I just built one that requires no more than 500Mw in and is held down to
150 Watts out.  If you are able to build a lucrative source for a
Transistor final is an old ship to shore radio. They have pretty stout
output circuits....

bfgaffneyjr wrote:

>
> Peter wrote:
> >
> > About a PA for your FT-817: how about a Tokyo Hi-Power HL-50B? They
> make a
> > 5W in version too (just a couple of resistor values changed on the
> input
> > attenuator.
> >
>
>   Well, there's a good deal of confusion on my part as to whether
> it's legal to operate or even import an HL-50B. The FCC(Federal
> Communications Commission)added regulations quite some time ago to
> try to keep the 11m crowd from running kilowatt linears from 5w inputs
>
> (11m'ers are limited to 5w in USA). As a result, it's basically
> impossible to find an HF amp that only requires 5w input. Even kits
> are generally verboten.
>
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>     ---bernie
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Peter wrote:
>
> About a PA for your FT-817: how about a Tokyo Hi-Power HL-50B? They
make a
> 5W in version too (just a couple of resistor values changed on the
input
> attenuator.
>

   Well, there's a good deal of confusion on my part as to whether
it's legal to operate or even import an HL-50B. The FCC(Federal
Communications Commission)added regulations quite some time ago to
try to keep the 11m crowd from running kilowatt linears from 5w inputs
(11m'ers are limited to 5w in USA). As a result, it's basically
impossible to find an HF amp that only requires 5w input. Even kits
are generally verboten.

     72 de N8PVZ
     ---bernie

Hi all,

Bernie wrote:

>  While going thru the PDF version of the 703's manual(URL is in one
> of Simon's messages on the FT817-Commnander group), I noticed that
> the section on Packet(pg 70 in the PDF version) said you can also
> setup the rig for 1200bps Packet. Again, not very useful(read legal)
> for HF.

But legal on 6m.....not that there's much packet activity (in Uberwald and
the rest of Europe).

There is a lot of experimentation going on with 1k2 packet on 10m over
here - but these guys (in theory!) keep their deviation down to fit in with
the IARU bandwidth recommendations. But if it gives us a decent FT-817 type
input/output, who I am I to complain.

BTW, I can tell you that Ham Radio Deluxe will feel VERY familiar to FT-817
Commander users: it'll just have some extra features that aren't possible
with the FT-817 version.


About a PA for your FT-817: how about a Tokyo Hi-Power HL-50B? They make a
5W in version too (just a couple of resistor values changed on the input
attenuator.

145, Pete/Igor  PE1MGO - G7ECN - M3ECN    Parts of the HRD development team
(if I can find 'em)

Igor wrote:

> The "downside":
>
> Why the **** Icom decided to equip this rig for 9k6 packet I do not
> know! You can't use it on HF, and it certainly doesn't fit the IARU
> bandwidth recommendations on 50MHz.

  While going thru the PDF version of the 703's manual(URL is in one
of Simon's messages on the FT817-Commnander group), I noticed that
the section on Packet(pg 70 in the PDF version) said you can also
setup the rig for 1200bps Packet. Again, not very useful(read legal)
for HF.  Maybe they assume packeteers will use a transverter with the
703 to run packet on VHF or above.

Interesting rig, though. I don't have one, but am looking around for
one with a few more watts out than my FT-817, for emergency
communications. Am also looking at the Ten-Tec Argo V (516). Both
have 10w out. 516's not nearly as sophisticated computer control-
wise, but looks loke a decent rig. I _do_ intend to keep my 817
though, and love Commander and PSK31 De-Luxe.  Too bad it's so hard
to find a good amp w/proper output filtering that will run w/5w in.

   72 de N8PVZ
     ---bernie

Hi Wayne and others,

> Changing a table of control codes should not be a problem.

Take a look at Ekki's CI-V site:

   http://www.plicht.de/ekki/civ/

and especially:


   http://www.plicht.de/ekki/civ/civ-p52.html


and you'll see that most of the work has already been done.

> Thanks to both Simon and you for all of your work.

Oh, but thath what being an Igor ith all about!


145, Pete/Igor  PE1MHO - G7ECN - M3ECN   Parts of the HRD development team

Thanks for your response, Peter.  I have written some primitive code
in Visual Basic to control the IC-781.  Changing a table of control
codes should not be a problem.  Thanks to both Simon and you for all
of your work.

I will patiently wait for the program.  I hope you both enjoy your
new rigs.

Wayne, AA5JC

Hi all,

In Simon's (holiday - has that man no conscience?) absence I'll answer
this....

Wayne wondered:

> I am wishing that Radio-Deluxe will eventually be usable on other
> ICOM rigs.  I have an IC-781 and have been using PSK31 Deluxe with it
> since I first discovered FT-817 Commander and PSK31 Deluxe.

Your wish is our command! Put simply, if it works with the '703 it will work
with any Icom rig that has a CAT interface. Having said that, not all Icom
rigs use the same commands for a particular function.....and some rigs have
a very limited command set. This will mean than you may have to dig out your
rig's manual and edit some files: but that is all in the future.  For the
moment we have to learn to drive these 703s and work out exactly how they
are put together. But it's possible to use CAT commands for EVERYTHING, and
it is all excellently documented in the manual. For example, the IF shift
can be adjust from the computer: add that to FT-817 Commander's centring
tool and you have a very powerful weapon against QRM. Add a narrow CW filter
and you need fear NOTHING :-)



> I am really overwhelmed with the enhancements you have made to FT-817
> Commander and PSK-31 Deluxe.  Thanks for all of you work!

Yes, it's not shabby, is it?

145, Pete/Igor PE1MHO - G7ECN - M3ECN  Group moderator wannabe and Parts of
the HRD development team

Simon,

I am wishing that Radio-Deluxe will eventually be usable on other
ICOM rigs.  I have an IC-781 and have been using PSK31 Deluxe with it
since I first discovered FT-817 Commander and PSK31 Deluxe.

I thought you said that "we might have to write some of our own
interface code" which I assumed might mean CAT specific commands for
our particular rig.

I am really overwhelmed with the enhancements you have made to FT-817
Commander and PSK-31 Deluxe.  Thanks for all of you work!

Wayne, AA5JC

Hi all,

Thanks to Chris Taylor at Martin Lynch my IC-703 arrived on time today.

First (very subjective) impressions are:

Marginally heavier and larger than my FT-817/Z11 combination.
Sturdy build quality...built for a hard life.
Lively receiver: a little noisier than my K2, but not unacceptably so.
The optional 500Hz CW filter is great. It is markedly steeper than the
FT-817's 500Hz filter. I am beginning to think that the 250Hz filter might
have been a good option (don't forget that the CW filter can be used for RX
in digital modes too)
Recovered audio is fine. The DSP filter works as well as my W9GR DSP III in
NR and autonotch modes.

The "downside":

Why the **** Icom decided to equip this rig for 9k6 packet I do not know!
You can't use it on HF, and it certainly doesn't fit the IARU bandwidth
recommendations on 50MHz. But the DATA socket is 100% FT-817 compatible -
that's a plus :-)
The autotuner is "only" a line flattener. It would have cost nothing more to
make it a true wide-band matcher. It's no big deal as it seems to have a
pretty wide range, but random wires are out. I guess the rig is not meant to
be "portable" but more "person transportable".

I am still learning to use this thing: it's very similar to the old MkI 706
I used to have but there are some subtle differences.

When I have this all sorted out I'll try using some CAT software to play
with it while we all wait for Simon to get back from holidays. This is going
to be FUN!

145, Pete  PE1MHO - G7ECN - M3ECN    Group moderator and parts of the HRD
development team

I fixed it last night.

Simon Brown, Casa Bergenia, CH-7031 Laax
www.hb9drv.ch

----- Original Message -----
From: "bfgaffneyjr" <bfgaffneyjr@...>


> Works for me.
>

Works for me.

   72 de N8PVZ
     ---bernie

--- In ham-radio-deluxe@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Halpin" <halpin@h...>
wrote:
> Would you all please try to access the poll to see if it works:
> this is info we need.

Hi all,

--- In ham-radio-deluxe@yahoogroups.com, "Simon Brown"
<simon.brown@k...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I changed something - should be OK now. Off for a beer...

OK.....just WHAT did you change? Thish ish a shteep learning curve
for an Igor :-)

Would you all please try to access the poll to see if it works: this
is info we need.

145, Pete  PE1MHO - G7ECN - M3ECN  (Group moderator wannabe)

Hi,

I changed something - should be OK now. Off for a beer...

Simon Brown, Casa Bergenia, CH-7031 Laax
www.hb9drv.ch
----- Original Message -----
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To: <ham-radio-deluxe@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [ham-radio-deluxe] Poll to get things started


> It tells me I am not a moderator!!!
>
> 73 Derek M1ARF/M0DFX
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Hi,

Peter will fix this - he's learning :-)

Simon Brown, Casa Bergenia, CH-7031 Laax
www.hb9drv.ch

----- Original Message -----
From: "Derek Riley" <m1arf@...>


> It tells me I am not a moderator!!!
>

Hi all,

Sorry about this, but I can't seem to sort out this poll problem.
I'll ask someone who has experinece with this sort of thing, but
basically this group seems to have been set up with polls "only for
moderators", and a quick RTFM doesn't turm up the relevant info.

Of course, it could be that I am having an attack of the Igors...

145, Pete  PE1MHO - G7ECN - M3ECM  HRD group moderator and scapegoat.

Hi all,

Derek wrote:

> It tells me I am not a moderator!!!

And you aren't! There's something wrong with the settings: I'll look at it
later this evening.

145, Pete  PE1MHO - G7ECN - M3ECN   Parts of the HRD development team

It tells me I am not a moderator!!!

73 Derek M1ARF/M0DFX

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Hi all,

I have set up a poll to get things started to see how many of this
group's members already know about FT 817 Commander and/or PSK31
Deluxe. Your answers would be very much appreciated. The poll closes
on 28 May.

145, Pete  PE1MHO - G7ECN - M3ECN  Parts of the HRD development team

Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
ham-radio-deluxe group:

How many members of this group are
already acquainted with FT-817
Commander and/or PSK31 Deluxe

   o I use FT817 Commander and PSK31 DEluxe
   o I use FT 817 Commander but not PSK31 Deluxe
   o I use the stand-alone version of PSK31 Deluxe
   o I know about them but use neither
   o What are these programs?


To vote, please visit the following web page:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ham-radio-deluxe/surveys?id=682604

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!

igor are you in this group?

Jan
PE0LSB

Sliders, I will not fall into the RATS mistake arena.

Simon Brown, Casa Bergenia, CH-7031 Laax
www.hb9drv.ch
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Halpin" <halpin@...>
To: <ham-radio-deluxe@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 2:20 PM
Subject: RE: [ham-radio-deluxe] OK Now


> Hi,
>
> > It will be similar to the FT-817 Commander.
>
> Hmmm....might as well throw this in the group: are you going to have
sliders
> or round knobs for things like volume and IF shift? Maybe sliders are
easier
> to implement and take up less screen space?
>
> 145, Pete  PE1MHO - G7ECN - M3ECN   (Igor-in-chief)
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Hi,

> It will be similar to the FT-817 Commander.

Hmmm....might as well throw this in the group: are you going to have sliders
or round knobs for things like volume and IF shift? Maybe sliders are easier
to implement and take up less screen space?

145, Pete  PE1MHO - G7ECN - M3ECN   (Igor-in-chief)

Hi,

I have just been playing with the settings, group should be OK now.
Peter and I have ordered 703's, I will start at the end of May 2003
and will have Technology Previews by mid-July 2003.

It will be similar to the FT-817 Commander.

Simon (must get my act together) Brown

--- In ham-radio-deluxe@yahoogroups.com, "Rog" <rogerlapthorn@h...>
wrote:
> Re: OK, so where are the messages?????

Hey, give us five minutes to get started! You can't have a group
without members.

145, Pete  PE1MHO - G7ECN - M3ECN   (Igor-in-chief)

Hi,

just testing...

Simon Brown, Casa Bergenia, CH-7031 Laax
www.hb9drv.ch
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Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 1:58 PM
Subject: [ham-radio-deluxe] OK, so where are the messages?????


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Hi,

Cock-up time, still haven't got the group sorted.

Simon Brown, Casa Bergenia, CH-7031 Laax
www.hb9drv.ch
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Hi all,

You can find a very comprehensive list of interfaces for Icom radios
at:

http://www.plicht.de/ekki/civ/civ-p2.html

and most are cheap and easy to build. Having said that, I think that
we should all use something that works at real RS323 levels...

145, Pete PE1MHO - G7ECN - M3ECN  Igor-in-chief

Hi all (well...Simon then)

> Just a notice: I ordered an IC-703 today, development will start in
> May / June, planning for a first demo in mid to late July.

Had lots of trouble getting to Yahoo this evening, but persistence paid off.

July, huh?

145, Pete  PE1MHO - G7ECN - M3ECN   and part-time Igor

Just a notice: I ordered an IC-703 today, development will start in
May / June, planning for a first demo in mid to late July.

Simon