The following note was written by James Bean several years ago and has been resting in the archives (as all do) ever since. Recently, for perfectly...
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rickmsumner
Jun 10, 2003 2:07 pm
... wrote: Michael Grondin writes: <snip> ... remembering ... Why ... and the one ... tomb? ... alone ... Charlesworth wonders what, exactly, the beloved...
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sarban
andrewcriddle
Jun 10, 2003 11:16 pm
... From: "Tom Saunders" <tom@...> To: <gthomas@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:57 PM Subject: [GTh] I stilll don't understand ... ...
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Michael Grondin
mwgrondin
Jun 11, 2003 1:37 am
... As well he should, since in chapter 21, Simon Peter asks concerning the BD, "What about this *man*?" And Jesus responds, "If I want *him* to remain until I...
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swallison
Jun 11, 2003 2:08 am
... A couple of years ago I attempted to find the Diatessaron on the internet but I don't think what I found was really it. I would be interested in further...
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Wade and April
wadegreiner
Jun 11, 2003 3:10 am
... From: "Michael Grondin" ... original ... then ... would ... I wonder if folks are thinking a bit too hard about this. Maybe the author of John didn't...
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Michael Grondin
mwgrondin
Jun 11, 2003 5:24 am
Thanks for your note, Wade. Not being very well read in the literature, I hadn't run across the Lazarus possibility before, but I see now that it answers some...
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rickmsumner
Jun 11, 2003 5:41 am
... Rick replies: Perhaps Peter Kirby's site will be of some assistance to you: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/diatessaron.html Regards, Rick Sumner...
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David C. Hindley
dchindley
Jun 11, 2003 7:20 am
... but I don't think what I found was really it. I would be interested in further discussions of the Diatessaron.<< As far as I know, the only online version...
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sarban
andrewcriddle
Jun 11, 2003 7:13 pm
... From: "David C. Hindley" <dhindley@...> To: <gthomas@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 8:19 AM Subject: RE: [GTh] I stilll don't...
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pessy@...
pessoa22000
Jun 11, 2003 10:10 pm
... http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/diatessaron.html points to extant fragments and discussions. Klaus Schilling...
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Stephen
stephen_mirr...
Jun 11, 2003 10:10 pm
... [....] ... Which assumes that the son = Jesus, the owner = God. This is the meaning given to the saying in the canonical gospels. But there is nothing in...
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Stephen
stephen_mirr...
Jun 11, 2003 10:13 pm
... [...] ... Here is the story in the King James Version: -Then after that saith he to his disciples, Let us go into Judaea again. His disciples say unto him,...
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Michael Grondin
mwgrondin
Jun 12, 2003 12:57 pm
Several writers have referred to Peter Kirby's webpage http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/diatessaron.html . I've been trying to sort out the relationship...
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David C. Hindley
dchindley
Jun 12, 2003 6:29 pm
Peter says, ... Roberts-Donaldson* translation featured there and the J. Hamlyn Hill translation I have in my library under the title "The Earliest Life of...
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David C. Hindley
dchindley
Jun 12, 2003 6:32 pm
Oopsie! "From what I am gathering from Menzies' introduction" should have been "From what I am gathering from Hogg's introduction." Respectfully, Dave Hindley ...
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goranson@...
goranson11
Jun 12, 2003 7:16 pm
For a vast amount of information on these translations, see: Willian L. Petersen, Tatian's Diatessaron: its creation, dissemination, significance, and history...
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David C. Hindley
dchindley
Jun 12, 2003 9:06 pm
More oopsies! "This is not to be confused with the Latin harmony of the gospels that replaced ** Victor of Capua's *version* of the Vulgate, Codex Fuldensis...
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Tom Saunders
tom74730
Jun 13, 2003 12:40 am
Hi Andrew, I am not confusing Cathar for Gnostic. According to an outdated source I had the term Gnostic was a 12 th Century term of French origin. I am...
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sarban
andrewcriddle
Jun 13, 2003 1:02 am
... From: "Michael Grondin" <mwgrondin@...> To: <gthomas@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 1:17 PM Subject: [GTh] Translations of the...
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Michael Grondin
mwgrondin
Jun 13, 2003 3:27 am
... That's what I was afraid of. I think that when folks ask about a translation of the Diatessaron, they're interested in seeing something as close as ...
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Michael Grondin
mwgrondin
Jun 13, 2003 4:16 am
Tom- There seems to be some misunderstanding of the concept of catch-words in your latest note on this thread. Catch-words were not "now-coded" words, insofar...
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Michael Grondin
mwgrondin
Jun 13, 2003 4:21 am
... Here's another: It's not "Peter says", but "Mike says". I referred to Peter Kirby's webpage, but that don't make me him <g> Regards, Mike ("don39;t call me...
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David C. Hindley
dchindley
Jun 13, 2003 6:27 am
... Peter Kirby's webpage, but that don't make me him <g> << Details, details ... <g> Respectfully, Dave "Oopsie" Hindley Cleveland, Ohio, USA...
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Peter Kirby
kirbtron
Jun 13, 2003 2:22 pm
... I think so too. The problem is, I don't know of any critical edition of the original Diatassaron. Also, whatever else might be said about Yuri Kuchinsky...
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valdas_mackela
Jun 13, 2003 10:00 pm
Hello All, I suppose that someone of you know where to find on-line original coptic texts of Nag-Hammadi library. I need more accurate translation of the...
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pessy@...
pessoa22000
Jun 13, 2003 10:02 pm
... Note that Clemens Alexandrinus talked favourably about the Oratio, as it was also Clement's agenda to show the priority of the Thorah over Greek culture...
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pessy@...
pessoa22000
Jun 13, 2003 10:02 pm
... The Christian stuff could be added lately. Turner figured that the text is not monolithic, rather patched together from a collection of logia and a...
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Stephen C. Carlson
scarlson_min...
Jun 14, 2003 4:09 am
... Please don't take Yuri's arguments seriously. You have to check his references. For example, ... Contrary to Yuri's citation, Petersen (one of the...
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Michael Grondin
mwgrondin
Jun 14, 2003 4:30 am
... from ... Peter, I don't think we should get into this area, because it's really tangential, but I will direct your attention to some material linked to...