Last night I did some research on a first century character by the name of Theudas. He was a teacher to Valentinus, and studied with Basilides, knew Peter,...
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sarban
andrewcriddle
Sep 23, 2004 4:30 pm
... From: "Tom Saunders" <tom@...> To: <gthomas@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 10:11 AM Subject: [GTh] Theudas ... Theudas....
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon_2000
Sep 23, 2004 6:27 pm
... From: "Tom Saunders" <tom@...> To: <gthomas@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 4:11 AM Subject: [GTh] Theudas ... Theudas....
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Tom Saunders
tom74730
Sep 24, 2004 3:08 am
Hi Mike, I hope the last post I submitted on Theudas separates Matthew back into the fold with the canonicals in regard to magic and demons. Although I was...
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Tom Saunders
tom74730
Sep 24, 2004 3:09 am
Hi Andrew, Hence Theudas(2) must be someone else than Theudas(1) who had been killed 40 years before. That does make sense. Ehrman's references threw me off,...
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Jack Kilmon
jkilmon_2000
Sep 24, 2004 3:58 am
... From: "Tom Saunders" <tom@...> To: <gthomas@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 10:54 PM Subject: [GTh] Theudas ... 40 years...
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Michael Grondin
mwgrondin
Sep 24, 2004 4:26 am
Tom, I appreciate your turnaround on GMatt. As to using extrinisic/intrinsic as a dividing line between gnosticism (small-g variety, which is what you're ...
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Tom Saunders
tom74730
Sep 24, 2004 5:59 pm
Hi Jack, I see what you mean, and wonder why the Gnostics like Valentinus made the claim to have been influenced by Theudas? And, if Ehrman messed up and...
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Tom Saunders
tom74730
Sep 29, 2004 12:22 pm
Hi Mike, Lately, it seems everything I look at gets a little mixed up. Sorry. Thank you for your help in getting the matter of how to look at spirit with...
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Michael Mozina
michael@...
Sep 29, 2004 12:23 pm
[To Tom and Mike] This has been an very interesting and extremely informative conversation from the outside looking in. I thank you both. I would also point...
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Jim Bauer
jbauer@...
Sep 29, 2004 9:56 pm
Mike, Could you please clarify for us exactly where you got your degree in quantum physics? I mean, it's been 30 years since I studied physics, but just ...
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Stephen
stephen_mirr...
Sep 29, 2004 10:02 pm
... this ... by ... is ... The idea of an inferior god arose from Jewish Gnostics interpreting the book of Genesis and probably took place hundreds of years...
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Ken Wright (Freeserve)
ken@...
Sep 30, 2004 2:18 am
Jim Energy is not matter! Don't be daft! E = MC2 does not in anyway suggest that energy is matter, but that matter potentially has energy. Technically,energy...
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Michael Grondin
mwgrondin
Sep 30, 2004 3:31 am
To the membership- As interesting as a discussion of modern physics might be, it's outside our scope, and has to be ended. We can perhaps avoid future tangents...
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BitsyCat1@...
bitsycat2
Sep 30, 2004 3:31 am
... John Asks Dt 6:4 Hear,O Israel:The Lord our God is one Lord. Isaiah45:22 46:9 I am God there is none else. Mathew 12:32 One...
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Michael Grondin
mwgrondin
Sep 30, 2004 5:34 am
Stephen, ... What on earth makes you think that Paul had such a belief? ... in ... the ... I think not. You're ignoring 4.3, which gives the moral of the story...
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Stephen
stephen_mirr...
Sep 30, 2004 6:02 pm
John, I certainly did not mean to imply that all or most Jews believed in an inferior God. Rather that a small Jewish Gnostic sect did make this conclusion...
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sarban
andrewcriddle
Sep 30, 2004 7:24 pm
... From: "Stephen" <stephen@...> To: <gthomas@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [GTh] A Diversion ... ...
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Tom Saunders
tom74730
Sep 30, 2004 7:31 pm
"None of this makes any sense unless the people who wrote and used Thomas believed, like Paul, that Yahweh was the inferior God." I too am puzzled about this...
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BitsyCat1@...
bitsycat2
Sep 30, 2004 8:53 pm
... John notes While in some sense Paul may be Gnostic. I dont think he saw Iesu Christe as a lesser God, or that there was even a lesser God. It appears in...
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fmmccoy
FMMCCOY@...
Oct 1, 2004 7:18 pm
INTRODUCTION There is a complex inter-relationship involving Thomas 45, Luke 6:43-46, Matthew 7:16-20, Matthew 12:33-35, and a possible Q passage (i.e., Mt ...
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Tom Saunders
tom74730
Oct 3, 2004 2:24 pm
The works of Paul in the Nag Hammadi Library have important parallels, and even some synoptics with the other works in the Nag Hammadi. These works are in...
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Tom Saunders
tom74730
Oct 4, 2004 2:07 am
Hi Johnmoon, "Only in that he {Paul} thought that Gnosis could be attained through Baptism into The Death and Resurrection of Jesus.( Gnosi in Baptismo), could...
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Michael Grondin
mwgrondin
Oct 4, 2004 2:14 am
... There are no works of Paul in the Nag Hammadi Library. Mike Grondin Mt. Clemens, MI...
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Michael Grondin
mwgrondin
Oct 4, 2004 2:40 am
... (c) Neither of the above. Mike Grondin Mt. Clemens, MI...
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sarban
andrewcriddle
Oct 4, 2004 2:25 pm
... From: "Michael Grondin" <mwgrondin@...> To: <gthomas@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 3:14 AM Subject: Re: [GTh] Parallels to Paul's...
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Michael Grondin
mwgrondin
Oct 4, 2004 4:22 pm
... Well, I knew that, of course. And at first I considered the possibility that the phrase "the works of Paul" was just another of Tom's god-awful ...
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BitsyCat1@...
bitsycat2
Oct 5, 2004 1:53 pm
... JOhn notes It is very, very difficult to show that even a Pauline original writing Is in Thomas, or visa versa. The number of steps in order to do such a...
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Tom Saunders
tom74730
Oct 5, 2004 6:25 pm
Hi Andrew, "There are certainly no genuine works of Paul in the Nag Hammadi library. However there are 2 works (falsely) attributed to Paul. The 'Prayer of...
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fmmccoy
FMMCCOY@...
Oct 7, 2004 6:42 pm
INTRODUCTION . Here is the ten line pattern to Matthew 9:37-10:16 Line 1 Matthew's version of a saying of Jesus in Thomas Line 2 Matthew's version of an...
