you have that then you can
> > imagine the
> > > punch or kick with even more thousands of -> added. By
visualizing
> > this, it
> > > is delivered to the intended opponent. Punch out four guys from
> > across the
> > > room ;) Anyway, jing is beyond most folks, but not quite getting
> > into the
> > > realm of monks lifting stones, etc. Another example of hidden
stuff
> > we might
> > > not normally run across.
> > > Just to add some relevance to Hameltech, it shows that you have
to
> > believe the
> > > effect (success or cone spin up) will happen, or else it wont.
> > Henry Ford
> > > said it best, "Whether you think you can, or think you can't,
> > you're right".
> > > Dell
> > >
> > >
> > > On Monday 07 April 2008 23:38:53 Transworld2 wrote:
> > > > Here are a few thoughts about the Hermes' claim that ancient
> > formula
> > > > of: visualization+vibration=manifestation. The Tibetan monk
stone
> > > > levitation could be an example of this. Those monks used
musical
> > > > instruments and chanting to move a large stone to a cave that
was
> > 250
> > > > meters up and 500m away. And how did the stone know where to
go?
> > Obviously
> > > > it followed the INTENT of those monks, which most likely was
> > applied using
> > > > visualization.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.labyrinthina.com/grid.htm
> > <http://www.labyrinthina.com/grid.htm>
> > > >
> > > > And what about Leedskalnin and his moving large blocks of
stone
> > without any
> > > > heavy equipment? Reportedly he had a network of copper wire
> > several yards
> > > > above the ground. If you power that wire with high voltage AC
> > current,
> > > > you'll get alternating electric field between that wire and
> > ground. Most
> > > > stones have thousands of tiny quartz crystals in them, so if
you
> > put them
> > > > in AC electric field, they'll start to mechanically vibrate,
due
> > to the
> > > > piezoelectric effect.
> > > >
> > > > This is how Leedskalnin could have vibrated those stone
blocks,
> > more
> > > > easily, efficiently and quietly than those Tibetan monks.
Then he
> > just
> > > > might have visualized them rising up and moving where he
wanted
> > them to go.
> > > > He also reportedly talked and sang to those stones, which
might
> > have been
> > > > another part of his technique.
> > > >
> > > > Additionally, he did a lot of reading in a library, and
claimed
> > to have
> > > > known the secret of how pyramids were built. This could have
been
> > something
> > > > he learned from Hermes' writings, since Hermes seems to have
been
> > one of
> > > > the main Egyptian "science teachers".
> > > >
> > > > And regarding sacred sounds like the Aum, those seem to be low
> > frequency
> > > > sounds which will vibrate the body. High frequency sounds
won't
> > work for
> > > > that, because they get dampened by soft tissues. Incidentally,
> > the resonant
> > > > frequency of human body is between 7 and about 12Hz, so even
low
> > intensity
> > > > sounds at those frequencies would propagate deep into the
> > tissues. And if
> > > > you add visualization to that vibration, you might restore
health
> > of the
> > > > body, if Hermes' claim is true.
> > > >
> > > > The video of the Qigong master teaching the 7 healing sounds
> > (that I posted
> > > > last week) would tend to support that also, since he was using
> > > > visualization together with those sounds also.
> > > >
> > > > Jaro
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Transworld2"
> > > > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 7:46 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [aggroup] Possibly Linking Anti-Grav With What
I've
> > Been
> > > > Saying... (Hermes)
> > > >
> > > > > Kenny,
> > > > > I posted about this a while back, proposing that
combinations
> > of certain
> > > > > sounds (like maybe the Fibonacci scale) might produce
higher-
> > dimensional
> > > > > effects. I
> > > >
> > > > found
> > > >
> > > > > interesting info on that website about Hermes. Living in
> > ancient Egypt,
> > > > > that was one smart dude! Anybody wants to know the Greatest
> > Secret of the
> > > > > Universe?
> > > > >
> > > > > I like especially this part: "By bringing together the First
> > and Third
> > > > > Hermetic Law the ancient formula of:
> > > > > visualization+vibration=manifestation may be
> > > >
> > > > induced."
> > > >
> > > > > And what is vibration? SOUND! Also, mechanical and
> > electromagnetic waves.
> > > > >
> > > > >
http://9waysmysteryschool.tripod.com/sacredsoundtools/id17.html
> > <http://9waysmysteryschool.tripod.com/sacredsoundtools/id17.html>
> > > > >
> > > > > "Most important of all are three works: the oldest is
> > the 'Divine
> > > > > Pymander'
> > > >
> > > > which
> > > >
> > > > > contained the divine wisdom and the secrets of the universe
as
> > revealed
> > > > > to
> > > >
> > > > Hermes.
> > > >
> > > > > It consists on 17 fragments all in one work. The second
book of
> > the
> > > > > Divine Pymander was 'Poimmandres'or 'The Vision', it relates
> > Hermes
> > > > > mystical vision, cosmogony, and the secret sciences of the
> > Egyptians and
> > > > > spiritual development of the Soul. The third work is known
> > as 'The
> > > > > Emerald Tablet' or 'The Emerald Table'(Smaragdine Table).
> > According to
> > > > > legend, The Emerald Tablet is said to
> > > >
> > > > have
> > > >
> > > > > been discovered in a caved tomb, clutched in the hands of
the
> > corpse of
> > > > > Hermes Trismegistus. Regarded as the most revered magical
> > document in
> > > > > Western
> > > >
> > > > occultism,
> > > >
> > > > > The Emerald Tablet is the foundation of astrology and
alchemy.
> > The most
> > > > > significant part of The Emerald Tablet is within its opening
> > tractate:
> > > > >
> > > > > " I am Hermes Trismegistus, One in Essence, Three in
Substance.
> > I am
> > > > > Hermes, the Universal Agent or Primordial Life Force, My
Three
> > Aspects
> > > > > are the Male, Female, and Male-Female Principles."
> > > > >
> > > > > " Know then the Greatest Secret of the Universe: As Above,So
> > Below - As
> > > > > Within,
> > > >
> > > > So
> > > >
> > > > > Without".
> > > > >
> > > > > " It is true and most certain that: That which Above
reflects
> > that which
> > > > > is
> > > >
> > > > Below.
> > > >
> > > > > Know this to understand the secret of what is infinitely
large,
> > > > > infinitely small and in between, and the Nature, Form,
> > Structure and
> > > > > Function of all things."
> > > > >
> > > > > " That which is Within reflects that which is Without, know
> > this to
> > > > > understand
> > > >
> > > > the
> > > >
> > > > > Secret of Creation. The inner Divine Fire of Thought
creates the
> > > > > multiplicity of form and texture on earth. Thus, water, fire
> > and spirit
> > > > > mixed by wind are contained within the substance of earth."
> > > > >
> > > > > " With utmost concentration, awareness and focus,
discriminate
> > the
> > > > > Spiritous
> > > >
> > > > Earth
> > > >
> > > > > thus: seperate the Gross from the Subtle, first by gentle
heat,
> > then by
> > > > > great fire. Thus, the Subtle ascends to heaven, the Gross
> > descends to
> > > > > earth, Above and Below are equalized: Within and Without are
> > transmuted.
> > > > > From darkness is born
> > > >
> > > > the
> > > >
> > > > > New Light and the New Energy that penetrates all
substances: the
> > > > > Universal
> > > >
> > > > Solvent
> > > >
> > > > > of Creation."
> > > > >
> > > > > " This is why I am Hermes Trismegistus: I know the Secret
of the
> > > > > Three-In-One, thus is performed the Great Work, the mystery
of
> > the Great
> > > > > Akh-Nun-Ra!"
> > > > >
> > > > > Important to students and practitioners of Sacred Sound is
the
> > KYBALION
> > > > > which contains the tenets of hermetic philosophy known as
The
> > Seven
> > > > > Hermetic
> > > >
> > > > Principles
> > > >
> > > > > or the Seven Laws of Hermes Mercurius Trismegistus.
> > > > >
> > > > > " The principles of Truth are seven; he who knows these,
> > understandingly,
> > > > > possesses the Magic Key before whose touch all the Doors of
the
> > Temple
> > > > > fly
> > > >
> > > > open."
> > > >
> > > > > 1) THE PRINCIPLE OF MENTALISM
> > > > > 2) THE PRINCIPLE OF CORRESPONDENCE
> > > > > 3) THE PRINCIPLE OF VIBRATION
> > > > > 4) THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY
> > > > > 5) THE PRINCIPLE OF RHYTHM
> > > > > 6) THE PRINCIPLE OF CAUSE AND EFFECT
> > > > > 7) THE PRINCIPLE OF GENDER
> > > > >
> > > > > The great Third Principle of Vibration embodies the truth
that
> > motion is
> > > >
> > > > manifest
> > > >
> > > > > in everything in the universe, that nothing is at rest, that
> > everything
> > > > > moves, vibrates, and circles. Every thought, emotion or
mental
> > state has
> > > > > its corresponding rate and mode of vibration. And by an
effort
> > of the
> > > > > Will of the person, or of other persons, these mental states
> > may be
> > > > > reproduced, just as a musical tone may be reproduced by
causing
> > an
> > > > > instrument to vibrate at a certain rate. By bringing
together
> > the First
> > > > > and Third Hermetic Law the ancient formula of:
> > > > > visualization+vibration=manifestation may be induced. "
> > > > >
> > > > > Jaro
> > >
> >
> >
>

Here Dell...some of my own thoughts...for the group:

> 1) THE PRINCIPLE OF MENTALISM
   All things are united...unity through the 'source'...the underlying
field of the universe. We are mentally involved with the cosmos and
how it is percieved by us. We work through the source even if we
don't know it. We can change the environment to better
ourselves...using the mind....and through unity.
The 3CD is state of perfection for true physics. It is a beautiful
technology...and reflects the unity of those who practice this
technology.
>
> 2) THE PRINCIPLE OF CORRESPONDENCE
   "As Above so below" As within....so without. All things of lower
correspond to those of the higher. 3rd dimension to the 5th dimension.
Geometry and working through dimensions to get to the source of 'all
that is'. The 3CD works from the 3rd dimension to get to the 5th
dimension.
>
> 3) THE PRINCIPLE OF VIBRATION
Nothing rests....all is vibrating...all the time. Higher the
vibration...greater the energy output. A 3CD will thus be of the
higher magnitude under full operation. It will never rest...perpetual.
>
> 4) THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY
Duality, magnetism, hot and cold, opposites, like and unlike
The 3CD, this would be the South/North/South configuration and also
the repulsion. Magnetism involved. Compression and uncompression of
the cone into the ring.
>
> 5) THE PRINCIPLE OF RHYTHM
Everything flows, in and out. Tides...standing waves.
swing...vibration. timing...like a drummer. cyclic.
The 3CD is cyclic since it is a standing wave inside the containment.
It will thus never come to rest....repeating patterns and seeking out
natural order through geometry.
>
> 6) THE PRINCIPLE OF CAUSE AND EFFECT
To every action there is always an opposite reaction.
Cause and effect. Vibration to matter. Vibration leads to
manifestation. Magnetism is a principle natural force of creation.
The 3CD: each cone is affecting the other and in turn being affected.
A cause and effect interplay.
>
> 7) THE PRINCIPLE OF GENDER
Masculine and feminine.
scientific and also spiritual.
Masculine: will, force, sending, outward expressive, rigidity
Feminine: creativity, intuition, nature, flexibility.
The 3CD is nature...it is working according to nature and yet it is
contained in ridigity (frame)...in order to function. It also has
flexibility, as to where the cones are concerned, as they are able to
move. 3CD is science and yet it is also spiritual since it is tapping
into God or the Source. A unification...but also realizing of both
something to use and something to believe in.


Matt

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chapter 11...sound circle...music of the spheres within the genesis model   maybe this is why old eddy of the coral castle toned a G# in the fifth and a D,....... 180 degrees apart.....and the D is at the point of creation(starte new cycle) on the fib. scale.....the interval of semi-tones is 6 (the star of david).......interval name ? augmented fourth......characteristic?...neutral or restless....the D also matches the gematrian sine curve.....   being two harmonic opposites,this sets up the energy potential............the disruption of the sub-atomic .......harmonic minimums create the void from which the spark generated at the harmonic maximum by the star is created   this is sound harmonics, the lowest  potential......that we are to use for making something "mass-less"........ lower harmonics create healings of the physical  first...........heat second.........then light.....................none of this has anything to do with anti-gravity.....   thats for nasa.........lol   hermes wanda also uses these principals........   the principle we are trying to understand is light harmomics......this will allow travel at the speed of "thought"....geometrically through the universe, on the waves of eather......

Transworld2 <jaro@...> wrote:

Kenny,
I posted about this a while back, proposing that combinations of certain sounds
(like maybe the Fibonacci scale) might produce higher-dimensional effects. I found
interesting info on that website about Hermes. Living in ancient Egypt, that was
one smart dude! Anybody wants to know the Greatest Secret of the Universe?

I like especially this part: "By bringing together the First and Third Hermetic
Law the ancient formula of: visualization+vibration=manifestation may be induced."

And what is vibration? SOUND! Also, mechanical and electromagnetic waves.

http://9waysmysteryschool.tripod.com/sacredsoundtools/id17.html

"Most important of all are three works: the oldest is the 'Divine Pymander' which
contained the divine wisdom and the secrets of the universe as revealed to Hermes.
It consists on 17 fragments all in one work. The second book of the Divine
Pymander was 'Poimmandres'or 'The Vision', it relates Hermes mystical vision,
cosmogony, and the secret sciences of the Egyptians and spiritual development of
the Soul. The third work is known as 'The Emerald Tablet' or 'The Emerald
Table'(Smaragdine Table). According to legend, The Emerald Tablet is said to have
been discovered in a caved tomb, clutched in the hands of the corpse of Hermes
Trismegistus. Regarded as the most revered magical document in Western occultism,
The Emerald Tablet is the foundation of astrology and alchemy. The most
significant part of The Emerald Tablet is within its opening tractate:

" I am Hermes Trismegistus, One in Essence, Three in Substance. I am Hermes, the
Universal Agent or Primordial Life Force, My Three Aspects are the Male, Female,
and Male-Female Principles."

" Know then the Greatest Secret of the Universe: As Above,So Below - As Within, So
Without".

" It is true and most certain that: That which Above reflects that which is Below.
Know this to understand the secret of what is infinitely large, infinitely small
and in between, and the Nature, Form, Structure and Function of all things."

" That which is Within reflects that which is Without, know this to understand the
Secret of Creation. The inner Divine Fire of Thought creates the multiplicity of
form and texture on earth. Thus, water, fire and spirit mixed by wind are
contained within the substance of earth."

" With utmost concentration, awareness and focus, discriminate the Spiritous Earth
thus: seperate the Gross from the Subtle, first by gentle heat, then by great
fire. Thus, the Subtle ascends to heaven, the Gross descends to earth, Above and
Below are equalized: Within and Without are transmuted. From darkness is born the
New Light and the New Energy that penetrates all substances: the Universal Solvent
of Creation."

" This is why I am Hermes Trismegistus: I know the Secret of the Three-In-One,
thus is performed the Great Work, the mystery of the Great Akh-Nun-Ra!"

Important to students and practitioners of Sacred Sound is the KYBALION which
contains the tenets of hermetic philosophy known as The Seven Hermetic Principles
or the Seven Laws of Hermes Mercurius Trismegistus.

" The principles of Truth are seven; he who knows these, understandingly,
possesses the Magic Key before whose touch all the Doors of the Temple fly open."

1) THE PRINCIPLE OF MENTALISM
2) THE PRINCIPLE OF CORRESPONDENCE
3) THE PRINCIPLE OF VIBRATION
4) THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY
5) THE PRINCIPLE OF RHYTHM
6) THE PRINCIPLE OF CAUSE AND EFFECT
7) THE PRINCIPLE OF GENDER

The great Third Principle of Vibration embodies the truth that motion is manifest
in everything in the universe, that nothing is at rest, that everything moves,
vibrates, and circles. Every thought, emotion or mental state has its
corresponding rate and mode of vibration. And by an effort of the Will of the
person, or of other persons, these mental states may be reproduced, just as a
musical tone may be reproduced by causing an instrument to vibrate at a certain
rate. By bringing together the First and Third Hermetic Law the ancient formula
of: visualization+vibration=manifestation may be induced. "

Jaro

--- In aggroup, "Kenneth" <rockindolphin@...> wrote:
>
> Hey, All!
>
> I was trying to 'do my thing', but not getting the desired results,
> tonight, and I got to thinking about Cymatics. I ran across this
> interesting page and it says that this guy who invented the Tonoscope
> could make water defy gravity with sound. 'Might be worth looking at!
>
> http://9waysmysteryschool.tripod.com/sacredsoundtools/id12.html
>
> I decided to look into this because certain tones/sounds from sounds
> were making my mind explode, so they seemed quite powerful and
> profound.I believe that the 'sound forms' created by sound resonate
> with the 'Cosmic Oneness/God/whatever'. It takes shape within your
> brain and turns it into somekind of 'quantum communications device'
> allowing us to do amazing things by communicating with Creation. Maybe
> this is why people say 'AUM'/'OM' during meditation?
>
> ~Kenny
>

Tara,
I've posted that in my group because I don't want to post too much
off topic stuff here :-) Here's the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFqotaIc3Dw&feature=related

Jaro

--- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com, "lady hawk" <tarabead@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, could someone please either re-post or direct me to the Chi-qung
> masters Seven healing Sounds site.
> I've missed that post. Thanks guys...Tara
>
> On 4/7/08, Transworld2 <jaro@...> wrote:
> > Here are a few thoughts about the Hermes' claim that ancient
formula
> > of: visualization+vibration=manifestation. The Tibetan monk stone
levitation
> > could
> > be an example of this. Those monks used musical instruments and
chanting to
> > move a
> > large stone to a cave that was 250 meters up and 500m away. And
how did the
> > stone
> > know where to go? Obviously it followed the INTENT of those
monks, which
> > most
> > likely was applied using visualization.
> >
> >  http://www.labyrinthina.com/grid.htm
> >
> > And what about Leedskalnin and his moving large blocks of stone
without any
> > heavy
> > equipment? Reportedly he had a network of copper wire several
yards above
> > the
> > ground. If you power that wire with high voltage AC current,
you'll get
> > alternating electric field between that wire and ground. Most
stones have
> > thousands of tiny quartz crystals in them, so if you put them in
AC electric
> > field, they'll start to mechanically vibrate, due to the
piezoelectric
> > effect.
> >
> > This is how Leedskalnin could have vibrated those stone blocks,
more easily,
> > efficiently and quietly than those Tibetan monks. Then he just
might have
> > visualized them rising up and moving where he wanted them to go.
He also
> > reportedly talked and sang to those stones, which might have been
another
> > part of
> > his technique.
> >
> > Additionally, he did a lot of reading in a library, and claimed
to have
> > known the
> > secret of how pyramids were built. This could have been something
he learned
> > from
> > Hermes' writings, since Hermes seems to have been one of the main
Egyptian
> > "science teachers".
> >
> > And regarding sacred sounds like the Aum, those seem to be low
frequency
> > sounds
> > which will vibrate the body. High frequency sounds won't work for
that,
> > because
> > they get dampened by soft tissues. Incidentally, the resonant
frequency of
> > human
> > body is between 7 and about 12Hz, so even low intensity sounds at
those
> > frequencies would propagate deep into the tissues. And if you add
> > visualization to
> > that vibration, you might restore health of the body, if Hermes'
claim is
> > true.
> >
> > The video of the Qigong master teaching the 7 healing sounds
(that I posted
> > last
> > week) would tend to support that also, since he was using
visualization
> > together
> > with those sounds also.
> >
> > Jaro

Ha ha, Matt, you speak like a true believer (regarding the 3CD). Here
are a few of my thoughts:

1) THE PRINCIPLE OF MENTALISM - Visualization/Thoughts affect reality

3) THE PRINCIPLE OF VIBRATION - By changing vibration, we can change
reality?

4) THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY - Does that mean that everything has a
polar opposite, including matter and energy?


5) THE PRINCIPLE OF RHYTHM - If everything is cyclic, then we should
use that in our technology. Don't just use a single frequency, change
it repeatedly. AM and FM modulation would be examples of simple
cyclicism. Also, AC current is a simple rhytm.


6) THE PRINCIPLE OF CAUSE AND EFFECT - For every cause there is an
effect, even if we can't see or detect it.


7) THE PRINCIPLE OF GENDER - Somebody help me here. How gender is
different from polarity/duality? Would that be that by combining male
and female we get something new?

Jaro

--- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com, "demondoppel" <mattihorn@...> wrote:
>
> Here Dell...some of my own thoughts...for the group:
>
> > 1) THE PRINCIPLE OF MENTALISM
>   All things are united...unity through the 'source'...the
underlying
> field of the universe. We are mentally involved with the cosmos and
> how it is percieved by us. We work through the source even if we
> don't know it. We can change the environment to better
> ourselves...using the mind....and through unity.
> The 3CD is state of perfection for true physics. It is a beautiful
> technology...and reflects the unity of those who practice this
> technology.
> >
> > 2) THE PRINCIPLE OF CORRESPONDENCE
>   "As Above so below" As within....so without. All things of lower
> correspond to those of the higher. 3rd dimension to the 5th
dimension.
> Geometry and working through dimensions to get to the source
of 'all
> that is'. The 3CD works from the 3rd dimension to get to the 5th
> dimension.
> >
> > 3) THE PRINCIPLE OF VIBRATION
> Nothing rests....all is vibrating...all the time. Higher the
> vibration...greater the energy output. A 3CD will thus be of the
> higher magnitude under full operation. It will never
rest...perpetual.
> >
> > 4) THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY
> Duality, magnetism, hot and cold, opposites, like and unlike
> The 3CD, this would be the South/North/South configuration and also
> the repulsion. Magnetism involved. Compression and uncompression of
> the cone into the ring.
> >
> > 5) THE PRINCIPLE OF RHYTHM
> Everything flows, in and out. Tides...standing waves.
> swing...vibration. timing...like a drummer. cyclic.
> The 3CD is cyclic since it is a standing wave inside the
containment.
> It will thus never come to rest....repeating patterns and seeking
out
> natural order through geometry.
> >
> > 6) THE PRINCIPLE OF CAUSE AND EFFECT
> To every action there is always an opposite reaction.
> Cause and effect. Vibration to matter. Vibration leads to
> manifestation. Magnetism is a principle natural force of creation.
> The 3CD: each cone is affecting the other and in turn being
affected.
> A cause and effect interplay.
> >
> > 7) THE PRINCIPLE OF GENDER
> Masculine and feminine.
> scientific and also spiritual.
> Masculine: will, force, sending, outward expressive, rigidity
> Feminine: creativity, intuition, nature, flexibility.
> The 3CD is nature...it is working according to nature and yet it is
> contained in ridigity (frame)...in order to function. It also has
> flexibility, as to where the cones are concerned, as they are able
to
> move. 3CD is science and yet it is also spiritual since it is
tapping
> into God or the Source. A unification...but also realizing of both
> something to use and something to believe in.
>
>
> Matt
>

Yes, Hermes' caduceus could have been an example of these principles.
A male and female snake, opposite to each other, and rhytmically
coiling up. In electric terms, that'd be a twisted bifilar wire, with
each wire powered in different polarity. Add frequency (vibration)
and AM modulation (rhytm), and you've got most of those Hermes'
principles in it.

Jaro

--- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com, granite spider <granite8rok@...>
wrote:
>
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>
>               chapter 11...sound circle...music of the spheres
within the genesis model
>
>   maybe this is why old eddy of the coral castle toned a G# in the
fifth and a D,....... 180 degrees apart.....and the D is at the point
of creation(starte new cycle) on the fib. scale.....the interval of
semi-tones is 6 (the star of david).......interval name ? augmented
fourth......characteristic?...neutral or restless....the D also
matches the gematrian sine curve.....
>
>   being two harmonic opposites,this sets up the energy
potential............the disruption of the sub-atomic .......harmonic
minimums create the void from which the spark generated at the
harmonic maximum by the star is created
>
>   this is sound harmonics, the lowest  potential......that we are
to use for making something "mass-less"........ lower harmonics
create healings of the physical  first...........heat
second.........then light.....................none of this has
anything to do with anti-gravity.....
>
>   thats for nasa.........lol
>
>
>   hermes wanda also uses these principals........
>
>   the principle we are trying to understand is light
harmomics......this will allow
>   travel at the speed of "thought"....geometrically through the
universe, on the
>   waves of eather......
>
>
>
>
>

Well, the way I see it, the cones are constantly falling against the
rings, which isn't smooth but causes tiny vibration. The wobble is
the rhythm, and different metals used for cones and the ring, would
be like genders. You might possibly enhance the 3CD by using a steel
cone in the middle against an aluminum ring, so that the metals
alternate just as the magnet polarities on cones alternate. And maybe
also make the lid from different metal than the bottom.

Jaro

--- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com, Dell Coleman <picotech9999@...>
wrote:
>
> Jaro
> About  the seven laws, how many can we see applying?
>
> 1) THE PRINCIPLE OF MENTALISM
> Henry Ford - already talked about him and the reason why debunkers
> almost always debunk - suck the energy right out.
>
> 2) THE PRINCIPLE OF CORRESPONDENCE
> No idea
>
> 3) THE PRINCIPLE OF VIBRATION
> Yes cones vibrate or form standing waves more or less
>
> 4) THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY
> There are specific magnet polarities in the instructions. There is
more
> polarity in
>
> 5) THE PRINCIPLE OF RHYTHM
> This is repetitive cyclical motion. We want the vibration to  cycle
up
> and down the cone set.
>
> 6) THE PRINCIPLE OF CAUSE AND EFFECT
> Osc effects top rejection, cones effect each other and the bottom
osc.
> Rings effect cone magnets
> Lots of effects.
>
> 7) THE PRINCIPLE OF GENDER
> This is expand and compress. In this setup with the activation
coming
> from the top,
> we first have compression going to the bottom osc, and expansion
coming
> back out.
> At the top and bottom osc, we have reflection, an energy as above,
so
> below, not a physical one.
> The cone configuration gives the gender hint   >>
> It also says the centre cone is both male and female >>>
>
> What is the principle of correspondence about, Jaro? Maybe there is
a
> fit there too.
>
>
> Dell
>
> The relection drives the compression back into expansion
>
>
> starraider25 wrote:
> >
> > Dell,
> > yes, some sounds have healing effects (like cat's purr which
> > accelerates bone healing), but it seems quite likely that if you
add
> > visualization to it, the effect will be much more powerful.
> >
> > And that jing is just mental generation of the Chi energy, which
> > takes years to achieve. I'm looking for something easier, like for
> > example vibrating stones and using visualization on them, like
> > Leedskalnin probably did.
> >
> > And David Hamel's aliens were also big on vibration. They were
saying
> > something like "mass into speed, speed into vibration.."
> >
> > Jaro
> >
> > --- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com <mailto:hameltech%
40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Dell Coleman <picotech9999@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Jaro,
> > > The seven healing sounds are based on the laws of entrainment,
that
> > a
> > > vibration will entrain other suitably disposed objects to
vibrate.
> > The sounds
> > > ss, shh, etc, have been observed align organ function over 2500
> > years.
> > > There is a chinese concept of jing or power which I will
describe
> > badly here,
> > > but it will serve the purpose. There are many types of jing, but
> > the common
> > > characteristic is that is a short sharp stroke, like a Bruce Lee
> > one-inch
> > > punch, but it is in the mind. Thereis no muscle involved
strictly
> > mental.
> > > Then when a physical punch kick etc is given, you can add
thousands
> > of these
> > > little mental strikes to the physical action. You can gather up
> > thousands and
> > > add them to your punch or kick. When you have that then you can
> > imagine the
> > > punch or kick with even more thousands of -> added. By
visualizing
> > this, it
> > > is delivered to the intended opponent. Punch out four guys from
> > across the
> > > room ;) Anyway, jing is beyond most folks, but not quite getting
> > into the
> > > realm of monks lifting stones, etc. Another example of hidden
stuff
> > we might
> > > not normally run across.
> > > Just to add some relevance to Hameltech, it shows that you have
to
> > believe the
> > > effect (success or cone spin up) will happen, or else it wont.
> > Henry Ford
> > > said it best, "Whether you think you can, or think you can't,
> > you're right".
> > > Dell
> > >
> > >
> > > On Monday 07 April 2008 23:38:53 Transworld2 wrote:
> > > > Here are a few thoughts about the Hermes' claim that ancient
> > formula
> > > > of: visualization+vibration=manifestation. The Tibetan monk
stone
> > > > levitation could be an example of this. Those monks used
musical
> > > > instruments and chanting to move a large stone to a cave that
was
> > 250
> > > > meters up and 500m away. And how did the stone know where to
go?
> > Obviously
> > > > it followed the INTENT of those monks, which most likely was
> > applied using
> > > > visualization.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.labyrinthina.com/grid.htm
> > <http://www.labyrinthina.com/grid.htm>
> > > >
> > > > And what about Leedskalnin and his moving large blocks of
stone
> > without any
> > > > heavy equipment? Reportedly he had a network of copper wire
> > several yards
> > > > above the ground. If you power that wire with high voltage AC
> > current,
> > > > you'll get alternating electric field between that wire and
> > ground. Most
> > > > stones have thousands of tiny quartz crystals in them, so if
you
> > put them
> > > > in AC electric field, they'll start to mechanically vibrate,
due
> > to the
> > > > piezoelectric effect.
> > > >
> > > > This is how Leedskalnin could have vibrated those stone
blocks,
> > more
> > > > easily, efficiently and quietly than those Tibetan monks.
Then he
> > just
> > > > might have visualized them rising up and moving where he
wanted
> > them to go.
> > > > He also reportedly talked and sang to those stones, which
might
> > have been
> > > > another part of his technique.
> > > >
> > > > Additionally, he did a lot of reading in a library, and
claimed
> > to have
> > > > known the secret of how pyramids were built. This could have
been
> > something
> > > > he learned from Hermes' writings, since Hermes seems to have
been
> > one of
> > > > the main Egyptian "science teachers".
> > > >
> > > > And regarding sacred sounds like the Aum, those seem to be low
> > frequency
> > > > sounds which will vibrate the body. High frequency sounds
won't
> > work for
> > > > that, because they get dampened by soft tissues. Incidentally,
> > the resonant
> > > > frequency of human body is between 7 and about 12Hz, so even
low
> > intensity
> > > > sounds at those frequencies would propagate deep into the
> > tissues. And if
> > > > you add visualization to that vibration, you might restore
health
> > of the
> > > > body, if Hermes' claim is true.
> > > >
> > > > The video of the Qigong master teaching the 7 healing sounds
> > (that I posted
> > > > last week) would tend to support that also, since he was using
> > > > visualization together with those sounds also.
> > > >
> > > > Jaro
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Transworld2"
> > > > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 7:46 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [aggroup] Possibly Linking Anti-Grav With What
I've
> > Been
> > > > Saying... (Hermes)
> > > >
> > > > > Kenny,
> > > > > I posted about this a while back, proposing that
combinations
> > of certain
> > > > > sounds (like maybe the Fibonacci scale) might produce
higher-
> > dimensional
> > > > > effects. I
> > > >
> > > > found
> > > >
> > > > > interesting info on that website about Hermes. Living in
> > ancient Egypt,
> > > > > that was one smart dude! Anybody wants to know the Greatest
> > Secret of the
> > > > > Universe?
> > > > >
> > > > > I like especially this part: "By bringing together the First
> > and Third
> > > > > Hermetic Law the ancient formula of:
> > > > > visualization+vibration=manifestation may be
> > > >
> > > > induced."
> > > >
> > > > > And what is vibration? SOUND! Also, mechanical and
> > electromagnetic waves.
> > > > >
> > > > >
http://9waysmysteryschool.tripod.com/sacredsoundtools/id17.html
> > <http://9waysmysteryschool.tripod.com/sacredsoundtools/id17.html>
> > > > >
> > > > > "Most important of all are three works: the oldest is
> > the 'Divine
> > > > > Pymander'
> > > >
> > > > which
> > > >
> > > > > contained the divine wisdom and the secrets of the universe
as
> > revealed
> > > > > to
> > > >
> > > > Hermes.
> > > >
> > > > > It consists on 17 fragments all in one work. The second
book of
> > the
> > > > > Divine Pymander was 'Poimmandres'or 'The Vision', it relates
> > Hermes
> > > > > mystical vision, cosmogony, and the secret sciences of the
> > Egyptians and
> > > > > spiritual development of the Soul. The third work is known
> > as 'The
> > > > > Emerald Tablet' or 'The Emerald Table'(Smaragdine Table).
> > According to
> > > > > legend, The Emerald Tablet is said to
> > > >
> > > > have
> > > >
> > > > > been discovered in a caved tomb, clutched in the hands of
the
> > corpse of
> > > > > Hermes Trismegistus. Regarded as the most revered magical
> > document in
> > > > > Western
> > > >
> > > > occultism,
> > > >
> > > > > The Emerald Tablet is the foundation of astrology and
alchemy.
> > The most
> > > > > significant part of The Emerald Tablet is within its opening
> > tractate:
> > > > >
> > > > > " I am Hermes Trismegistus, One in Essence, Three in
Substance.
> > I am
> > > > > Hermes, the Universal Agent or Primordial Life Force, My
Three
> > Aspects
> > > > > are the Male, Female, and Male-Female Principles."
> > > > >
> > > > > " Know then the Greatest Secret of the Universe: As Above,So
> > Below - As
> > > > > Within,
> > > >
> > > > So
> > > >
> > > > > Without".
> > > > >
> > > > > " It is true and most certain that: That which Above
reflects
> > that which
> > > > > is
> > > >
> > > > Below.
> > > >
> > > > > Know this to understand the secret of what is infinitely
large,
> > > > > infinitely small and in between, and the Nature, Form,
> > Structure and
> > > > > Function of all things."
> > > > >
> > > > > " That which is Within reflects that which is Without, know
> > this to
> > > > > understand
> > > >
> > > > the
> > > >
> > > > > Secret of Creation. The inner Divine Fire of Thought
creates the
> > > > > multiplicity of form and texture on earth. Thus, water, fire
> > and spirit
> > > > > mixed by wind are contained within the substance of earth."
> > > > >
> > > > > " With utmost concentration, awareness and focus,
discriminate
> > the
> > > > > Spiritous
> > > >
> > > > Earth
> > > >
> > > > > thus: seperate the Gross from the Subtle, first by gentle
heat,
> > then by
> > > > > great fire. Thus, the Subtle ascends to heaven, the Gross
> > descends to
> > > > > earth, Above and Below are equalized: Within and Without are
> > transmuted.
> > > > > From darkness is born
> > > >
> > > > the
> > > >
> > > > > New Light and the New Energy that penetrates all
substances: the
> > > > > Universal
> > > >
> > > > Solvent
> > > >
> > > > > of Creation."
> > > > >
> > > > > " This is why I am Hermes Trismegistus: I know the Secret
of the
> > > > > Three-In-One, thus is performed the Great Work, the mystery
of
> > the Great
> > > > > Akh-Nun-Ra!"
> > > > >
> > > > > Important to students and practitioners of Sacred Sound is
the
> > KYBALION
> > > > > which contains the tenets of hermetic philosophy known as
The
> > Seven
> > > > > Hermetic
> > > >
> > > > Principles
> > > >
> > > > > or the Seven Laws of Hermes Mercurius Trismegistus.
> > > > >
> > > > > " The principles of Truth are seven; he who knows these,
> > understandingly,
> > > > > possesses the Magic Key before whose touch all the Doors of
the
> > Temple
> > > > > fly
> > > >
> > > > open."
> > > >
> > > > > 1) THE PRINCIPLE OF MENTALISM
> > > > > 2) THE PRINCIPLE OF CORRESPONDENCE
> > > > > 3) THE PRINCIPLE OF VIBRATION
> > > > > 4) THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY
> > > > > 5) THE PRINCIPLE OF RHYTHM
> > > > > 6) THE PRINCIPLE OF CAUSE AND EFFECT
> > > > > 7) THE PRINCIPLE OF GENDER
> > > > >
> > > > > The great Third Principle of Vibration embodies the truth
that
> > motion is
> > > >
> > > > manifest
> > > >
> > > > > in everything in the universe, that nothing is at rest, that
> > everything
> > > > > moves, vibrates, and circles. Every thought, emotion or
mental
> > state has
> > > > > its corresponding rate and mode of vibration. And by an
effort
> > of the
> > > > > Will of the person, or of other persons, these mental states
> > may be
> > > > > reproduced, just as a musical tone may be reproduced by
causing
> > an
> > > > > instrument to vibrate at a certain rate. By bringing
together
> > the First
> > > > > and Third Hermetic Law the ancient formula of:
> > > > > visualization+vibration=manifestation may be induced. "
> > > > >
> > > > > Jaro
> > >
> >
> >
>

Thanks for the link..BTW what is your group?
Tara

On 4/9/08, starraider25 <jaro@...> wrote:
> Well, the way I see it, the cones are constantly falling against the
> rings, which isn't smooth but causes tiny vibration. The wobble is
> the rhythm, and different metals used for cones and the ring, would
> be like genders. You might possibly enhance the 3CD by using a steel
> cone in the middle against an aluminum ring, so that the metals
> alternate just as the magnet polarities on cones alternate. And maybe
> also make the lid from different metal than the bottom.
>
> Jaro
>
> --- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com, Dell Coleman <picotech9999@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Jaro
> > About  the seven laws, how many can we see applying?
> >
> > 1) THE PRINCIPLE OF MENTALISM
> > Henry Ford - already talked about him and the reason why debunkers
> > almost always debunk - suck the energy right out.
> >
> > 2) THE PRINCIPLE OF CORRESPONDENCE
> > No idea
> >
> > 3) THE PRINCIPLE OF VIBRATION
> > Yes cones vibrate or form standing waves more or less
> >
> > 4) THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY
> > There are specific magnet polarities in the instructions. There is
> more
> > polarity in
> >
> > 5) THE PRINCIPLE OF RHYTHM
> > This is repetitive cyclical motion. We want the vibration to  cycle
> up
> > and down the cone set.
> >
> > 6) THE PRINCIPLE OF CAUSE AND EFFECT
> > Osc effects top rejection, cones effect each other and the bottom
> osc.
> > Rings effect cone magnets
> > Lots of effects.
> >
> > 7) THE PRINCIPLE OF GENDER
> > This is expand and compress. In this setup with the activation
> coming
> > from the top,
> > we first have compression going to the bottom osc, and expansion
> coming
> > back out.
> > At the top and bottom osc, we have reflection, an energy as above,
> so
> > below, not a physical one.
> > The cone configuration gives the gender hint   >>
> > It also says the centre cone is both male and female >>>
> >
> > What is the principle of correspondence about, Jaro? Maybe there is
> a
> > fit there too.
> >
> >
> > Dell
> >
> > The relection drives the compression back into expansion
> >
> >
> > starraider25 wrote:
> > >
> > > Dell,
> > > yes, some sounds have healing effects (like cat's purr which
> > > accelerates bone healing), but it seems quite likely that if you
> add
> > > visualization to it, the effect will be much more powerful.
> > >
> > > And that jing is just mental generation of the Chi energy, which
> > > takes years to achieve. I'm looking for something easier, like for
> > > example vibrating stones and using visualization on them, like
> > > Leedskalnin probably did.
> > >
> > > And David Hamel's aliens were also big on vibration. They were
> saying
> > > something like "mass into speed, speed into vibration.."
> > >
> > > Jaro
> > >
> > > --- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com <mailto:hameltech%
> 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > Dell Coleman <picotech9999@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Jaro,
> > > > The seven healing sounds are based on the laws of entrainment,
> that
> > > a
> > > > vibration will entrain other suitably disposed objects to
> vibrate.
> > > The sounds
> > > > ss, shh, etc, have been observed align organ function over 2500
> > > years.
> > > > There is a chinese concept of jing or power which I will
> describe
> > > badly here,
> > > > but it will serve the purpose. There are many types of jing, but
> > > the common
> > > > characteristic is that is a short sharp stroke, like a Bruce Lee
> > > one-inch
> > > > punch, but it is in the mind. Thereis no muscle involved
> strictly
> > > mental.
> > > > Then when a physical punch kick etc is given, you can add
> thousands
> > > of these
> > > > little mental strikes to the physical action. You can gather up
> > > thousands and
> > > > add them to your punch or kick. When you have that then you can
> > > imagine the
> > > > punch or kick with even more thousands of -> added. By
> visualizing
> > > this, it
> > > > is delivered to the intended opponent. Punch out four guys from
> > > across the
> > > > room ;) Anyway, jing is beyond most folks, but not quite getting
> > > into the
> > > > realm of monks lifting stones, etc. Another example of hidden
> stuff
> > > we might
> > > > not normally run across.
> > > > Just to add some relevance to Hameltech, it shows that you have
> to
> > > believe the
> > > > effect (success or cone spin up) will happen, or else it wont.
> > > Henry Ford
> > > > said it best, "Whether you think you can, or think you can't,
> > > you're right".
> > > > Dell
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Monday 07 April 2008 23:38:53 Transworld2 wrote:
> > > > > Here are a few thoughts about the Hermes' claim that ancient
> > > formula
> > > > > of: visualization+vibration=manifestation. The Tibetan monk
> stone
> > > > > levitation could be an example of this. Those monks used
> musical
> > > > > instruments and chanting to move a large stone to a cave that
> was
> > > 250
> > > > > meters up and 500m away. And how did the stone know where to
> go?
> > > Obviously
> > > > > it followed the INTENT of those monks, which most likely was
> > > applied using
> > > > > visualization.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.labyrinthina.com/grid.htm
> > > <http://www.labyrinthina.com/grid.htm>
> > > > >
> > > > > And what about Leedskalnin and his moving large blocks of
> stone
> > > without any
> > > > > heavy equipment? Reportedly he had a network of copper wire
> > > several yards
> > > > > above the ground. If you power that wire with high voltage AC
> > > current,
> > > > > you'll get alternating electric field between that wire and
> > > ground. Most
> > > > > stones have thousands of tiny quartz crystals in them, so if
> you
> > > put them
> > > > > in AC electric field, they'll start to mechanically vibrate,
> due
> > > to the
> > > > > piezoelectric effect.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is how Leedskalnin could have vibrated those stone
> blocks,
> > > more
> > > > > easily, efficiently and quietly than those Tibetan monks.
> Then he
> > > just
> > > > > might have visualized them rising up and moving where he
> wanted
> > > them to go.
> > > > > He also reportedly talked and sang to those stones, which
> might
> > > have been
> > > > > another part of his technique.
> > > > >
> > > > > Additionally, he did a lot of reading in a library, and
> claimed
> > > to have
> > > > > known the secret of how pyramids were built. This could have
> been
> > > something
> > > > > he learned from Hermes' writings, since Hermes seems to have
> been
> > > one of
> > > > > the main Egyptian "science teachers".
> > > > >
> > > > > And regarding sacred sounds like the Aum, those seem to be low
> > > frequency
> > > > > sounds which will vibrate the body. High frequency sounds
> won't
> > > work for
> > > > > that, because they get dampened by soft tissues. Incidentally,
> > > the resonant
> > > > > frequency of human body is between 7 and about 12Hz, so even
> low
> > > intensity
> > > > > sounds at those frequencies would propagate deep into the
> > > tissues. And if
> > > > > you add visualization to that vibration, you might restore
> health
> > > of the
> > > > > body, if Hermes' claim is true.
> > > > >
> > > > > The video of the Qigong master teaching the 7 healing sounds
> > > (that I posted
> > > > > last week) would tend to support that also, since he was using
> > > > > visualization together with those sounds also.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jaro
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Transworld2"
> > > > > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 7:46 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [aggroup] Possibly Linking Anti-Grav With What
> I've
> > > Been
> > > > > Saying... (Hermes)
> > > > >
> > > > > > Kenny,
> > > > > > I posted about this a while back, proposing that
> combinations
> > > of certain
> > > > > > sounds (like maybe the Fibonacci scale) might produce
> higher-
> > > dimensional
> > > > > > effects. I
> > > > >
> > > > > found
> > > > >
> > > > > > interesting info on that website about Hermes. Living in
> > > ancient Egypt,
> > > > > > that was one smart dude! Anybody wants to know the Greatest
> > > Secret of the
> > > > > > Universe?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I like especially this part: "By bringing together the First
> > > and Third
> > > > > > Hermetic Law the ancient formula of:
> > > > > > visualization+vibration=manifestation may be
> > > > >
> > > > > induced."
> > > > >
> > > > > > And what is vibration? SOUND! Also, mechanical and
> > > electromagnetic waves.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> http://9waysmysteryschool.tripod.com/sacredsoundtools/id17.html
> > > <http://9waysmysteryschool.tripod.com/sacredsoundtools/id17.html>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Most important of all are three works: the oldest is
> > > the 'Divine
> > > > > > Pymander'
> > > > >
> > > > > which
> > > > >
> > > > > > contained the divine wisdom and the secrets of the universe
> as
> > > revealed
> > > > > > to
> > > > >
> > > > > Hermes.
> > > > >
> > > > > > It consists on 17 fragments all in one work. The second
> book of
> > > the
> > > > > > Divine Pymander was 'Poimmandres'or 'The Vision', it relates
> > > Hermes
> > > > > > mystical vision, cosmogony, and the secret sciences of the
> > > Egyptians and
> > > > > > spiritual development of the Soul. The third work is known
> > > as 'The
> > > > > > Emerald Tablet' or 'The Emerald Table'(Smaragdine Table).
> > > According to
> > > > > > legend, The Emerald Tablet is said to
> > > > >
> > > > > have
> > > > >
> > > > > > been discovered in a caved tomb, clutched in the hands of
> the
> > > corpse of
> > > > > > Hermes Trismegistus. Regarded as the most revered magical
> > > document in
> > > > > > Western
> > > > >
> > > > > occultism,
> > > > >
> > > > > > The Emerald Tablet is the foundation of astrology and
> alchemy.
> > > The most
> > > > > > significant part of The Emerald Tablet is within its opening
> > > tractate:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > " I am Hermes Trismegistus, One in Essence, Three in
> Substance.
> > > I am
> > > > > > Hermes, the Universal Agent or Primordial Life Force, My
> Three
> > > Aspects
> > > > > > are the Male, Female, and Male-Female Principles."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > " Know then the Greatest Secret of the Universe: As Above,So
> > > Below - As
> > > > > > Within,
> > > > >
> > > > > So
> > > > >
> > > > > > Without".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > " It is true and most certain that: That which Above
> reflects
> > > that which
> > > > > > is
> > > > >
> > > > > Below.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Know this to understand the secret of what is infinitely
> large,
> > > > > > infinitely small and in between, and the Nature, Form,
> > > Structure and
> > > > > > Function of all things."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > " That which is Within reflects that which is Without, know
> > > this to
> > > > > > understand
> > > > >
> > > > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > > Secret of Creation. The inner Divine Fire of Thought
> creates the
> > > > > > multiplicity of form and texture on earth. Thus, water, fire
> > > and spirit
> > > > > > mixed by wind are contained within the substance of earth."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > " With utmost concentration, awareness and focus,
> discriminate
> > > the
> > > > > > Spiritous
> > > > >
> > > > > Earth
> > > > >
> > > > > > thus: seperate the Gross from the Subtle, first by gentle
> heat,
> > > then by
> > > > > > great fire. Thus, the Subtle ascends to heaven, the Gross
> > > descends to
> > > > > > earth, Above and Below are equalized: Within and Without are
> > > transmuted.
> > > > > > From darkness is born
> > > > >
> > > > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > > New Light and the New Energy that penetrates all
> substances: the
> > > > > > Universal
> > > > >
> > > > > Solvent
> > > > >
> > > > > > of Creation."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > " This is why I am Hermes Trismegistus: I know the Secret
> of the
> > > > > > Three-In-One, thus is performed the Great Work, the mystery
> of
> > > the Great
> > > > > > Akh-Nun-Ra!"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Important to students and practitioners of Sacred Sound is
> the
> > > KYBALION
> > > > > > which contains the tenets of hermetic philosophy known as
> The
> > > Seven
> > > > > > Hermetic
> > > > >
> > > > > Principles
> > > > >
> > > > > > or the Seven Laws of Hermes Mercurius Trismegistus.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > " The principles of Truth are seven; he who knows these,
> > > understandingly,
> > > > > > possesses the Magic Key before whose touch all the Doors of
> the
> > > Temple
> > > > > > fly
> > > > >
> > > > > open."
> > > > >
> > > > > > 1) THE PRINCIPLE OF MENTALISM
> > > > > > 2) THE PRINCIPLE OF CORRESPONDENCE
> > > > > > 3) THE PRINCIPLE OF VIBRATION
> > > > > > 4) THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY
> > > > > > 5) THE PRINCIPLE OF RHYTHM
> > > > > > 6) THE PRINCIPLE OF CAUSE AND EFFECT
> > > > > > 7) THE PRINCIPLE OF GENDER
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The great Third Principle of Vibration embodies the truth
> that
> > > motion is
> > > > >
> > > > > manifest
> > > > >
> > > > > > in everything in the universe, that nothing is at rest, that
> > > everything
> > > > > > moves, vibrates, and circles. Every thought, emotion or
> mental
> > > state has
> > > > > > its corresponding rate and mode of vibration. And by an
> effort
> > > of the
> > > > > > Will of the person, or of other persons, these mental states
> > > may be
> > > > > > reproduced, just as a musical tone may be reproduced by
> causing
> > > an
> > > > > > instrument to vibrate at a certain rate. By bringing
> together
> > > the First
> > > > > > and Third Hermetic Law the ancient formula of:
> > > > > > visualization+vibration=manifestation may be induced. "
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jaro
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>

yup...anything involving David's physics...I am a true
believer...always will be...not matter what.
These principles not only work towards the 3CD, they cover all
aspects of the atlanteian sciences. science farther advanced than
anything used today.
Flower of Life is also the mirror of the principles.
Hermetic...like Hermes...like Thoth, since thoth the atlanteian is
behind the knowledge that David knew and what we have here.
His principles are for the understanding of the implosion physics
using sacred geometry.

Matt


--- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com, "starraider25" <jaro@...> wrote:
>
> Ha ha, Matt, you speak like a true believer (regarding the 3CD).
Here
> are a few of my thoughts:
>
> 1) THE PRINCIPLE OF MENTALISM - Visualization/Thoughts affect
reality
>
> 3) THE PRINCIPLE OF VIBRATION - By changing vibration, we can
change
> reality?
>
> 4) THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY - Does that mean that everything has a
> polar opposite, including matter and energy?
>
>
> 5) THE PRINCIPLE OF RHYTHM - If everything is cyclic, then we
should
> use that in our technology. Don't just use a single frequency,
change
> it repeatedly. AM and FM modulation would be examples of simple
> cyclicism. Also, AC current is a simple rhytm.
>
>
> 6) THE PRINCIPLE OF CAUSE AND EFFECT - For every cause there is an
> effect, even if we can't see or detect it.
>
>
> 7) THE PRINCIPLE OF GENDER - Somebody help me here. How gender is
> different from polarity/duality? Would that be that by combining
male
> and female we get something new?
>
> Jaro
>
> --- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com, "demondoppel" <mattihorn@> wrote:
> >
> > Here Dell...some of my own thoughts...for the group:
> >
> > > 1) THE PRINCIPLE OF MENTALISM
> >   All things are united...unity through the 'source'...the
> underlying
> > field of the universe. We are mentally involved with the cosmos
and
> > how it is percieved by us. We work through the source even if we
> > don't know it. We can change the environment to better
> > ourselves...using the mind....and through unity.
> > The 3CD is state of perfection for true physics. It is a
beautiful
> > technology...and reflects the unity of those who practice this
> > technology.
> > >
> > > 2) THE PRINCIPLE OF CORRESPONDENCE
> >   "As Above so below" As within....so without. All things of
lower
> > correspond to those of the higher. 3rd dimension to the 5th
> dimension.
> > Geometry and working through dimensions to get to the source
> of 'all
> > that is'. The 3CD works from the 3rd dimension to get to the 5th
> > dimension.
> > >
> > > 3) THE PRINCIPLE OF VIBRATION
> > Nothing rests....all is vibrating...all the time. Higher the
> > vibration...greater the energy output. A 3CD will thus be of the
> > higher magnitude under full operation. It will never
> rest...perpetual.
> > >
> > > 4) THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY
> > Duality, magnetism, hot and cold, opposites, like and unlike
> > The 3CD, this would be the South/North/South configuration and
also
> > the repulsion. Magnetism involved. Compression and uncompression
of
> > the cone into the ring.
> > >
> > > 5) THE PRINCIPLE OF RHYTHM
> > Everything flows, in and out. Tides...standing waves.
> > swing...vibration. timing...like a drummer. cyclic.
> > The 3CD is cyclic since it is a standing wave inside the
> containment.
> > It will thus never come to rest....repeating patterns and seeking
> out
> > natural order through geometry.
> > >
> > > 6) THE PRINCIPLE OF CAUSE AND EFFECT
> > To every action there is always an opposite reaction.
> > Cause and effect. Vibration to matter. Vibration leads to
> > manifestation. Magnetism is a principle natural force of creation.
> > The 3CD: each cone is affecting the other and in turn being
> affected.
> > A cause and effect interplay.
> > >
> > > 7) THE PRINCIPLE OF GENDER
> > Masculine and feminine.
> > scientific and also spiritual.
> > Masculine: will, force, sending, outward expressive, rigidity
> > Feminine: creativity, intuition, nature, flexibility.
> > The 3CD is nature...it is working according to nature and yet it
is
> > contained in ridigity (frame)...in order to function. It also has
> > flexibility, as to where the cones are concerned, as they are
able
> to
> > move. 3CD is science and yet it is also spiritual since it is
> tapping
> > into God or the Source. A unification...but also realizing of
both
> > something to use and something to believe in.
> >
> >
> > Matt
> >
>

you can't use steel anywhere in the 3CD, as it would affect the
magnetism and also the electric field being generated...and the steel
would obviously become polarized in time. I know that some may use
steel bands to smooth out the magnetic fields.
The whole unit should be maded out of non-magnetic metals.
You want to keep the magnetism where it is as a toroidal shape.
David made clear not to get involved with magnetic metals.
He's the man...so we must listen to him :)

Matt

--- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com, "starraider25" <jaro@...> wrote:
>
> Well, the way I see it, the cones are constantly falling against
the
> rings, which isn't smooth but causes tiny vibration. The wobble is
> the rhythm, and different metals used for cones and the ring, would
> be like genders. You might possibly enhance the 3CD by using a
steel
> cone in the middle against an aluminum ring, so that the metals
> alternate just as the magnet polarities on cones alternate. And
maybe
> also make the lid from different metal than the bottom.
>
> Jaro
>
> --- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com, Dell Coleman <picotech9999@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Jaro
> > About  the seven laws, how many can we see applying?
> >
> > 1) THE PRINCIPLE OF MENTALISM
> > Henry Ford - already talked about him and the reason why
debunkers
> > almost always debunk - suck the energy right out.
> >
> > 2) THE PRINCIPLE OF CORRESPONDENCE
> > No idea
> >
> > 3) THE PRINCIPLE OF VIBRATION
> > Yes cones vibrate or form standing waves more or less
> >
> > 4) THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY
> > There are specific magnet polarities in the instructions. There
is
> more
> > polarity in
> >
> > 5) THE PRINCIPLE OF RHYTHM
> > This is repetitive cyclical motion. We want the vibration to
cycle
> up
> > and down the cone set.
> >
> > 6) THE PRINCIPLE OF CAUSE AND EFFECT
> > Osc effects top rejection, cones effect each other and the bottom
> osc.
> > Rings effect cone magnets
> > Lots of effects.
> >
> > 7) THE PRINCIPLE OF GENDER
> > This is expand and compress. In this setup with the activation
> coming
> > from the top,
> > we first have compression going to the bottom osc, and expansion
> coming
> > back out.
> > At the top and bottom osc, we have reflection, an energy as
above,
> so
> > below, not a physical one.
> > The cone configuration gives the gender hint   >>
> > It also says the centre cone is both male and female >>>
> >
> > What is the principle of correspondence about, Jaro? Maybe there
is
> a
> > fit there too.
> >
> >
> > Dell
> >
> > The relection drives the compression back into expansion
> >
> >
> > starraider25 wrote:
> > >
> > > Dell,
> > > yes, some sounds have healing effects (like cat's purr which
> > > accelerates bone healing), but it seems quite likely that if
you
> add
> > > visualization to it, the effect will be much more powerful.
> > >
> > > And that jing is just mental generation of the Chi energy, which
> > > takes years to achieve. I'm looking for something easier, like
for
> > > example vibrating stones and using visualization on them, like
> > > Leedskalnin probably did.
> > >
> > > And David Hamel's aliens were also big on vibration. They were
> saying
> > > something like "mass into speed, speed into vibration.."
> > >
> > > Jaro
> > >
> > > --- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com <mailto:hameltech%
> 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > Dell Coleman <picotech9999@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Jaro,
> > > > The seven healing sounds are based on the laws of
entrainment,
> that
> > > a
> > > > vibration will entrain other suitably disposed objects to
> vibrate.
> > > The sounds
> > > > ss, shh, etc, have been observed align organ function over
2500
> > > years.
> > > > There is a chinese concept of jing or power which I will
> describe
> > > badly here,
> > > > but it will serve the purpose. There are many types of jing,
but
> > > the common
> > > > characteristic is that is a short sharp stroke, like a Bruce
Lee
> > > one-inch
> > > > punch, but it is in the mind. Thereis no muscle involved
> strictly
> > > mental.
> > > > Then when a physical punch kick etc is given, you can add
> thousands
> > > of these
> > > > little mental strikes to the physical action. You can gather
up
> > > thousands and
> > > > add them to your punch or kick. When you have that then you
can
> > > imagine the
> > > > punch or kick with even more thousands of -> added. By
> visualizing
> > > this, it
> > > > is delivered to the intended opponent. Punch out four guys
from
> > > across the
> > > > room ;) Anyway, jing is beyond most folks, but not quite
getting
> > > into the
> > > > realm of monks lifting stones, etc. Another example of hidden
> stuff
> > > we might
> > > > not normally run across.
> > > > Just to add some relevance to Hameltech, it shows that you
have
> to
> > > believe the
> > > > effect (success or cone spin up) will happen, or else it wont.
> > > Henry Ford
> > > > said it best, "Whether you think you can, or think you can't,
> > > you're right".
> > > > Dell
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Monday 07 April 2008 23:38:53 Transworld2 wrote:
> > > > > Here are a few thoughts about the Hermes' claim that ancient
> > > formula
> > > > > of: visualization+vibration=manifestation. The Tibetan monk
> stone
> > > > > levitation could be an example of this. Those monks used
> musical
> > > > > instruments and chanting to move a large stone to a cave
that
> was
> > > 250
> > > > > meters up and 500m away. And how did the stone know where
to
> go?
> > > Obviously
> > > > > it followed the INTENT of those monks, which most likely was
> > > applied using
> > > > > visualization.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.labyrinthina.com/grid.htm
> > > <http://www.labyrinthina.com/grid.htm>
> > > > >
> > > > > And what about Leedskalnin and his moving large blocks of
> stone
> > > without any
> > > > > heavy equipment? Reportedly he had a network of copper wire
> > > several yards
> > > > > above the ground. If you power that wire with high voltage
AC
> > > current,
> > > > > you'll get alternating electric field between that wire and
> > > ground. Most
> > > > > stones have thousands of tiny quartz crystals in them, so
if
> you
> > > put them
> > > > > in AC electric field, they'll start to mechanically
vibrate,
> due
> > > to the
> > > > > piezoelectric effect.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is how Leedskalnin could have vibrated those stone
> blocks,
> > > more
> > > > > easily, efficiently and quietly than those Tibetan monks.
> Then he
> > > just
> > > > > might have visualized them rising up and moving where he
> wanted
> > > them to go.
> > > > > He also reportedly talked and sang to those stones, which
> might
> > > have been
> > > > > another part of his technique.
> > > > >
> > > > > Additionally, he did a lot of reading in a library, and
> claimed
> > > to have
> > > > > known the secret of how pyramids were built. This could
have
> been
> > > something
> > > > > he learned from Hermes' writings, since Hermes seems to
have
> been
> > > one of
> > > > > the main Egyptian "science teachers".
> > > > >
> > > > > And regarding sacred sounds like the Aum, those seem to be
low
> > > frequency
> > > > > sounds which will vibrate the body. High frequency sounds
> won't
> > > work for
> > > > > that, because they get dampened by soft tissues.
Incidentally,
> > > the resonant
> > > > > frequency of human body is between 7 and about 12Hz, so
even
> low
> > > intensity
> > > > > sounds at those frequencies would propagate deep into the
> > > tissues. And if
> > > > > you add visualization to that vibration, you might restore
> health
> > > of the
> > > > > body, if Hermes' claim is true.
> > > > >
> > > > > The video of the Qigong master teaching the 7 healing sounds
> > > (that I posted
> > > > > last week) would tend to support that also, since he was
using
> > > > > visualization together with those sounds also.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jaro
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Transworld2"
> > > > > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 7:46 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [aggroup] Possibly Linking Anti-Grav With What
> I've
> > > Been
> > > > > Saying... (Hermes)
> > > > >
> > > > > > Kenny,
> > > > > > I posted about this a while back, proposing that
> combinations
> > > of certain
> > > > > > sounds (like maybe the Fibonacci scale) might produce
> higher-
> > > dimensional
> > > > > > effects. I
> > > > >
> > > > > found
> > > > >
> > > > > > interesting info on that website about Hermes. Living in
> > > ancient Egypt,
> > > > > > that was one smart dude! Anybody wants to know the
Greatest
> > > Secret of the
> > > > > > Universe?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I like especially this part: "By bringing together the
First
> > > and Third
> > > > > > Hermetic Law the ancient formula of:
> > > > > > visualization+vibration=manifestation may be
> > > > >
> > > > > induced."
> > > > >
> > > > > > And what is vibration? SOUND! Also, mechanical and
> > > electromagnetic waves.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> http://9waysmysteryschool.tripod.com/sacredsoundtools/id17.html
> > >
<http://9waysmysteryschool.tripod.com/sacredsoundtools/id17.html>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Most important of all are three works: the oldest is
> > > the 'Divine
> > > > > > Pymander'
> > > > >
> > > > > which
> > > > >
> > > > > > contained the divine wisdom and the secrets of the
universe
> as
> > > revealed
> > > > > > to
> > > > >
> > > > > Hermes.
> > > > >
> > > > > > It consists on 17 fragments all in one work. The second
> book of
> > > the
> > > > > > Divine Pymander was 'Poimmandres'or 'The Vision', it
relates
> > > Hermes
> > > > > > mystical vision, cosmogony, and the secret sciences of the
> > > Egyptians and
> > > > > > spiritual development of the Soul. The third work is known
> > > as 'The
> > > > > > Emerald Tablet' or 'The Emerald Table'(Smaragdine Table).
> > > According to
> > > > > > legend, The Emerald Tablet is said to
> > > > >
> > > > > have
> > > > >
> > > > > > been discovered in a caved tomb, clutched in the hands of
> the
> > > corpse of
> > > > > > Hermes Trismegistus. Regarded as the most revered magical
> > > document in
> > > > > > Western
> > > > >
> > > > > occultism,
> > > > >
> > > > > > The Emerald Tablet is the foundation of astrology and
> alchemy.
> > > The most
> > > > > > significant part of The Emerald Tablet is within its
opening
> > > tractate:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > " I am Hermes Trismegistus, One in Essence, Three in
> Substance.
> > > I am
> > > > > > Hermes, the Universal Agent or Primordial Life Force, My
> Three
> > > Aspects
> > > > > > are the Male, Female, and Male-Female Principles."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > " Know then the Greatest Secret of the Universe: As
Above,So
> > > Below - As
> > > > > > Within,
> > > > >
> > > > > So
> > > > >
> > > > > > Without".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > " It is true and most certain that: That which Above
> reflects
> > > that which
> > > > > > is
> > > > >
> > > > > Below.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Know this to understand the secret of what is infinitely
> large,
> > > > > > infinitely small and in between, and the Nature, Form,
> > > Structure and
> > > > > > Function of all things."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > " That which is Within reflects that which is Without,
know
> > > this to
> > > > > > understand
> > > > >
> > > > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > > Secret of Creation. The inner Divine Fire of Thought
> creates the
> > > > > > multiplicity of form and texture on earth. Thus, water,
fire
> > > and spirit
> > > > > > mixed by wind are contained within the substance of
earth."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > " With utmost concentration, awareness and focus,
> discriminate
> > > the
> > > > > > Spiritous
> > > > >
> > > > > Earth
> > > > >
> > > > > > thus: seperate the Gross from the Subtle, first by gentle
> heat,
> > > then by
> > > > > > great fire. Thus, the Subtle ascends to heaven, the Gross
> > > descends to
> > > > > > earth, Above and Below are equalized: Within and Without
are
> > > transmuted.
> > > > > > From darkness is born
> > > > >
> > > > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > > New Light and the New Energy that penetrates all
> substances: the
> > > > > > Universal
> > > > >
> > > > > Solvent
> > > > >
> > > > > > of Creation."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > " This is why I am Hermes Trismegistus: I know the Secret
> of the
> > > > > > Three-In-One, thus is performed the Great Work, the
mystery
> of
> > > the Great
> > > > > > Akh-Nun-Ra!"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Important to students and practitioners of Sacred Sound
is
> the
> > > KYBALION
> > > > > > which contains the tenets of hermetic philosophy known as
> The
> > > Seven
> > > > > > Hermetic
> > > > >
> > > > > Principles
> > > > >
> > > > > > or the Seven Laws of Hermes Mercurius Trismegistus.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > " The principles of Truth are seven; he who knows these,
> > > understandingly,
> > > > > > possesses the Magic Key before whose touch all the Doors
of
> the
> > > Temple
> > > > > > fly
> > > > >
> > > > > open."
> > > > >
> > > > > > 1) THE PRINCIPLE OF MENTALISM
> > > > > > 2) THE PRINCIPLE OF CORRESPONDENCE
> > > > > > 3) THE PRINCIPLE OF VIBRATION
> > > > > > 4) THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY
> > > > > > 5) THE PRINCIPLE OF RHYTHM
> > > > > > 6) THE PRINCIPLE OF CAUSE AND EFFECT
> > > > > > 7) THE PRINCIPLE OF GENDER
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The great Third Principle of Vibration embodies the truth
> that
> > > motion is
> > > > >
> > > > > manifest
> > > > >
> > > > > > in everything in the universe, that nothing is at rest,
that
> > > everything
> > > > > > moves, vibrates, and circles. Every thought, emotion or
> mental
> > > state has
> > > > > > its corresponding rate and mode of vibration. And by an
> effort
> > > of the
> > > > > > Will of the person, or of other persons, these mental
states
> > > may be
> > > > > > reproduced, just as a musical tone may be reproduced by
> causing
> > > an
> > > > > > instrument to vibrate at a certain rate. By bringing
> together
> > > the First
> > > > > > and Third Hermetic Law the ancient formula of:
> > > > > > visualization+vibration=manifestation may be induced. "
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jaro
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

sorry......but from what you wrote here........you don't even

understand the materials in which the wand is composed of.......

......never mind the forms and orders............and heres a point...

you worte" in electric terms"....this think tank has nothing or 

anything to do with "electricity" or its terms......in fact....electricity

is the dark, and we are working on the light........all terms used

 in our present scientific understanding of the world.....are

useless to us here, they are incorrect in meaning......like davids use of

 "isotope line"......his meaning is far different..........

 

also all seven of those principals would have to be mastered by the human potential...therefore .......they are all present and in use....".all seven".......the

wand is an extention of the self.......

 

gender? duality?.....women are special creatures...who have a birth right to duality....(its easier for a women to step up, understand, complete the role of a man, in every way .......but a man has great difficulty in duality, if he ever understands it...... example....look at alchemy plates.....you see the alchemist working....but who is his helper????  a women!!!   why???  because it completes the circuit,,,,,,, we are manipulating "subtle energy."...i've seen magnets change polarity (go from repelling to attraction) at davids and my home, because the circuit was completed when a women sat down, as compared to two men or two women.......but mix it, man and  women.....the circuit is complete.......you have creation.....why do you think the ying-yang is in a circle? because once there together .....they are one....complete...

enough of this...............

 

starraider25 <jaro@...> wrote:

Yes, Hermes' caduceus could have been an example of these principles.
A male and female snake, opposite to each other, and rhytmically
coiling up. In electric terms, that'd be a twisted bifilar wire, with
each wire powered in different polarity. Add frequency (vibration)
and AM modulation (rhytm), and you've got most of those Hermes'
principles in it.

Jaro

--- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com, granite spider <granite8rok@...>
wrote:
>
> please scroll down.......
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> |
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> \ | /
> \ | /
> \ | /
> \|/
>
>
>
>

>
>
>
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>
| oopps........
>
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>
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>
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>
>
> chapter 11...sound circle...music of the spheres
within the genesis model
>
> maybe this is why old eddy of the coral castle toned a G# in the
fifth and a D,....... 180 degrees apart.....and the D is at the point
of creation(starte new cycle) on the fib. scale.....the interval of
semi-tones is 6 (the star of david).......interval name ? augmented
fourth......characteristic?...neutral or restless....the D also
matches the gematrian sine curve.....
>
> being two harmonic opposites,this sets up the energy
potential............the disruption of the sub-atomic .......harmonic
minimums create the void from which the spark generated at the
harmonic maximum by the star is created
>
> this is sound harmonics, the lowest potential......that we are
to use for making something "mass-less"........ lower harmonics
create healings of the physical first...........heat
second.........then light.....................none of this has
anything to do with anti-gravity.....
>
> thats for nasa.........lol
>
>
> hermes wanda also uses these principals........
>
> the principle we are trying to understand is light
harmomics......this will allow
> travel at the speed of "thought"....geometrically through the
universe, on the
> waves of eather......
>
>
>
>
>

also remember that g# is actually concert A in the
Verdi Tuning ,which was the scientifically correct
tuning until 1939,when Goebbels bumped up concert A to
440 cps....
       thats the history that many peeps forget or is
written out,,,kinda like how Tesla has been dealt with

sal garza <salgarza@...> wrote:

also remember that g# is actually concert A in the
Verdi Tuning ,which was the scientifically correct
tuning until 1939,when Goebbels bumped up concert A to
440 cps....
thats the history that many peeps forget or is
written out,,,kinda like how Tesla has been dealt with

Hi
If C has been at 256 for centuries, does that not pretty much fix the A?
Some proper proportion of c1=256 and c2=512 ?  In playing with this some
time ago it seemed you needed to get to 96th or 128th before you could
actually compensate for the gaps where there are sharps and not sharps.
In other words I haveto admit there is plenty of room to play. I'm a big
fan of getting rid of the well tampered scale ;)
DC

On Wednesday 09 April 2008 20:47:48 granite spider wrote:
>     i ran into this info, in an old book.......quite some time ago.........
>
>    excellent post......
>
>
>
> sal garza <salgarza@...> wrote:           also remember that g# is
> actually concert A in the Verdi Tuning ,which was the scientifically
> correct
> tuning until 1939,when Goebbels bumped up concert A to
> 440 cps....
> thats the history that many peeps forget or is
> written out,,,kinda like how Tesla has been dealt with

Anybody can say, You don't understand it, only I do. But do you? Why
don't you then tell us what are the materials in which the wand is
composed of? Let's see the superior knowledge you claim to have.

Jaro

--- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com, granite spider <granite8rok@...>
wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> sorry......but from what you wrote here........you don't even
>   understand the materials in which the wand is composed of.......
>   ......never mind the forms and orders............and heres a
point...
>   you worte" in electric terms"....this think tank has nothing or
>   anything to do with "electricity" or its terms......in
fact....electricity
>   is the dark, and we are working on the light........all terms used
>    in our present scientific understanding of the world.....are
>   useless to us here, they are incorrect in meaning......like
davids use of
>    "isotope line"......his meaning is far different..........
>
>   also all seven of those principals would have to be mastered by
the human potential...therefore .......they are all present and in
use....".all seven".......the
>   wand is an extention of the self.......
>
>   gender? duality?.....women are special creatures...who have a
birth right to duality....(its easier for a women to step up,
understand, complete the role of a man, in every way .......but a man
has great difficulty in duality, if he ever understands it......
example....look at alchemy plates.....you see the alchemist
working....but who is his helper????  a women!!!   why???  because it
completes the circuit,,,,,,, we are manipulating "subtle
energy."...i've seen magnets change polarity (go from repelling to
attraction) at davids and my home, because the circuit was completed
when a women sat down, as compared to two men or two women.......but
mix it, man and  women.....the circuit is complete.......you have
creation.....why do you think the ying-yang is in a circle? because
once there together .....they are one....complete...
>   enough of this...............
>
>
> starraider25 <jaro@...> wrote:
>           Yes, Hermes' caduceus could have been an example of these
principles.
> A male and female snake, opposite to each other, and rhytmically
> coiling up. In electric terms, that'd be a twisted bifilar wire,
with
> each wire powered in different polarity. Add frequency (vibration)
> and AM modulation (rhytm), and you've got most of those Hermes'
> principles in it.
>
> Jaro

It's aggroup.

Jaro

--- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com, "lady hawk" <tarabead@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the link..BTW what is your group?
> Tara
>
> On 4/9/08, starraider25 <jaro@...> wrote:
> > Well, the way I see it, the cones are constantly falling against
the
> > rings, which isn't smooth but causes tiny vibration. The wobble is
> > the rhythm, and different metals used for cones and the ring,
would
> > be like genders. You might possibly enhance the 3CD by using a
steel
> > cone in the middle against an aluminum ring, so that the metals
> > alternate just as the magnet polarities on cones alternate. And
maybe
> > also make the lid from different metal than the bottom.
> >
> > Jaro

Now Jaro,
how can we be hiding the hidden with that kind of approach. Everyone would be
a priest and everyone would have the knowledge of the gods.
How would they keep an edge?
Dell

On Wednesday 09 April 2008 22:50:05 starraider25 wrote:
> Anybody can say, You don't understand it, only I do. But do you? Why
> don't you then tell us what are the materials in which the wand is
> composed of? Let's see the superior knowledge you claim to have.
>
> Jaro
>
> --- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com, granite spider <granite8rok@...>
>
> wrote:
> > sorry......but from what you wrote here........you don't even
> >   understand the materials in which the wand is composed of.......
> >   ......never mind the forms and orders............and heres a
>
> point...
>
> >   you worte" in electric terms"....this think tank has nothing or
> >   anything to do with "electricity" or its terms......in
>
> fact....electricity
>
> >   is the dark, and we are working on the light........all terms used
> >    in our present scientific understanding of the world.....are
> >   useless to us here, they are incorrect in meaning......like
>
> davids use of
>
> >    "isotope line"......his meaning is far different..........
> >
> >   also all seven of those principals would have to be mastered by
>
> the human potential...therefore .......they are all present and in
> use....".all seven".......the
>
> >   wand is an extention of the self.......
> >
> >   gender? duality?.....women are special creatures...who have a
>
> birth right to duality....(its easier for a women to step up,
> understand, complete the role of a man, in every way .......but a man
> has great difficulty in duality, if he ever understands it......
> example....look at alchemy plates.....you see the alchemist
> working....but who is his helper????  a women!!!   why???  because it
> completes the circuit,,,,,,, we are manipulating "subtle
> energy."...i've seen magnets change polarity (go from repelling to
> attraction) at davids and my home, because the circuit was completed
> when a women sat down, as compared to two men or two women.......but
> mix it, man and  women.....the circuit is complete.......you have
> creation.....why do you think the ying-yang is in a circle? because
> once there together .....they are one....complete...
>
> >   enough of this...............
> >
> >
> > starraider25 <jaro@...> wrote:
> >           Yes, Hermes' caduceus could have been an example of these
>
> principles.
>
> > A male and female snake, opposite to each other, and rhytmically
> > coiling up. In electric terms, that'd be a twisted bifilar wire,
>
> with
>
> > each wire powered in different polarity. Add frequency (vibration)
> > and AM modulation (rhytm), and you've got most of those Hermes'
> > principles in it.
> >
> > Jaro

Isn't the wand also called the rod of god?
Curious because William Henry mentions it:

http://www.williamhenry.net/store.html
REVELATION 2012: EYE OF THE NEEDLE

"Maya prophecy says a stargate will open in 2012. An enlightened
being or a group will emerge. William Henry answers a key question:
who will open the door?

Jewish legend, and Essene texts, tells of the arrival of the
Peacemaker, the herald or forerunner of the Christ or Messiah. In
addition to opening the door for the Christ, this figure has a `to
do' list. This groundbreaking work is the first modern and complete
introduction to this astonishing mission, which includes assembling
the Ark of the Covenant, the Anointing oil of the Magdalene, the
Flask of Manna and the Holy Rod of God into one remarkable super
technology."

I don't think anyone is going to know how this rod of god is built
unless they are 5th dimensional. They will have to be advanced.

But good luck anyways in figuring it out!

I'd say 440 has something to do with it.

Matt




--- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com, Dell Coleman <picotech9999@...>
wrote:
>
> Now Jaro,
> how can we be hiding the hidden with that kind of approach.
Everyone would be
> a priest and everyone would have the knowledge of the gods.
> How would they keep an edge?
> Dell
>
> On Wednesday 09 April 2008 22:50:05 starraider25 wrote:
> > Anybody can say, You don't understand it, only I do. But do you?
Why
> > don't you then tell us what are the materials in which the wand is
> > composed of? Let's see the superior knowledge you claim to have.
> >
> > Jaro
> >
> > --- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com, granite spider <granite8rok@>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > sorry......but from what you wrote here........you don't even
> > >   understand the materials in which the wand is composed
of.......
> > >   ......never mind the forms and orders............and heres a
> >
> > point...
> >
> > >   you worte" in electric terms"....this think tank has nothing
or
> > >   anything to do with "electricity" or its terms......in
> >
> > fact....electricity
> >
> > >   is the dark, and we are working on the light........all terms
used
> > >    in our present scientific understanding of the world.....are
> > >   useless to us here, they are incorrect in meaning......like
> >
> > davids use of
> >
> > >    "isotope line"......his meaning is far different..........
> > >
> > >   also all seven of those principals would have to be mastered
by
> >
> > the human potential...therefore .......they are all present and in
> > use....".all seven".......the
> >
> > >   wand is an extention of the self.......
> > >
> > >   gender? duality?.....women are special creatures...who have a
> >
> > birth right to duality....(its easier for a women to step up,
> > understand, complete the role of a man, in every way .......but a
man
> > has great difficulty in duality, if he ever understands it......
> > example....look at alchemy plates.....you see the alchemist
> > working....but who is his helper????  a women!!!   why???
because it
> > completes the circuit,,,,,,, we are manipulating "subtle
> > energy."...i've seen magnets change polarity (go from repelling to
> > attraction) at davids and my home, because the circuit was
completed
> > when a women sat down, as compared to two men or two
women.......but
> > mix it, man and  women.....the circuit is complete.......you have
> > creation.....why do you think the ying-yang is in a circle?
because
> > once there together .....they are one....complete...
> >
> > >   enough of this...............
> > >
> > >
> > > starraider25 <jaro@> wrote:
> > >           Yes, Hermes' caduceus could have been an example of
these
> >
> > principles.
> >
> > > A male and female snake, opposite to each other, and rhytmically
> > > coiling up. In electric terms, that'd be a twisted bifilar wire,
> >
> > with
> >
> > > each wire powered in different polarity. Add frequency
(vibration)
> > > and AM modulation (rhytm), and you've got most of those Hermes'
> > > principles in it.
> > >
> > > Jaro
>

demondoppel <mattihorn@...> wrote:

Isn't the wand also called the rod of god?
Curious because William Henry mentions it:

http://www.williamhenry.net/store.html
REVELATION 2012: EYE OF THE NEEDLE

"Maya prophecy says a stargate will open in 2012. An enlightened
being or a group will emerge. William Henry answers a key question:
who will open the door?

Jewish legend, and Essene texts, tells of the arrival of the
Peacemaker, the herald or forerunner of the Christ or Messiah. In
addition to opening the door for the Christ, this figure has a `to
do' list. This groundbreaking work is the first modern and complete
introduction to this astonishing mission, which includes assembling
the Ark of the Covenant, the Anointing oil of the Magdalene, the
Flask of Manna and the Holy Rod of God into one remarkable super
technology."

I don't think anyone is going to know how this rod of god is built
unless they are 5th dimensional. They will have to be advanced.

But good luck anyways in figuring it out!

I'd say 440 has something to do with it.

Matt

--- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com, Dell Coleman <picotech9999@...>
wrote:
>
> Now Jaro,
> how can we be hiding the hidden with that kind of approach.
Everyone would be
> a priest and everyone would have the knowledge of the gods.
> How would they keep an edge?
> Dell
>
> On Wednesday 09 April 2008 22:50:05 starraider25 wrote:
> > Anybody can say, You don't understand it, only I do. But do you?
Why
> > don't you then tell us what are the materials in which the wand is
> > composed of? Let's see the superior knowledge you claim to have.
> >
> > Jaro
> >
> > --- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com, granite spider <granite8rok@>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > sorry......but from what you wrote here........you don't even
> > > understand the materials in which the wand is composed
of.......
> > > ......never mind the forms and orders............and heres a
> >
> > point...
> >
> > > you worte" in electric terms"....this think tank has nothing
or
> > > anything to do with "electricity" or its terms......in
> >
> > fact....electricity
> >
> > > is the dark, and we are working on the light........all terms
used
> > > in our present scientific understanding of the world.....are
> > > useless to us here, they are incorrect in meaning......like
> >
> > davids use of
> >
> > > "isotope line"......his meaning is far different..........
> > >
> > > also all seven of those principals would have to be mastered
by
> >
> > the human potential...therefore .......they are all present and in
> > use....".all seven".......the
> >
> > > wand is an extention of the self.......
> > >
> > > gender? duality?.....women are special creatures...who have a
> >
> > birth right to duality....(its easier for a women to step up,
> > understand, complete the role of a man, in every way .......but a
man
> > has great difficulty in duality, if he ever understands it......
> > example....look at alchemy plates.....you see the alchemist
> > working....but who is his helper???? a women!!! why???
because it
> > completes the circuit,,,,,,, we are manipulating "subtle
> > energy."...i've seen magnets change polarity (go from repelling to
> > attraction) at davids and my home, because the circuit was
completed
> > when a women sat down, as compared to two men or two
women.......but
> > mix it, man and women.....the circuit is complete.......you have
> > creation.....why do you think the ying-yang is in a circle?
because
> > once there together .....they are one....complete...
> >
> > > enough of this...............
> > >
> > >
> > > starraider25 <jaro@> wrote:
> > > Yes, Hermes' caduceus could have been an example of
these
> >
> > principles.
> >
> > > A male and female snake, opposite to each other, and rhytmically
> > > coiling up. In electric terms, that'd be a twisted bifilar wire,
> >
> > with
> >
> > > each wire powered in different polarity. Add frequency
(vibration)
> > > and AM modulation (rhytm), and you've got most of those Hermes'
> > > principles in it.
> > >
> > > Jaro
>

Dear Granite,
This is begining to sound an awful lot like an orgone generator.

Is anyone familiar with www.WarriorMatrix.com?

Take a long look on the postings since the 1st of April if only for starters.
We seem to be coming to some kind of conerence of info here.

I'm not insightful enough to get the connections...maybe.
Tara

On 4/10/08, granite spider <granite8rok@...> wrote:
>       i've read that also.....but the ancient's spelled it  " rood
> ".........(and like everything else has been altered)............i also
> found this spelling in an old dictionary, the defination\discription was a "
> jewelled staff with a cap stone ",  said to "carry a great
> power".........(the cap stone is the neutral postion )..........
>
>
> demondoppel <mattihorn@...> wrote:           Isn't the wand also
> called the rod of god?
> Curious because William Henry mentions it:
>
> http://www.williamhenry.net/store.html
> REVELATION 2012: EYE OF THE NEEDLE
>
> "Maya prophecy says a stargate will open in 2012. An enlightened
> being or a group will emerge. William Henry answers a key question:
> who will open the door?
>
> Jewish legend, and Essene texts, tells of the arrival of the
> Peacemaker, the herald or forerunner of the Christ or Messiah. In
> addition to opening the door for the Christ, this figure has a `to
> do' list. This groundbreaking work is the first modern and complete
> introduction to this astonishing mission, which includes assembling
> the Ark of the Covenant, the Anointing oil of the Magdalene, the
> Flask of Manna and the Holy Rod of God into one remarkable super
> technology."
>
> I don't think anyone is going to know how this rod of god is built
> unless they are 5th dimensional. They will have to be advanced.
>
> But good luck anyways in figuring it out!
>
> I'd say 440 has something to do with it.
>
> Matt
>
> --- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com, Dell Coleman <picotech9999@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Now Jaro,
> > how can we be hiding the hidden with that kind of approach.
> Everyone would be
> > a priest and everyone would have the knowledge of the gods.
> > How would they keep an edge?
> > Dell
> >
> > On Wednesday 09 April 2008 22:50:05 starraider25 wrote:
> > > Anybody can say, You don't understand it, only I do. But do you?
> Why
> > > don't you then tell us what are the materials in which the wand is
> > > composed of? Let's see the superior knowledge you claim to have.
> > >
> > > Jaro
> > >
> > > --- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com, granite spider <granite8rok@>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > sorry......but from what you wrote here........you don't even
> > > > understand the materials in which the wand is composed
> of.......
> > > > ......never mind the forms and orders............and heres a
> > >
> > > point...
> > >
> > > > you worte" in electric terms"....this think tank has nothing
> or
> > > > anything to do with "electricity" or its terms......in
> > >
> > > fact....electricity
> > >
> > > > is the dark, and we are working on the light........all terms
> used
> > > > in our present scientific understanding of the world.....are
> > > > useless to us here, they are incorrect in meaning......like
> > >
> > > davids use of
> > >
> > > > "isotope line"......his meaning is far different..........
> > > >
> > > > also all seven of those principals would have to be mastered
> by
> > >
> > > the human potential...therefore .......they are all present and in
> > > use....".all seven".......the
> > >
> > > > wand is an extention of the self.......
> > > >
> > > > gender? duality?.....women are special creatures...who have a
> > >
> > > birth right to duality....(its easier for a women to step up,
> > > understand, complete the role of a man, in every way .......but a
> man
> > > has great difficulty in duality, if he ever understands it......
> > > example....look at alchemy plates.....you see the alchemist
> > > working....but who is his helper???? a women!!! why???
> because it
> > > completes the circuit,,,,,,, we are manipulating "subtle
> > > energy."...i've seen magnets change polarity (go from repelling to
> > > attraction) at davids and my home, because the circuit was
> completed
> > > when a women sat down, as compared to two men or two
> women.......but
> > > mix it, man and women.....the circuit is complete.......you have
> > > creation.....why do you think the ying-yang is in a circle?
> because
> > > once there together .....they are one....complete...
> > >
> > > > enough of this...............
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > starraider25 <jaro@> wrote:
> > > > Yes, Hermes' caduceus could have been an example of
> these
> > >
> > > principles.
> > >
> > > > A male and female snake, opposite to each other, and rhytmically
> > > > coiling up. In electric terms, that'd be a twisted bifilar wire,
> > >
> > > with
> > >
> > > > each wire powered in different polarity. Add frequency
> (vibration)
> > > > and AM modulation (rhytm), and you've got most of those Hermes'
> > > > principles in it.
> > > >
> > > > Jaro
> >
>
>
>
>
>

demondoppel <mattihorn@...> wrote:

you can't use steel anywhere in the 3CD, as it would affect the
magnetism and also the electric field being generated...and the steel
would obviously become polarized in time. I know that some may use
steel bands to smooth out the magnetic fields.
The whole unit should be maded out of non-magnetic metals.
You want to keep the magnetism where it is as a toroidal shape.
David made clear not to get involved with magnetic metals.
He's the man...so we must listen to him :)

Matt

--- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com, "starraider25" <jaro@...> wrote:
>
> Well, the way I see it, the cones are constantly falling against
the
> rings, which isn't smooth but causes tiny vibration. The wobble is
> the rhythm, and different metals used for cones and the ring, would
> be like genders. You might possibly enhance the 3CD by using a
steel
> cone in the middle against an aluminum ring, so that the metals
> alternate just as the magnet polarities on cones alternate. And
maybe
> also make the lid from different metal than the bottom.
>
> Jaro
>
> --- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com, Dell Coleman <picotech9999@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Jaro
> > About the seven laws, how many can we see applying?
> >
> > 1) THE PRINCIPLE OF MENTALISM
> > Henry Ford - already talked about him and the reason why
debunkers
> > almost always debunk - suck the energy right out.
> >
> > 2) THE PRINCIPLE OF CORRESPONDENCE
> > No idea
> >
> > 3) THE PRINCIPLE OF VIBRATION
> > Yes cones vibrate or form standing waves more or less
> >
> > 4) THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY
> > There are specific magnet polarities in the instructions. There
is
> more
> > polarity in
> >
> > 5) THE PRINCIPLE OF RHYTHM
> > This is repetitive cyclical motion. We want the vibration to
cycle
> up
> > and down the cone set.
> >
> > 6) THE PRINCIPLE OF CAUSE AND EFFECT
> > Osc effects top rejection, cones effect each other and the bottom
> osc.
> > Rings effect cone magnets
> > Lots of effects.
> >
> > 7) THE PRINCIPLE OF GENDER
> > This is expand and compress. In this setup with the activation
> coming
> > from the top,
> > we first have compression going to the bottom osc, and expansion
> coming
> > back out.
> > At the top and bottom osc, we have reflection, an energy as
above,
> so
> > below, not a physical one.
> > The cone configuration gives the gender hint >>
> > It also says the centre cone is both male and female >>>
> >
> > What is the principle of correspondence about, Jaro? Maybe there
is
> a
> > fit there too.
> >
> >
> > Dell
> >
> > The relection drives the compression back into expansion
> >
> >
> > starraider25 wrote:
> > >
> > > Dell,
> > > yes, some sounds have healing effects (like cat's purr which
> > > accelerates bone healing), but it seems quite likely that if
you
> add
> > > visualization to it, the effect will be much more powerful.
> > >
> > > And that jing is just mental generation of the Chi energy, which
> > > takes years to achieve. I'm looking for something easier, like
for
> > > example vibrating stones and using visualization on them, like
> > > Leedskalnin probably did.
> > >
> > > And David Hamel's aliens were also big on vibration. They were
> saying
> > > something like "mass into speed, speed into vibration.."
> > >
> > > Jaro
> > >
> > > --- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com <mailto:hameltech%
> 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > Dell Coleman <picotech9999@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Jaro,
> > > > The seven healing sounds are based on the laws of
entrainment,
> that
> > > a
> > > > vibration will entrain other suitably disposed objects to
> vibrate.
> > > The sounds
> > > > ss, shh, etc, have been observed align organ function over
2500
> > > years.
> > > > There is a chinese concept of jing or power which I will
> describe
> > > badly here,
> > > > but it will serve the purpose. There are many types of jing,
but
> > > the common
> > > > characteristic is that is a short sharp stroke, like a Bruce
Lee
> > > one-inch
> > > > punch, but it is in the mind. Thereis no muscle involved
> strictly
> > > mental.
> > > > Then when a physical punch kick etc is given, you can add
> thousands
> > > of these
> > > > little mental strikes to the physical action. You can gather
up
> > > thousands and
> > > > add them to your punch or kick. When you have that then you
can
> > > imagine the
> > > > punch or kick with even more thousands of -> added. By
> visualizing
> > > this, it
> > > > is delivered to the intended opponent. Punch out four guys
from
> > > across the
> > > > room ;) Anyway, jing is beyond most folks, but not quite
getting
> > > into the
> > > > realm of monks lifting stones, etc. Another example of hidden
> stuff
> > > we might
> > > > not normally run across.
> > > > Just to add some relevance to Hameltech, it shows that you
have
> to
> > > believe the
> > > > effect (success or cone spin up) will happen, or else it wont.
> > > Henry Ford
> > > > said it best, "Whether you think you can, or think you can't,
> > > you're right".
> > > > Dell
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Monday 07 April 2008 23:38:53 Transworld2 wrote:
> > > > > Here are a few thoughts about the Hermes' claim that ancient
> > > formula
> > > > > of: visualization+vibration=manifestation. The Tibetan monk
> stone
> > > > > levitation could be an example of this. Those monks used
> musical
> > > > > instruments and chanting to move a large stone to a cave
that
> was
> > > 250
> > > > > meters up and 500m away. And how did the stone know where
to
> go?
> > > Obviously
> > > > > it followed the INTENT of those monks, which most likely was
> > > applied using
> > > > > visualization.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.labyrinthina.com/grid.htm
> > > <http://www.labyrinthina.com/grid.htm>
> > > > >
> > > > > And what about Leedskalnin and his moving large blocks of
> stone
> > > without any
> > > > > heavy equipment? Reportedly he had a network of copper wire
> > > several yards
> > > > > above the ground. If you power that wire with high voltage
AC
> > > current,
> > > > > you'll get alternating electric field between that wire and
> > > ground. Most
> > > > > stones have thousands of tiny quartz crystals in them, so
if
> you
> > > put them
> > > > > in AC electric field, they'll start to mechanically
vibrate,
> due
> > > to the
> > > > > piezoelectric effect.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is how Leedskalnin could have vibrated those stone
> blocks,
> > > more
> > > > > easily, efficiently and quietly than those Tibetan monks.
> Then he
> > > just
> > > > > might have visualized them rising up and moving where he
> wanted
> > > them to go.
> > > > > He also reportedly talked and sang to those stones, which
> might
> > > have been
> > > > > another part of his technique.
> > > > >
> > > > > Additionally, he did a lot of reading in a library, and
> claimed
> > > to have
> > > > > known the secret of how pyramids were built. This could
have
> been
> > > something
> > > > > he learned from Hermes' writings, since Hermes seems to
have
> been
> > > one of
> > > > > the main Egyptian "science teachers".
> > > > >
> > > > > And regarding sacred sounds like the Aum, those seem to be
low
> > > frequency
> > > > > sounds which will vibrate the body. High frequency sounds
> won't
> > > work for
> > > > > that, because they get dampened by soft tissues.
Incidentally,
> > > the resonant
> > > > > frequency of human body is between 7 and about 12Hz, so
even
> low
> > > intensity
> > > > > sounds at those frequencies would propagate deep into the
> > > tissues. And if
> > > > > you add visualization to that vibration, you might restore
> health
> > > of the
> > > > > body, if Hermes' claim is true.
> > > > >
> > > > > The video of the Qigong master teaching the 7 healing sounds
> > > (that I posted
> > > > > last week) would tend to support that also, since he was
using
> > > > > visualization together with those sounds also.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jaro
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Transworld2"
> > > > > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 7:46 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [aggroup] Possibly Linking Anti-Grav With What
> I've
> > > Been
> > > > > Saying... (Hermes)
> > > > >
> > > > > > Kenny,
> > > > > > I posted about this a while back, proposing that
> combinations
> > > of certain
> > > > > > sounds (like maybe the Fibonacci scale) might produce
> higher-
> > > dimensional
> > > > > > effects. I
> > > > >
> > > > > found
> > > > >
> > > > > > interesting info on that website about Hermes. Living in
> > > ancient Egypt,
> > > > > > that was one smart dude! Anybody wants to know the
Greatest
> > > Secret of the
> > > > > > Universe?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I like especially this part: "By bringing together the
First
> > > and Third
> > > > > > Hermetic Law the ancient formula of:
> > > > > > visualization+vibration=manifestation may be
> > > > >
> > > > > induced."
> > > > >
> > > > > > And what is vibration? SOUND! Also, mechanical and
> > > electromagnetic waves.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> http://9waysmysteryschool.tripod.com/sacredsoundtools/id17.html
> > >
<http://9waysmysteryschool.tripod.com/sacredsoundtools/id17.html>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Most important of all are three works: the oldest is
> > > the 'Divine
> > > > > > Pymander'
> > > > >
> > > > > which
> > > > >
> > > > > > contained the divine wisdom and the secrets of the
universe
> as
> > > revealed
> > > > > > to
> > > > >
> > > > > Hermes.
> > > > >
> > > > > > It consists on 17 fragments all in one work. The second
> book of
> > > the
> > > > > > Divine Pymander was 'Poimmandres'or 'The Vision', it
relates
> > > Hermes
> > > > > > mystical vision, cosmogony, and the secret sciences of the
> > > Egyptians and
> > > > > > spiritual development of the Soul. The third work is known
> > > as 'The
> > > > > > Emerald Tablet' or 'The Emerald Table'(Smaragdine Table).
> > > According to
> > > > > > legend, The Emerald Tablet is said to
> > > > >
> > > > > have
> > > > >
> > > > > > been discovered in a caved tomb, clutched in the hands of
> the
> > > corpse of
> > > > > > Hermes Trismegistus. Regarded as the most revered magical
> > > document in
> > > > > > Western
> > > > >
> > > > > occultism,
> > > > >
> > > > > > The Emerald Tablet is the foundation of astrology and
> alchemy.
> > > The most
> > > > > > significant part of The Emerald Tablet is within its
opening
> > > tractate:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > " I am Hermes Trismegistus, One in Essence, Three in
> Substance.
> > > I am
> > > > > > Hermes, the Universal Agent or Primordial Life Force, My
> Three
> > > Aspects
> > > > > > are the Male, Female, and Male-Female Principles."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > " Know then the Greatest Secret of the Universe: As
Above,So
> > > Below - As
> > > > > > Within,
> > > > >
> > > > > So
> > > > >
> > > > > > Without".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > " It is true and most certain that: That which Above
> reflects
> > > that which
> > > > > > is
> > > > >
> > > > > Below.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Know this to understand the secret of what is infinitely
> large,
> > > > > > infinitely small and in between, and the Nature, Form,
> > > Structure and
> > > > > > Function of all things."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > " That which is Within reflects that which is Without,
know
> > > this to
> > > > > > understand
> > > > >
> > > > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > > Secret of Creation. The inner Divine Fire of Thought
> creates the
> > > > > > multiplicity of form and texture on earth. Thus, water,
fire
> > > and spirit
> > > > > > mixed by wind are contained within the substance of
earth."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > " With utmost concentration, awareness and focus,
> discriminate
> > > the
> > > > > > Spiritous
> > > > >
> > > > > Earth
> > > > >
> > > > > > thus: seperate the Gross from the Subtle, first by gentle
> heat,
> > > then by
> > > > > > great fire. Thus, the Subtle ascends to heaven, the Gross
> > > descends to
> > > > > > earth, Above and Below are equalized: Within and Without
are
> > > transmuted.
> > > > > > From darkness is born
> > > > >
> > > > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > > New Light and the New Energy that penetrates all
> substances: the
> > > > > > Universal
> > > > >
> > > > > Solvent
> > > > >
> > > > > > of Creation."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > " This is why I am Hermes Trismegistus: I know the Secret
> of the
> > > > > > Three-In-One, thus is performed the Great Work, the
mystery
> of
> > > the Great
> > > > > > Akh-Nun-Ra!"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Important to students and practitioners of Sacred Sound
is
> the
> > > KYBALION
> > > > > > which contains the tenets of hermetic philosophy known as
> The
> > > Seven
> > > > > > Hermetic
> > > > >
> > > > > Principles
> > > > >
> > > > > > or the Seven Laws of Hermes Mercurius Trismegistus.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > " The principles of Truth are seven; he who knows these,
> > > understandingly,
> > > > > > possesses the Magic Key before whose touch all the Doors
of
> the
> > > Temple
> > > > > > fly
> > > > >
> > > > > open."
> > > > >
> > > > > > 1) THE PRINCIPLE OF MENTALISM
> > > > > > 2) THE PRINCIPLE OF CORRESPONDENCE
> > > > > > 3) THE PRINCIPLE OF VIBRATION
> > > > > > 4) THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY
> > > > > > 5) THE PRINCIPLE OF RHYTHM
> > > > > > 6) THE PRINCIPLE OF CAUSE AND EFFECT
> > > > > > 7) THE PRINCIPLE OF GENDER
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The great Third Principle of Vibration embodies the truth
> that
> > > motion is
> > > > >
> > > > > manifest
> > > > >
> > > > > > in everything in the universe, that nothing is at rest,
that
> > > everything
> > > > > > moves, vibrates, and circles. Every thought, emotion or
> mental
> > > state has
> > > > > > its corresponding rate and mode of vibration. And by an
> effort
> > > of the
> > > > > > Will of the person, or of other persons, these mental
states
> > > may be
> > > > > > reproduced, just as a musical tone may be reproduced by
> causing
> > > an
> > > > > > instrument to vibrate at a certain rate. By bringing
> together
> > > the First
> > > > > > and Third Hermetic Law the ancient formula of:
> > > > > > visualization+vibration=manifestation may be induced. "
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jaro
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

lady hawk <tarabead@...> wrote:

Dear Granite,
This is begining to sound an awful lot like an orgone generator.

Is anyone familiar with www.WarriorMatrix.com?

Take a long look on the postings since the 1st of April if only for starters.
We seem to be coming to some kind of conerence of info here.

I'm not insightful enough to get the connections...maybe.
Tara

On 4/10/08, granite spider <granite8rok@yahoo.com> wrote:
> i've read that also.....but the ancient's spelled it " rood
> ".........(and like everything else has been altered)............i also
> found this spelling in an old dictionary, the defination\discription was a "
> jewelled staff with a cap stone ", said to "carry a great
> power".........(the cap stone is the neutral postion )..........
>
>
> demondoppel <mattihorn@idirect.com> wrote: Isn't the wand also
> called the rod of god?
> Curious because William Henry mentions it:
>
> http://www.williamhenry.net/store.html
> REVELATION 2012: EYE OF THE NEEDLE
>
> "Maya prophecy says a stargate will open in 2012. An enlightened
> being or a group will emerge. William Henry answers a key question:
> who will open the door?
>
> Jewish legend, and Essene texts, tells of the arrival of the
> Peacemaker, the herald or forerunner of the Christ or Messiah. In
> addition to opening the door for the Christ, this figure has a `to
> do' list. This groundbreaking work is the first modern and complete
> introduction to this astonishing mission, which includes assembling
> the Ark of the Covenant, the Anointing oil of the Magdalene, the
> Flask of Manna and the Holy Rod of God into one remarkable super
> technology."
>
> I don't think anyone is going to know how this rod of god is built
> unless they are 5th dimensional. They will have to be advanced.
>
> But good luck anyways in figuring it out!
>
> I'd say 440 has something to do with it.
>
> Matt
>
> --- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com, Dell Coleman <picotech9999@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Now Jaro,
> > how can we be hiding the hidden with that kind of approach.
> Everyone would be
> > a priest and everyone would have the knowledge of the gods.
> > How would they keep an edge?
> > Dell
> >
> > On Wednesday 09 April 2008 22:50:05 starraider25 wrote:
> > > Anybody can say, You don't understand it, only I do. But do you?
> Why
> > > don't you then tell us what are the materials in which the wand is
> > > composed of? Let's see the superior knowledge you claim to have.
> > >
> > > Jaro
> > >
> > > --- In hameltech@yahoogroups.com, granite spider <granite8rok@>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > sorry......but from what you wrote here........you don't even
> > > > understand the materials in which the wand is composed
> of.......
> > > > ......never mind the forms and orders............and heres a
> > >
> > > point...
> > >
> > > > you worte" in electric terms"....this think tank has nothing
> or
> > > > anything to do with "electricity" or its terms......in
> > >
> > > fact....electricity
> > >
> > > > is the dark, and we are working on the light........all terms
> used
> > > > in our present scientific understanding of the world.....are
> > > > useless to us here, they are incorrect in meaning......like
> > >
> > > davids use of
> > >
> > > > "isotope line"......his meaning is far different..........
> > > >
> > > > also all seven of those principals would have to be mastered
> by
> > >
> > > the human potential...therefore .......they are all present and in
> > > use....".all seven".......the
> > >
> > > > wand is an extention of the self.......
> > > >
> > > > gender? duality?.....women are special creatures...who have a
> > >
> > > birth right to duality....(its easier for a women to step up,
> > > understand, complete the role of a man, in every way .......but a
> man
> > > has great difficulty in duality, if he ever understands it......
> > > example....look at alchemy plates.....you see the alchemist
> > > working....but who is his helper???? a women!!! why???
> because it
> > > completes the circuit,,,,,,, we are manipulating "subtle
> > > energy."...i've seen magnets change polarity (go from repelling to
> > > attraction) at davids and my home, because the circuit was
> completed
> > > when a women sat down, as compared to two men or two
> women.......but
> > > mix it, man and women.....the circuit is complete.......you have
> > > creation.....why do you think the ying-yang is in a circle?
> because
> > > once there together .....they are one....complete...
> > >
> > > > enough of this...............
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > starraider25 <jaro@> wrote:
> > > > Yes, Hermes' caduceus could have been an example of
> these
> > >
> > > principles.
> > >
> > > > A male and female snake, opposite to each other, and rhytmically
> > > > coiling up. In electric terms, that'd be a twisted bifilar wire,
> > >
> > > with
> > >
> > > > each wire powered in different polarity. Add frequency
> (vibration)
> > > > and AM modulation (rhytm), and you've got most of those Hermes'
> > > > principles in it.
> > > >
> > > > Jaro
> >
>
>
>
>
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