Thank you for your very kind and detailed response, Frank. I do appreciate the time, consideration and energy that went into it. I hope my post did not give...
Frank. My copy of my reply to you this morning arrived back here with all kinds of material that I wrote in it, missing. No idea why, and I can't seem to...
Ron McCann writes, "It's probably the Lawyer in me. I had to painfully learn to test and include in an evaluation all the evidence both pro and con, not just...
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Aug 1, 2007 8:16 pm
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I haven't been following this thread, but happened to read this post and couldn't resist a comment. Frank gives us Josephus and Paul as witnesses to the fact...
... Doesn't indicate that at all. Those who followed the "order" without believing in it were hypocrites in Paul's view, but the presumption is that those who...
Ron McCann writes, "I want to look at this more closely before I respond to it Frank, because I find this an interesting and quite novel ...
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Aug 2, 2007 7:14 pm
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Michael Grondin writes, "Doesn't indicate that at all. Those who followed the "order" without believing in it were hypocrites in Paul's view, but the...
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Aug 3, 2007 7:03 pm
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Hello Frank, I would like to respond to this if mike will allow me. The circumcision is of course James and the Jerusalem following. The fact that Paul refers...
... Well, a couple of translations I consulted seem to favor something along the lines of 'the circumcision faction/party/group' - i.e., a faction that...
Mike Grondin writes, "Well, a couple of translations I consulted seem to favor something along the lines of 'the circumcision faction/party/group' - i.e., a...
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Aug 4, 2007 4:42 pm
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Galations 2 has been cited in the discussion. 1.Doesn't it strike you as surreal that an uncircumcised guest of Christians in Jerusalem just might be expected...
Hello Frank, and all those involved in this thread. Interesting exchange. Frank, on the matter of you knocking down, the "evidence to the contrary"- that is,...
Logion 37 His disciples said, when will you be revealed to us and when shall we see you. "When you disrobe without being ashamed and and take up your garments...
Hello Dan, Everything posted earlier below has some connection to saying 37. However, what is posted below does not resolve everything in the saying. For...
... "And righteousness was apparently vigorously courted and pursued by many First Century Jews as it resulted in great respect and admiration. The word...
... I think you underestimate the fear and repugnance with which circumcision was viewed by Paul's constituency (the Gentiles). On the other hand, where's the...
Geoff, <<I seem recall that James was a vegetarian. If so, he would hardly be in favour of eating the meat of sacrificed animals, and thus hardly in favour of...
Ron McCann writes, "The word "RIGHTEOUS" meant "strict Torah-Observant". And in logion 12 in Thomas, James is referred to in proper translation, as "James...
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Aug 8, 2007 3:30 pm
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A note on Mike Grondin's remark on the acceptability of circumcision. There are some important questions of definition here. First, Rabbinic halachah makes...
Ruairidh Bóid asks, "What happened to the records kept by the personal disciples of Jesus, which would not have been in Greek?" In the first place, we don't...
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Aug 9, 2007 7:22 pm
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Frank wrote:- "Ron, The Thomas community did not observe the Law of Moses. So why would they have added a logion about going to James the Righteous/Just if...
Ron McCann writes, "In closing, Frank. Just one more point on the Jerusalem Council, the leadership of James and your suggestions that it was James sons of...
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Aug 9, 2007 8:47 pm
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Thanks, Frank. Clearly, I totally misunderstood you and the point you were making in your post, and further confused the references to James the son of...
My previous post was not entirely clear in its argument. What should have been said is that the false picture of a world inhabited by persons that had become...
... Respectfully There is no evidence that any Disciple (Or Apostle) ever wrote any of the present Gospels.( Or the accepted cannon) John-Mark-Mark (a...
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Aug 10, 2007 5:23 am
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This is a reply to both Ron McCann and John Moon to my two posts The objections are reasonable, but in part they are due to misunderstanding. Perhaps I was too...
For clarification. In the post below, by Dr. Boid, I believe most if not all of his references to "McCann" should probably be read "McCoy". Too many durned...
Sorry for the confusion of names. There were messages from Frank McCoy and Ron McCann next to each other, and I must have got them mixed up. Some notes for the...
Ruairidh Bóid writes, "As for the Epistle of James being in Greek, licet, but is McCann aware of the analogy of the later practice of simultaneous...
Frank McCoy
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Aug 11, 2007 2:10 pm
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Reply to Frank McCoy. You have shown up some loose connections in my general argument as far as it applies to the Epistle of James. I would like to postpone...