The omission of Codex II is hardly a small one! From: gthomas@yahoogroups.com [mailto:gthomas@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Hubbard Sent: Thursday, May...
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Andrew Bernhard
abernhar
May 10, 2011 7:22 am
Hi all, I've been compiling a list of all the editions of the Coptic Gospel of Thomas that I know about, and something strange occurred to me: I don't know of...
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Judy Redman
judyr54
May 11, 2011 4:33 am
I have nothing to offer about texts, but this is a very interesting observation, Andrew. Judy -- Judy Redman PhD Candidate, School of Humanities University of...
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Rick Hubbard
rickhubbardus
May 11, 2011 8:50 pm
Hi Andrew- Koester's "Ancient Christian Gospels" (note 2, p 78) references an edition by Jacque-E. Menard "L'Evangile selon Thomas" published by Brill in 1975 ...
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Andrew Bernhard
abernhar
May 11, 2011 9:22 pm
Hi Rick- You got my hopes up there for a second . . . and in this digital age, a second means little more than that. Good books gives a preview of Menard's...
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Rick Hubbard
rickhubbardus
May 11, 2011 9:39 pm
Hi Andrew- Thanks for clearing it up about Menard. I guess it must have just a translation, huh? Kasser's numbering system is vastly different from the...
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abernhar
May 12, 2011 2:14 am
Oh, also, I wrote to Claremont to find out why they don't have Codex II up received the following response: "Thank you for using the Claremont Colleges Digital...
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Judy Redman
judyr54
May 12, 2011 10:49 am
I actually own a copy of Menard and it doesn't contain any version of the Coptic text - just a translation into French and a commentary. It's interesting in...
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Judy Redman
judyr54
May 12, 2011 11:09 am
[>] Andrew says I am curious about the different numbering systems. I'll try to look in Kasser when I get home tonight and see if any of the sources he...
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Andrew Bernhard
abernhar
May 13, 2011 7:30 am
Hi Judy, I suspect the collation referred to is the publication of the Facsimile edition of Codex II in 1974. As for Guillaumont, he has a prologue and 114...
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Mark Goodacre
marksgoodacre
May 19, 2011 3:59 pm
One of the most distinctive Matthean redactional phrases is "kingdom of heaven", 32 times in the Gospel, never in Mark, never in Luke or Acts, often found in...
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon_2000
May 19, 2011 9:07 pm
I think the Vox Iesu was malkutha d'alaha "Kingdom of God" which occurs 5 times in Matthew while Matthew prefers KOH, yet KOG occurs 15 times in Mark, 32 times...
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Mark Goodacre
marksgoodacre
May 20, 2011 12:46 am
... Thanks, Jack. The latter ref. should be Luke 7.28. I think it's really striking just how dominant the phrase is in Matthew given its absence elsewhere....
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon_2000
May 20, 2011 4:48 am
... From: Mark Goodacre Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 7:46 PM To: gthomas@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [GTh] "Kingdom of heaven" in Thomas ... Thanks, Jack....
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Mark Goodacre
marksgoodacre
May 20, 2011 7:36 pm
Thanks, Jack. Â I agree that "kingdom of heaven" is Matthean redaction. Â That rather focuses the question when it comes to its use in Thomas. On an Aramaic Q,...
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon_2000
May 20, 2011 11:09 pm
Could it have been that malkutha d'alaha and malkutha d'shemaya were used interchangeably in eschatological literature and exchange? Matthew 19:23 and 24 seem...
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smithandp
May 23, 2011 10:46 am
Hi Mark, I'd say that more hasn't been made of Thomas' use of "kingdom of Heaven" because Thomas 20 and 54 are in other ways closer to the Markan and Lukan...
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Mark Goodacre
marksgoodacre
May 24, 2011 12:52 am
Hi Andrew, Thanks for your helpful comments. I agree that Thom. 54 is a little closer to Luke in the main. I argued in Case Against Q that Thomas is...
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Stephen Carlson
scarlson_min...
May 24, 2011 1:11 am
... It's also not in Q. ;-) Stephen -- Stephen C. Carlson Graduate Program in Religion Duke University...
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Mark Goodacre
marksgoodacre
May 24, 2011 1:15 am
... How could I have forgotten that? :-) That's quite right, of course. It never appears in the Critical Text. Where it occurs in the double tradition, the...
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smithandp
May 24, 2011 9:56 am
Hi Mark, That's an excellent point about the Coptic priority fallacy. However the divergence between P.Oxy. 1 and Coptic Thomas 27 underlines that, whether...
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M.W. Grondin
mwgrondin
May 24, 2011 7:42 pm
Hi Mark, Andrew, et al: I've enjoyed reading this discussion. The only thing I would have to add is that to my mind the reference to Matthew in Th13 appears to...
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smithandp
May 24, 2011 8:23 pm
... No, it was the right reference, pointed out originally by Mark, but I glanced at Valantasis' translation which glosses it as "the <father's domain", and...
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Mark Goodacre
marksgoodacre
May 25, 2011 3:59 am
... Thanks, Andrew. On Logion 27, the choice we have is Kingdom vs. Kingdom of God, but I take the general point about being aware of issue of textual...
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Mark Goodacre
marksgoodacre
May 25, 2011 4:02 am
Thanks, Mike. Yes, Matthew's usage is always plural -- kingdom of the heavens. The fact that he does often have "God" in his gospel urges caution about the...
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M.W. Grondin
mwgrondin
May 25, 2011 4:31 am
... I see that Valantasis used the so-called "Scholar's Version", which of course was the creation of Meyer and Patterson within the Jesus Seminar. Valantasis ...
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sarban
andrewcriddle
May 25, 2011 7:32 pm
... From: M.W. Grondin To: gthomas@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [GTh] Re: "Kingdom of heaven" in Thomas Hi Mark, Andrew, et...
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Mike Grondin
mwgrondin
May 26, 2011 6:48 am
... Yes, I agree that this is an open question. In L30.1, the definite article isn't used, and for that and other reasons, I don't know what to make of it. On...
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steve
steveoxbrowsnr
May 26, 2011 4:39 pm
I had always interpreted this "extra" bit [in L100] over and above the other versions as a request for the reader's support in his opposition to the romans and...
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Mark Goodacre
marksgoodacre
May 31, 2011 8:25 pm
As some of you may know, I am currently working on a book on the relationship between the Gospel of Thomas and the Synoptics. It occurs to me that I am not...
