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MAP: http://www.hillcountrytrailrunners.com/maps_trail/map_RockyRaccoon50K.pdf

Saturday Oct 4th Huntsville State Park Run

Huntsville State Park (HSP)

TIME: Start at 7:15.

DIRECTIONS: Take 45 north to the HSP exit # 109. If you get to the
Sam Houston statue, you've gone too far. Take this exit and go left
at the end of the exit ramp, drive over 45, and continue into the
park after making your water/Gatorade drop. Note that HSP charges
entrance fees, and I think it's ~$3/pp, so please bring cash.

CAR POOLING: For those interested in car pooling, let's meet at the
tennis center at Memorial Park at 5:45 Sat AM for a 6:00 prompt
departure.

MORE INFORMATION: Contact Michelle
(michelle.wolpert@...)

15.5 Mile Loop: Below is a link to the RR 15.5 mile loop. Note that
you will have to drop water/Gatorade at what is marked as "Aid 1" as
you drive into the park. As you drive toward the park entrance,
about a � mile on the left is a gate at the end of a jeep road right
before a parking lot. Drop your water/Gatorade here, and then
continue on to the lodge/lake, where we'll start. Aid 1 is about 4
miles into the run. The next water stop is at mile 12 (Aid 3, a
water spigot), so you'll have to leave enough water/Gatorade to last
you 8 miles.

ALTERNATE ROUTES:

At Aid 3, you can either continue along the trail for 15.5 miles, or jog through the campground/parking lot back to the lodge for ~13.5 miles.
Start/Finish at the Interpretative Center and instead of going to Aid #1 you can continue on to Aid #3. Total ~8 miles.

HCM Trail Walk

Walk will start at 7:30AM from the FOOTBRIDGE by the Rugby Field.
The walk will be lead by Angie angelaveneziale@...
Please contact Angie to let her know you will be there.
Please bring a water bottle and replenish electrolytes.
NOTE: This is a 16-18 min/mile pace walk.

Footbridge Location:
http://www.geocities.com/h_t_rex/memorial_park_all.jpg
The Footbridge is located by the parkinglot between the baseball fields 'B' and the Soccer/Rugby field 'R',

west end of the PicNic Loop Rd., south side of Memorial Dr.

For more information contact h_t_rex@...

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#2230

From: "Frank & Paige Krekeler" <fkrekeler@...>
Date: Thu Oct 2, 2008 2:03 am
Subject: RE: Re: IT Band

fkrekeler

I’m definitely following the chocolate therapy advice—probably more than I should. I’m being really good and I’m not running at all this week. I plan to give it a slow try on Saturday.

Hopefully I can join the group again soon—I hate my coaching gig. I like the people but it is such a time drain. I learned my lesson a few years ago but then was convinced (too easily) to return. I should have thought about it first. Oh well.

I plan to come out in a few weeks…need to hit the trails to ‘train’ for February’s Rocky Raccoon.

Paige

From: h_t_rex@yahoogroups.com [mailto:h_t_rex@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of HM Klaff
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 1:58 PM
To: h_t_rex@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [h_t_rex] Re: IT Band

I second Richard's chocolate therapy. I would only add that you drink more beer, as beer is also a cure for all ailments.

Keep meaning to bring my Wharton stretch book to work so I can scan some good stretches and send them your way. Tomorrow....

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Karen andor Richard <klynn1@...> wrote:

Poor Paige; you know its all a function of getting old don't you!!!

I do the same stretches as Mariela posted. I've also found hip
abducton and anduction stretches very useful - whilst sitting pushing
weights outwards on the outside of the knees as you spread your knees
apart, and the converse of pushing weights inwards as you bring your
knees/legs together (from a split position); all on those dreaded, but
helpful at times weight training machines.

Two other comments:
1) commit to do, and therefore train for another Ironman - the cross
training (especially the swimming) can only do you good
2) eat more chocolate, as chocolate is the cure for all ailments

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#2231

From: selggur@...
Date: Thu Oct 2, 2008 4:38 pm
Subject: Re: HSP on 10/4 instead of LST

selggur_2000

Bob...how are you? I heard they brought the ambulance for you after the Running of the Ducks...

Don(ald Duck) Ruggles

-----Original Message-----
From: bob.i.botto@...
Sent: Sep 30, 2008 10:10 AM
To: h_t_rex@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [h_t_rex] HSP on 10/4 instead of LST

Sounds fun Michelle but I'm a bit beat up from the 8 hour Run from the
Ducks Saturday so I think I'll take it easy for a week. I'll catch you on
the next one.

Bob

Bob Botto
Analytical Services Laboratory
Baytown Complex Laboratory Department
5000 Bayway Dr. Baytown, Tx 77520
Company Mail: CORP-BSL-103
Phone: 281-834-5133
Pager: 281-439-1300
Fax: 281-834-1775
Join the ExxonMobil Corporate Track & Field Team!

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WHAT / WHERE: We'll be running in Huntsville State Park. There are
numerous trails up there, so pick your poison. However, to keep
things easy, let's focus on two options: the Rocky Raccoon 15.5 mile
loop, or the RR 13.5 mile loop (which is the same as RR 15.5, but
less 2 miles after Aid 3).

RR 15.5 Miles: Below is a link to the RR 15.5 mile loop. Note that
you will have to drop water/Gatorade at what is marked as "Aid 1" as
you drive into the park. As you drive toward the park entrance,
about a ¼ mile on the left is a gate at the end of a jeep road right
before a parking lot. Drop your water/Gatorade here, and then
continue on to the lodge/lake, where we'll start. Aid 1 is about 4
miles into the run. The next water stop is at mile 12 (Aid 3, a
water spigot), so you'll have to leave enough water/Gatorade to last
you 8 miles. At Aid 3, you can either continue along the trail for
15.5 miles, or jog through the campground/parking lot back to the
lodge for ~13.5 miles.

http://www.hillcountrytrailrunners.com/maps_trail/map_RockyRaccoon50K.
pdf

WHEN: Saturday, October 4, 2008.
TIME: Start at 7:15.
DIRECTIONS: Take 45 north to the HSP exit # 109. If you get to the
Sam Houston statue, you've gone too far. Take this exit and go left
at the end of the exit ramp, drive over 45, and continue into the
park after making your water/Gatorade drop. Note that HSP charges
entrance fees, and I think it's ~$3/pp, so please bring cash.
CAR POOLING: For those interested in car pooling, let's meet at the
tennis center at Memorial Park at 5:45 Sat AM for a 6:00 prompt
departure.
MORE INFORMATION: Contact Michelle
(michelle.wolpert@constellation.com)

Note: Scott Bounds wants to try running one of the western sections
of the LST, so if you're interested, please contact
scottbounds@earthlink.net

#2232

From: bob.i.botto@...
Date: Thu Oct 2, 2008 5:53 pm
Subject: Dead Duck

botto_robert

Yeh I should have gotten the Dead Duck Award. After I finished (41.8 miles)
I started cramping up really bad. I could not move hardly without a painful
cramp. Did you notice that there was no water over in the pavillion after
we finished? They brought it later but a little too late for me. Anyway I
was really dehydrated. It was just too hot for me to run that long. I was
not getting any better. I was feeling dizzy and could not walk or hardly
sit up so they called the ambulance and I went to Mineral Wells Hospital
ER. They did some lovely torture to me on the way there. After a couple IV
bags I was good to go so they let Penny take me home. Unfortunately that
was not until 8pm after all the tests they do were finished. We did not get
back to Houston until 2am.

What was really great was the RD Tony came to the ER and went through the
whole awards ceremony with me because I missed it. He spent over an hour
with me in the ER. I really appreciated that!. What a wonderful man he is!

I enjoyed meeting you again and your lovely wife too! I really enjoyed the
race just not what happened after. I think we both ran a super race
considering the 90 degree heat and no shade to speak of.

What is your next race?

Bob

Bob Botto
Analytical Services Laboratory
Baytown Complex Laboratory Department
5000 Bayway Dr. Baytown, Tx 77520
Company Mail: CORP-BSL-103
Phone: 281-834-5133
Pager: 281-439-1300
Fax: 281-834-1775
Join the ExxonMobil Corporate Track & Field Team!




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Bob...how are you?  I heard they brought the ambulance for you after the
Running of the Ducks...


Don(ald Duck) Ruggles




       -----Original Message-----
       From: bob.i.botto@...
       Sent: Sep 30, 2008 10:10 AM
       To: h_t_rex@yahoogroups.com
       Subject: Re: [h_t_rex] HSP on 10/4 instead of LST




       Sounds fun Michelle but I'm a bit beat up from the 8 hour Run from
       the
       Ducks Saturday so I think I'll take it easy for a week. I'll catch
       you on
       the next one.

       Bob

       Bob Botto
       Analytical Services Laboratory
       Baytown Complex Laboratory Department
       5000 Bayway Dr. Baytown, Tx 77520
       Company Mail: CORP-BSL-103
       Phone: 281-834-5133
       Pager: 281-439-1300
       Fax: 281-834-1775
       Join the ExxonMobil Corporate Track & Field Team!

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       yahoo.com> To
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       WHAT / WHERE: We'll be running in Huntsville State Park. There are
       numerous trails up there, so pick your poison. However, to keep
       things easy, let's focus on two options: the Rocky Raccoon 15.5 mile
       loop, or the RR 13.5 mile loop (which is the same as RR 15.5, but
       less 2 miles after Aid 3).

       RR 15.5 Miles: Below is a link to the RR 15.5 mile loop. Note that
       you will have to drop water/Gatorade at what is marked as "Aid 1" as
       you drive into the park. As you drive toward the park entrance,
       about a � mile on the left is a gate at the end of a jeep road right
       before a parking lot. Drop your water/Gatorade here, and then
       continue on to the lodge/lake, where we'll start. Aid 1 is about 4
       miles into the run. The next water stop is at mile 12 (Aid 3, a
       water spigot), so you'll have to leave enough water/Gatorade to last
       you 8 miles. At Aid 3, you can either continue along the trail for
       15.5 miles, or jog through the campground/parking lot back to the
       lodge for ~13.5 miles.

       http://www.hillcountrytrailrunners.com/maps_trail/map_RockyRaccoon50K
       .
       pdf

       WHEN: Saturday, October 4, 2008.
       TIME: Start at 7:15.
       DIRECTIONS: Take 45 north to the HSP exit # 109. If you get to the
       Sam Houston statue, you've gone too far. Take this exit and go left
       at the end of the exit ramp, drive over 45, and continue into the
       park after making your water/Gatorade drop. Note that HSP charges
       entrance fees, and I think it's ~$3/pp, so please bring cash.
       CAR POOLING: For those interested in car pooling, let's meet at the
       tennis center at Memorial Park at 5:45 Sat AM for a 6:00 prompt
       departure.
       MORE INFORMATION: Contact Michelle
       (michelle.wolpert@...)

       Note: Scott Bounds wants to try running one of the western sections
       of the LST, so if you're interested, please contact
       scottbounds@...

#2233

From: lynnor matheney <lillamb1997@...>
Date: Thu Oct 2, 2008 8:32 pm
Subject: Re: Dead Duck

lillamb1997

Glad you are okay Bob!!!!

Lynnor Matheney
The Woodlands


--- bob.i.botto@... wrote:

>
> Yeh I should have gotten the Dead Duck Award. After
> I finished (41.8 miles)
> I started cramping up really bad. I could not move
> hardly without a painful
> cramp.

#2234

From: bob.i.botto@...
Date: Thu Oct 2, 2008 8:48 pm
Subject: Re: Dead Duck

botto_robert

Lynnor remember when we did our 30 miler at HSP last month how hot it was
at the end? Just imagine doing that without any trees and then having to go
12 more miles. Remember all the buzzards we saw? They would have had a
feast!

Bob

Bob Botto
Analytical Services Laboratory
Baytown Complex Laboratory Department
5000 Bayway Dr. Baytown, Tx 77520
Company Mail: CORP-BSL-103
Phone: 281-834-5133
Pager: 281-439-1300
Fax: 281-834-1775
Join the ExxonMobil Corporate Track & Field Team!

              lynnor
              matheney
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Glad you are okay Bob!!!!

Lynnor Matheney
The Woodlands

--- bob.i.botto@... wrote:

>
> Yeh I should have gotten the Dead Duck Award. After
> I finished (41.8 miles)
> I started cramping up really bad. I could not move
> hardly without a painful
> cramp.

#2235

From: lynnor matheney <lillamb1997@...>
Date: Fri Oct 3, 2008 2:52 pm
Subject: Re: Dead Duck

lillamb1997

>>>>Remember all the buzzards we saw?
> They would have had a
> feast!<<<<<



Over my dead body..

I nearly came out of my chair over that ambulance
post. You take care of yourself Bob!!

Lynnor Matheney
The Woodlands


--- bob.i.botto@... wrote:

> Lynnor remember when we did our 30 miler at HSP last
> month how hot it was
> at the end? Just imagine doing that without any
> trees and then having to go
> 12 more miles. Remember all the buzzards we saw?
> They would have had a
> feast!
>
> Bob
>

#2236

From: "HM Klaff" <hmklaff@...>
Date: Fri Oct 3, 2008 4:17 pm
Subject: Re: Saturday Oct 4th Huntsville State Park Run and HCM Walk

becsdad96

If anyone is interested in the 8-mile (or, if you go to Aid 1, approx. 11-mile) option, I'll be starting from the Interpretative Center at about 7:25 (or whenever the main group makes it to that point).

Miles

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 12:41 PM, h_t_rex <h_t_rex@...> wrote:

Saturday Oct 4th Huntsville State Park Run

Huntsville State Park (HSP)

TIME: Start at 7:15.

DIRECTIONS: Take 45 north to the HSP exit # 109. If you get to the
Sam Houston statue, you've gone too far. Take this exit and go left
at the end of the exit ramp, drive over 45, and continue into the
park after making your water/Gatorade drop. Note that HSP charges
entrance fees, and I think it's ~$3/pp, so please bring cash.

CAR POOLING: For those interested in car pooling, let's meet at the
tennis center at Memorial Park at 5:45 Sat AM for a 6:00 prompt
departure.

MORE INFORMATION: Contact Michelle
(michelle.wolpert@...)

MAP: http://www.hillcountrytrailrunners.com/maps_trail/map_RockyRaccoon50K.pdf

15.5 Mile Loop: Below is a link to the RR 15.5 mile loop. Note that
you will have to drop water/Gatorade at what is marked as "Aid 1" as
you drive into the park. As you drive toward the park entrance,
about a � mile on the left is a gate at the end of a jeep road right
before a parking lot. Drop your water/Gatorade here, and then
continue on to the lodge/lake, where we'll start. Aid 1 is about 4
miles into the run. The next water stop is at mile 12 (Aid 3, a
water spigot), so you'll have to leave enough water/Gatorade to last
you 8 miles.

ALTERNATE ROUTES:

At Aid 3, you can either continue along the trail for 15.5 miles, or jog through the campground/parking lot back to the lodge for ~13.5 miles.

Start/Finish at the Interpretative Center and instead of going to Aid #1 you can continue on to Aid #3. Total ~8 miles.

HCM Trail Walk

Walk will start at 7:30AM from the FOOTBRIDGE by the Rugby Field.
The walk will be lead by Angie angelaveneziale@...
Please contact Angie to let her know you will be there.
Please bring a water bottle and replenish electrolytes.
NOTE: This is a 16-18 min/mile pace walk.

Footbridge Location:
http://www.geocities.com/h_t_rex/memorial_park_all.jpg
The Footbridge is located by the parkinglot between the baseball fields 'B' and the Soccer/Rugby field 'R',

west end of the PicNic Loop Rd., south side of Memorial Dr.

For more information contact h_t_rex@...

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#2237

From: "HM Klaff" <hmklaff@...>
Date: Fri Oct 3, 2008 4:30 pm
Subject: Re: Re: IT Band

becsdad96

Paige,

I've attached some good hip stretches. Some of them require a band or 5-6' section of rope, but they're all excellent stretches from the Wharton Stretch Book. It's important to note that in the Wharton method, you only hold the stretch a couple of seconds. Also, in the initial part of each stretch, let your hands or the bands guide the stretch but let the contracting muscle do most of the initial work, with the hand / band / rope providing the leverage for the maximum 2-3 second stretch at the end of each repetition. Each of these stretches helped me get through my last bout of IT issues and are good general preventative stretches as well.

Good luck.

Miles

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Frank & Paige Krekeler <fkrekeler@...> wrote:

I'm definitely following the chocolate therapy advice�probably more than I should. I'm being really good and I'm not running at all this week. I plan to give it a slow try on Saturday.

Hopefully I can join the group again soon�I hate my coaching gig. I like the people but it is such a time drain. I learned my lesson a few years ago but then was convinced (too easily) to return. I should have thought about it first. Oh well.

I plan to come out in a few weeks�need to hit the trails to 'train' for February's Rocky Raccoon.

Paige

From: h_t_rex@yahoogroups.com [mailto:h_t_rex@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of HM Klaff
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 1:58 PM
To: h_t_rex@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [h_t_rex] Re: IT Band

I second Richard's chocolate therapy. I would only add that you drink more beer, as beer is also a cure for all ailments.

Keep meaning to bring my Wharton stretch book to work so I can scan some good stretches and send them your way. Tomorrow....

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Karen andor Richard <klynn1@...> wrote:

Poor Paige; you know its all a function of getting old don't you!!!

I do the same stretches as Mariela posted. I've also found hip
abducton and anduction stretches very useful - whilst sitting pushing
weights outwards on the outside of the knees as you spread your knees
apart, and the converse of pushing weights inwards as you bring your
knees/legs together (from a split position); all on those dreaded, but
helpful at times weight training machines.

Two other comments:
1) commit to do, and therefore train for another Ironman - the cross
training (especially the swimming) can only do you good
2) eat more chocolate, as chocolate is the cure for all ailments

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#2238

From: "h_t_rex" <h_t_rex@...>
Date: Fri Oct 3, 2008 8:52 pm
Subject: Trail Update

h_t_rex

This is the most recent information I received from the Parks Superintendent:

'He said that as the section on of the park is closed where that trail connects, this trail won't be worked on for a while. He made mention of needing to get some "foot traffic only signs" made up prior to reopening it.'

So the news is good - the trails will be 'official' to foot traffic and they are planning to work on them as time allows.

#2239

From: selggur@...
Date: Sat Oct 4, 2008 4:37 pm
Subject: Re: Dead Duck

selggur_2000

Bob...

Glad to hear you are not a dead duck! I have run in hot races before, but that one was the worst. After about 5 hours I could not get anything into my system...I was running on the edge of nausea. I never hurled, but I am sure I was running out of energy. I believe it reached the 80's by midway and the last hour was in the low 90's. It took me about 1/2 hour after finishing to get my eyes back in focus...I was seeing double for awhile...kinda cool, though, looked like twice as many people at the awards ceremony.

That Tony is quite a guy...funny that he was the guy at Bandera back in January running around in the dark picking up the course markers. I'm surprised I didn't see him since I did not finish until 3am.

Congratulations on your 7th place overall (6th male) finish. I'm sure you were the oldest of the fast guys. Not sure what I am doing next...searching the net for something in October (18/19, 25/26). Let me know if you find anything interesting...

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: bob.i.botto@...
Sent: Oct 2, 2008 12:53 PM
To: h_t_rex@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [h_t_rex] Dead Duck

Yeh I should have gotten the Dead Duck Award. After I finished (41.8 miles)
I started cramping up really bad. I could not move hardly without a painful
cramp. Did you notice that there was no water over in the pavillion after
we finished? They brought it later but a little too late for me. Anyway I
was really dehydrated. It was just too hot for me to run that long. I was
not getting any better. I was feeling dizzy and could not walk or hardly
sit up so they called the ambulance and I went to Mineral Wells Hospital
ER. They did some lovely torture to me on the way there. After a couple IV
bags I was good to go so they let Penny take me home. Unfortunately that
was not until 8pm after all the tests they do were finished. We did not get
back to Houston until 2am.

What was really great was the RD Tony came to the ER and went through the
whole awards ceremony with me because I missed it. He spent over an hour
with me in the ER. I really appreciated that!. What a wonderful man he is!

I enjoyed meeting you again and your lovely wife too! I really enjoyed the
race just not what happened after. I think we both ran a super race
considering the 90 degree heat and no shade to speak of.

What is your next race?

Bob

Bob Botto
Analytical Services Laboratory
Baytown Complex Laboratory Department
5000 Bayway Dr. Baytown, Tx 77520
Company Mail: CORP-BSL-103
Phone: 281-834-5133
Pager: 281-439-1300
Fax: 281-834-1775
Join the ExxonMobil Corporate Track & Field Team!

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Bob...how are you? I heard they brought the ambulance for you after the
Running of the Ducks...

Don(ald Duck) Ruggles

-----Original Message-----
From: bob.i.botto@exxonmobil.com
Sent: Sep 30, 2008 10:10 AM
To: h_t_rex@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [h_t_rex] HSP on 10/4 instead of LST

Sounds fun Michelle but I'm a bit beat up from the 8 hour Run from
the
Ducks Saturday so I think I'll take it easy for a week. I'll catch
you on
the next one.

Bob

Bob Botto
Analytical Services Laboratory
Baytown Complex Laboratory Department
5000 Bayway Dr. Baytown, Tx 77520
Company Mail: CORP-BSL-103
Phone: 281-834-5133
Pager: 281-439-1300
Fax: 281-834-1775
Join the ExxonMobil Corporate Track & Field Team!

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WHAT / WHERE: We'll be running in Huntsville State Park. There are
numerous trails up there, so pick your poison. However, to keep
things easy, let's focus on two options: the Rocky Raccoon 15.5 mile
loop, or the RR 13.5 mile loop (which is the same as RR 15.5, but
less 2 miles after Aid 3).

RR 15.5 Miles: Below is a link to the RR 15.5 mile loop. Note that
you will have to drop water/Gatorade at what is marked as "Aid 1" as
you drive into the park. As you drive toward the park entrance,
about a ¼ mile on the left is a gate at the end of a jeep road right
before a parking lot. Drop your water/Gatorade here, and then
continue on to the lodge/lake, where we'll start. Aid 1 is about 4
miles into the run. The next water stop is at mile 12 (Aid 3, a
water spigot), so you'll have to leave enough water/Gatorade to last
you 8 miles. At Aid 3, you can either continue along the trail for
15.5 miles, or jog through the campground/parking lot back to the
lodge for ~13.5 miles.

http://www.hillcountrytrailrunners.com/maps_trail/map_RockyRaccoon50K
.
pdf

WHEN: Saturday, October 4, 2008.
TIME: Start at 7:15.
DIRECTIONS: Take 45 north to the HSP exit # 109. If you get to the
Sam Houston statue, you've gone too far. Take this exit and go left
at the end of the exit ramp, drive over 45, and continue into the
park after making your water/Gatorade drop. Note that HSP charges
entrance fees, and I think it's ~$3/pp, so please bring cash.
CAR POOLING: For those interested in car pooling, let's meet at the
tennis center at Memorial Park at 5:45 Sat AM for a 6:00 prompt
departure.
MORE INFORMATION: Contact Michelle
(michelle.wolpert@constellation.com)

Note: Scott Bounds wants to try running one of the western sections
of the LST, so if you're interested, please contact
scottbounds@earthlink.net

#2240

From: "Mariela" <mvbotella@...>
Date: Sat Oct 4, 2008 10:58 pm
Subject: 2008 Practice for the Tour de Bayou Starts next week

mariela_botella

Schedule for the 2008 Practice for the Tour de Bayou (each session starts at 6:00pm)

    *      October 7th at American General
    *      October 14th at Spotts Park
    *      October 21st at Buffalo Bayou on Memorial Drive at Shepherd
    *      October 28th at White Oak Bayou at Thelma (Adult beverages for the finale)

The races are free and cross country (not on pavement). The distances will be somewhere between 5k and 8k, we will provide water and sports-drink. If you run all of the stages your times will be cumulative and overall standings will be posted.

Open and Women's Division runners are scored on a point system using the Purdy Tables. Masters and Masters Women's Division runners are also scored on a point system based on age-graded WAVA factors. For more information, contact Roger Boak

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#2241

From: "Carla Rowland" <carla.rowland@...>
Date: Mon Oct 6, 2008 6:10 pm
Subject: Re: Trail Update

clrowla2004

--- In h_t_rex@yahoogroups.com, "h_t_rex" <h_t_rex@...> wrote:
>
>
> This is the most recent information I received from the Parks
> Superintendent:
>
> 'He said that as the section on of the park is closed where that trail
> connects, this trail won't be worked on for a while. He made mention
of
> needing to get some "foot traffic only signs" made up prior to
reopening
> it.'
>
> So the news is good - the trails will be 'official' to foot traffic
and
> they are planning to work on them as time allows.
>
Hi there - which section is this??  Please don't tell me it's the Green
Trail.

#2242

From: "Mariela" <mvbotella@...>
Date: Mon Oct 6, 2008 8:28 pm
Subject: Re: Trail Update

mariela_botella

> Hi there - which section is this??  Please don't tell me it's the
Green Trail.

It's not the green trail...although it is still closed as of this past
weekend. It is being cleared right now and should hopefully be open
sometime this week.

#2243

From: bob.i.botto@...
Date: Mon Oct 6, 2008 8:43 pm
Subject: Re: Dead Duck

botto_robert

Wow you must have been close to a trip to the ER too. Man that was tough!
No Badwater for me I guess.

I'll be running the Waco 1/2 marathon on October 26th. Waco has a small
(<1000) marathon with nice scenery and I'd like to get out of the crowds
for one of these. I have not found anything else on those dates. Palo Duro
Canyon is full. Any suggestions out there HTREX?

Bob

Bob Botto
Analytical Services Laboratory
Baytown Complex Laboratory Department
5000 Bayway Dr. Baytown, Tx 77520
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Bob...

Glad to hear you are not a dead duck!  I have run in hot races before, but
that one was the worst.  After about 5 hours I could not get anything into
my system...I was running on the edge of nausea.  I never hurled, but I am
sure I was running out of energy.  I believe it reached the 80's by midway
and the last hour was in the low 90's.  It took me about 1/2 hour after
finishing to get my eyes back in focus...I was seeing double for
awhile...kinda cool, though, looked like twice as many people at the awards
ceremony.

That Tony is quite a guy...funny that he was the guy at Bandera back in
January running around in the dark picking up the course markers.  I'm
surprised I didn't see him since I did not finish until 3am.

Congratulations on your 7th place overall (6th male) finish.  I'm sure you
were the oldest of the fast guys.  Not sure what I am doing
next...searching the net for something in October (18/19, 25/26).  Let me
know if you find anything interesting...

Don


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       Yeh I should have gotten the Dead Duck Award. After I finished (41.8
       miles)
       I started cramping up really bad. I could not move hardly without a
       painful
       cramp. Did you notice that there was no water over in the pavillion
       after
       we finished? They brought it later but a little too late for me.
       Anyway I
       was really dehydrated. It was just too hot for me to run that long. I
       was
       not getting any better. I was feeling dizzy and could not walk or
       hardly
       sit up so they called the ambulance and I went to Mineral Wells
       Hospital
       ER. They did some lovely torture to me on the way there. After a
       couple IV
       bags I was good to go so they let Penny take me home. Unfortunately
       that
       was not until 8pm after all the tests they do were finished. We did
       not get
       back to Houston until 2am.

       What was really great was the RD Tony came to the ER and went through
       the
       whole awards ceremony with me because I missed it. He spent over an
       hour
       with me in the ER. I really appreciated that!. What a wonderful man
       he is!

       I enjoyed meeting you again and your lovely wife too! I really
       enjoyed the
       race just not what happened after. I think we both ran a super race
       considering the 90 degree heat and no shade to speak of.

       What is your next race?

       Bob

       Bob Botto
       Analytical Services Laboratory
       Baytown Complex Laboratory Department
       5000 Bayway Dr. Baytown, Tx 77520
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       Bob...how are you? I heard they brought the ambulance for you after
       the
       Running of the Ducks...

       Don(ald Duck) Ruggles

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       Sounds fun Michelle but I'm a bit beat up from the 8 hour Run from
       the
       Ducks Saturday so I think I'll take it easy for a week. I'll catch
       you on
       the next one.

       Bob

       Bob Botto
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       5000 Bayway Dr. Baytown, Tx 77520
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       WHAT / WHERE: We'll be running in Huntsville State Park. There are
       numerous trails up there, so pick your poison. However, to keep
       things easy, let's focus on two options: the Rocky Raccoon 15.5 mile
       loop, or the RR 13.5 mile loop (which is the same as RR 15.5, but
       less 2 miles after Aid 3).

       RR 15.5 Miles: Below is a link to the RR 15.5 mile loop. Note that
       you will have to drop water/Gatorade at what is marked as "Aid 1" as
       you drive into the park. As you drive toward the park entrance,
       about a � mile on the left is a gate at the end of a jeep road right
       before a parking lot. Drop your water/Gatorade here, and then
       continue on to the lodge/lake, where we'll start. Aid 1 is about 4
       miles into the run. The next water stop is at mile 12 (Aid 3, a
       water spigot), so you'll have to leave enough water/Gatorade to last
       you 8 miles. At Aid 3, you can either continue along the trail for
       15.5 miles, or jog through the campground/parking lot back to the
       lodge for ~13.5 miles.

       http://www.hillcountrytrailrunners.com/maps_trail/map_RockyRaccoon50K
       .
       pdf

       WHEN: Saturday, October 4, 2008.
       TIME: Start at 7:15.
       DIRECTIONS: Take 45 north to the HSP exit # 109. If you get to the
       Sam Houston statue, you've gone too far. Take this exit and go left
       at the end of the exit ramp, drive over 45, and continue into the
       park after making your water/Gatorade drop. Note that HSP charges
       entrance fees, and I think it's ~$3/pp, so please bring cash.
       CAR POOLING: For those interested in car pooling, let's meet at the
       tennis center at Memorial Park at 5:45 Sat AM for a 6:00 prompt
       departure.
       MORE INFORMATION: Contact Michelle
       (michelle.wolpert@...)

       Note: Scott Bounds wants to try running one of the western sections
       of the LST, so if you're interested, please contact
       scottbounds@...

#2244

From: Angela Hsieh <angelachsieh@...>
Date: Wed Oct 8, 2008 3:29 am
Subject: Palo Duro

angelachsieh

Hello!

My name is Angie and I'll be running my first 50K at Palo Duro in less than 2 weeks (!!). I'm curious if anyone from HTREX will also be running this one? If so, please let me know as we could meet up at the Friday pre-race pasta dinner. Some of my partners in crime include Kevin Walker, Andy Ralph, and Melody Scott. I hope to meet some other crazy runners!

Cheers,

Angie Hsieh

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#2245

From: Wayne Webb <ultraturtle@...>
Date: Wed Oct 8, 2008 2:18 pm
Subject: Re: Palo Duro

wwebb437

I have run this race several times and it is among my favorite Texas trail runs. I had planed to go but have a family commitment that weekend. Have a good race.

-----Original Message-----
From: Angela Hsieh
Sent: Oct 7, 2008 10:29 PM
To: h_t_rex@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [h_t_rex] Palo Duro

Hello!

My name is Angie and I'll be running my first 50K at Palo Duro in less than 2 weeks (!!). I'm curious if anyone from HTREX will also be running this one? If so, please let me know as we could meet up at the Friday pre-race pasta dinner. Some of my partners in crime include Kevin Walker, Andy Ralph, and Melody Scott. I hope to meet some other crazy runners!

Cheers,

Angie Hsieh


Happy Trails,

Wayne Webb
Ponder, Texas


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#2246

From: "Michelle" <mwolpert2002@...>
Date: Wed Oct 8, 2008 2:39 pm
Subject: Re: Palo Duro

mwolpert2002

I'm running it, and so are Kathryn and Jean...I'll have to pass on
the pre-race dinner since my folks will be joining me and we'll
probably do dinner in town.  This is my first Palo Duro as well, the
50k, and I'm looking forward to it...tho' I hear the weather can be a
bear.  Looking forward to meeting you.

Michelle

--- In h_t_rex@yahoogroups.com, Angela Hsieh <angelachsieh@...> wrote:
>
> Hello!
> �
> My name is Angie and I'll be running my first 50K at Palo Duro in
less than 2 weeks (!!).� I'm curious if�anyone from HTREX will also
be�running this one?� If so,�please let me know as�we could meet up
at the Friday pre-race pasta dinner.� Some of my partners in crime
include�Kevin Walker, Andy Ralph, and Melody Scott.� I hope to meet
some other crazy runners!
> �
> Cheers,
> Angie Hsieh
>

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#2247

From: "h_t_rex" <h_t_rex@...>
Date: Wed Oct 8, 2008 4:48 pm
Subject: Trail Status Update - Green Trail

h_t_rex

Per GHORBA:
http://www.ghorba.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1321

Parks wasn't able to get out on the trails today (Green) but everything is now prepped, cleared, and ready for them to remove the three blockages on the trail. After that, it should be open.

Things to note: there was a washout just behind the maintenance area where the Centerpoint Tree Butchers clearcut. Rather than open that 40 feet of trail and repair, just go down the clearcut for a short distance to where it connects with the trail.

I know that there are some places that will need to be rerouted to flow correctly and we will get to those once we have gotten the Triangle open.
Thanks again for the patience.
Russell (Trail Steward)

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#2248

From: "h_t_rex" <h_t_rex@...>
Date: Wed Oct 8, 2008 4:50 pm
Subject: Trail Work Parties - Triangle Trail (aka Blair Witch)

h_t_rex

Per GHORBA's Trail Steward Russell:
http://www.ghorba.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1341

Anyone interested in helping after work Oct 8-10th, please contact Russell. This will most likely also be the planned trail work for Saturday.

#2249

From: "h_t_rex" <h_t_rex@...>
Date: Wed Oct 8, 2008 5:02 pm
Subject: Map of Memorial Park Trails

h_t_rex

http://www.memorialparkconservancy.org/html/North_Memorial%20Map_23.pdf

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#2250

From: "HM Klaff" <hmklaff@...>
Date: Wed Oct 8, 2008 6:51 pm
Subject: Re: Trail Work Parties - Triangle Trail (aka Blair Witch)

becsdad96

i've never checked the GHORBA forum out before. my, my . . . it appears that some (but by no means all) riders don't care for trail runners (or unleashed doggies).

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:50 AM, h_t_rex <h_t_rex@...> wrote:

Per GHORBA's Trail Steward Russell:
http://www.ghorba.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1341

Anyone interested in helping after work Oct 8-10th, please contact Russell. This will most likely also be the planned trail work for Saturday.

#2251

From: "Frank & Paige Krekeler" <fkrekeler@...>
Date: Thu Oct 9, 2008 12:59 am
Subject: RE: Trail Work Parties - Triangle Trail (aka Blair Witch)

fkrekeler

Of course you made me look. J

From: h_t_rex@yahoogroups.com [mailto:h_t_rex@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of HM Klaff
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 1:52 PM
To: h_t_rex@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [h_t_rex] Trail Work Parties - Triangle Trail (aka Blair Witch)

i've never checked the GHORBA forum out before. my, my . . . it appears that some (but by no means all) riders don't care for trail runners (or unleashed doggies).

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:50 AM, h_t_rex <h_t_rex@...> wrote:

Per GHORBA's Trail Steward Russell:
http://www.ghorba.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1341

Anyone interested in helping after work Oct 8-10th, please contact Russell. This will most likely also be the planned trail work for Saturday.

#2252

From: "Michelle" <mwolpert2002@...>
Date: Thu Oct 9, 2008 2:28 pm
Subject: Lynnor, good luck in KS...

mwolpert2002

...this weekend at Heartland...I'll be sending strong-leg vibes your
way.

Michelle

#2253

From: lynnor matheney <lillamb1997@...>
Date: Thu Oct 9, 2008 3:46 pm
Subject: Re: Lynnor, good luck in KS...

lillamb1997

Thanks Michelle!!! I'm going to need it!! When's Palo
Duro? Next weekend? I've heard so many great things
about that race, I hope to be there next year if it's
still being held.

Preparing for Heartland has been sort of like getting
ready for a hurricane except I won't be needing
propane..

Lynnor Matheney
The Woodlands

#2254

From: bob.i.botto@...
Date: Thu Oct 9, 2008 4:46 pm
Subject: Re: Lynnor, good luck in KS...

botto_robert

Good luck to you Lynnor!!!! You will really love this race. Weather should
be perfect. I know you will do well. Relax and enjoy the beautiful prarie.
I wish I was doing it with you.

Bob

Bob Botto
Analytical Services Laboratory
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Thanks Michelle!!! I'm going to need it!! When's Palo
Duro? Next weekend? I've heard so many great things
about that race, I hope to be there next year if it's
still being held.

Preparing for Heartland has been sort of like getting
ready for a hurricane except I won't be needing
propane..

Lynnor Matheney
The Woodlands

#2255

From: lynnor matheney <lillamb1997@...>
Date: Thu Oct 9, 2008 4:50 pm
Subject: Re: Lynnor, good luck in KS...

lillamb1997

I wish you were too, I'd be guaranteed to finish. I
was just looking at race reports and pictures. Did you
know there's a picture of you and Penny at a previous
Heartland race? You guys looked strong.

Lynnor

--- bob.i.botto@... wrote:

> Good luck to you Lynnor!!!! You will really love
> this race. Weather should
> be perfect. I know you will do well. Relax and enjoy
> the beautiful prarie.
> I wish I was doing it with you.
>
>

#2256

From: bob.i.botto@...
Date: Thu Oct 9, 2008 5:49 pm
Subject: Re: Lynnor, good luck in KS...

botto_robert

Penny and I had a good race that day. I remember really fast runs we did
down the hills. It was a beautiful day too. Well next year I'd like to go
up there again. I think you will like the quaint little town too. Only
about 90 people live there.

Bob

Bob Botto
Analytical Services Laboratory
Baytown Complex Laboratory Department
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I wish you were too, I'd be guaranteed to finish. I
was just looking at race reports and pictures. Did you
know there's a picture of you and Penny at a previous
Heartland race? You guys looked strong.

Lynnor

--- bob.i.botto@... wrote:

> Good luck to you Lynnor!!!! You will really love
> this race. Weather should
> be perfect. I know you will do well. Relax and enjoy
> the beautiful prarie.
> I wish I was doing it with you.
>
>

#2257

From: "Michelle" <mwolpert2002@...>
Date: Thu Oct 9, 2008 6:16 pm
Subject: Re: Lynnor, good luck in KS...

mwolpert2002

Yup, PD is 10/18...I'm looking forward to it. I've never been to
Amarillo, so that should be fun.

Don't forget to post your race report as soon as you are able.

M.

--- In h_t_rex@yahoogroups.com, lynnor matheney <lillamb1997@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Michelle!!! I'm going to need it!! When's Palo
> Duro? Next weekend? I've heard so many great things
> about that race, I hope to be there next year if it's
> still being held.
>
> Preparing for Heartland has been sort of like getting
> ready for a hurricane except I won't be needing
> propane..
>
> Lynnor Matheney
> The Woodlands
>

#2258

From: "Mariela" <mvbotella@...>
Date: Thu Oct 9, 2008 6:57 pm
Subject: Re: Lynnor, good luck in KS...

mariela_botella

Good Luck!!