... coming from a ... Oh, I'm hardly an expert, Mike. My lifelong, geeky fascination with languages has led me to dabble in the study of a number of them, but...
Ron, Thanks for the link. Yes, that seems to answer my questions. So, it was NOT written from the perspective of Judas but describes the interdealings of Jesus...
... Yep. What particularly struck me was the similarity of the cosmogony of "Judas" to that of the Apocryphon of John. I hadn't expected that, and like you I...
Mike... ... cosmogony of "Judas" to that of the Apocryphon of John. I hadn't expected that, and like you I found it rather disappointing. Also, of course,...
Hello all. What's the Eusebian Paradigm? Dan ________________________________ From: gthomas@yahoogroups.com on behalf of pmcvflag Sent: Tue 4/11/2006 1:47 AM ...
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Hi Dan, Eusebius was the fourth century bishop whose decisive impact on the modern church is perhaps still not fully understood. Constantine used Eusebius as...
... Oh, it does have historical value. Its value lies in what it tells us indirectly about the relations between a certain group of Gnostics and the ...
Hi Mike, Thanks for the correction. I am assuming Marcion, a shipowner, got his exposure to Christian Gnosticism from Alexandria but that is conjecture on my...
Hey Mike ... tells us indirectly about the relations between a certain group of Gnostics and the establishment church. This group of Gnostics (perhaps the...
... I shouldn't have implied that this is its only value. It also tells us something about the development of Gnostic thought in different times and places. ...
... I am having second thoughts about being able to prove this. While it seems probable that Marcion was familiar with the Alexandrian Gnostics - both...
Hey Mike ... the text itself. Why did the authors choose Judas as their central character if they didn't identify with him in some way? Furthermore, you...
Karl, I'm going to concentrate here on the character Judas and the interpretation of the Judas text, and ignore our previous discussions of Acts and the ...
Mike <<Do you mean the same thing here as I've previously expressed - namely, that "Judas" was likely used as an insult against one's opponents? If so, the...
Hey Dave Just on my break at work and jumping in really quick since I knew I could quickly answer your one question... ... thought the physical testing puts...
PMCV, I'll have to look up the reference in Irenaeus to see how closely the work he calls the "Gospel of Judas" (if that is indeed how he refers to it) matches...
Hey Dave ... the work he calls the "Gospel of Judas" (if that is indeed how he refers to it) matches the Coptic one. I haven't seen any professional analysis...
Oops, I guess you were posting at the same time. Anyway, yes, that is exactly which section I meant. Obviously we can see that the "Cainites" (assuming they...
Hey Mike ... interpretation of the Judas text, and ignore our previous discussions of Acts and the general relations between Christian groups. If you feel,...
Belated thanks, Paul. Any thoughts from the list on Eusebius' story of the letters of Jesus and Abgar of Edessa? Thomas was supposedly commissioned by Jesus to...
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... From: "Scavone, Daniel C" <DCScavon@...> To: <gthomas@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 9:35 AM Subject: RE: [GTh] Gospel of Judas ... I...
... I don't dispute the fact that the correspondence was in existence at the time of Eusebius (mentioned his History of the Church c 325), but it was supposed...
... I think you're basically correct. Eusebius was fooled by a forgery here, as it is pretty clear that the letters could not have come from the time they...
... Far be it from me to disagree with someone who made his last mistake well before I was born <grin>, but... How, then, do you explain Jesus saying "for it...
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